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April 05, 2017, 05:37:28 PM
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Just came in like 20 min ago 4/5/2017!  Review is incoming very soon!  Here is a few pics to wet the whistle

4/5/17
At first glance it looks pretty decent.  A little big basically 4U at 6.5 Inches tall.  If you pop the cover off be careful because the edges are sharp and will cut the hell out of you.  Kind of like the old days with those atx cases you would leave your DNA in all the time.  After it running for 6 hours its doing 230mhs out of the box on ETH at 1180 Watts.  Seems quieter even though it is about 70db at a meter away.  Its more of a deep hum instead of a high pitch squeal like the B1.  

It's well packaged like usual.  Open it up and everything is secure.  I wish it had 4 fans on each side but it might be enough.  It boots up like a champ, you might have an issue with HDMI connection, I had to use HDMI to DVI plug on my monitor to see it in POST mode so I could go in and change the power setting.  Once in desktop its in ENGLISH! That's a damn good start considering the pain of trying to load it on the B1.  you can modify the pool and wallet and it will mine like a champ.  I recommend Claymores 9 because it don't take 93 years now to load cards.  It has Teamviewer loaded already withe the code on the side.  Change your PW.  I personally like VNC so I uninstall it and use VNC.  

It's a pretty decent box and a pretty good price if you are fortunate to be able to get one.  I think the big farms are buying them as soon as they come available.

Eliovp is working on some roms so we will test that as well.  All in all, pretty happy with it.

It's basic, does exactly what it says and honestly better than the B1.  

4/7/17
*** WARNING ***
The shipped bios on the first shipment of pandas to me and heliox seem unstable.  Out of 20 i was getting about 5-7  crash within hours of being turned on.  With heliox bios they have been running for 24 hours no crashes.  I think panda is coming out with a release or they already addressed it and new ones have it.  They will send it to me and I will post it on this review for a link to download.  Sorry can not post heliox bios as that is his and he is not free  Tongue
*** UPDATE ***
They sent me a new bios right away and I am testing it to make sure it is more stable.  Then I will post it.
Confirmed it's a little better rom here is the link it is zipped with the rom and instructions direct from panda in them.  There is no virus attached but if you don't trust me then don't download it.  http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/pandab3bios.zip



TON O PANDAS
I'll have some fun tonight!



OPEN BOX
Well packaged as usual



COVER OFF


CARD
Basic card with 1 HDMI port
RX470 4G



FAN
fans seem adequate I will put my velometer on it tomorrow
 


BOARD
Looks basic and solid with 8 full slots the cards fit very snug and dont move.



DIMENSIONS




INSIDE (Between the fans) DIMENSIONS


BIRDSEYE VIEW NO CARDS
name says it all



Memory & Hard Drive



Motherboard Back



Case No MB



Video Card Front



Video Card Back



PANDA Broken APART
Panda in pieces.  I'll take board completely out tomorrow.



REAL FREAKIN BUMMER
DAMN sucks we cant put a full size card in it  Sad




SORRY SO DIRTY BUT GETTING THEM UP IN A HURRY
My setup, I plan on putting 4 per shelf but i was busy getting as many as I could up and running




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April 05, 2017, 05:41:13 PM
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I Will use this for Pros: (more to come)

Small
Bang for the Buck
minimal connections
1080 Watts x 8 Cards for 230 ETH
Preloaded ENGLISH YAY!
Pretty much as they say out of the box add your wallet and mine

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April 05, 2017, 05:41:25 PM
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I will use this for cons: (more to come)

If you use a HDMI to HDMI Connection you might skip right past POST
If you have the cover off be careful not to cut yourself
need a pen or stick to turn on as power button is recessed
can't fit full size card in
Can't adjust power because the card has a crappy voltage core.

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April 05, 2017, 05:41:42 PM
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Awesome! Is that an Rx470 with a 6+1 phase VRM?
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April 05, 2017, 05:52:25 PM
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okay  I see the heat sink   for the vrm and the  gpu chip

looks like

 fans  go across the heatsink fins in this manner correct?
and what are the fans make and model please.
   



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April 05, 2017, 06:05:31 PM
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Ya give me a few I just got them and getting them unboxed and stuff to start printing.  I'll post a crap ton of pics real soon.

you will be happy to know they loaded ENGLISH on these though =)

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April 05, 2017, 06:12:46 PM
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fans posted Phil 

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April 05, 2017, 06:52:50 PM
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Just came in like 20 min ago 4/5/2017!  Review is incoming very soon!  Here is a few pics to wet the whistle


Those are like the leaked photos I saw -- I'm sure this will be answered in time but how long is it -- what are dimensions?

Well on second glance, it looks like they eliminated the 4th fan that blows air across CPU in final design.
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April 05, 2017, 07:48:37 PM
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so jelly

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April 05, 2017, 08:26:43 PM
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fans posted Phil  

spec link

http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/part-numbers/DC-Axial-Fans/4715KL-04W-B59-E00/5268

they appear to be 130 cf. max  and  maybe 12 watts max.  as there are .74 amp and 1 amp specs.

that is 9 to 12 watts a fan speed = 3600 rpm max and 130 cfm max



this does 133 cfm at 3000 rpm and maybe a little quieter

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE

it uses .6 amp max = 7.2 watts

http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/fans/ultra-kaze-120.html


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fans posted Phil  

spec link

http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/part-numbers/DC-Axial-Fans/4715KL-04W-B59-E00/5268

they appear to be 130 cf. max  and  maybe 12 watts max.  as there are .74 amp and 1 amp specs.

that is 9 to 12 watts a fan speed = 3600 rpm max and 130 cfm max

Pretty low static pressure on them .44
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fans posted Phil  

spec link

http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/part-numbers/DC-Axial-Fans/4715KL-04W-B59-E00/5268

they appear to be 130 cf. max  and  maybe 12 watts max.  as there are .74 amp and 1 amp specs.

that is 9 to 12 watts a fan speed = 3600 rpm max and 130 cfm max

Pretty low static pressure on them .44

yep  means the scythe should work   use less power move more air and sound quieter.

note that is for a guy with one or 2 of them.

if I had 28 pandas I would want a faster fan with a little more balls.  maybe a delta



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fans posted Phil  

spec link

http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/part-numbers/DC-Axial-Fans/4715KL-04W-B59-E00/5268

they appear to be 130 cf. max  and  maybe 12 watts max.  as there are .74 amp and 1 amp specs.

that is 9 to 12 watts a fan speed = 3600 rpm max and 130 cfm max

Pretty low static pressure on them .44

yep  means the scythe should work   use less power move more air and sound quieter.

note that is for a guy with one or 2 of them.

if I had 28 pandas I would want a faster fan with a little more balls.  maybe a delta



https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835706028&cm_re=delta_120mm-_-35-706-028-_-Product

Agreed there, depending on cooling, may need to supplement with external fans as an option to replacing
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sell me one to play with please Cheesy

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Okay, some more info

As already known, they're 470's 4G.

They ship them with already modified roms (Which are horrible, really, i have no idea what they were thinking but wtf..?)

So they copied the 1500 strap all the way up to 2000 and clocked it at 2050, which is ok, no problem there, everyone does this.

What bothers me is that they tried to set memory voltage, which makes no sense because it just doesn't work and thought it would be a good idea to skip DPM0 (300Mh 'core') and just overwrite it with (1135Mh)  Roll Eyes , i honestly have no idea why...

Anywho, obviously i changed all of that, wrote a custom strap, added voltage offset and guess what...

Already got speed (ETH) up by 1MH and power down, obviously not finished with it yet (pretty sure i'll get them over 30).  Wink

Here's a screeny, running their windows for testing purposes, only flashed 1 GPU to see the difference Smiley (GPU5)



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April 05, 2017, 09:27:50 PM
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29 and change is pretty good.

nice work.

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29 and change is pretty good.

nice work.

Forgot to mention, core clock 1140  Wink

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Okay, some more info

As already known, they're 470's 4G.

They ship them with already modified roms (Which are horrible, really, i have no idea what they were thinking but wtf..?)

So they copied the 1500 strap all the way up to 2000 and clocked it at 2050, which is ok, no problem there, everyone does this.

What bothers me is that they tried to set memory voltage, which makes no sense because it just doesn't work and thought it would be a good idea to skip DPM0 (300Mh 'core') and just overwrite it with (1135Mh)  Roll Eyes , i honestly have no idea why...

Anywho, obviously i changed all of that, wrote a custom strap, added voltage offset and guess what...

Already got speed (ETH) up by 1MH and power down, obviously not finished with it yet (pretty sure i'll get them over 30).  Wink

Here's a screeny, running their windows for testing purposes, only flashed 1 GPU to see the difference Smiley (GPU5)

http://deklinge.be/pandab3winclay.png

Greetings!



Wow, that hashrate is great. I'd like to construct one of these with R9 NANO cards, SOMEHOW,SOMEWAY. Man, if all those were R9s, you would destroy Zcash with that military surplus warpile of pandas you have.
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April 06, 2017, 01:52:00 AM
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Sorry guys I did not get the amount I wanted so they are not for sale.

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