Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion [Odds updated!]

[joebrook]

I am a staunch supporter of the Starks, They are the most noble house in the entire realm and i hope they attain independence, they certainly dont care about the Iron Throne, what matters to them is their independence, and they are the most at risk when the white walkers attack due to their proximity to the great wall.

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[hatshepsut93]

I am a staunch supporter of the Starks, They are the most noble house in the entire realm and i hope they attain independence, they certainly dont care about the Iron Throne, what matters to them is their independence, and they are the most at risk when the white walkers attack due to their proximity to the great wall.

Actually Sansa seems to really want to sit on the Iron Throne, judging by her conversation with Littlefinger in the new episode 

what about the no one option?

the white walkers may kick everyone's ass and there would be no one alive to be king, or another power may emerge
~snip~

no-one option is:

The Night King           7.00

Here is my theory - humans will fight against each other, they will be weak, winter will come and Night King will defeat them all. He is un-dead king with special abilities ffs! Who can compete with that? 
And it is the end I would like to see 

There are rumors that the White Walkers are coming for Jon Snow as there are theories that say  that Jon Snow was the Prince who was promised to them 8000  years ago. The White Walkers had some kind of pact with the Starks that was broken by the Starks,because of which Brandon the builder from House Stark built the wall after the White Walkers returned to the north after losing the War of the Dawn,so that they couldn't come back and start a war again.
Yet again it's a rumor not sure if its going to happen.

This might be true in the books, but in series it has been shown that White Walkers are a superweapon created by Children of the Forest that went out of their control, so most likely that their motive is just purge the world from all living creatures.

[SvenBomvolen]

Obviously, Lord Varys will rule by proxy.

I'm also voting for him. The final is going to be unexpectable and I imagine everything will end like it was Varys's plan and manipulations to put everybody in this battle to they kill themselves and in the final he will stay the one.

[bbc.reporter]

Just finished watching. This first episode was decent compared to the general 1st episodes of other seasons which where rather slow. No info about who will be the last remaining winner of the Iron throne though. We just have to wait and watch. I still have my bet on Sansa. She's the weakest but probably has the best support around her(if you discard Daenerys). Others are the type of people who will be in the front line of the battle but that wouldnt be the case for Sansa Stark afaik. People will sacrifice themselves to keep her alive including Bran and Arya. We just have to wait and watch. This season will just have 8 episodes so.. 7 weeks left for the conclusion and epic battle before that.

It was ok. It is a little slow and honestly, a little boring. But I know the pace will pick up in maybe the 3rd episode.

About Sansa, I reckon she will evolve into something like Cersei Lannister who is very scheming and conniving. She will use Littlefinger to get what she wants. As you see, she and Jon Snow are already showing their differences.

[gabmen]

Just finished watching. This first episode was decent compared to the general 1st episodes of other seasons which where rather slow. No info about who will be the last remaining winner of the Iron throne though. We just have to wait and watch. I still have my bet on Sansa. She's the weakest but probably has the best support around her(if you discard Daenerys). Others are the type of people who will be in the front line of the battle but that wouldnt be the case for Sansa Stark afaik. People will sacrifice themselves to keep her alive including Bran and Arya. We just have to wait and watch. This season will just have 8 episodes so.. 7 weeks left for the conclusion and epic battle before that.

It was ok. It is a little slow and honestly, a little boring. But I know the pace will pick up in maybe the 3rd episode.

About Sansa, I reckon she will evolve into something like Cersei Lannister who is very scheming and conniving. She will use Littlefinger to get what she wants. As you see, she and Jon Snow are already showing their differences.

Sansa probably will get herself killed later in the series. I don't see her vying for the iron throne nor does she have any claim on it as well. And there would likely be something that will go down with her and littlefinger also. See'd likely beat that annoying baelish in a game of manipulations

[bbc.reporter]

@gabmen. No Sansa is not interested in the iron throne for now but she is already showing signs for her lust of power and control. She also mentioned that she has learned a lot from Cersei during her time in King's Landing. That is another sign of more friction to come with Jon.

2nd episode is coming!

[bbc.reporter]

What a good episode!

Spoiler Alert

Daenerys lost her fleet of ships to Euron Greyjoy when they were on their way to attack King's Landing. Meanwhile the Unsullied or on their way to Casterly Rock to lay siege on the home of the Lannisters. That battle will be in episode 3!

[poplolnman]

What a good episode!

Spoiler Alert

Daenerys lost her fleet of ships to Euron Greyjoy when they were on their way to attack King's Landing. Meanwhile the Unsullied or on their way to Casterly Rock to lay siege on the home of the Lannisters. That battle will be in episode 3!

the battle hint would of course appear feel like it's in the next episode everytime  , but i just remember that the producer david benioff promised in the last season game of thrones it's season 6 there would be the biggest battle ever but not happened i guess. let's see what he promised in the 7th season about another biggest battle. and we might would find who would rule !

[Hydrogen]

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Sansa has played a stereotypical role of damsel in distress throughout the series. Sansa has always been in trouble & has never been able to save herself without relying on others. I hope Sansa is able to do something cool for once. But I get the feeling Sansa will get into trouble once again & Arya will have to save her.

People were upset over Theon abandoning his sister. BUT Asha abandoned Theon first when Theon tried to hold Winterfell. Theon and his sister are even now! I think that's hilarious even though I probably shouldn't laugh about it.

I'm thinking the prophecy must refer to Jon Snow or Daenerys but statistically Cersei looks to be ahead as far as the war goes with Euron capturing Asha and the queen of dorne.

[hatshepsut93]

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Sansa has played a stereotypical role of damsel in distress throughout the series. Sansa has always been in trouble & has never been able to save herself without relying on others. I hope Sansa is able to do something cool for once. But I get the feeling Sansa will get into trouble once again & Arya will have to save her.

People were upset over Theon abandoning his sister. BUT Asha abandoned Theon first when Theon tried to hold Winterfell. Theon and his sister are even now! I think that's hilarious even though I probably shouldn't laugh about it.

I'm thinking the prophecy must refer to Jon Snow or Daenerys but statistically Cersei looks to be ahead as far as the war goes with Euron capturing Asha and the queen of dorne.

Sansa is already strong, she confronted Jon twice this season, as well as Littlefinger, and don't forget how she executed Ramsay in cold blood. She is not a fighter, but it doesn't mean she's weak, her intellect is her main weapon now.

She abandoned him because she thought he lost his mind, while he abandoned her recently out of pure fear. Or maybe he did it because he calculated that he can't save, so it's better to flee and warn Dany instead.

Cersei is one of the last villains in the show, so it's only a matter if she dies in this this season or the next one.

[matchi2011]

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Sansa has played a stereotypical role of damsel in distress throughout the series. Sansa has always been in trouble & has never been able to save herself without relying on others. I hope Sansa is able to do something cool for once. But I get the feeling Sansa will get into trouble once again & Arya will have to save her.

People were upset over Theon abandoning his sister. BUT Asha abandoned Theon first when Theon tried to hold Winterfell. Theon and his sister are even now! I think that's hilarious even though I probably shouldn't laugh about it.

I'm thinking the prophecy must refer to Jon Snow or Daenerys but statistically Cersei looks to be ahead as far as the war goes with Euron capturing Asha and the queen of dorne.

Sansa is already strong, she confronted Jon twice this season, as well as Littlefinger, and don't forget how she executed Ramsay in cold blood. She is not a fighter, but it doesn't mean she's weak, her intellect is her main weapon now.

She abandoned him because she thought he lost his mind, while he abandoned her recently out of pure fear. Or maybe he did it because he calculated that he can't save, so it's better to flee andI  warn Dany instead.

Cersei is one of the last villains in the show, so it's only a matter if she dies in this this season or the next one.

I like how sansa's character has evolved from season 1 up to now. Today it seems she's the scheming type much like that of baelish. I think she's even more dangerous than him now but it's possible she may end up dead this or next season. I think Jon also will sacrifice perhaps his king in the north status to get dany's help in the coming war.

[iluvbitcoins]

I like how sansa's character has evolved from season 1 up to now. Today it seems she's the scheming type much like that of baelish. I think she's even more dangerous than him now but it's possible she may end up dead this or next season. I think Jon also will sacrifice perhaps his king in the north status to get dany's help in the coming war.

Indeed, the dead are defeated by fire
Deny has 3 dragons
They are the biggest hope there are to defeating the Night King

I was very disappointed when she sent a letter calling Jon to bend the knee
That was very shitty, I was expecting her to side by Jon and allow them to hold the North

Theon and his sister are even now! I think that's hilarious even though I probably shouldn't laugh about it.

Well, you have understand him.
It's not his fault.
After going through what he went through every single person on this planet would be psychologically damaged beyond repair, there's no way in hell he could influence his own actions all the time beyond his instincts and fear projected from previous torture.

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About Baelish
They're very ungrateful towards him
He saved their fcking asses in front of Winterfell, didn't he help Sansa escape too?
They should be grateful to him for eternity, not dissing him like this

[pitiflin]

What a good episode!

Spoiler Alert

Daenerys lost her fleet of ships to Euron Greyjoy when they were on their way to attack King's Landing. Meanwhile the Unsullied or on their way to Casterly Rock to lay siege on the home of the Lannisters. That battle will be in episode 3!

the battle hint would of course appear feel like it's in the next episode everytime  , but i just remember that the producer david benioff promised in the last season game of thrones it's season 6 there would be the biggest battle ever but not happened i guess. let's see what he promised in the 7th season about another biggest battle. and we might would find who would rule !

Well the ruler of Westros will be decided at the end if the season 7 or even in season 8. Daenerys Stormborn and Cersei Lannister have equal chances ,for Daenerys has dragons and Cersei has Dragon Slayer,a weapon for slaying dragons.
Why Cersei would win:-
Dragon slayer is rarer than dragons in the ratio of 1:3. Also Cersei has Randyll Tarly one of the greatest mastermind and a warrior who can defeat Robert Baratheon himself on the battle field,the very person who has never been defeated. And there is Euron Greyjoy who Is going to gift , Yara Greyjoy and Ellaria Sand along with her daughter Tyene Sand to the Queen so that he proves himself worthy to the crown . Euron Greyjoy has travelled all over the world with his iron fleet on sea and is king of the Iron Islands. She also has the mad scientist ,Qyburn who is the hand of the Queen.There is her personal Queen's guard Gregor Clegane the vicious and dangerous Mountain and finally, her brother/lover Jaime Lannister all on her side to support her .
Why Daenerys would win:-
She has an army of 8000 Unsullied soldiers and 40,000 Dothraki men ,3 dragons ,the Dornish and the Tyrrell army ,and maybe an alliance with Jon Snow ,and maybe some of her iron fleet if not everything was destroyed by Euron. Tyrion Lannister is her hand and Varys her spy master by her side for advice.

[isen99ono]

I was very disappointed when she sent a letter calling Jon to bend the knee
That was very shitty, I was expecting her to side by Jon and allow them to hold the North

It sounds bad and should not be mentioned in his letter, that Jon should kneel in front of Daenerys. I really wondered if Jon would do that kneel in front of Daenerys and become an ally. Can not wait to see Jon and Daenerys meetings

[kodes88]

everybody will agree that this series is full of sureprise,at the begining i guest that Eddard Stark will keep alive until end the season,but at the season 1,he murdered. and now i just think Jon snow Bran Stark will grow with new strength and conquer the westernos.

[joebrook]

I was very disappointed when she sent a letter calling Jon to bend the knee
That was very shitty, I was expecting her to side by Jon and allow them to hold the North

It sounds bad and should not be mentioned in his letter, that Jon should kneel in front of Daenerys. I really wondered if Jon would do that kneel in front of Daenerys and become an ally. Can not wait to see Jon and Daenerys meetings

You know the one who really doesn't want the throne will end up becoming the King of westerns. Jon Snow has no ambition of being king and he is actually the rightful king of Westeros. As he is the son of Rhaegaer himself, he has more right than even the Dragon King but if you seek allies , you don't tell them to bend the knee.

[mtnsaa]

Most likely neither Jon Snow or Daenerys since I don't see the point in that, I would venture to say that one of them will die and if you press me I would say it will be Daenerys. Jon Snow is not fit to be a king or a ruler, more of a leader and will most likely remain that, so maybe he will hand of the king to whoever gets that title.

However I still think a Stark will rule coming full circle to Ed Stark, so I would say that Sansa is the one that makes most sense now plus it will be a nice story arc for her. We are getting some glimpses here and there from her evolution, if that continues to happen then look out...

[iluvbitcoins]

I was very disappointed when she sent a letter calling Jon to bend the knee
That was very shitty, I was expecting her to side by Jon and allow them to hold the North

It sounds bad and should not be mentioned in his letter, that Jon should kneel in front of Daenerys. I really wondered if Jon would do that kneel in front of Daenerys and become an ally. Can not wait to see Jon and Daenerys meetings

He read only Tyrions letter in episode 2, I'm unsure if Deny sent a seperate letter or that was the one o.o
If it was, the knee bending was avoided

I believe Jon has too much honor to bend the knee
However, he puts the battle against the dead above all else and might put aside his honor
He does have people beliving in him though

everybody will agree that this series is full of sureprise,at the begining i guest that Eddard Stark will keep alive until end the season,but at the season 1,he murdered. and now i just think Jon snow Bran Stark will grow with new strength and conquer the westernos.

Bran is definitely not going to conquer westeros

I was very disappointed when she sent a letter calling Jon to bend the knee
That was very shitty, I was expecting her to side by Jon and allow them to hold the North

It sounds bad and should not be mentioned in his letter, that Jon should kneel in front of Daenerys. I really wondered if Jon would do that kneel in front of Daenerys and become an ally. Can not wait to see Jon and Daenerys meetings

You know the one who really doesn't want the throne will end up becoming the King of westerns. Jon Snow has no ambition of being king and he is actually the rightful king of Westeros. As he is the son of Rhaegaer himself, he has more right than even the Dragon King but if you seek allies , you don't tell them to bend the knee.

He is, but how can you prove his legitimacy?

Joffrey and Tommen were born out of incest in no relation to Robert but their reign wasn't disputed
Him being the legitimate heir doesn't hold much influence

Most likely neither Jon Snow or Daenerys since I don't see the point in that, I would venture to say that one of them will die and if you press me I would say it will be Daenerys. Jon Snow is not fit to be a king or a ruler, more of a leader and will most likely remain that, so maybe he will hand of the king to whoever gets that title.

However I still think a Stark will rule coming full circle to Ed Stark, so I would say that Sansa is the one that makes most sense now plus it will be a nice story arc for her. We are getting some glimpses here and there from her evolution, if that continues to happen then look out...

He is a leader, not a hand of the king
I don't believe he'll assume such a function

A woman?
I don't think so.

[NorrisK]

Obviously, Lord Varys will rule by proxy.

I'm also voting for him. The final is going to be unexpectable and I imagine everything will end like it was Varys's plan and manipulations to put everybody in this battle to they kill themselves and in the final he will stay the one.

Meh, I don't think he has any ambition to rule at all.

He is smart and knows sitting on the iron throne will only get one killed sooner rather than later.

I'm still thinking Baelish, he is most cunning and wants it.

[bbc.reporter]

It is good to see that there are many more Game of Thrones fans here! What do you think of Cersei dying in the end of the season? I reckon that it might happen but not in the reason we think how. I predict Jaime will kill her because he really wants the power all for himself.

@Hydrogen. Sansa is not a damsel in distress anymore. For the past 3 or more seasons she was using her perceived innocence to survive.