Laptop mining question

[Mrbates]

So first off I will say I know that laptops aren't the optimal mining rig, the purpose of it is solely that I'm allowed to bring it to work (free energy usage) and I'm also in need of a new laptop.

2 birds one stone sort of speak.

Anyways I was browsing around and trying to find the best laptop pricewise/ROI-Mining usage.

This is the best prebuilt one I've found currently that seems to have the best cpu/gpu for the price,

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N6KLBR1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490578741&sr=1-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Asus+ROG+Strix+GL702VS

Gtx 1060 and a intel i7700 for $1500 alternatively thinking it may be worth it to spend an extra 300 for the 1070 upgrade.

I was browsing a few other options on newegg and found a better version thats done by MSI however it seems to have alot of issues and going to ibuypower or customizing an alienware is a little to expensive.

(I mine cryptonote, so not expecting a full roi)

Mainly, does anyone know of a better mining laptop that is around the $1500 price range and has a warranty (going to abuse that every half year or so)


Thanks!

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You cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin with a PC by itself. The fastest PCs are 1000 times slower than the average modern ASIC and 500 times less efficient. So laptop or PC makes no difference, you cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin.

If you're talking about altcoin mining though, that's a different story.

[Mrbates]

You cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin with a PC by itself. The fastest PCs are 1000 times slower than the average modern ASIC and 500 times less efficient. So laptop or PC makes no difference, you cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin.

If you're talking about altcoin mining though, that's a different story.

I did say I mine cryptonote stuff :l

[Arcteryx]

You cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin with a PC by itself. The fastest PCs are 1000 times slower than the average modern ASIC and 500 times less efficient. So laptop or PC makes no difference, you cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin.

If you're talking about altcoin mining though, that's a different story.

I did say I mine cryptonote stuff :l

But you know that laptops head up very fast and having a fast gpu even heats up the entire laptop even faster.
So running it 24/7 which mining rigs are running to be able to do anything in their pool would potentially damage a laptop and lower it's life expentency.

[Mrbates]

You cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin with a PC by itself. The fastest PCs are 1000 times slower than the average modern ASIC and 500 times less efficient. So laptop or PC makes no difference, you cannot meaningfully mine bitcoin.

If you're talking about altcoin mining though, that's a different story.

I did say I mine cryptonote stuff :l

But you know that laptops head up very fast and having a fast gpu even heats up the entire laptop even faster.
So running it 24/7 which mining rigs are running to be able to do anything in their pool would potentially damage a laptop and lower it's life expentency.

True, which is why I'm aiming for one with a warranty so when it does eventually die I can just replace ~

[dwieyani]

all it makes no difference but laptop or PC Faster 100 times slower than the average modern and more efficient ASIC 50 times.

[Arcteryx]

all it makes no difference but laptop or PC Faster 100 times slower than the average modern and more efficient ASIC 50 times.

I don't he gets how mining works.
A laptop architecture is bottlenecked to what a mining rig with 5x more gpu power can do and an asic with 50x more processing power that ANY LAPTOP on the market or ever created will be able to do.
You will be mining in 1 day what something else can do in 5 minutes.
So you will be 35 by the time you you even get 1 btc mining with a laptop no matter how powerful,new or expensive it is.
So tell us, is that worth an explanation to you yet?
If not then think of it this way.
Workstation for 3d animation compared to Apple II doing Draw. There is no comparison there man!

[Mrbates]

all it makes no difference but laptop or PC Faster 100 times slower than the average modern and more efficient ASIC 50 times.

I don't he gets how mining works.
A laptop architecture is bottlenecked to what a mining rig with 5x more gpu power can do and an asic with 50x more processing power that ANY LAPTOP on the market or ever created will be able to do.
You will be mining in 1 day what something else can do in 5 minutes.
So you will be 35 by the time you you even get 1 btc mining with a laptop no matter how powerful,new or expensive it is.
So tell us, is that worth an explanation to you yet?
If not then think of it this way.
Workstation for 3d animation compared to Apple II doing Draw. There is no comparison there man!

I think you did not read the entire thread, I've said twice I'm not mining bitcoin.  I'm mining the cryptonotes; xmr, xdn, aeon etc.
It is asic resistant, it requires a cpu/gpu to mine so the power of those two items - which is why those two were specifically mentioned in the initial post - are the only items of concern for this mining.

[Mrbates]

all it makes no difference but laptop or PC Faster 100 times slower than the average modern and more efficient ASIC 50 times.

Cryptonotes are asic resistant, thank you for not reading the entire post.

[kisk]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

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[Mrbates]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

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If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

[PantminerS7]

You could get one of the external GPU mounts and run it like that. However, the inital cost of GPU+External will have you wait a while before you ROI

Edit: also, don't use minergate if you get 540h/s on a 1070...

[Ambros]

all it makes no difference but laptop or PC Faster 100 times slower than the average modern and more efficient ASIC 50 times.

I don't he gets how mining works.
A laptop architecture is bottlenecked to what a mining rig with 5x more gpu power can do and an asic with 50x more processing power that ANY LAPTOP on the market or ever created will be able to do.
You will be mining in 1 day what something else can do in 5 minutes.
So you will be 35 by the time you you even get 1 btc mining with a laptop no matter how powerful,new or expensive it is.
So tell us, is that worth an explanation to you yet?
If not then think of it this way.
Workstation for 3d animation compared to Apple II doing Draw. There is no comparison there man!

I think you did not read the entire thread, I've said twice I'm not mining bitcoin.  I'm mining the cryptonotes; xmr, xdn, aeon etc.
It is asic resistant, it requires a cpu/gpu to mine so the power of those two items - which is why those two were specifically mentioned in the initial post - are the only items of concern for this mining.

Are you sure that the 1060 in the laptop performs equals than the normal one? I've never tried.

That being said, go for the 1060, 300$ difference is way too much for the performance gain

[newmz]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

</thread>

If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

There is a recent version of CCMINER which will do 650-700h/s in cryptonight on a 1070.

But I thought you were referring to a laptop with a 1060 in it, not a 1070?

[Mrbates]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

</thread>

If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

There is a recent version of CCMINER which will do 650-700h/s in cryptonight on a 1070.

But I thought you were referring to a laptop with a 1060 in it, not a 1070?

Between the two choices - the $1500 version has a 1060 (est 250-350 hash) the 1800 has a 1070 (est 540-650 hash)
I waa thinking its ineffective paying 300 for that upgrade but ~ almost doubling the hashrate makes me indecisive.

[sezecastronomine]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

</thread>

If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

There is a recent version of CCMINER which will do 650-700h/s in cryptonight on a 1070.

But I thought you were referring to a laptop with a 1060 in it, not a 1070?

Between the two choices - the $1500 version has a 1060 (est 250-350 hash) the 1800 has a 1070 (est 540-650 hash)
I waa thinking its ineffective paying 300 for that upgrade but ~ almost doubling the hashrate makes me indecisive.

you'd be better off spending that 1.5k on 3-4 470s and settling with equihash for worthwhile returns instead of cryptonote - https://whattomine.com/coins/167-zcl-equihash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1080.0&p=600.0&fee=2.0&cost=0.2&hcost=1500&commit=Calculate, http://mycryptobuddy.com/MiningHardware

[arielbit]

he should time travel to year 2050, buy laptop. go back to year 2017..mine=profit!

[Mrbates]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

</thread>

If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

There is a recent version of CCMINER which will do 650-700h/s in cryptonight on a 1070.

But I thought you were referring to a laptop with a 1060 in it, not a 1070?

Between the two choices - the $1500 version has a 1060 (est 250-350 hash) the 1800 has a 1070 (est 540-650 hash)
I waa thinking its ineffective paying 300 for that upgrade but ~ almost doubling the hashrate makes me indecisive.

you'd be better off spending that 1.5k on 3-4 470s and settling with equihash for worthwhile returns instead of cryptonote - https://whattomine.com/coins/167-zcl-equihash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1080.0&p=600.0&fee=2.0&cost=0.2&hcost=1500&commit=Calculate, http://mycryptobuddy.com/MiningHardware

Can't take that to work with me though -> therefore the .20c electricity cost would kill me.

[sezecastronomine]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

</thread>

If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

There is a recent version of CCMINER which will do 650-700h/s in cryptonight on a 1070.

But I thought you were referring to a laptop with a 1060 in it, not a 1070?

Between the two choices - the $1500 version has a 1060 (est 250-350 hash) the 1800 has a 1070 (est 540-650 hash)
I waa thinking its ineffective paying 300 for that upgrade but ~ almost doubling the hashrate makes me indecisive.

you'd be better off spending that 1.5k on 3-4 470s and settling with equihash for worthwhile returns instead of cryptonote - https://whattomine.com/coins/167-zcl-equihash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1080.0&p=600.0&fee=2.0&cost=0.2&hcost=1500&commit=Calculate, http://mycryptobuddy.com/MiningHardware

Can't take that to work with me though -> therefore the .20c electricity cost would kill me.

you could kit out a portable case and setup where ever your laptop was going to be if you're just buying a few?
if its out in the open, with others trying to work i get why it wouldn't be suitable, but if its a matter of there's a spare room and you can place it there, i don't see why it'd be an issue.
plus $7 daily returns for a coffee/monero or two, that is after withdrawal and tx fees.

as for home use, yes, you'll end up in the negative forking out electricity expenses :/
only other thought is to save up for a larger rig and find a decent colo provider in a state where kWh are below 10 cents

[Mrbates]

I'm estimating with that laptop you'll probably get MAX 200 h/s mining XMR... at today's price that's about $0.39/day, and only if you're mining the full 24 hours. If you speed 8hrs at work that's $0.13 per day.

ROI would be: 15358.69 days, which is 42.07860274 years. This is assuming you go to work 365 days a year. LOL

Better solution: Buy a cheap laptop and build and ACTUAL RIG!!

With today's prices, RIO is only 4-6 months.

</thread>

If i do an actual rig though I get stuck paying electricity d: .20 per kw was mainly the reason I was looking to multi task it in this fashion.

Also should be able to swing a 540 hashrate with the 1070 just using minergate ~

There is a recent version of CCMINER which will do 650-700h/s in cryptonight on a 1070.

But I thought you were referring to a laptop with a 1060 in it, not a 1070?

Between the two choices - the $1500 version has a 1060 (est 250-350 hash) the 1800 has a 1070 (est 540-650 hash)
I waa thinking its ineffective paying 300 for that upgrade but ~ almost doubling the hashrate makes me indecisive.

you'd be better off spending that 1.5k on 3-4 470s and settling with equihash for worthwhile returns instead of cryptonote - https://whattomine.com/coins/167-zcl-equihash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1080.0&p=600.0&fee=2.0&cost=0.2&hcost=1500&commit=Calculate, http://mycryptobuddy.com/MiningHardware

Can't take that to work with me though -> therefore the .20c electricity cost would kill me.

you could kit out a portable case and setup where ever your laptop was going to be if you're just buying a few?
if its out in the open, with others trying to work i get why it wouldn't be suitable, but if its a matter of there's a spare room and you can place it there, i don't see why it'd be an issue.
plus $7 daily returns for a coffee/monero or two, that is after withdrawal and tx fees.

as for home use, yes, you'll end up in the negative forking out electricity expenses :/
only other thought is to save up for a larger rig and find a decent colo provider in a state where kWh are below 10 cents

Yeah itd be out in the open, also I wouldn't trust leaving it out of sight with my coworkers.  Its becoming a tricky thing given the circumstances lol

[sezecastronomine]

Yeah itd be out in the open, also I wouldn't trust leaving it out of sight with my coworkers.  Its becoming a tricky thing given the circumstances lol

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id say just screen lock and enable a loud tone to emit on first failed login, then again, this could also work the other way and get you fired if you work with trolls?

[Arcteryx]

Yeah itd be out in the open, also I wouldn't trust leaving it out of sight with my coworkers.  Its becoming a tricky thing given the circumstances lol

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id say just screen lock and enable a loud tone to emit on first failed login, then again, this could also work the other way and get you fired if you work with trolls?

But you don't think they will notice a heavy load on their network coming from you mining?
They will track it down to your laptop and then you will get fired.
Haven't you heard of that FBI agent who got caught using the federal bureau of investigation's network and servers for mining a little while ago? He was doing it for years but now they know what bitcoin is all about and everyone and anyone are enough to go to great lengths they are willing to sacrifice their own careers over.
The ones who monitor your network will know what it is now, not like in 2013 when it was just seen as regular "network traffic" and just swiped it off as Nancy just online shopping on multiple sites again.
You will get caught. There is no doubt about it.
That is unless you work in the I.T department and are the sole one to watch the network traffic and looking for high levels. Cause your co workers will report you to get your position that is if you higher then he is or a friend of theirs on the I.T crew just for your troubles.
Unless you can give them all a cut of that mined coin. Such as hush money for you to keep your job and not reporting your actions to the networking department's director. Cause then it will be his head on the chopping block.

[sezecastronomine]

Yeah itd be out in the open, also I wouldn't trust leaving it out of sight with my coworkers.  Its becoming a tricky thing given the circumstances lol

﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿
id say just screen lock and enable a loud tone to emit on first failed login, then again, this could also work the other way and get you fired if you work with trolls?

But you don't think they will notice a heavy load on their network coming from you mining?
They will track it down to your laptop and then you will get fired.
Haven't you heard of that FBI agent who got caught using the federal bureau of investigation's network and servers for mining a little while ago? He was doing it for years but now they know what bitcoin is all about and everyone and anyone are enough to go to great lengths they are willing to sacrifice their own careers over.
The ones who monitor your network will know what it is now, not like in 2013 when it was just seen as regular "network traffic" and just swiped it off as Nancy just online shopping on multiple sites again.
You will get caught. There is no doubt about it.
That is unless you work in the I.T department and are the sole one to watch the network traffic and looking for high levels. Cause your co workers will report you to get your position that is if you higher then he is or a friend of theirs on the I.T crew just for your troubles.
Unless you can give them all a cut of that mined coin. Such as hush money for you to keep your job and not reporting your actions to the networking department's director. Cause then it will be his head on the chopping block.

well yeah, if admins are doing their job, i can't imagine they'd just sit back and keep quiet, unless as you said, their coworker shared the rewards.

can't recall that case.
after the bridges and force ordeal, nothing surprises me anymore

[Maxumark]

a few points:
1. Mining uses very little network bandwidth. It would be the destination and duration of the connection that would get noticed.
2. Usually its it the large power consumption that gets noticed. But a single laptops power consumption even on 24/7 would not be noticed.
3. If you are trying to accumulate coin it may be much easier just to buy  $5 or $10 Per week.
4. Buy a couple of used multi CPU servers and have them hosted at a DC. You could probably buy 3 or 4 for the cost of that Laptop.
    ColoHub, where I am at, offers hosting for about .08 if you prepay 6 months. 
 
Good Luck!

[Ambros]

You can mine from your work without anyone noticing....
If you are scared about it just tunnel the mining traffic through your place at home and tell them that's a synch of a NAS or something, since you use a secure connection that have to believe on your word. If they complain just stop doing it.

[Mrbates]

Yeah itd be out in the open, also I wouldn't trust leaving it out of sight with my coworkers.  Its becoming a tricky thing given the circumstances lol

﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿
id say just screen lock and enable a loud tone to emit on first failed login, then again, this could also work the other way and get you fired if you work with trolls?

But you don't think they will notice a heavy load on their network coming from you mining?
They will track it down to your laptop and then you will get fired.
Haven't you heard of that FBI agent who got caught using the federal bureau of investigation's network and servers for mining a little while ago? He was doing it for years but now they know what bitcoin is all about and everyone and anyone are enough to go to great lengths they are willing to sacrifice their own careers over.
The ones who monitor your network will know what it is now, not like in 2013 when it was just seen as regular "network traffic" and just swiped it off as Nancy just online shopping on multiple sites again.
You will get caught. There is no doubt about it.
That is unless you work in the I.T department and are the sole one to watch the network traffic and looking for high levels. Cause your co workers will report you to get your position that is if you higher then he is or a friend of theirs on the I.T crew just for your troubles.
Unless you can give them all a cut of that mined coin. Such as hush money for you to keep your job and not reporting your actions to the networking department's director. Cause then it will be his head on the chopping block.

Oh the wifi is for the employees, and we got told we can bring a laptop to work because there is alot of downtime.

So there won't be any issues like that, and either way I still need a laptop just looking to make it multi task.