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April 06, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
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I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

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April 06, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
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Saving money for a nice product can be a goal Smiley
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April 06, 2017, 07:22:16 PM
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No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women.
sounds like good goal to me  Tongue
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April 06, 2017, 07:36:48 PM
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No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women.
sounds like good goal to me  Tongue

Sounds like a declining society  Wink
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April 06, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
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I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.
Ahh you are right more or less, it all depends where you live and what personality you have. There are a lot of people that i know which have goal in there life. Some succeeded and some i hope will in future. But you are right when you say that most of people are made in perfect consumers, i see that more and more everyday. And it saddens me a lot. What you said about past and fight for freedom and rights are not needed in this day and age, because we have most of that. It all comes with evolution of human society. Person with enough personality will know what to do and what he wants, and won't succumb to other peoples brainwash.
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April 06, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
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I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

In my mind, the real remaining question is 'how?' though it is not likely a simple answer.



Another part missing from the graphic "... . Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so."

On the topic of 'freedom', here's another perennial favorite of mine:



I would add that 'we' are not really all that aware of what people were like in the past.  At least not first-hand.  It might be deceptively easy to paint 'zombie-ism' with to broad a brush.  Or not.


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April 06, 2017, 09:05:49 PM
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Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen.
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April 06, 2017, 09:10:05 PM
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People have no goals because they see no prospects. It seems to me that any war brings up in people patriotism and humanity. We long to live without war and so grew a society of consumers. Our goal is to buy a car and home to jealous neighbors. It's very sad.
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April 06, 2017, 09:22:06 PM
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Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen.

There are enough gay people out there that it certainly should be accepted as a norm. They're not going anywhere and I don't think they could change even if they wanted to.

As for the OP, I know some people. I can't really think of a single one who qualifies as a zombie or a mindless consumerist and they all have plans but perhaps I'm sheltered.

The internet is the great unknown. So many young minds are still forming that have never known anything else. I really do not think it's a very healthy thing so be surrounded by for your entire youth. Give it another couple of decades and things will be clearer, and probably more depressing.
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April 06, 2017, 09:28:32 PM
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Money is the only goal in this life.

Living a healthy life is the second. You can nearly buy everything with money, even health. (unless you aren't fucked up beyond repair) Are we brainwashed? Damn, yes. We are like little rats, working our asses off everyday for dollars.

Watch "American Psycho" if you haven't watch yet and see how crazy we can get for money. The dude(Bale) who plays Patrick has a great amount of money and can buy everything yet he is not happy at all. Worse yet, he doesn't have a "real" friend.

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April 06, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
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Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen.
So people are taught to be tolerant of gays and lesbians. I have no aversion to them, but I don't think this is normal. And I can never admit that. I am opposed to homosexuals were allowed to hold gay parades. This promotion is alien to my values.
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April 07, 2017, 09:05:33 AM
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I look around and see people no longer have goals.

We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.

No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.

In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.


People no longer need to fight for their basic freedoms, at least in most democracies. It just that consumerism is showing some of its unattractive aspects. One is "decision paralysis". "Oh all those bags, I want them all but can only buy one. But there's so many of them,". Then after that comes "buyer's remorse". "Could I have been more attractive to him had I used that rather than this?".

Now if you think this only applies to merchandise, you're wrong. How many of you has known someone who can't decide on which of their various interests to follow, or have a friend who was always pining for "the one that got away,".



No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women.
sounds like good goal to me  Tongue

Sounds like a declining society  Wink

Well, we live in a society where money is important. With wages barely rising, getting more bang for your bucks is an achievement in itself.
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April 07, 2017, 09:15:31 AM
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Yes we are indeed brainwashed. It started with the television, invented by the CIA as a means of mass-influence.

We are but a mere number but who cares?

It's really just a blue pill-red pill kinda thing.

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April 07, 2017, 02:49:48 PM
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Yes we are indeed brainwashed. It started with the television, invented by the CIA as a means of mass-influence.

We are but a mere number but who cares?

It's really just a blue pill-red pill kinda thing.
It can be explained as Blue pill / Red pill situation, but i can't agree that we are just a mere number, and i care. First of all, only selfish people look on other people only like numbers, and that is wrong on so many levels. But most important thing here is that we don't lie to our self, and after that to other. It is bad and sad to see someone who lives in a lie, and i don't want that for my self. So that is why its important to take the "right pill" . Cheesy
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April 07, 2017, 11:45:40 PM
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 Yes by our governments..

Money is a reward,  <  No it's not

People can work hard for a reward only to be rewarded with nothing..
Money is slavery ..We slave to get it.

You see in the 21st century people need to use their brains to be rewarded.
Like invent something everyone wants I.E Bill gates type of people.

Now we all know it's only the few who can accomplish this..

Now many many years ago the bread winners was a person called gaston
 no one was as big as gaston as bad as gaston.
And gaston could just take what he wanted because the strongest survived .

How did kings come to be?..
Most people respect the royals... Oh you must act like the royals..
Ok that means killing and robbing people of there money Wink..
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And when you do it speak POSH..
People love you for it    MANNERS goes along way even if your getting robbed..

So is money a reward  ?

We kill for it lie cheat steal    and even people will do it to their own family for it..

So if you think money is a reward YOUR AN ASS HOLE..OH YOU ARE Wink..


GET THAT DONE IT'S A REWARD Wink..Yes your thinking

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I am so angry with my government..

We get told we are making so much money so the rich get greedy and greedy..

It's the few making so much money because it's SET UP THAT WAY..

One law i would put in practice for business ..

Imagine you set up a company in the uk and the average wage is £10 an hour..
I think you should not be able to move your company to another country unless you pay that countries people £10 an hour..So it stops a company leaving for cheap labour..

Now imagine they did move they can still sell that product on your markets if they pay £10 an hour
to the people in the country they moved business too..

But if they move to another country for cheaper labour then they should not be able to sell that product on your markets..

The company cut it's own people out for profits and as the cheek to want to sell his product to you..

Yes it's ok to move if you pay the same wages in AFRICA as you do in the UK..

Now how many will move business ..

Just think   if a big company can make 50p more to sell to the masses they will move..
Even though they are making good money they want more .
Because the share holders want more too..

So because of our greed we kill our own countries labour..

Now just imagine you want to sell to other countries if you set up in another country
you will lift that country out of poverty..
You be paying an African £10 an hour..

Or Universal income for all and just carry on how we live..
But everyone as a starting point to live..LESS STRESS.

I don't mean give everyone £1000 pounds just £200 pounds for the Uk just to pay a few bills
and live a bit no questions asked ..

Just give us the money and let us live our lives..

Money is a ticket for work done..well do more off it and give us some more tickets for the work done..

So someone doing this work?..YES THE ROBOTS Wink
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The main point was the government brain wash us ..
Because they say they are spending money on this that and tuther .

No CUTS CUTS CUTS CUTS..<Even before Brexit started..

Now i am from a place loads of crime ..
BUT NOW IT'S GONE CRAZY..

More shootings than ever and guns not legal in the UK ..The young children have gone wild.
It's become like America ..We had gangs but with fist and sticks..
Now bang your dead and over someone walking in the wrong area..

NEVER EVER BEEN LIKE THIS..

What will happen is the very rich will be able to hire security and the not so rich and the middle class will be getting robbed so much it's like a cancer..

When i was a child growing up on the street it was so wrong to hit a poor pensioner for his money
Now they do it for fun and rob him Angry Angry Cry..

And then they do public cuts and then invite immigrants to do this..

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21 Apr 2016 - Homicides were up 11% and knife attacks up 9% last year ... a total of 573 homicides in England and Wales, an 11 per cent increase on 2014..


THE UK IS LIKE..                  HILL STREET BLUES.
    
And soon like the move the WARRIORS              come out to play Cheesy

One of Americas richest city ..Moved for even cheaper labour..Fords still going ..

A ford locust   <a new type of ford car ..No it's a bad car Wink..uses all the workers and fucks off..
 
A ford locust  runs on grass    i mean gas..

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GOT TO BE RULES ..NO RULES FOR BIG BUSINESS ..
Pay politicians to lick your BUTT HOLE..I.E let me pay 50 million on 1 billion profits and i will give your party 20 million..

Then 600 million lost off just 1 company to pay for schools and hospitals
Now imagine they do it to 10 companies ?

Now because not enough money for the public because they never took the tax  
they put our future children in debt  FOR THEIR GREED.


Even the DEATH PENALTY DON'T WORK< The poor don't care about death..

50 CENT get rich or die trying..<Total Capitalism product
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  Drug dealing or home invasions

Get rich or die trying  well it wont happen packing beans unless they are your beans..
Wont happen if a policemen BUT you can die..

28 Sep 2016 - Houston's murder rate is on the rise year over year, and a recent study says Houston is one of three cities driving an increase..

UNIVERSAL INCOME FOR ALL US HUMANS ..EVERYBODY ..

The government can only put out so much money each year and if the rich keep sucking it up
the more we need to borrow and borrow ..
and then one day we cannot borrow anymore and the rich loose because no one can buy..

Universal income keeps the money flow always..

Make more of the product     to compensate for all our universal income spending..

Robots will do it and so what humans still make a bit more of for us all..

Extra 1 hour work making the products      so we all get a universal income ..



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April 08, 2017, 03:32:51 AM
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Why as everything gone up so much..   Is it because of demand   like it suppose to be?.

It's gone up because politicians have an interest in what ever as gone up..

Like medicine how many percent as some drugs gone up    because of DEMAND?..

Now imagine your the politician who makes the money ?
when you die you give your money to your children?..

What happens if one of your cousins children get sick and need that medicine  that you put so much because your making money..

Your children wont give nothing to your cousins..
by the time your dead your children wont know your cousins children..

Now i really care for my cousins children BUT my daughter don't care because she doesn't really know them..

Now if i am in power what i do can affect my family without me knowing it..

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH ..TOTAL CAPITALISM = TAKE IT ALL OF MY FELLOW HUMAN ..

See every leader thinks of a way to line there own pockets so it must involve taking public money some how..
So we all end up loosing if they keep doing this..
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around my living people already do not know anymore recognize good behavior even dare to even small children against the parents.

I think why should all this way all due invoices and era neighborhood is growing and that immorality can be seen on the internet by our successors.

which must have been brainwashed.
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Well i kind of had the same thought also. It seems that we focus more nowadays in material belongings and social statuses. Gone are the days where respect, loyalty and dignity weighs a lot more than personal gains. I think the later generations would wind up this road were treading right now and its quite sad

 
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