Who likes pod miners?

[philipma1957]

Why would you need a barrel adapter? The fact it's got a 6-pin PCIe on it was the subject of discussion about four posts ago. That's been a standard feature - by request - since the first version.

My wife's cousin is sick with emergency heart issues. We were going to party with him on  this Sunday

I got the phone call as I was about to answer the  guys question and frankly  I fucked up.


What power will these draw sidehack?

30-50 watts a pod?


I ask because  if they draw 30-35   I can use a quality 2 plug cable  with a quality splitter.  brings me to   120 -140 watts a cable.

if they use  50 watts I would just do a 2 plug cable  and pull 100 for the cable

[sidehack]

As with any miner I've ever built or ever will build, the power draw is adjustable. Top clock will be around 60W, more if you've got a Pi plugged into it. I've bought a better bench supply to test with that'll give me good power readings, so I'll set it up next time I get time - maybe Monday if my 2Pac PCB batch delivery is delayed. I can put up a chart of expected power draws at a variety of frequencies.

Should be able to get around 88GH at 35 watts.

[philipma1957]

As with any miner I've ever built or ever will build, the power draw is adjustable. Top clock will be around 60W, more if you've got a Pi plugged into it. I've bought a better bench supply to test with that'll give me good power readings, so I'll set it up next time I get time - maybe Monday if my 2Pac PCB batch delivery is delayed. I can put up a chart of expected power draws at a variety of frequencies.

Should be able to get around 88GH at 35 watts.

sounds good to me.  thanks for info.

[goose1072]

As with any miner I've ever built or ever will build, the power draw is adjustable. Top clock will be around 60W, more if you've got a Pi plugged into it. I've bought a better bench supply to test with that'll give me good power readings, so I'll set it up next time I get time - maybe Monday if my 2Pac PCB batch delivery is delayed. I can put up a chart of expected power draws at a variety of frequencies.

Should be able to get around 88GH at 35 watts.

These are going to be great!
Thanks for the info as well.

[sidehack]

So, a few things about the pod.

Looks like it'll have trouble starting up at extreme low voltage, which isn't unexpected because node voltage balance is pretty critical when it's operating near bottom threshold. Balance also comes into play for stable operation. I looked at Bitmain's BM1384 spec and added 10% to the given stable voltage level for any particular frequency for the test which produced the following results:

100MHz (44GH) 660mV/node 2.64V total; 12V 1.4A for 16.8W/0.38J/GH
125MHz (55GH) 660mV/node 2.64V total; 12V 1.7A for 20.4W/0.37J/GH
150MHz (66GH) 660mV/node 2.64V total; 12V 2.0A for 24.0W/0.36J/GH
175MHz (77GH) 693mV/node 2.77V total; 12V 2.5A for 30.0W/0.39J/GH
200MHz (88GH) 715mV/node 2.86V total; 12V 3.1A for 37.2W/0.42J/GH
225MHz (99GH) 755mV/node 3.02V total; 12V 3.8A for 45.6W/0.46J/GH
250MHz (110GH) 770mV/node 3.08V total; 12V 4.4A for 52.8W/0.48J/GH

Might be able to get more than 250MHz out of it if you ask it nicely.

[rockmoney]

Your stocking would need to be a bit big. The thing's a rectangle 10x10cm and about 6cm high.

Jeez. I should really figure out how I'm gonna package these things, huh? Maybe stock up on some power bricks and USB cables and stuff.

Among others, consider these (at $0.5 a pop=$25 for 50 boxes):
https://www.amazon.com/Aviditi-Corrugated-Mailer-Length-Height/dp/B00BT59D0I/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1507919791&sr=8-4&keywords=shipping%2Bboxes&th=1

I think that 5X5X3in in should be fine as 10x10X6 cm is approx 3.94X3.94X2.35 in inches.
Or bigger (6X6X3?, but for 66c a pop) if you would want to include power bricks and USB.

I was thinking of packing one with a brick and USB cable in a USPS Regional A box, which I can get for free and allows decent room for padding without getting crazy.

Smaller might be nice for folks who don't want a brick. Should make that an option.

To help keep costs down, free is always the best option for simple things like boxes to ship the pods, and the USPS does have a nice array of different size boxes! They will also send you thousands of them via their online order form HERE, or you can pick some up from your local Post Office. The only downside is that you must use Priority Mail when using USPS supplied boxes, but sidehack usually ships Priority Mail anyway.

After looking at the boxes from the link Biodom posted, they reminded me of boxes I used to keep sports cards in as a child. Don't know if you have any local sports card stores in your area, but they will likely have many different size cardboard boxes for dirt cheap. You can also find them online HERE, and probably for even cheaper. If you would like me to look into finding a similar product for the lowest price, I will be more than happy to do some "shopping around" and send you a link after.

Lastly, not sure if you are allowing any type of pre-ordering, but please pencil me in for at least one unit! I can/will pay in advance as well if that helps. Thanks again for yet another GREAT product from sidehack/GekkoScience! Can NOT wait..

[sidehack]

I may open up orders in a couple weeks, when I'm closer to manufacture (or have already started). I'd like to be a little farther along than I am right now. I currently have exactly two complete prototypes, the firmware is still a work in progress and I don't even have a final BOM laid out yet to get cost estimates.

[goose1072]

Wow, thanks for the update.
It's going to be a good winter 😁

[DonBit]

I may open up orders in a couple weeks, when I'm closer to manufacture (or have already started). I'd like to be a little farther along than I am right now. I currently have exactly two complete prototypes, the firmware is still a work in progress and I don't even have a final BOM laid out yet to get cost estimates.

Great news sidehack!
 Curious to see pictures of the prototypes to check how it looks.

[philipma1957]

I may open up orders in a couple weeks, when I'm closer to manufacture (or have already started). I'd like to be a little farther along than I am right now. I currently have exactly two complete prototypes, the firmware is still a work in progress and I don't even have a final BOM laid out yet to get cost estimates.

very nice  I want a few of these.

will point them at mmpool.org

[wavelengthsf]

I may open up orders in a couple weeks, when I'm closer to manufacture (or have already started). I'd like to be a little farther along than I am right now. I currently have exactly two complete prototypes, the firmware is still a work in progress and I don't even have a final BOM laid out yet to get cost estimates.

very nice  I want a few of these.

will point them at mmpool.org

Same here - except i'll point them to ck's solo pool and hope the nonces are in my favor.

[philipma1957]

I may open up orders in a couple weeks, when I'm closer to manufacture (or have already started). I'd like to be a little farther along than I am right now. I currently have exactly two complete prototypes, the firmware is still a work in progress and I don't even have a final BOM laid out yet to get cost estimates.

very nice  I want a few of these.

will point them at mmpool.org

Same here - except i'll point them to ck's solo pool and hope the nonces are in my favor.

ck is also a choice along with viabtc.com solo bcc mining.

[sidehack]

BCC, or Bitmain's Cash?

[philipma1957]

BCC, or Bitmain's Cash?

BCH  ie bitmain's cash.

I have drawn the conclusion they are bigger then the 800 pound Gorilla in the room.

So I point 18th  at them
I point       25th  at btc
I have      10000 sols at zec
I have a tiny machine at skein.
I have some cpus at xmr


I auto convert xmr, zec and skein to btc via nicehash.

Your gear will lotto with:

  mmpool
  ck pool
  viabtc.com solo bcc


I have your sticks pointed at mmpool.org

Estimated Payout

Rank   Id   DGM Estimate   PPS   Shares   Rate (MHash/s)
1   a5d78fff   10.33389840   0.00000000   127,725,057,386   0
2   2d0ba29d   0.11360041   0.00000000   4,507,631,204   5,721,813
3   433aa491   0.06278210   0.00000000   2,139,515,650   0
4   71602a00   0.20186633   0.00000000   1,045,354,601   37,389  these are your sticks

[sidehack]

Okay, cool. I mine BTC and don't support anything else, which includes not supporting the conversion of anything else into BTC because I consider that unfair to whoever's holding the bag when whatever crap I mined and turned into a viable currency dissolves into vapor. But my moral compass is a lot stronger than my desire to profit, which puts me very much in the minority, especially in the crypto world. If BitCH or something else ever overtakes Bitcoin proper (based on utility as a means of exchange for goods and services) I'll have egg on my face but that's fine. In the meantime I'm gonna keep chuckling at Bitmain's overt greed and various supporting shenanigans.

In short - BCH can lick a nutsack.

Additionally, hopefully soon I have the time (and parts, and functional firmware) to get some prototypes in the hands of resellers for testing and approval. Looking forward to that. And if I can ever find the battery charger for my camera I'll put up pictures of the thing in operation.

[philipma1957]

Okay, cool. I mine BTC and don't support anything else, which includes not supporting the conversion of anything else into BTC because I consider that unfair to whoever's holding the bag when whatever crap I mined and turned into a viable currency dissolves into vapor. But my moral compass is a lot stronger than my desire to profit, which puts me very much in the minority, especially in the crypto world. If BitCH or something else ever overtakes Bitcoin proper (based on utility as a means of exchange for goods and services) I'll have egg on my face but that's fine. In the meantime I'm gonna keep chuckling at Bitmain's overt greed and various supporting shenanigans.

In short - BCH can lick a nutsack.

Additionally, hopefully soon I have the time (and parts, and functional firmware) to get some prototypes in the hands of resellers for testing and approval. Looking forward to that. And if I can ever find the battery charger for my camera I'll put up pictures of the thing in operation.

I used to think  BTC  + LTC   and screw all other coins

but with  https://coinmarketcap.com/  having more then 1000 coins .  With more then the top 100 listed below trading freely on different exchanges what is one to do?

Code:

1	Bitcoin.........$101,223,382,051..........$6084.37...........$2,639,640,000.............16,636,625 BTC	
2	Ethereum......$28,567,464,987...........$299.99............$439159000...................95,227,423 ETH
3	Ripple............$7,959,113,211...........$0.206561..........$146102000.................38,531,538,922 XRP

 
4	Bitcoin Cash....$5,456,324,238...........$326.58.............$160996000.................16,707,313 BCH


	
5	Litecoin	$3139370808	$58.71	$174439000	53,469,682 LTC	-0.78%	sparkline
6	Dash	$2206188197	$288.99	$44261500	7,634,054 DASH	-2.03%	sparkline
7	NEM	$1859823000	$0.206647	$4951850	8,999,999,999 XEM *	-6.51%	sparkline
8	BitConnect	$1560948059	$216.00	$14246000	7,226,745 BCC	8.21%	sparkline
9	NEO	$1385135000	$27.70	$35521000	50,000,000 NEO *	-2.57%	sparkline
10	Monero	$1344272353	$88.18	$37700200	15,245,453 XMR	-1.21%	sparkline
11	Ethereum Classic	$1065869698	$11.03	$29078700	96,664,372 ETC	-2.84%	sparkline
12	IOTA	$1047404837	$0.376828	$16637100	2,779,530,283 MIOTA *	-8.83%	sparkline
13	Qtum	$819241100	$11.13	$199600000	73,602,600 QTUM *	-19.20%	sparkline
14	Cardano	$764597088	$0.029490	$8926750	25,927,070,538 ADA *	8.87%	sparkline
15	OmiseGO	$716135260	$7.28	$21894000	98,312,024 OMG *	-5.63%	sparkline
16	Lisk	$548502136	$4.82	$13287100	113,814,125 LSK *	-2.39%	sparkline
17	Zcash	$540578432	$221.14	$30684000	2,444,519 ZEC	-3.27%	sparkline
18	Tether	$437245138	$1.00	$203301000	437,061,572 USDT *	0.07%	sparkline
19	Stellar Lumens	$407089845	$0.024542	$37153700	16,587,814,333 XLM *	-20.41%	sparkline
20	Waves	$362293000	$3.62	$11667900	100,000,000 WAVES *	-6.30%	sparkline
21	Hshare	$361708792	$10.72	$9038150	33,750,307 HSR	2.73%	sparkline
22	Stratis	$290705139	$2.95	$7666650	98,590,235 STRAT *	-3.78%	sparkline
23	Bytecoin	$275890029	$0.001506	$1461870	183,253,534,612 BCN	4.46%	sparkline
24	Ark	$268043479	$2.74	$2410760	97,981,284 ARK *	-2.37%	sparkline
25	Steem	$241288262	$0.987808	$1000270	244,266,357 STEEM	-4.08%	sparkline
26	EOS	$222584987	$0.531584	$6292970	418,720,253 EOS *	-7.19%	sparkline
27	Ardor	$211748932	$0.211961	$1409430	998,999,495 ARDR *	-1.78%	sparkline
28	Augur	$186821800	$16.98	$858502	11,000,000 REP *	-5.58%	sparkline
29	FirstCoin	$183781305	$14.82	$1494610	12,400,981 FRST	7.50%	sparkline
30	TenX	$179002238	$1.71	$2324560	104,661,310 PAY *	-10.08%	sparkline
31	Komodo	$175387776	$1.74	$1533790	100,945,510 KMD	-5.90%	sparkline
32	Golem	$171902817	$0.206358	$10675700	833,032,000 GNT *	-19.35%	sparkline
33	Gas	$171392217	$19.94	$608413	8,597,035 GAS *	-2.67%	sparkline
34	PIVX	$168995817	$3.09	$708543	54,677,755 PIVX *	-10.35%	sparkline
35	Walton	$163168218	$6.55	$11437800	24,898,178 WTC *	-10.38%	sparkline
36	MaidSafeCoin	$155506060	$0.343620	$1986560	452,552,412 MAID *	-9.18%	sparkline
37	MonaCoin	$152469921	$2.78	$2500700	54,767,675 MONA	-6.26%	sparkline
38	Decred	$140688663	$23.45	$837866	5,998,826 DCR	-11.94%	sparkline
39	Kyber Network	$138730766	$1.03	$1576220	134,132,697 KNC *	-2.82%	sparkline
40	SALT	$137285098	$2.51	$4368220	54,675,000 SALT *	-14.23%	sparkline
41	Basic Attenti...	$134518000	$0.134518	$2242370	1,000,000,000 BAT *	-13.55%	sparkline
42	BitShares	$129796544	$0.049906	$3934170	2,600,810,000 BTS *	-3.67%	sparkline
43	TRON	$129789999	$0.001984	$180550	65,425,271,465 TRX *	0.46%	sparkline
44	Metal	$129762899	$6.72	$2366580	19,300,994 MTL *	-8.71%	sparkline
45	DigixDAO	$128672800	$64.34	$142916	2,000,000 DGD *	1.47%	sparkline
46	Factom	$128002058	$14.64	$2517210	8,745,102 FCT *	-5.47%	sparkline
47	GameCredits	$125022499	$1.94	$2865790	64,355,352 GAME	7.18%	sparkline
48	Veritaseum	$124878147	$61.64	$334197	2,026,045 VERI *	-0.08%	sparkline
49	Binance Coin	$123602147	$1.25	$1735500	99,014,000 BNB *	-6.87%	sparkline
50	Populous	$120947460	$2.93	$349919	41,252,246 PPT *	-8.78%	sparkline
51	Iconomi	$120557744	$1.21	$569160	99,900,350 ICN *	-8.40%	sparkline
52	Regalcoin	$117863764	$41.94	$5856510	2,810,000 REC	14.30%	sparkline
53	Dogecoin	$113608915	$0.001018	$3501670	111,588,054,993 DOGE	-4.39%	sparkline
54	Byteball Bytes	$112731728	$193.07	$385576	583,896 GBYTE *	-1.82%	sparkline
55	Siacoin	$108570990	$0.003587	$1773490	30,265,799,720 SC	-10.91%	sparkline
56	Blocknet	$108325002	$22.33	$130570	4,850,207 BLOCK *	8.52%	sparkline
57	Metaverse ETP	$107499838	$4.76	$22872900	22,600,000 ETP	-19.13%	sparkline
58	Vertcoin	$105214289	$2.60	$9410010	40,506,450 VTC	30.04%	sparkline
59	BitcoinDark	$103986174	$80.68	$141011	1,288,862 BTCD	-6.43%	sparkline
60	Civic	$103609951	$0.304556	$4652570	340,200,000 CVC *	-7.72%	sparkline
61	0x	$101912500	$0.203825	$2137490	500,000,000 ZRX *	-6.11%	sparkline
62	Lykke	$101789270	$0.378330	$137338	269,048,898 LKK *	2.75%	sparkline
63	Status	$89477748	$0.025782	$1430520	3,470,483,788 SNT *	-3.14%	sparkline
64	ATMChain	$88291456	$0.030304	$4158440	2,913,534,434 ATM *	-3.41%	sparkline
65	Syscoin	$87974061	$0.166518	$1631240	528,315,626 SYS	-3.19%	sparkline
66	SingularDTV	$85005600	$0.141676	$1089900	600,000,000 SNGLS *	-2.38%	sparkline
67	ChainLink	$84695100	$0.241986	$9730150	350,000,000 LINK *	-20.47%	sparkline
68	Bancor	$83525264	$2.05	$966494	40,772,871 BNT *	-0.85%	sparkline
69	Bytom	$80917912	$0.081984	$92162	987,000,000 BTM *	-6.58%	sparkline
70	MCAP	$80305193	$2.10	$902576	38,295,641 MCAP *	-2.81%	sparkline
71	FunFair	$78442000	$0.019610	$1749300	4,000,000,000 FUN *	-7.18%	sparkline
72	Gnosis	$78333988	$70.92	$569505	1,104,590 GNO *	-2.62%	sparkline
73	DigiByte	$77347002	$0.008847	$3300260	8,742,253,657 DGB	-6.71%	sparkline
74	Monaco	$72255148	$7.36	$3476430	9,814,875 MCO *	-1.36%	sparkline
75	Pura	$71433920	$0.416405	$146241	171,549,141 PURA	4.97%	sparkline
76	Aeternity	$70543220	$0.302734	$503764	233,020,472 AE *	-9.52%	sparkline
77	GXShares	$69500171	$1.72	$2988470	40,510,000 GXS *	0.80%	sparkline
78	VeChain	$67075852	$0.242009	$708028	277,162,633 VEN *	-12.86%	sparkline
79	Nexus	$66826439	$1.26	$227121	53,228,224 NXS	-3.78%	sparkline
80	Bitdeal	$65429417	$0.418856	$458895	156,209,812 BDL	0.53%	sparkline
81	Nxt	$61400035	$0.061462	$2790660	998,999,942 NXT *	-2.97%	sparkline
82	Verge	$60263385	$0.004263	$2036120	14,136,909,808 XVG	-12.23%	sparkline
83	Aragon	$52886316	$1.62	$592325	32,732,352 ANT *	-7.55%	sparkline
84	ZenCash	$52460628	$22.67	$11927900	2,313,783 ZEN	11.17%	sparkline
85	Neblio	$51618633	$4.14	$486152	12,479,090 NEBL *	2.15%	sparkline
86	TaaS	$49204289	$6.04	$340915	8,146,001 TAAS *	3.38%	sparkline
87	Particl	$48359322	$6.24	$104757	7,744,307 PART *	-4.50%	sparkline
88	ATBCoin	$48204154	$1.25	$1035690	38,439,701 ATB	-3.83%	sparkline
89	NAV Coin	$48181342	$0.778066	$2326750	61,924,493 NAV *	-1.20%	sparkline
90	Kin	$48162885	$0.000064	$75372	756,097,560,976 KIN *	-2.07%	sparkline
91	Bitquence	$46657445	$0.651295	$1165250	71,637,960 BQX *	-14.10%	sparkline
92	Loopring	$46382556	$0.162080	$344762	286,170,756 LRC *	-9.08%	sparkline
93	NoLimitCoin	$46205479	$0.226487	$195848	204,009,407 NLC2 *	-22.17%	sparkline
94	Ubiq	$46018603	$1.20	$1159500	38,451,373 UBQ	-11.70%	sparkline
95	SmartCash	$44564453	$0.061794	$61044	721,178,835 SMART *	-26.64%	sparkline
96	Centra	$43498376	$0.639682	$1348180	68,000,000 CTR *	11.54%	sparkline
97	AdEx	$42958699	$0.762683	$2432270	56,325,759 ADX *	-7.93%	sparkline
98	district0x	$42703320	$0.071172	$13335100	600,000,000 DNT *	41.12%	sparkline
99	Dentacoin	$42012336	$0.000139	$14849	303,095,254,787 DCN *	8.81%	sparkline
100	I/O Coin	$40759960	$2.49	$190067	16,374,262 IOC *	-11.09%	sparkline
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[sidehack]

275MHz/121GH, 12V 4.9A from top core voltage. Let's see how long it runs stable. That looks to be top speed off a 60W brick, unless it'll run stable at 300MHz at a bit lower voltage. Which should be doable, but it'd help to have the auto-reset firmware on there. Which my firmware guy says will be ready in a couple days.

That's good, because PCBs are already on order.

[philipma1957]

275MHz/121GH, 12V 4.9A from top core voltage. Let's see how long it runs stable. That looks to be top speed off a 60W brick, unless it'll run stable at 300MHz at a bit lower voltage. Which should be doable, but it'd help to have the auto-reset firmware on there. Which my firmware guy says will be ready in a couple days.

That's good, because PCBs are already on order.

Nice I have lots of psu's for these.  Can not wait to fire a few up.

[goose1072]

Great news!

Thanks for the update sidehack.
Can't wait as well to play with some of these.
 

[ZedZedNova]

275MHz/121GH, 12V 4.9A from top core voltage. Let's see how long it runs stable. That looks to be top speed off a 60W brick, unless it'll run stable at 300MHz at a bit lower voltage. Which should be doable, but it'd help to have the auto-reset firmware on there. Which my firmware guy says will be ready in a couple days.

That's good, because PCBs are already on order.

That's great news sidehack! I'm looking forward to these miners. Now to make sure I have enough power bricks, either that or make a distribution pigtail that takes power from a 400W (all 12 VDC) PSU from a network switch that I have.