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[minepool.de]

@Invis

So much investigation is needed ^^

1) I cannot find blocks in my pool (when comparing block height and hash with official list in explorer) that are valid but marked as orphaned. Please mention some blocks which are marked as orphaned but have to be unlocked.

2) I cannot explain why blocks in explorer are doubled!? Sure, some of my valid blocks appear multiple times in this list, but there are much more blocks in explorer list, that were not found by my pool. So this should be nothing related to my pool setup.

3) The seems to be a big misunderstanding. I wonder, why your pool displays a much more hash rate than the network totally has. I think this is the reason why you pay only 30-40% of really earned coins. The hash rate that my pool runs at is plausible. So, are you really sure, that there is not a wrong configuration in Dark's pool?

4) Thanks for hint about missing explorer links.

I want to mention, that it's not my intention to bring other pools down. But as I'm operating pools for KRB, AEON and some other coins, which run fine, I'm interested in solving the issues, that all pool operators and miners can participate at this coin.

[minepool.de]

Also, I don't think that more hashpower means more orphaned blocks. Since yesterday the hash power doesn't has increased. As you've already said, hashpower of network is decreasing instead. So your theory might be wrong.
But as you've noted, Dark's pool has more orphaned blocks since yesterday. And (sorry for repeating), I think, that's because Dark's pool owned nearly all hash power in past. But now, that some of its hashpower has migrated to other pools, there is a really hard competition between pools to find next block. Because block time is so short and blockchain sync seems to be too slow, there arise different blocks on same height.
I wonder why it takes 10-20 seconds until a block, that was found by Dark's pool and accepted by blockchain as new top block will appear in my local coin daemon. So my pool often works 10-20 seconds for nothing until it get's notified about new top block. And when block time is 60 seconds, it's plausible that there appear many orphaned blocks.

[Invis]

@minerpool.de

Blocks:
84123, 84105, 84100, 84099, 84092, 84091
and more more more
All this blocks are valid, but counted as orphaned by your pool.

Dark pool is not my pool.

Me and my friends make 3 private pools to make some tests, each with 10-15kh/s.
But netdiff still going down, and all pools have same issue with alot of orphaned by blockchain blocks. This is not pool related bug, this is blockchain related.

And really bad things - Mark readed all messages about this situation in telegramm, but didnt answer to anybody. And no fixes for 3 days. Seems coin dying

[minepool.de]

Really, I've overlooked the blocks. Thank, I'll dig into it and give feedback.

I know that Dark's pool is not yours, but you've written you are in contact with him. Don't you think net hashrate is going down because many miners are bad-tempered?
And yes, most orphaned blocks are blockchain related, but I think it's a combination of short block time and long sync time.

I don't think a coin will die because maintainer is not reachable for 3 days. Keep cool and wait some more days.

[Invis]

Really, I've overlooked the blocks. Thank, I'll dig into it and give feedback.

I know that Dark's pool is not yours, but you've written you are in contact with him. Don't you think net hashrate is going down because many miners are bad-tempered?
And yes, most orphaned blocks are blockchain related, but I think it's a combination of short block time and long sync time.

I don't think a coin will die because maintainer is not reachable for 3 days. Keep cool and wait some more days.

Last contact with Mark - 8 days ago.

[minepool.de]

Hum, really sad.
I've tried to debug block at height 84230:

1) My pool shows hash 14cc2ff
2) Explorer list shows hash 14cc2ff
3) Dark's pool shows hash 810601
4) And - that's creepy - my local coin daemon shows hash 810601 also

My coin daemon accepted block from Dark's pool. From this point of view, it's understable why the block get's marked as orphaned. And *this* is really a bug in blockchain.

Code:

print_block 84229
block_id: b4e06219188e0527ab56add3bb03f6dc20cfdee0b4e15384f74a8b6c998923a7
{"major_version":1,"miner_tx":{"extra":"01163759b3f005d8a3478db1d87658a240bcfbcaf2ea3c36cdc9564786f88791dc02080000000011788473","unlock_time":84288,"version":1,"vin":[{"type":"ff","value":{"height":84228}}],"vout":[{"amount":306601,"target":{"data":{"key":"b6b7bef8cd2d3870fb49a9406cdf7d43054c0e251b27ea4c917748cbbc1c9d4e"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":3000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"e7a8419e72acf5fe44379369411d136dea82eacc927bf5b5bd2f131c14d19e17"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":80000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"2b0faa547391b04860883b9e6e27ff6aa653ac86b25d6d130827a1cb9f516b1c"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":800000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"d0985af6793a64d69bde027ac7727793200bace868abe831a6f1d8e3c429cf0b"},"type":"02"}}]},"minor_version":0,"nonce":"0a0921b2","prev_id":"5a60691574d6e5f1f3e753b848d9452cb84889c4bade6f4f37ddcc3236a49f19","timestamp":1505461640,"tx_hashes":[]}
print_block 84230
block_id: 9e865479889a6bf69a16b6917604f894979a3aa2378a03e488e57f6a93f19f1d
{"major_version":1,"miner_tx":{"extra":"01296f27f29b3e6a88f20eb355f984b9925e1b547119f635b16e17b541390319c502080000000037e4d162","unlock_time":84289,"version":1,"vin":[{"type":"ff","value":{"height":84229}}],"vout":[{"amount":306391,"target":{"data":{"key":"83eeb99766b79287932b424dd4711cc1b7319f90a0b453e3aa526ee2ce982d37"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":3000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"ce1b475ac4ccece87515f4ccb3c9975e68cba9a1d52a17626c2d946603108a14"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":80000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"b2127a8410662f8d69ac16392f5af463d8a9535876bdb3da3a82f859c3272908"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":800000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"1d8b73034a694d10d6cc65bd62765836505f5a12c83955bda1d65d042879521d"},"type":"02"}}]},"minor_version":0,"nonce":"b5100000","prev_id":"b4e06219188e0527ab56add3bb03f6dc20cfdee0b4e15384f74a8b6c998923a7","timestamp":1505461725,"tx_hashes":[]}
print_block 84231
block_id: 8106016049118d9d4659d40101f3fb850cf1ee7edb7e29dc98c8a8cccbab374d
{"major_version":1,"miner_tx":{"extra":"01c376e9a4801976e6383a26e753a7390b4faecc65ee82751801297adb43dc380e0208000000001fb7e4db","unlock_time":84290,"version":1,"vin":[{"type":"ff","value":{"height":84230}}],"vout":[{"amount":306180,"target":{"data":{"key":"3e0f24dd55d1ee56954cb15870f49a517f0e8837b6108ff36fce60b225e84745"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":3000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"60748d4f398aa59b5df5ca813811a754ea9b71bcbb8f91a9bbc2a88e8a8f99c4"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":80000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"89bf02af8c9183ec4fa99d4d5d729527d46393a7ba8337d6096dd81f799e7c4b"},"type":"02"}},{"amount":800000000,"target":{"data":{"key":"a6512c0a438f88f71cfbffd358557c07f23071bc5c6ff0b7dfac0c1219305efb"},"type":"02"}}]},"minor_version":0,"nonce":"53360000","prev_id":"9e865479889a6bf69a16b6917604f894979a3aa2378a03e488e57f6a93f19f1d","timestamp":1505461770,"tx_hashes":[]}

Most strange thing is, that blockchain is always one block ahead. So block height 84230 in my local blockchain is 84229 in official explorer list.

Hah! See block list at Dark's pool. Even if official explorer list claims, that my block hash at 84230 is correct, Dark's pool has unlock his invalid block!

[Invis]

Hah! See block list at Dark's pool. Even if official explorer list claims, that my block hash at 84230 is correct, Dark's pool has unlock his invalid block!

I saw same at your pool and our test pools. Blockchain says that block is "ok", but after 10-15 seconds its got orphaned by network. This started after big hashrate increase, from 90-100kh/s to 600+kh/s.

[matejbilahora]

I sent a pack of coins to the stock exchange, less than half came.
The second part is hanging somewhere. What now with this?

You are not the only one who is missing coins. This has not been solved and I think it will not be solved in near future. This coin has some issues that need to be solved.

[minepool.de]

@Invis

The 10-15 seconds you mention is spooky near by the delay after which blocks arrive at my local node daemon.

I've tried to modify my pool to compare mined blocks against official explorer list. That worked stable but is also incorrect.
Block on height 84404 has same hash in my pool and in explorer list. One can assume, origin of block is my pool. Due to my changed this block get unlocked and *not* marked as orphaned. But looking in my pool wallet, I can see, that the reward for this block was cancelled. Don't know why. But I'm getting more crazy. I'm spending money on blocks that are orphaned really, even if official block list claims not.

Same with block 84430 and 84431, where both are contained in official list but only 84430 is accepted by network. To summarize: I think one can trust on accepted blocks by network and do NOT trust block list on official coin website.

[Alastord]

My wallet so crazy!

[matejbilahora]

My wallet so crazy!

Eh where did you get so much coins? There should be total max 54 mil coins..

[+Dimon+]

My wallet so crazy!
http://preview.ibb.co/j8a2PQ/shit.jpg

Eh where did you get so much coins? There should be total max 54 mil coins..

then a bug of coins can not be used was also a couple of days ago itself passed

[salecz]

Well well well, cryptopia block deposit because its problem with blockchain.
NO!!! Problem is with wallet and this scam coin.
Coin is dead!

[matejbilahora]

Well well well, cryptopia block deposit because its problem with blockchain.
NO!!! Problem is with wallet and this scam coin.
Coin is dead!

This is one the situations when someone releases coin and it is full of problems. Sad to say but I need to agree, coin is dead for the moment..

[salecz]

Well well well, cryptopia block deposit because its problem with blockchain.
NO!!! Problem is with wallet and this scam coin.
Coin is dead!

This is one the situations when someone releases coin and it is full of problems. Sad to say but I need to agree, coin is dead for the moment..

Wallet and blockchain have problems at start, i was writing about that, but dev ban me from telegram group because he have some problems with himself.
Dev is not normal, you cant do that with your miners or buyers. People still dont get refund from ICO.
All peoples are making me crazy. Now all of you know that i just said the truth.
Bye bye XLC

[Dr.Lecter]

Well well well, cryptopia block deposit because its problem with blockchain.
NO!!! Problem is with wallet and this scam coin.
Coin is dead!

This is one the situations when someone releases coin and it is full of problems. Sad to say but I need to agree, coin is dead for the moment..

Wallet and blockchain have problems at start, i was writing about that, but dev ban me from telegram group because he have some problems with himself.
Dev is not normal, you cant do that with your miners or buyers. People still dont get refund from ICO.
All peoples are making me crazy. Now all of you know that i just said the truth.
Bye bye XLC

so sad, i can't believe XLC is scam coin.

[Lorembor]

OK, there are a few technical difficulties at the moment. But our coin has beta status, right?

The wallet problem is not a serious problem. These are only transactions that are not on the blockchain. I have explained here the six steps with which you can solve the problem yourself.

The second problem with the orphaned blocks seems to me to be more severe. It is important that developers now react quickly. If necessary, you can also increase the Blocktime until a better solution is found.
But it is important to react quickly now. The network lost 75% Hashpower in a few days. Some Miners will not come back, because in this forum bad mood was made. This bad mood does not fit to the minor technical difficulties.

That's why the coin does not have to be declared dead. This just shows that these people have no idea of cryptos.

[zmija]

Hi I can't transfer coins from ico site to wallet. It keep asking me "Do you want to get your investment back or take your XLC?" but can't click anything
Help would be appreciated. Thx

[salecz]

Hi I can't transfer coins from ico site to wallet. It keep asking me "Do you want to get your investment back or take your XLC?" but can't click anything
Help would be appreciated. Thx

Dev dont want to talk with us. This coin is SCAM!
All dev words are "this is not scam", "i will ban you"
You cant do this because you are dev, you must respect us!

[Igor535]

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