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Title: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 06:48:57 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ridery99 on April 06, 2017, 07:09:49 PM Saving money for a nice product can be a goal :)
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: spngebob on April 06, 2017, 07:22:16 PM No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. sounds like good goal to me :PTitle: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ridery99 on April 06, 2017, 07:36:48 PM No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. sounds like good goal to me :PSounds like a declining society ;) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Eternu on April 06, 2017, 08:52:52 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Ahh you are right more or less, it all depends where you live and what personality you have. There are a lot of people that i know which have goal in there life. Some succeeded and some i hope will in future. But you are right when you say that most of people are made in perfect consumers, i see that more and more everyday. And it saddens me a lot. What you said about past and fight for freedom and rights are not needed in this day and age, because we have most of that. It all comes with evolution of human society. Person with enough personality will know what to do and what he wants, and won't succumb to other peoples brainwash.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on April 06, 2017, 09:02:43 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. In my mind, the real remaining question is 'how?' though it is not likely a simple answer. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/ayoub_51.jpg Another part missing from the graphic "... . Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so." On the topic of 'freedom', here's another perennial favorite of mine: http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-none-are-so-hopelessly-enslaved-as-those-who-falsely-believe-they-are-free-the-truth-has-been-johann-wolfgang-von-goethe-343332.jpg I would add that 'we' are not really all that aware of what people were like in the past. At least not first-hand. It might be deceptively easy to paint 'zombie-ism' with to broad a brush. Or not. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: bra4our on April 06, 2017, 09:05:49 PM Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Lancusters on April 06, 2017, 09:10:05 PM People have no goals because they see no prospects. It seems to me that any war brings up in people patriotism and humanity. We long to live without war and so grew a society of consumers. Our goal is to buy a car and home to jealous neighbors. It's very sad.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: gentlemand on April 06, 2017, 09:22:06 PM Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen. There are enough gay people out there that it certainly should be accepted as a norm. They're not going anywhere and I don't think they could change even if they wanted to. As for the OP, I know some people. I can't really think of a single one who qualifies as a zombie or a mindless consumerist and they all have plans but perhaps I'm sheltered. The internet is the great unknown. So many young minds are still forming that have never known anything else. I really do not think it's a very healthy thing so be surrounded by for your entire youth. Give it another couple of decades and things will be clearer, and probably more depressing. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mindrust on April 06, 2017, 09:28:32 PM Money is the only goal in this life.
Living a healthy life is the second. You can nearly buy everything with money, even health. (unless you aren't fucked up beyond repair) Are we brainwashed? Damn, yes. We are like little rats, working our asses off everyday for dollars. Watch "American Psycho" if you haven't watch yet and see how crazy we can get for money. The dude(Bale) who plays Patrick has a great amount of money and can buy everything yet he is not happy at all. Worse yet, he doesn't have a "real" friend. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Lieldoryn on April 06, 2017, 09:53:44 PM Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen. So people are taught to be tolerant of gays and lesbians. I have no aversion to them, but I don't think this is normal. And I can never admit that. I am opposed to homosexuals were allowed to hold gay parades. This promotion is alien to my values.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Mometaskers on April 07, 2017, 09:05:33 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. People no longer need to fight for their basic freedoms, at least in most democracies. It just that consumerism is showing some of its unattractive aspects. One is "decision paralysis". "Oh all those bags, I want them all but can only buy one. But there's so many of them,". Then after that comes "buyer's remorse". "Could I have been more attractive to him had I used that rather than this?". Now if you think this only applies to merchandise, you're wrong. How many of you has known someone who can't decide on which of their various interests to follow, or have a friend who was always pining for "the one that got away,". No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. sounds like good goal to me :PSounds like a declining society ;) Well, we live in a society where money is important. With wages barely rising, getting more bang for your bucks is an achievement in itself. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: RJX on April 07, 2017, 09:15:31 AM Yes we are indeed brainwashed. It started with the television, invented by the CIA as a means of mass-influence.
We are but a mere number but who cares? It's really just a blue pill-red pill kinda thing. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Eternu on April 07, 2017, 02:49:48 PM Yes we are indeed brainwashed. It started with the television, invented by the CIA as a means of mass-influence. It can be explained as Blue pill / Red pill situation, but i can't agree that we are just a mere number, and i care. First of all, only selfish people look on other people only like numbers, and that is wrong on so many levels. But most important thing here is that we don't lie to our self, and after that to other. It is bad and sad to see someone who lives in a lie, and i don't want that for my self. So that is why its important to take the "right pill" . :DWe are but a mere number but who cares? It's really just a blue pill-red pill kinda thing. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: popcorn1 on April 07, 2017, 11:45:40 PM Yes by our governments..
Money is a reward, < No it's not People can work hard for a reward only to be rewarded with nothing.. Money is slavery ..We slave to get it. You see in the 21st century people need to use their brains to be rewarded. Like invent something everyone wants I.E Bill gates type of people. Now we all know it's only the few who can accomplish this.. Now many many years ago the bread winners was a person called gaston no one was as big as gaston as bad as gaston. And gaston could just take what he wanted because the strongest survived . How did kings come to be?.. Most people respect the royals... Oh you must act like the royals.. Ok that means killing and robbing people of there money ;).. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And when you do it speak POSH.. People love you for it MANNERS goes along way even if your getting robbed.. So is money a reward ? We kill for it lie cheat steal and even people will do it to their own family for it.. So if you think money is a reward YOUR AN ASS HOLE..OH YOU ARE ;).. GET THAT DONE IT'S A REWARD ;)..Yes your thinking Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: popcorn1 on April 08, 2017, 12:28:10 AM I am so angry with my government..
We get told we are making so much money so the rich get greedy and greedy.. It's the few making so much money because it's SET UP THAT WAY.. One law i would put in practice for business .. Imagine you set up a company in the uk and the average wage is £10 an hour.. I think you should not be able to move your company to another country unless you pay that countries people £10 an hour..So it stops a company leaving for cheap labour.. Now imagine they did move they can still sell that product on your markets if they pay £10 an hour to the people in the country they moved business too.. But if they move to another country for cheaper labour then they should not be able to sell that product on your markets.. The company cut it's own people out for profits and as the cheek to want to sell his product to you.. Yes it's ok to move if you pay the same wages in AFRICA as you do in the UK.. Now how many will move business .. Just think if a big company can make 50p more to sell to the masses they will move.. Even though they are making good money they want more . Because the share holders want more too.. So because of our greed we kill our own countries labour.. Now just imagine you want to sell to other countries if you set up in another country you will lift that country out of poverty.. You be paying an African £10 an hour.. Or Universal income for all and just carry on how we live.. But everyone as a starting point to live..LESS STRESS. I don't mean give everyone £1000 pounds just £200 pounds for the Uk just to pay a few bills and live a bit no questions asked .. Just give us the money and let us live our lives.. Money is a ticket for work done..well do more off it and give us some more tickets for the work done.. So someone doing this work?..YES THE ROBOTS ;) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: popcorn1 on April 08, 2017, 01:24:09 AM The main point was the government brain wash us ..
Because they say they are spending money on this that and tuther . No CUTS CUTS CUTS CUTS..<Even before Brexit started.. Now i am from a place loads of crime .. BUT NOW IT'S GONE CRAZY.. More shootings than ever and guns not legal in the UK ..The young children have gone wild. It's become like America ..We had gangs but with fist and sticks.. Now bang your dead and over someone walking in the wrong area.. NEVER EVER BEEN LIKE THIS.. What will happen is the very rich will be able to hire security and the not so rich and the middle class will be getting robbed so much it's like a cancer.. When i was a child growing up on the street it was so wrong to hit a poor pensioner for his money Now they do it for fun and rob him >:( >:( :'(.. And then they do public cuts and then invite immigrants to do this.. Police arrest 900 Syrians in England and Wales for rape, death threats ... www.express.co.uk › News › UK 1 Aug 2016 - SHOCKING police figures released for England and Wales have shown nearly ... The UK Government is working to resettle up to 20,000 Syrian ... Britain facing violent crime wave as stabbings and murders soar - Mirror www.mirror.co.uk › News › UK News › Crime 21 Apr 2016 - Homicides were up 11% and knife attacks up 9% last year ... a total of 573 homicides in England and Wales, an 11 per cent increase on 2014.. THE UK IS LIKE.. HILL STREET BLUES. And soon like the move the WARRIORS come out to play :D One of Americas richest city ..Moved for even cheaper labour..Fords still going .. A ford locust <a new type of ford car ..No it's a bad car ;)..uses all the workers and fucks off.. A ford locust runs on grass i mean gas.. A Tour Of Detroit's Ghetto 2015 - YouTube Video for detroit ghetto▶ 8:31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfxmshUEvbg 11 Jul 2015 - Uploaded by camosilver Driving through Detroit is a real eye opener for those who have never visited the city. What makes Detroit . GOT TO BE RULES ..NO RULES FOR BIG BUSINESS .. Pay politicians to lick your BUTT HOLE..I.E let me pay 50 million on 1 billion profits and i will give your party 20 million.. Then 600 million lost off just 1 company to pay for schools and hospitals Now imagine they do it to 10 companies ? Now because not enough money for the public because they never took the tax they put our future children in debt FOR THEIR GREED. Even the DEATH PENALTY DON'T WORK< The poor don't care about death.. 50 CENT get rich or die trying..<Total Capitalism product ^ Drug dealing or home invasions Get rich or die trying well it wont happen packing beans unless they are your beans.. Wont happen if a policemen BUT you can die.. 28 Sep 2016 - Houston's murder rate is on the rise year over year, and a recent study says Houston is one of three cities driving an increase.. UNIVERSAL INCOME FOR ALL US HUMANS ..EVERYBODY .. The government can only put out so much money each year and if the rich keep sucking it up the more we need to borrow and borrow .. and then one day we cannot borrow anymore and the rich loose because no one can buy.. Universal income keeps the money flow always.. Make more of the product to compensate for all our universal income spending.. Robots will do it and so what humans still make a bit more of for us all.. Extra 1 hour work making the products so we all get a universal income .. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: popcorn1 on April 08, 2017, 03:32:51 AM Why as everything gone up so much.. Is it because of demand like it suppose to be?.
It's gone up because politicians have an interest in what ever as gone up.. Like medicine how many percent as some drugs gone up because of DEMAND?.. Now imagine your the politician who makes the money ? when you die you give your money to your children?.. What happens if one of your cousins children get sick and need that medicine that you put so much because your making money.. Your children wont give nothing to your cousins.. by the time your dead your children wont know your cousins children.. Now i really care for my cousins children BUT my daughter don't care because she doesn't really know them.. Now if i am in power what i do can affect my family without me knowing it.. HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH ..TOTAL CAPITALISM = TAKE IT ALL OF MY FELLOW HUMAN .. See every leader thinks of a way to line there own pockets so it must involve taking public money some how.. So we all end up loosing if they keep doing this.. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: dwieyani on April 08, 2017, 03:42:36 AM around my living people already do not know anymore recognize good behavior even dare to even small children against the parents.
I think why should all this way all due invoices and era neighborhood is growing and that immorality can be seen on the internet by our successors. which must have been brainwashed. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: gabmen on April 08, 2017, 10:16:52 AM Well i kind of had the same thought also. It seems that we focus more nowadays in material belongings and social statuses. Gone are the days where respect, loyalty and dignity weighs a lot more than personal gains. I think the later generations would wind up this road were treading right now and its quite sad
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ekoice on April 08, 2017, 10:43:29 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Yes,we are caught under consumerism.We are always tempted to buy new products whether it is necessary for us or not.When iphone 5 is enough for us,we get temptation to buy iphone 6 and then to iphone 7.Its an endless journey.At last,our pockets will be empty and the company owners with filled pockets.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Daniel91 on April 08, 2017, 11:17:00 AM In the past, 5000 or 10 000 years ago, people didn't know much about world, natural laws etc.
Even at that time so called ''wizards or priests'' manipulated and brainwashed them. Later, kings and his servants often manipulated people and today politicians and media. We can't know everything, what is going on in the world. So, we have no choice but to listen media or politicians. Can we trust them? When we see how many times they lied to us, I don't think so. When something important happen, in my opinion, it's the best try to collect info from many different sources, and based on this find out what really happen. Use your own brain and common sense. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Yanisumin on April 08, 2017, 11:30:25 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. People are no longer care about their civil liberties, they care about their standard of life. The modern world has outgrown notions like freedom. They are content to follow. The threat remains while free will exists. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. © Script from the assassins Creed movie We've been the prisoner of the worldy ideas created by humans. Some of us resist and at the same time dying in that resistance. The wrongs of the world are clear yet people just follow like a dog because of the laws created by humans. Are we brainwashed? We're more than just brainwashed. We're molded like iron from the water and 🔥 making us a robot of society. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Xester on April 08, 2017, 11:35:41 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. It is the price for our longing towards development. When development enters the screen our life becomes more convenient and that convenience limits our thinking since almost everything is instant. That is why people are no longer thinking critically but becomes totally dependent to technology. People have become equipped with knowledge but they become idiots. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: xSkylarx on April 08, 2017, 02:19:01 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. It is of ignorance that we let ourselves be brainwashed. Brainwashing appear in a lot of forms that stray us from our principles, morals, righteousness, and etc. It is important to nurture ourselves from what is right and wrong; and educate ourselves so that we can't just be carried freely in the direction that the flow wants to take or to be. We have our own mind, heart, and will so we must use it and not let it rust and be wasted. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Yuuto on April 08, 2017, 02:46:33 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. I really like the way you have compared modern days with ancient Rome times, the only thing that citizens wanted was food and entertainment.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. As you said, we are perfect consumers. We live and die in a race for money, which is pretty much meaningless, the greed runs the world. Moreover, people have chosen to give up their own privacy and "freedom" in the name of "safety". A very good example is US, and patriot act. They can spy literally anyone without any special permissions, ask me why? Because people want to lose their freedom and privacy, for more surveillance, even more police and this fake feeling of being safe in your own country. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: d0flaming0 on April 08, 2017, 03:53:28 PM Be with yourself, do what makes you happy so you wont be full of regrets. Life is not about struggling to death to finish goals, sometimes you need to sit back and relax for a while.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: popcorn1 on April 08, 2017, 04:40:44 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. It is the price for our longing towards development. When development enters the screen our life becomes more convenient and that convenience limits our thinking since almost everything is instant. That is why people are no longer thinking critically but becomes totally dependent to technology. People have become equipped with knowledge but they become idiots. Yes like many on here. We are brain washed so the government can take public money away .. They sell public companies to the rich elite so they can use us as slaves .. Getting on a BUS cost 4p to go 1 stop in 1978 TODAY getting on a bus 1 stop £2.20 to go 1 stop.. So who ever say we are about consuming :D :D.. You will have to be a MILLIONAIRE just to live like we lived on the social security in the not so near future.. Council home will cost 1 million 20 years time ..some in London already do.. Has wages gone up to compensate for the rises ..ANSWER NO.. So we are even more of a slave than we was in 1970s.. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE LIKE THE USA.. No chance they don't give a hoot for there people.. In America no money DIE..Oh not unless your good at asking for donations.. ANY DONATIONS ..ANY DONATIONS.<Basically begging .. So it's ok to beg but no socialism what so ever ..Even though they get a pension < SOCIALISM.. See how the AMERICANS are brain washed .. The government as made the people hate SOCIALISM Hate socialism means LETS not give the people any of there TAXES back for new roads new homes schools.. No it's all about brain washing the people to rob our taxes.. And use us as slaves for the elite .. Remember the bus 4p now £2.20 1 stop.. :o :o.. IT'S NOT ABOUT CONSUMING ..Its about not being able to consume .. We got told by MAGGIE THATCHER <VOMIT..That if we privatised our public companies that the competition would drive prices down.. We got BRIAN WASHED ..The big companies buy all the little guys out and charge us what they want they charge us way over the odds.. No competition at all just big companies eating the little guy up.. And i will say the AMERICAN people are the worst brain washed people in the western nations.. The government robs the AMERICAN people like no other ..BRAINS WASHED YANKS.. They make them poor except the few and the poor end up doing this.. 3:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YfFCKy5BDA ^^^^ BRAINWASHED Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: digitalcoins on April 08, 2017, 05:11:17 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Wow, " fast car and sleep with plenty of women", so many people have fast cars and sleep with plenty of women these days? Well...as to women it s probbly difficult to judge, but definitely I see it from 1 in 10 to 1 in 100 fast cars among ordinary cars on the street. So it seems like not everybody having fast cars. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Kakumei on April 08, 2017, 05:34:36 PM We are being brainwashed every single day with large corporations pushing advertisments to us making us to wanna buy their stuffs. Also from the psychology point of view we dont exactly have too much power over it anyways.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Wolf2017 on April 08, 2017, 07:18:52 PM We are being brainwashed every single day with large corporations pushing advertisments to us making us to wanna buy their stuffs. Also from the psychology point of view we dont exactly have too much power over it anyways. It seems to me that if I don't want something as vexing for any advertising. People make their own choices. It is easy to blame my mistakes on others.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: popcorn1 on April 09, 2017, 02:07:26 AM They put less salt and sugar in a food product and charge us more < brainwashed
A bar of chocolate goes smaller they give us a cut of 2p on the bar and we think it's a deal < brainwashed Flavours in food products don't taste the same as many year ago .. DILUTION Of PRODUCTS to make more money..We are all brain washed in someway.. I will say some more than others though .BADECKER <He speaks to god brainwashed<parents to blame. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: omonuyak on April 09, 2017, 05:58:34 AM our generation has been brainwashed and I do believe the social media, redio and TV are the tools the elite are using against this generation. people are no longer thinking of ideology and destiny again like our father but now of women, porn, car and thing of this world.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Idrisu on April 09, 2017, 01:16:23 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. The elites and politicians has used the media especially the social media to brainwashing humanity. Our Academic system also do not help matters. The Educational materials teach us to work for people company and no dreams and thinking of having our own. Social media as tools to work of our mind by allowing sinful people to post worldly thing to distract people from using their mind for personal advancement.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: eXpl0sive on April 09, 2017, 01:30:59 PM Well, it didn’t just happen. It was designed.
Shortly after the World War 2, these guys were figuring out how to ramp up the [U.S.] economy. Retailing analyst Victor Lebow articulated the solution that has become the norm for the whole system. He said: “Our enormously productive economy . . . demands that we make consumption our way of life, that we convert the buying and use of goods into rituals, that we seek our spiritual satisfaction, our ego satisfaction, in consumption . . . we need things consumed, burned up, replaced and discarded at an ever-accelerating rate.” www.storyofstuff.com Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: GreenBits on April 09, 2017, 01:36:17 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. The elites and politicians has used the media especially the social media to brainwashing humanity. Our Academic system also do not help matters. The Educational materials teach us to work for people company and no dreams and thinking of having our own. Social media as tools to work of our mind by allowing sinful people to post worldly thing to distract people from using their mind for personal advancement.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Consumerism 101 On point. All corporate sponsored media is intended to deceive you in a small way. Be that buying a product or service, or voting for something; they only spent time and money crafting said message because they want something from you. Usually, your time, money, or both. The world is ruled by rhetoric. We are much less sensitive to it as humans now; we have distracted ourselves so long we forgot how to pay attention to our surroundings, stay aware. We have been too safe. And so, we have relinquished some of the drive to discover, to question. That has been replaced by consensus. If enough people say something is a way, then that's just gotta be the way it is, no? And all this, after communication technology advances to its pinnacle. Go figure. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Ronxawala on April 12, 2017, 09:06:55 AM We are being brainwashed every single day with large corporations pushing advertisments to us making us to wanna buy their stuffs. Also from the psychology point of view we dont exactly have too much power over it anyways. Yes, but many people learn to think on their own and decide what they really need to buy and what not. Children need to learn from the very childhood to think and develop their own thinking, so that advertising can not brainwash them. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Yanisumin on May 28, 2017, 10:49:47 AM We are being brainwashed every single day with large corporations pushing advertisments to us making us to wanna buy their stuffs. Also from the psychology point of view we dont exactly have too much power over it anyways. The sad truth is kids these days before they grow up is being molded like robot and being brainwashed through the process, and the dangerous part is that the people who are teaching the kids kniws that what they are teaching is right because that's what the majority say or do. We are not being brainwashed everyday, we are mailed in beliefs since we were young and it's up to us to escape. our generation has been brainwashed and I do believe the social media, redio and TV are the tools the elite are using against this generation. people are no longer thinking of ideology and destiny again like our father but now of women, porn, car and thing of this world. Carry on, carry on. Uuhhm I think if we want to hear about more details how brainwashed we are, there is a song that best describe this: What's wrong with the world, mama People livin' like they ain't got no mamas I think the whole world addicted to the drama Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism But we still got terrorists here livin' In the USA, the big CIA The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK But if you only have love for your own race Then you only leave space to discriminate And to discriminate only generates hate And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah Madness is what you demonstrate And that's exactly how anger works and operates Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight Take control of your mind and meditate Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all It just ain't the same, old ways have changed New days are strange, is the world insane? If love and peace are so strong Why are there pieces of love that don't belong? Nations droppin' bombs Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin' in Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug If you never know truth then you never know love Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know) I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder Most of us only care about money makin' Selfishness got us followin' the wrong direction Wrong information always shown by the media Negative images is the main criteria Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity Whatever happened to the fairness and equality Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under Gotta keep my faith alive 'til love is found Now ask yourself Where is the love? Where is the love? Where is the love? Where is the love? Father, Father, Father, help us Send some guidance from above 'Cause people got me, got me questionin' Where is the love? Sing with me y'all: One world, one world (We only got) One world, one world (That's all we got) One world, one world And something's wrong with it (Yeah) Something's wrong with it (Yeah) Something's wrong with the wo-wo-world, yeah We only got (One world, one world) That's all we got (One world, one world) Performed by : Black Eyed Peas ( where is the love ) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: minizi99 on May 28, 2017, 12:45:24 PM We are being brainwashed every single day with large corporations pushing advertisments to us making us to wanna buy their stuffs. Also from the psychology point of view we dont exactly have too much power over it anyways. Yes, but many people learn to think on their own and decide what they really need to buy and what not. Children need to learn from the very childhood to think and develop their own thinking, so that advertising can not brainwash them. Man always lives in society, therefore he always follows the rules of this society. Brainwashing can be called everything - and study in school and vostipatnie and patriotism. Man will always live as society tells him Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: aggarwal233 on May 28, 2017, 01:20:30 PM This generation is more and more educated with social media platform
but yet we are brainwashed with the facts Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: slaz26 on May 28, 2017, 02:22:51 PM This generation is more and more educated with social media platform but yet we are brainwashed with the facts Special services are brainwashed and run by us. They create the right mood in society through TV, radio, music and social networks. And we do not even suspect how we are run Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: joebrook on May 28, 2017, 07:39:09 PM In this age, brainwashing is done via television advertisement, they market their products and tell you exactly what you need and convince you to buy them.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Deluzi on May 28, 2017, 07:48:15 PM I have a goal, my ultimate goal is to return myself back to Godhead, but consider this, we are not brainwashed, if you want to be brainwashed you must go to church, temple,... where they praise the allmighty, and with that proces you wash your brains, becasue we have so dirty brains, that we got from over deceades, and with serving God we get brainwahsed.
It's tough out there. Braceurselves Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: frischtot on May 28, 2017, 07:57:22 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Some people fought and gave their life for freedom. The majority were as brainless sheep as today's people if not even more, and you can't blame them for that. Life in the past was harsh. It was hard enough just to survive and get by, let alone have some larger than life cause. Nowadays however it's much easier to have a normal acceptable life, and what we do with that? We all go after some fake cause like animal rights or feminism. Worthy causes also are becoming simply trends among young people and thus losing their value. We're observing the death of ideals. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: dippididodaday on May 28, 2017, 09:14:21 PM If life is like a brain, I'm totally being washed. The only goals in this life that really matter are twofold and I have no say in the matter at all - in fact, I'm pulled in (or pushed out) and pushed out (or pulled in) without my consent. I live and I die. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: crwth on May 29, 2017, 08:09:48 AM I couldn't agree with you more, yet I don't think "brainwashed" is the correct term to use. Perhaps, "too caught up" with technology? We're too curious. We're all just too adventurous.. eventually, it'll burn out.The trend will fade. Like how you loved your favorite shirt, and now it's all used up and ready for disposable. Like how we all responded to the invention of cell phones, and how you've replaced your phone like 3 to 4 times already. The worst part about it, we say it doesn't change us, but it does. We're just telling ourselves that it doesn't. Lying to ourselves to feel better. We're too caught up. We're too full of it
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ivanpoldark on May 29, 2017, 11:15:36 AM Quote No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. It is human nature aim for better life. Have simple job, a lot of free time, have a lovely kind wife or husband. I also do not like the society of consumption, but this model of society creates most of the job, makes economy stronger, and if you want to think with your mind and opinion, just read the bible, or just another smart book. We do not have slavery who would not say something. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: SingAlong on May 29, 2017, 11:54:28 AM No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. If you have heard about the Facebook founder's speech at Harvard, it is all about purpose and creating a purpose which is a duty of everyone.There are still some people who have not gone together with this nonsensical trend that has been spreading like a contagious diseases and it really is very irritating and an eyesore having this kind of people who are deluded by this. These some people that I am talking about will knock some sense to other people and influence them especially now that the knowledge and information are just in their finger tips. So each one of us should know and not be swayed by others easily and know what is right and should do. Educate yourself and stop being ignorant. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Xester on May 29, 2017, 12:01:59 PM In this age, brainwashing is done via television advertisement, they market their products and tell you exactly what you need and convince you to buy them. I do not believe that we are brainwashed but instead we are forced to live how the society tells us to otherwise we cannot survive. Instead of being brainwashed I call it adaptation to the environment, learning to be fit and survive the environment that we live in. But I hope we can get our of this system but I guess this is already inescapable but as long as our minds are open we cannot be corrupted by the immorality and unfair trade in the world around us. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: iram3130 on May 29, 2017, 03:35:28 PM The thing is people don't dream big now and they think that getting a big dream is impossible and that's a misconception. So people just dream small now and try to achieve that, they'll just take lifetime to achieve that. So in other terms people are less competitive and more concentrated towards numbers.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: malikusama on May 29, 2017, 09:27:08 PM I think number of people with goals and ideas are declining day by day, this may be because of the technology ease. Technology is making the life easy as well as lazy.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 30, 2017, 02:36:08 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. This sounds more like personal crisis to me, than observation of the world. Did you thought about changing the company you currectly spend time with? It doesnt have to be church, if you are materialistic unbeliever, something as simple as finding an actual hobby (I am not counting bitcoin, we do that for profit) will do the trick. Others honor both nature and their ancestors by starting a family. Yet different folk invest in development of science for betterment of everybody. I conserve history (and my physique) by learning ancient art of fencing for example. We were given gift of life and free will to use precious time we have however we see fit. You are not getting second chance, so turn off your tv and find your purpose. No illuminati will stop you, I promise. I think number of people with goals and ideas are declining day by day, this may be because of the technology ease. Technology is making the life easy as well as lazy. That merely means, that you have more choices. If you cant use them to your and your loved ones benefit, guess, who is to blame for that? Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: PeterTheGrape on May 30, 2017, 03:42:19 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Society creates a cocoon that makes people lead small lives. The solution will only come when there is a new frontier, a wilderness outside where people have gone i.e., outer space. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/60/62/8e/60628e20088e2a6b344eb9f4e9373866.jpg Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: SovPara on June 02, 2017, 05:48:45 AM People in USA are utterly brainwashed. Propaganda by mainstream media.
Different friends tell me "their" opinions but their words, ideas, conclusions, tone of voice are all IDENTICAL. This doesn't happen without heavy conditioning. Worst of all most aren't even aware of it. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: unusualfacts30 on June 02, 2017, 12:22:45 PM Remember the time when you were a kid and used to cry for small toys? Now you're an adult who wants big toys.
same psychology tricks are used on kids and adults to keep them hooked. If you don't have an insecurity one will be assigned to you. Most TV shows and Movies are filled with extremely low IQ content because they want to keep you dumb. Dumb people make great consumers. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Be_Happy on June 02, 2017, 12:28:50 PM Just get a man who does not have a goal, he is just unrealized matter. Since childhood, for many, everything is decided by parents or society, and they do not even think about how you can independently think and manage your life. Now there are very few people who do something consciously and develop in all aspects of life. While a person is not ready to learn how to think independently, it is useless to talk about it.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: lisa255 on June 02, 2017, 02:12:45 PM Remember the time when you were a kid and used to cry for small toys? Now you're an adult who wants big toys. same psychology tricks are used on kids and adults to keep them hooked. If you don't have an insecurity one will be assigned to you. Most TV shows and Movies are filled with extremely low IQ content because they want to keep you dumb. Dumb people make great consumers. I agree with you. Present shows are designed for low intelligence. Unfortunately, information and intellectual television programs are not available now. Even just advertising affects our subconscious mind Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Lieldoryn on June 02, 2017, 05:05:42 PM Remember the time when you were a kid and used to cry for small toys? Now you're an adult who wants big toys. Now a lot of offers for every taste. No one's forcing you to watch cheesy movies? If there is no demand then these movies will not be removed. I guess stupidity is the trend of today's time. The herd is always easier to manage than intellectuals. Perhaps for this reason, we see these election results in America.same psychology tricks are used on kids and adults to keep them hooked. If you don't have an insecurity one will be assigned to you. Most TV shows and Movies are filled with extremely low IQ content because they want to keep you dumb. Dumb people make great consumers. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 02, 2017, 05:17:13 PM Remember the time when you were a kid and used to cry for small toys? Now you're an adult who wants big toys. same psychology tricks are used on kids and adults to keep them hooked. If you don't have an insecurity one will be assigned to you. Most TV shows and Movies are filled with extremely low IQ content because they want to keep you dumb. Dumb people make great consumers. It's been studied for thousands of years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taṇhā https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_Truths Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MisO69 on June 02, 2017, 05:36:56 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Yeah we're brainwashed. Anyone saying were not is just in denial. With a washing machine (TV) in everyone's house its pretty easy to do. Social engineering has been a thing for a very very long time. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Eternu on June 03, 2017, 02:58:31 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Yeah we're brainwashed. Anyone saying were not is just in denial. With a washing machine (TV) in everyone's house its pretty easy to do. Social engineering has been a thing for a very very long time. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Xester on June 03, 2017, 03:20:34 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Yeah we're brainwashed. Anyone saying were not is just in denial. With a washing machine (TV) in everyone's house its pretty easy to do. Social engineering has been a thing for a very very long time. Totally agree with you. We are still in control with ourselves. It is up to you if you want to be controlled by earthly matters like latest gadgets, expensive shoes, branded bags, jewelries, and cars. If you can afford all of these, and still being a good person in your community it is okay. Some maybe brainwashed if they are buyig things beyond their means just to be called "in". Just to be accepted or approved by today's trend. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: maku on June 03, 2017, 03:54:53 PM We all need to realize brilliance of this quote: "We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like."
Our social behaviour implies communal relationships - humans are nothing more than smart herring animals. We are not brainwashed - we are connected and because we follow others. The problem is, we usually don't need guidance. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ridery99 on June 04, 2017, 12:13:14 PM The Truth About Popular Culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLUIXWnrC0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLUIXWnrC0) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: matchi2011 on June 07, 2017, 08:50:24 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Times have changed hard. Back then, people know how it was to be oppressed, to have nothing and they know how to give importance to simple basic things. It's a whole lot different now with most of us growing up in peaceful society without having to worry about our lives. We tend to focus more on things that doesn't really matter if you look at the big picture. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: darklus123 on June 07, 2017, 10:21:48 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Because i think people now are getting more stressed out and most of them realizes that life is short so make the most out of it. I have a lot of goals of course but it doesnt mean that i would now prefer to keep everything and even work harder instead i somehow enjoy the things from my hard earned money Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Joshua101101 on June 07, 2017, 10:30:46 AM Unfortunately now a lot of people do not want to think for themselves what they really need and what does not. Most are simply consumers, because they are easier when they decide for them.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: SimmonenY on June 07, 2017, 02:43:33 PM Unfortunately, era of consumerism is upon us. I have some friends who have no goals, no ambitions. They don't save money because they have nothing to save for (except when they want to buy a new iphone or smth useless). on the other hand they want to travel, see places, get a better job, have a family but still can find a thousand reasons why they can't do all that. This is sad and this is half of young people who I know.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 07, 2017, 03:09:28 PM Unfortunately, era of consumerism is upon us. I have some friends who have no goals, no ambitions. They don't save money because they have nothing to save for (except when they want to buy a new iphone or smth useless). on the other hand they want to travel, see places, get a better job, have a family but still can find a thousand reasons why they can't do all that. This is sad and this is half of young people who I know. What makes them be like that? Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 2econd on June 09, 2017, 08:48:17 AM Yes we are brainwashed, and entertained to death like Roger Waters sings.
But we're all brainwashed since day one, 300 years ago as well, go read some Bourdieu. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: kpcian on June 09, 2017, 05:59:57 PM Yeah.. Many of us are totally brainwashed...
We never want to discover what we should do, we are going to be satisfied what we have, simply in the economic sector, we can't raise our voices against any anti consumer steps, day by day it's getting tougher for us but we keep going and put up everything...we are just behaving like a cowardly manner.. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: cryptogeek101 on June 09, 2017, 06:50:09 PM We have to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery.We need to have financial independence to do that. That's why I am a fan of decentralization of currency which bitcoin is my base point. We have been brainwashed, that's true but we need to have a change of view.We need money that's not control by government agency.We have been brainwashed to think that we need hard labour to get to the top.That's is not true. The whole concept is funny to think about. The blockchain technology has try to give us a clear vision of change.The mind needs a re-engineering process.We are gods!
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: scribbles on June 10, 2017, 12:21:23 PM I want to answer this question but I can not because I can't think for myself :P
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Eternu on June 11, 2017, 03:32:12 PM Yeah.. Many of us are totally brainwashed... You are wrong on so many things. First of all it is all up to you, what you want to do or want to buy. No one can tell you to buy something you do not want, free will mate. But if you are person who buy and want things because other people want them, than you should put a finger on your head and ask your self, who you are, do you have a personality at all? And you do not need to raise voice against anything, just simple do not buy it, that is all you need to do. Everything is your choice, and your alone.We never want to discover what we should do, we are going to be satisfied what we have, simply in the economic sector, we can't raise our voices against any anti consumer steps, day by day it's getting tougher for us but we keep going and put up everything...we are just behaving like a cowardly manner.. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: DZU1410 on June 11, 2017, 03:47:44 PM Yeah.. Many of us are totally brainwashed... You are wrong on so many things. First of all it is all up to you, what you want to do or want to buy. No one can tell you to buy something you do not want, free will mate. But if you are person who buy and want things because other people want them, than you should put a finger on your head and ask your self, who you are, do you have a personality at all? And you do not need to raise voice against anything, just simple do not buy it, that is all you need to do. Everything is your choice, and your alone.We never want to discover what we should do, we are going to be satisfied what we have, simply in the economic sector, we can't raise our voices against any anti consumer steps, day by day it's getting tougher for us but we keep going and put up everything...we are just behaving like a cowardly manner.. You very accurately said. Why should we cry that we are not like a crowd? A free and reasonable person does not need to prove anything. He lives as he sees fit. We choose our way every day and this is only our choice Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: hyunee on July 21, 2017, 06:43:07 AM I think all of us have goals in each and everyone's life. Surviving is one of the goals right? We should survive in every crisis in our life. Goal can be a short term or longer term.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Xester on July 21, 2017, 07:02:51 AM I think all of us have goals in each and everyone's life. Surviving is one of the goals right? We should survive in every crisis in our life. Goal can be a short term or longer term. Definitely. Everyone have goals and we do it even on everyday basis like deciding on what to do or to eat. Then after deciding to plan what to do or eat for the next couple of days, we have a plan. So it is not correct to say that we do not have goals anymore. Maybe goals that is for a long term like you are really planning for the future. But still many people still do have that and most probably those persons were the one who succeeds the most. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: atago on July 21, 2017, 08:46:41 AM Of course we are, always have been and always will be brainwashed. Growing up u could be made believe everything about the world.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: pineapplecharm1 on July 21, 2017, 08:54:31 AM yes, this is "freedom" now. it is sad but we are brainwashed.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Deathtiny on July 21, 2017, 09:06:25 AM media.. social media also, is the best brain washing tool.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: crwth on July 21, 2017, 09:18:17 AM media.. social media also, is the best brain washing tool. Not just the brain washing tool, it's with the social media standards and being aware of others and being insecure with it. Do not be afraid of the things that can come because it's only you who can control what you see and what you intake, don't let others fool you too. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: xingzhankwe on July 21, 2017, 09:41:39 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. People no longer need to fight for their basic freedoms, at least in most democracies. It just that consumerism is showing some of its unattractive aspects. One is "decision paralysis". "Oh all those bags, I want them all but can only buy one. But there's so many of them,". Then after that comes "buyer's remorse". "Could I have been more attractive to him had I used that rather than this?". Now if you think this only applies to merchandise, you're wrong. How many of you has known someone who can't decide on which of their various interests to follow, or have a friend who was always pining for "the one that got away,". No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. sounds like good goal to me :PSounds like a declining society ;) Well, we live in a society where money is important. With wages barely rising, getting more bang for your bucks is an achievement in itself. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: joebrook on July 21, 2017, 12:15:43 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Brainwashing is definitely at work and people use the media and social media as a means to carry out these things, we are living in an era where we believe that buying of things makes us happy, Advertisement is the medium where brainwashing is carried out, They tell what we need and we end up buying them, who on earth would someone buy a new Iphone every single year.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: olubams on July 21, 2017, 12:54:36 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Seeing this thread now, I won't be able to agree that we are not more free the fight for more freedom is still very much alive but the approach is what changes as the era of violence has gone. What we have now is to press further and change the situation of things via our mobile. Several government positions have been altered through Twitter, online petitions, signing of letters, Facebook outlash, elections counted on social media and the avenue to do that without any threat of arrest is freedom on it's own which is not necessarily have to be by protest and processions. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Slow death on July 21, 2017, 02:14:56 PM media.. social media also, is the best brain washing tool. I think you meant religion does brainwash people. I just see religion as the biggest brainwashing promoter. Look at the Christians on Sundays, all Christians go to church on Sundays Read those books (the books call themselves WAKE) weirdos that the witnesses of joeva offer, when you read those books (wake) that the witnesses of jeova offer, you change, those books make you brainwash like abiblia and the Qur'an of the Muslims Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: salinizm on July 21, 2017, 02:25:12 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Unfortunately, I cannot agree with your ideas. Everyone has goals but these goals are unlike our ancestors. We want to have more power of materials. We can say this one is a goal but nobody can say this goal is very useful for humanity. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: irsada on July 21, 2017, 02:27:11 PM Prayer is proven to overcome the various problems and turmoil that often occur in this life. With so many bedroes, we will have 'additional ammunition' in addition to physical effort. Prayer provides an orientation or purpose for our lives. That is, people who want to pray means he knows for sure with 'purpose of life' (the purpose of life is packed with 2 things, namely business and prayer). Prayer also makes us have a backrest.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: riseup23 on July 21, 2017, 02:34:45 PM yes we are brainwash because of many people around us who can be start what we doing about other plans to do.. and then im brainwash of the politics here in country they are corrupt people but not at all are curropt.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: riseup23 on July 21, 2017, 02:44:10 PM yes we are brainwash because of many people around us who can be start what we doing about other plans to do.. and then im brainwash of the politics here in country they are corrupt people but not at all are corrupt.. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Boov on July 21, 2017, 03:18:06 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I dont think brainwash is the term. We are conditioned more likely. We were conditioned to desire for an easy life. And with that, instant of everything becomes a neccessity. Instant food, instant info, instant products, instant social self acceptance.. Etc. People forget the value of process and waiting together with the lessons and quality morals it produce.therefore, the virtues and morales are lowered which leads to less value-founded and goal oriented human beings. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 05:47:51 PM In a sense I'm not sure what society you're talking about specifically, but in my society, the United States, I think we've been being brainwashed for a long time, and still are. We've just never been encouraged to think critically about things. We're always told/taught what to think, rather than how to think, which I consider tantamount to brainwashing
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 05:48:59 PM secondly, I recognize that the above may sound dramatic because I'm calling it "brainwashing", but I concede that it is fairly mild brainwashing compared to what has gone on in the past or what still goes on in other parts of the world. But it's simply a fact that there is still some brainwashing that goes on in modern Western society, and it continues unchecked because we are all accustomed to it and it is so deeply fixed into our society that we never even notice it. But the fact that we do and believe things based on social conditioning rather than critical thought is a positive indication of brainwashing that still takes place in society.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 05:49:53 PM thirdly, Everything is a brainwash, From the moment you start school is the moment "they" start re-programming you. They fill your head with restrictions saying "you can't do this". They teach you if you are "bad" or "disobedient" to "their" system you will be punished. And if your follow the system you will be rewarded. They are re-programming your way of thinking and restricting our minds. We are constantly being told what we can and can't do which leads to self-doubt. We as humans have the capability to access our entire minds, but because of the mass brainwashing from the media. Government, schools etc we have been taught to doubt our own abilities. The system is almost impossible to escape because we are trapped by the poisons they are constantly spraying in the sky, in our food, the poison they spread through the media and so called "education".
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 05:52:51 PM The term “brainwashing” comes from the time of the Korean War, when Americans speculated about the thought reform regime in communist China, and later the techniques used on the American POWs in Korea who went on to criticize the war, and even in a few cases to renounce the US and refuse to come home after the war was over. It’s such an evocative term that it caught on almost immediately as a way to describe someone’s views as rote, robotic, or even unthinkable.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: iluvpie60 on July 21, 2017, 07:07:32 PM I think I got out of the brainwashing for the most part.
I cannot stand being unproductive or not helpful. Imake posts on steemit a lot and make some side money and make a little bit here too. It really helps me with my goal of paying off the massive student loan Ihad to take with the huge interest. Unfortunately Ihave one of those majors that requires going to college, but I am paying it off, saving for a house and all that adulty adulting adult stoof :) Ithink the key is using adblocker, I have 0 idea of most of the brainwashing hehe Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: PrayForkts on July 21, 2017, 07:16:01 PM You mean like people with Apple products? I just see zombies that want to buy them without knowing they can get something better for the same price.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: killgald on July 21, 2017, 07:27:19 PM The publicity in the tv is a brainwash, that is studied for months to produced pleasure to those who wacht it to buy a product, using movie stars or other celebrity.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: trusturrazor62 on July 21, 2017, 07:33:14 PM We are not sensible with our world, that's what is happening right now. We don't give a damn about anything...
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: iapple571 on July 21, 2017, 11:16:08 PM Yes, media and governors have created a stupid society.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: The_prodigy on July 22, 2017, 10:34:14 AM Yes, media and governors have created a stupid society. Of course in a way we are. With media showing us i formation that we can easily believe without getting our own research or the government not shedding the whole truth to keep the public from collapsing and panikkinng Then in a way we are. We have conditioned mindsets on who or what we conceived are true deending on the severity of the information available. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: gabmen on July 22, 2017, 01:24:24 PM Yes, media and governors have created a stupid society. Of course in a way we are. With media showing us i formation that we can easily believe without getting our own research or the government not shedding the whole truth to keep the public from collapsing and panikkinng Then in a way we are. We have conditioned mindsets on who or what we conceived are true deending on the severity of the information available. Right. Most of us are easily swayed by what mainstream media feeds us. With us believing and making judgements based on that, i can also say that we are brainwashed a lot of times. Media is a very powerful institution that can topple even governments and we must be vigilant also in determining if what we see and hear are actual facts or fake Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Daniel91 on July 22, 2017, 01:44:55 PM Yes, we are all brainwashed every day by media, politicians, scientists etc.
There is so much information and news in the world today that average person don't have time to analyze and check all this facts, and to find out what is true and what is false. We have no choice but to trust others. Of course, media and politicians understand it very well and they are trying to influence us, shape our understanding and thinking in accordance with their wishes and needs. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: lovesybitz on July 22, 2017, 04:45:04 PM Money is the only goal in this life. Majority of the people around the world, their goals in life was to Earn money due to with it they can get whatever they want. But still there are some that their priority is not money, and honestly many of the community are being brainwashed because of money.Living a healthy life is the second. You can nearly buy everything with money, even health. (unless you aren't fucked up beyond repair) Are we brainwashed? Damn, yes. We are like little rats, working our asses off everyday for dollars. Watch "American Psycho" if you haven't watch yet and see how crazy we can get for money. The dude(Bale) who plays Patrick has a great amount of money and can buy everything yet he is not happy at all. Worse yet, he doesn't have a "real" friend. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: yakushev on July 22, 2017, 06:34:15 PM We are daily brainwashed. And get a dose of it from different sources. In general, we are being pressured by the media. Especially dangerous in this regard is the TV
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: flag39 on July 22, 2017, 07:24:42 PM You say “In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom”.
How far back, because in one year 2018, you will experience human activity equal to twenty years 1970 1990, and if back further, the disproportion will dramatically increase. For most of the people the question won't be if they are free or not. With technological advancements, less and less people will engage in a physical work and will have time to use their brains. The questions is, how will people use their time, once basic instincts are fulfilled by machines or robots? Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: earthpocket on July 22, 2017, 08:12:05 PM It's difficult, many old people are as young. It's all about having your own opinion and think about things, but yes.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: freeyourmind on July 23, 2017, 06:30:47 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. The American dream. Sure, many do get sucked into the consumerism and materialism. But I'm not sure if there are any less goals now than before. Technology is being innovated right now faster than ever before, so ideas are definitely not slowing down in aggregate. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: leviathon on July 23, 2017, 08:07:35 AM I dont know if we are brainwashed or not but the smart phones and other electronic devices are making our brains ill and release dopamine which makes us wanna do more and also its the porn which corrupts our mind and makes us lazy and Dopamine plays a major role in the brain system that is responsible for reward-driven learning.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: bhabygrim on July 23, 2017, 02:33:38 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I somehow agree with you're idea. I think this is the outcome of having a lot of freedom. People are free whatever they want to do. We became free to share our ideas, which means either we care or not it's really up to us. Whether we have plans or if we want to make the society a better place is up to us. The bad thing is most people won't even care. I think this things came up to my mind when I read this. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: cigaLeider on July 23, 2017, 02:53:58 PM No Doubt!! Since we born, we are bombed by info to be slaves of their interests.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: JefLiber on July 23, 2017, 04:43:42 PM No Doubt!! Since we born, we are bombed by info to be slaves of their interests. I completely agree with you, because if we look at how politicians use us, how their electorate, or even how information or other factors influence us from television and other media, we are no more than a herd of rams, At its discretion.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: memephistopheles on July 23, 2017, 05:15:15 PM people use the media and social media brain washes everybody!
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 2pal34u on July 23, 2017, 05:27:51 PM consumerism is a tool for brain washing. yes we are.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: paulonardy on July 23, 2017, 05:28:15 PM politics are brain washing people
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: KingCanuck5 on July 23, 2017, 05:28:53 PM corporations pushing advertisments to us is a brainwashing activity
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Pisrem29 on July 23, 2017, 07:50:16 PM All living human in this world is, the difference is that one are more than others.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Malsetid on July 25, 2017, 09:42:15 AM No Doubt!! Since we born, we are bombed by info to be slaves of their interests. I completely agree with you, because if we look at how politicians use us, how their electorate, or even how information or other factors influence us from television and other media, we are no more than a herd of rams, At its discretion.We always have a choice. Though with everything that's broadcasted is probably manipulated by a few powerful people, the decision to be swayed is always with us. If we choose to be brainwashed then we will be. Look for information yourself. Go beyond what mainstream.media is telling you. Go outside. There's always another side of the news and stories that we hear eveyday Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: InsiderOfCrypto on July 25, 2017, 09:50:57 AM but you always can re-brainwash yourself - You can HAVE DO or BE anything you want
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: matuson on July 25, 2017, 09:56:32 AM The media can only brainwash stupid people. I never referred to in the media as to the truth you want to believe perfectly. For me it's just it opinion. There are many media and opinions are often radically opposed. A smart man always chooses the right, but a fool becomes a zombie.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: cigaLeider on July 25, 2017, 11:04:55 AM No Doubt!! Since we born, we are bombed by info to be slaves of their interests. I completely agree with you, because if we look at how politicians use us, how their electorate, or even how information or other factors influence us from television and other media, we are no more than a herd of rams, At its discretion.We always have a choice. Though with everything that's broadcasted is probably manipulated by a few powerful people, the decision to be swayed is always with us. If we choose to be brainwashed then we will be. Look for information yourself. Go beyond what mainstream.media is telling you. Go outside. There's always another side of the news and stories that we hear eveyday Indeed!! IMHO you have a choice when you know how the system works. When you are a child theres no filter and you swallow everything unconsciously because you know nothing about this "conspiracy". It seems that not, but kids are the perfect target to build their awareness as their wish. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: BADecker on July 25, 2017, 06:04:27 PM It's because of the laundry detergents. All those laundry detergents - Tide, Gain, All, even Foca - are week. Therefore our brains don't become clean when they are washed. So, we walk around with the same old soiled thoughts.
;D Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: VadikZimnyayaRezina on July 25, 2017, 09:57:36 PM No Doubt!! Since we born, we are bombed by info to be slaves of their interests. I completely agree with you, because if we look at how politicians use us, how their electorate, or even how information or other factors influence us from television and other media, we are no more than a herd of rams, At its discretion.We always have a choice. Though with everything that's broadcasted is probably manipulated by a few powerful people, the decision to be swayed is always with us. If we choose to be brainwashed then we will be. Look for information yourself. Go beyond what mainstream.media is telling you. Go outside. There's always another side of the news and stories that we hear eveyday Indeed!! IMHO you have a choice when you know how the system works. When you are a child theres no filter and you swallow everything unconsciously because you know nothing about this "conspiracy". It seems that not, but kids are the perfect target to build their awareness as their wish. The consciousness of any person will depend on the society in which he grew up and was brought up. He can not be free from any attitudes. All this can be called a brainwashing, but I'm not sure that this is correct. After all, there is something good in the society in which we grew up Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: oberotek on July 26, 2017, 11:50:35 AM Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: haxllega on July 26, 2017, 04:23:26 PM Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: AntiMasque0 on July 26, 2017, 08:20:06 PM Yes we are indeed brainwashed. It started with the television, invented by the CIA as a means of mass-influence. Well, then most of the world are just stupid people that would be better if they were dead. It's sad how just a few really care about this. We are but a mere number but who cares? It's really just a blue pill-red pill kinda thing. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Katashi on July 27, 2017, 03:45:31 AM I believe this is really happening but if you come to think of it, this is where the real you will came up. are you gonna be a dead fish that goes with the river flows, or you will be swimming against the current just to arrive or achieve what do really want in life.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: EdfuJihad on July 31, 2017, 11:32:06 AM Actually, we are unconsciously controlled and manipulated by the things offered to us and if it continues, we're slowly getting conquered. I believe in the fact that still, people should have this goal and vision for us not easily swayed by many things. To have a straight path as we continue to live our life and for our future as well for the progress of the country.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Coffee135 on July 31, 2017, 11:48:34 AM It's because of the laundry detergents. All those laundry detergents - Tide, Gain, All, even Foca - are week. Therefore our brains don't become clean when they are washed. So, we walk around with the same old soiled thoughts. If you stop washing powders then you will live not only dirty thoughts, but dirty Laundry and body. Detergents made for more people than your God. Remember how it was before the epidemic when people thought like you and was hoping for the help of God. You're not a stranger from the past?;D Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Varyg on August 04, 2017, 10:36:39 PM Yes we are brainwashed, and entertained to death like Roger Waters sings.
But we're all brainwashed since day one, 300 years ago as well, go read some Bourdieu. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Senkuli on August 14, 2017, 03:46:33 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Perhaps we have been brainwashed by worldly life, we have a tendency to do things that are shown by the electronic media, the internet, even our lives, so that we forget our social life, our spiritual needs.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. A lot of beautiful things, a fancy show on television or the internet, which we unknowingly change our mindset as well as our lives like that. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: QueenOfCrypto on September 18, 2017, 12:09:46 AM Yes you are :)
But I guess that someone who already puts himself this question is back on the path of reality :) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Tsuloid on September 18, 2017, 02:04:49 AM The problem is not in people or in society in general, if we accept anything as normal for this time, we will lose moral values, which belong to each individual, no one can remove them, belong and strengthen each person and the society.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tsinelas on September 18, 2017, 04:36:14 AM Saving money for a nice product can be a goal :) Yes. We believe and react base on those people we believe in. Like for example, the way we dress. If those around you dress in a formal attire, we tend to wear the same attire. why? because we influenced by those around us, and that influence brainwashed us. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MidKnight on September 30, 2017, 01:38:16 AM It's really hard to choose the things that you really like. In this life, you need to choose what most people do and that is what call "normal" in their own definition. You know, normal things like what they see in tv and cinema that they imitate.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: zaynxx on September 30, 2017, 07:35:29 AM The society dissapoints me the most is that. We collectively thought that Steve Jobs is a great man even though we knew he made billions of the back of children or maybe it is that it feels that all our heroes are counterfeit. The world itself is just one big hoax. Spamming with our running commentary of masquerading as insight, our social media faking as intimacy. I'm not saying anything new. We all know why we do this not because Hunger Games books makes us happy but because we wanna be sedated. Because it's painful not to pretend, because we're cowards.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Daniel91 on September 30, 2017, 03:37:47 PM The problem is not in people or in society in general, if we accept anything as normal for this time, we will lose moral values, which belong to each individual, no one can remove them, belong and strengthen each person and the society. In my opinion problem is in people or society. The source of human morality comes from the creator, God, not from people. God gave us absolute moral values in order to help us but we separated from God and lost our true identity. We are brainwashed because of the influence of society and other people. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: SugoiSenpai on November 10, 2017, 12:09:48 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are indeed brainwashed by our "new society" which is now filled with expedient forms of technology. We are all occupied by the use of the advantageous technology that helps us towards a convenient life but also destroys our old and traditional paths. It started when news just started and people deciding that it is good Idea to spread untrue stories (gossip) about certain stuff.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: CryptoDens on November 11, 2017, 06:50:27 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Many aspect can affect these, most of people desperate because of low earning in economics, low demand supply cause from low economics. From last years many developed countries dump from low economic. From the top goverment till civilization has far away gap in earning economics. If morals, ideology, no ideas and principles from our enviroment. Freedom still we can fight for it. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Moana on November 11, 2017, 11:55:35 AM It is worse than that. We have been brainwashed to believe that having been brainwashed if normal, or even perhaps cool. That's definitive.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: w33man on November 11, 2017, 02:26:58 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Actually, this is quite true. I see this as well on kids. Kids today are focused on games and social media that they are forgettingn the most important things in life, like cherishing the moment. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MRX- on November 11, 2017, 04:52:50 PM It may be quite "fun" to think of it as "brainwashing", but what if it was just something that happened, not intentionally done but it happened then it was seen as an opportunity and was used?
An inevitable thing just happened, technology is the greatest "purpose" for us humans, it's what most of us exhaust their energy for. It's aimed for continuous development, and everytime, it does get better, and will eventually be better than us humans, While we seek for the greatest technolgy, we are bound to destroy ourselves, the "brainwashing" thingy would've not been possible without the immense technological breakthroughs of humanity. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Daniel91 on November 11, 2017, 04:58:38 PM Yes, every day.
We are brainwashed by media, politicians, journalists, religion etc. People are bombarded with too much information and they can't understand any more what is truth and what is lie. For the most people it has become more comfortable to simply believe to the authorities, from the religion, state, media than to do own research and find out what is real truth. It's sad reality. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Maurice Strong on November 11, 2017, 07:09:34 PM THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.
~Edward Bernays, Propaganda, 1928 Are we brainwashed? Yes, the masses are brainwashed. This is in accordance with behavioral engineering, courtesy of the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations and its countless branches throughout the world. The Black Venetian Nobility (aka, Fondi, or European royalty) control Tavistock and the Bank for International Settlements. This is your true government. All other governments are puppets of this one. More importantly, the Fondi are Luciferian (what high-level Freemasons practice), which means they actively engage in demon worship to fulfill their goals. They sacrifice babies in the womb, via organized and preplanned abortion, to greatly enhance the sacrificial offerings they make to demons. This ensures their ongoing success. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Imman Mariano on November 11, 2017, 08:07:32 PM no were not getting brainwashed were just lazy and we just want an easy life . the fact is we dont explore we just think our self save in this situation . thats why people have no goals it depends on people how to role in our life life is so beautiful if we use this in good . lifee is not good if we used it in bad ideas .
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: XXOUPO on November 11, 2017, 09:27:45 PM Every day we are brainwashed with TV, radio and the Internet. I think that our behavior often depends on what we are trying to inspire
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: yanesna3 on November 12, 2017, 11:57:48 AM I agree, there is such a problem, especially vulnerable in this issue, young people, who do little, but receive everything from their parents for granted.
Although many countries still have ideological people, there are wars and attempts to achieve something. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Jarx on November 13, 2017, 10:54:49 AM I totally agree. marketing and the sales market skillfully vparivayut us things and services. they prove that it is all necessary and we readily believe them :(
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: cr_liev on November 13, 2017, 07:21:43 PM In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom Is this the point of life for you? Fighting and giving your life in vain? I'm sorry people who surround you are empty. My close friends all have dreams to live peacefuly, develop themselves and travel. And it doesn't depend on brainwashing or something, it depends on a person him/herself Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: arnobs007 on November 18, 2017, 01:25:31 PM Actually the main reason is excessive use of technology made us aimless. We're becoming robot day by day and i think this technologies are washing our brain day by day.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Jarx on November 22, 2017, 09:17:54 AM I agree, there is such a problem, especially vulnerable in this issue, young people, who do little, but receive everything from their parents for granted. Although many countries still have ideological people, there are wars and attempts to achieve something. I'm totally agree with you, you're telling right things. I see a lot of young people who hasn't their own thoughts but only the ones that is PRed by mass media and society. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Anco_Marzio on November 22, 2017, 09:27:39 AM Please note that we are facing a paradox: we can't know when we are brainwashed, because if we'd know... no more brainwashing :-)
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: cryptonoob312 on November 22, 2017, 09:35:54 AM Yes, we are. Thanks to the television, marketing and media.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: nihilista on November 22, 2017, 09:39:19 AM Agree with the speaker. The latest adverts tendency has proved that our goverment want us become never grown up teenagers, who only want to buy new trendy things and toys (I mean new computers, Ithings, clothes and whatever..)
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MRX- on November 22, 2017, 10:08:21 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I think those problems started when we people got lost with our own desires, be it technology or something, we forgot a one key factor. We forgot how to actually live. I see religious people, but I don't see and Spirituality. I see extremely wealthy people, but I don't see extremely and genuinely happy people. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: BitcoinNational on November 22, 2017, 11:29:06 AM That's something we have to day on a daily basis unfortunately. It's easier to let be brainwashed by TV, advertising and all kind of bullshit, that taking the time to think by ourselves.
We have goals but they are determined what we see and what we are been told. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MRX- on November 22, 2017, 12:08:17 PM That's something we have to day on a daily basis unfortunately. It's easier to let be brainwashed by TV, advertising and all kind of bullshit, that taking the time to think by ourselves. I couldn't agree more, it's sad actually but it is the truth, anyone to this day especially them labeled as "millennials" have no actual "self". As Human beings progress, we are more and more heavily influenced by the surroundings.We have goals but they are determined what we see and what we are been told. No one can ever deny that who they are, who we are today is greatly influenced by media, advertising, internet, culture and religion. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: herecomesjohnny on November 22, 2017, 06:37:16 PM We are brainwashed by the everything that is presented to us from commercial to consumer products. Every man's goal is to live in prosperity and to have the nice financial situation. There are few people that don't have the need for the money. Every man has a goal but if he doesn't know what his goal his that doesn't mean he doesn't have one. It means he has to find his goal that is more important than searching for money all his life. We should make our own standards and make our own border from reaching what we want to and not commit ourselves to others that are filling us with their own ideas.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Magister Magus on November 22, 2017, 06:58:03 PM I think that - even the media try to brainwash us - we have the last word to decide what to believe
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Heldir88 on November 22, 2017, 07:05:25 PM Most of us is brainwashed, mass-media and press working on it about 50 years, and their labors have good profit
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: WhoKn0ws on November 22, 2017, 07:21:03 PM Subconsciously whether you'd like to admit it or not, we are all in some way, some form all brainwashed.
It all comes down as to how strong minded you really are. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: spongegar on December 04, 2017, 05:06:09 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Yes, with how media is now? Not just in economics where we are bombarded by what to wear, what to eat even what to look like. We also have a warped notion of giving money to these talentless, borderline moronic "celebrities" than while police, fire fighters and doctors that actually help people out. What the crappy thing is, even our body image and opinions are dictated Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ttbd on December 04, 2017, 08:32:07 AM Everything is a brainwash From the moment you start school is the moment "they" start re-programming you. They fill your head with restrictions saying "you can't do this". They teach you if you are "bad" or "disobedient" to "their" system you will be punished. And if your follow the system you will be rewarded. They are re-programming your way of thinking and restricting our minds. We are constantly being told what we can and can't do which leads to self-doubt. We as humans have the capability to access our entire minds, but because of the mass brainwashing from the media. Government, schools etc we have been taught to doubt our own abilities. The system is almost impossible to escape because we are trapped by the poisons they are constantly spraying in the sky, in our food, the poison they spread through the media and so called "education".
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: NetDetective on December 04, 2017, 08:33:27 AM The television and fake news, mass media control, more than brainwashed they control us since we birth.
They tell us what to buy, how to do it, and when we do it. That's why instead of war on poverty, they do other things. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: manananggal on December 04, 2017, 09:19:31 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. No more goals,no ideas,ideology,morals of principles.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: bitctrimor1 on December 04, 2017, 01:01:34 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Ahh you are right more or less, it all depends where you live and what personality you have. There are a lot of people that i know which have goal in there life. Some succeeded and some i hope will in future. But you are right when you say that most of people are made in perfect consumers, i see that more and more everyday. And it saddens me a lot. What you said about past and fight for freedom and rights are not needed in this day and age, because we have most of that. It all comes with evolution of human society. Person with enough personality will know what to do and what he wants, and won't succumb to other peoples brainwash.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Well, like the reply said, it would depend on so many factors. If you feel that you are being "urged" beyond your control to follow something that you actually don't want to do. Then, you can actually define that as brainwashing; however, you do always have a choice with what you do. Although with have societal norms and common practices that people follow in their daily lives, there are not rules that say that deviating from those would be something wrong. Maybe it would feel awkward by being different, but your life is your own, like your decisions are too. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Snub on December 04, 2017, 01:05:21 PM unfortunately, it's true...we all are under tremendous influence...and it's nice sometimes to notice this and go beyond that...it's nice not to looks like the herd
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: beonline on December 04, 2017, 01:15:48 PM Yeah but knowing that makes it less horrible
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Genovese on December 08, 2017, 10:08:49 PM Yes, we are all brainwashed by media, and even if we know we are, we still are. No way out.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: hero1111 on December 08, 2017, 10:31:42 PM Most of people are thinking only money and buy better house , better car better phone and more beautiful clothes and they are looking the phone for to follow some stupid things , i think yess we are brainwasheds because some people want it .
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Gracechen17 on December 08, 2017, 10:32:18 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. i dont think people now do not really have goals, i think they are just more careless. They being caught up by modern world where everyone are getting lazy, being influenced by environment, social media influences but still i believe there are still people who have goals and have good principles in life. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ezbreezy08 on December 08, 2017, 10:35:54 PM For me Yes we are brainwashed by our governments they thinking about themselves that's why we need to learn from our mistakes. fiat money is the biggest scam of all if you your going to watch the trailer in youtube the history of money. you'll be amaze
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Brunusmagnus on December 08, 2017, 10:37:26 PM Brainwashed may be is an exageration. But non decision can be good if it's based on bad information.
So, who manipulates the media has real power. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Hopeful2017 on December 08, 2017, 10:51:09 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Many people are like that nowadays. They are very dependent to others. No directions inlife and no sense of responsiility. Its like living like a grasshopper, dont know what will happen to them tomorrow. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: bitminerox0621 on December 09, 2017, 02:53:12 AM If you want to experience life, go ahead on a vacation on a real remote island, or best live there for months. By then you'll understand life and understand that it's the society that drives people's ambition. It's like the society is dictating people's lives which can be observed well in today's life.
Hope you'll do what I advised and hope you enjoy life. :) ;) ;) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: longyenthanh on December 09, 2017, 12:17:21 PM Brainwashing is done daily by TV, the internet, politicians, etc. They say how to live so that it is consistent with the imposed way of thinking.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Mr.flores on December 09, 2017, 12:38:25 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. In my mind,the real remaining question is 'how?though is not likely a simple answe.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 19dimasik77 on December 09, 2017, 07:01:02 PM I used to always think that I think sensibly. But after studying a little advertising, I realized how much people are suggestible. And this is used by all - politicians, sellers, religion.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: rondorondo on December 09, 2017, 10:17:24 PM Yes, we are brainwashed especally today. We are brainwasched through media and even parents are damaging our brain becaouse they are also brainwashed. That is why the situation is very sad today on our planet.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: wawanwawan96 on December 10, 2017, 12:01:25 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. no one is brainwashing but growing yet ya time of money for some people everything in their life.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. the more progressive and progressive mind is unlikely to return to the days of ancient Rome Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: JonesMark on December 10, 2017, 12:45:44 AM YES!!!
The best thing to do is to not bother with it, and just think, what do you want to do, and do it. Seripously. So many people gone nuts, thinking about this crap Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Ttrader on December 10, 2017, 02:17:47 AM People have goals, go to college, buy a house, forget their goals.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cryptolupus on December 10, 2017, 02:25:20 AM Well, people have goals, but the real question is: are they REALLY their goals?
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: A L I E N on December 10, 2017, 12:32:29 PM Subconsciously whether you'd like to admit it or not, we are all in some way, some form all brainwashed. It all comes down as to how strong minded you really are. Yes we are all brainwashed, but what is good now more and more people understand it. Less fellows watch TV and almost no one believes in promisses of polititians. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Xising on December 14, 2017, 12:29:16 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I think we are being brainwashed every day through social media, news, advertising and whatever we watch on TV. They want us to believe that in what they want us to believe. However, each one of us is capable of critical thinking and we always have a choice on what we choose to see and believe. We can only be brainwashed if we allow them to do it. I’d rather read books or watch something that could expand my knowledge in general and not a single second spent on Hollywood news. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tomwalsh on December 14, 2017, 12:31:31 PM It is an interesting concept that society is brainwashing.
We are an innately social species, allowing us to share ideas and concepts, building on the past success and failure of others to develop or technology and progress our society. As a result all our ideas are based on the past ideas of generation before us. In a way you could say we are brainwashed because we all learn and are thought using the same societal norms, allowing us to interact with others in society on common ground. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though, if you didn't have common ground thoughts in order to communicate with others no one would care what you had to say. The key to expanding your mind is building upon and questioning these 'brainwashed norms' not rejecting them Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: anthonytippetts on December 14, 2017, 12:51:50 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I agree with you. Sometimes I think about it.. Why do we need all those fancy clothes? The most expensive cars? Who are we so hardly trying to impress? Seems like our life passes and we don't even know why do we buy all expensive and useless stuff. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: innocent93 on December 14, 2017, 01:40:34 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Well...that is true, there is no romance in this world, at this time not a lot of people are able to be happy for the small things, we only consume.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: kylekyle2000 on December 14, 2017, 09:16:05 PM With the current situation we are in, I have to admit that our society, together with the media (songs, tv, social media) is influencing us and making us think in such a certain way as if going against that would be taboo.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Minnie1928 on December 14, 2017, 09:51:31 PM Brainwashing is a common thing in our society. Usually, the main brainwasher is the media that is presenting to us the false things that we usually believe in. Our world was built on the brainwashing technique. Just look at the consequences of the world wars. Entire nations were brainwashed by their leaders and that led to the catastrophic losses. Today there are different techniques but again these methods have been proven useful for the individuals that want be above other people.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: BountyX on December 14, 2017, 11:57:25 PM We are more brainwashed than we would ever suspect. The movie industry is very effective in this sense.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: yoseph on December 14, 2017, 11:59:42 PM We are more brainwashed than we would ever suspect. The movie industry is very effective in this sense. People were brainwashed to think that being gay was a natural phenomenon in life, look at the movie industry they promote it so much that we have accepted it.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: shiki3226 on December 16, 2017, 06:31:33 PM I think we are not. No one has the right to control us or cause us to act in a certain way that is against our will. However, we can be influenced and that is the thing that we have to be careful of.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Naoko on December 17, 2017, 08:06:04 PM they make of us those who are comfortable handling.. then I try not to listen to news, less to watch ads and think more about my own desires than about imposed ones
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Darklinkz on March 08, 2018, 07:22:31 AM Somehow, yes. People aim on things that they see on tv, movies and especially on social media. It really annoys when youth follow stupid trends that those popular media personalities started. It's not important what's right anymore but only what's in.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Holy Dank on March 08, 2018, 07:58:44 AM Everything we see and hear is conditioning us to act a certain way, and it takes a very mindful person to be able to be able to filter out all the garbage that is being pushed on us.
Short answer is yes, companies and authority figures, all kinds of people are always trying to figure out ways to get in your head. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Gabbass on March 08, 2018, 10:56:59 AM i believe that yes. since our childhood, unfortunatelly our opinion, our preferences, our goals are already programmed. and only strong, very strong people can resist that system.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: GenaBoom on March 08, 2018, 11:02:45 AM yes, we are. a big impact of brainwashesness give our parents. their attitude to the world is completely reflecting on us. only with growing up, some of us understand the system plan and try to avoid it. but the majority, unfortunatelly are born with washed brains and will die with brainswashed
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Akolade66 on March 08, 2018, 11:19:21 AM most of us , yes but there are still people who go out of the system and do extraordinary things..
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Olrac on March 08, 2018, 11:22:11 AM Brainwashed I guess is not best term to use. For me, people are just more focused on material things and they tend to forget their goals. Or it could also be they're just enjoying the moment and set aside their goals in life for a while.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Danzu on March 08, 2018, 11:35:33 AM yes of course, but we can easyly clear our mind, our thoughts. it starts as soon as we understand, that we are brainwashed))
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on March 08, 2018, 05:54:26 PM i believe that yes. since our childhood, unfortunatelly our opinion, our preferences, our goals are already programmed. and only strong, very strong people can resist that system. There are a bunch of really interesting documentaries about Edward Bernays and his work. I highly recommend the one by Adam Curtis called 'The Century of the Self': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s) or reading Bernays work 'Propaganda' which, to be honest, I've not done yet. 'Brainwashing' is kind of like a piece of cloth in that once a tear gets started, it can continue and destroy the whole item. Modern propaganda is aimed at trying to not let tears get started (by use of what I call 'information channels' and censorship mostly) and attempting the 'stitch in time' principle. This by making people uncomfortable with certain thought patterns and thus reject them. The term 'conspiracy theory' and weaving in 'guilt' into the fabric are two methods in common use. In reading Orwell's work, it is almost inconceivable to me that he was not very familiar with the 'insiders' who've understood well Bernays' work and decided to use it systematically to their advantage for social control. I think you got the it correct that most people will not, for a variety of reasons, ever really break out. Probably more than meet the 'very strong' bar however, and probably enough to cause some real problems for the proverbial 'powers that be.' Hope so. The shit always hits the fan eventually. These are events that cause a lot of un-noticed defect to turn into huge tears. These are also the times when people who who've had some seeds of doubt germinating in the ground 'wake up' and make a difference. It's not a total waste of time to try to plant some of these seeds when possible....though the results may not appear within one's own lifetime. Edit: slight. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mlgblockchain on March 08, 2018, 06:17:25 PM Yes we are brainwashed. And the funny thing is, we already know it but we don't mind it. It's a very interestingly pathetic situation. We are being used by this new data system where everything can be recorded and process it as they please. We know it but we don't mind. It's a super brainwash, I salute them, they did a wonderful job.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: CryptoConduct on March 08, 2018, 06:17:43 PM Surely propaganda, news, advertising don its job. Majority of people live lives of operated subjects their wishes and struggles are easy to conduct 8)
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Angna27 on March 09, 2018, 09:54:47 AM This is sad but it's true. its happening people in the past gave their life for freedom, they were passionate, patriotic and nationalistic and more than that they were the people who fight,, who fought for their marriage to work, fought for their family stability, fought for what is right not being use by others. If only these people realize what they are losing and that there's still time to make up and become better person, better citizen, better human being.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: timadok911 on March 12, 2018, 05:58:35 PM our society is buried in new technologies ... Previously, to feed our family, we fled into the forest and hunted or collected berries and mushrooms, now even the store does not need to go to the store and the courier with your products is already going to you, we are very lazy. ... our children do not imagine their lives without selfi, social networks and electronic zombie programming for them it became an obsession, status ... and where is the fun in the yard with friends, funny fun in the street ... soon the grounds of our children will be covered dust, and the guests will go only nlayn sad ... and how to be in this situation? just need to be an example for your children.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: RuthaRubenstein on March 13, 2018, 11:38:52 PM The main thing that caused our brainwash is certainly technical gadgets and games. they stole the childhood days of children :(
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mrcash02 on March 14, 2018, 01:15:22 AM There are still people who weren't brainwashed and that would like to fight for something better than what we have now. People that would like to live in a more sincere and aware world, keeping the traditions, respecting the frontiers and the individuals, but these people are too few, aren't together (they don't know each other) and don't have the necessary influence or power on their hands to make the difference.
Also, they can tell whatever they want to other people and they won't listen, it will be like empty words, worthless effort, because most people don't want to wake up from the modus operandi they are already used to. Sometimes seems there will a resistance to the imminent destruction of the old good values that brought the world to the evolutional state we reached some time ago and that people will wake up before it's too late, but it never really happens. People are inspiring themselves in wrong ideas and concepts. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: KingKongGorilla on March 14, 2018, 07:31:41 AM unfortunately we are. but we can resist. as soon as we understand that someone had washed our brains we are starting to get rid of it and we become smarter. brainwashing has started many years age, the global elite doesn't need educated people around the world, so, they brainwash us since our early childhood
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mylifeisorandom on March 14, 2018, 08:07:47 AM I get what you mean. But not all of these blessings we have today means that we are brainwashed by society. These technologies we have today are fruits of those goals and dreams who invented them. It is bad to be a slave to these technologies but using them for the greater good is not. There are still dreams and goals out there waiting to be achieved.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: squog on March 14, 2018, 08:39:13 AM To an extent i do believe in what you're saying. We have become a nation of sheep where we just readily accept what the media gives us as "factual information", we give in to a herd mentality where we should have the latest gadget or fashion so we can increase our self worth. We bash and put down one another simply because we can hide from the anonymity of an avatar. We have a mentality now that if someone can do it better, why do it at all.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: — on March 14, 2018, 08:54:23 AM The main thing that caused our brainwash is certainly technical gadgets and games. they stole the childhood days of children :( Don't underestimate free newspapers like on u-bahn or gas-station...... its pure propaganda with agenda television = tell a vision Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: stantpro on March 14, 2018, 09:11:38 AM The world is held bound by hegemonic forces of economic sabotage.
When people are hungry, they prefer to find food first and get filled before considering being a hero of some sort.In the world of today, the government make fiat money very scarce to people as to control them. The reason for crypto decentralized currency is to reduce or remove the centralized control of money by forces of governments.This is the singular force influencing the way people think, act and behave. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: TosTeam on March 14, 2018, 09:23:04 AM Money is the only goal in this life. Living a healthy life is the second. You can nearly buy everything with money, even health. (unless you aren't fucked up beyond repair) Are we brainwashed? Damn, yes. We are like little rats, working our asses off everyday for dollars. Watch "American Psycho" if you haven't watch yet and see how crazy we can get for money. The dude(Bale) who plays Patrick has a great amount of money and can buy everything yet he is not happy at all. Worse yet, he doesn't have a "real" friend. painful truth, but can't deny it. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MNMLs on March 14, 2018, 09:57:55 AM Yes, all of us. But we can resist that. Read books, have own opinion, develop yourself
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Ekaterina Kosolapova on March 14, 2018, 10:07:47 AM ok
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: rancidgash on March 14, 2018, 10:37:22 AM The world is held bound by hegemonic forces of economic sabotage. I think we've been being brainwashed for a long time, and still are.The fact that we do and believe things based on social conditioning rather than critical thought is a positive indication of brainwashing that still takes place in society.When people are hungry, they prefer to find food first and get filled before considering being a hero of some sort.In the world of today, the government make fiat money very scarce to people as to control them. The reason for crypto decentralized currency is to reduce or remove the centralized control of money by forces of governments.This is the singular force influencing the way people think, act and behave. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Olaniyiola on March 14, 2018, 11:26:55 AM We just need to start all over because is never too late.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: pantheraio on March 14, 2018, 01:18:10 PM brainwashing is done via television advertisement, they market their products and tell you exactly what you need and convince you to buy them.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: fcf1081 on March 14, 2018, 04:18:35 PM Yes i agree people now a days have been driven by commercial system that everything must be done in an instant,... instant coffee...food...dress...even relationship became instant. Gone are the days that people have high moral, and put more importance on education rather than anything... these are mostly the cases happen today.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MaryJane4200 on March 14, 2018, 04:37:13 PM they try to wash our brains all the time, since our childhood. but only you decide if you are rpo or against. try to resist and the truth will come
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Shiidoshen1997 on March 14, 2018, 04:41:55 PM Yes, some advertisement and big companies brainwashed us like the media. They show wrong information to us, advertisement in television brainwashed us just to avail their products even the result of it will put us in danger and the worst thing that blurry our mind is money.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: phantuanvu007 on March 14, 2018, 04:53:50 PM If you are in a communist country, you will feel sad because of the great money, Vietnam is a typical example
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: PandaPandaKK on March 14, 2018, 06:35:33 PM yes, we are. because everything around us is brainwashing. some of us are less brainwashed, some more
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: PIR on March 15, 2018, 12:16:40 AM This is the kind of life we have today...that's what we see around us...this world filled our mind with so many things that is not good for us sometimes...it's like garbage..and so we have to choose...what we accept and what not to accept...what we want to hear, what we want to see..because those things matter... our life should not be determined by what people say to us and what they want to see in us or expect of us.. we have to set our own own high moral standard based on the truth..on the word of God so that we will no wronged and we will not brainwashed.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Btcalimie on March 15, 2018, 01:32:46 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. The media are the one who influenced the majority of the people. They are able to control people's mind when the false rumors they are spreading. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cryptonistic on March 15, 2018, 05:59:09 AM we're all brainwashed. unfortunately we dont know where is the end and the beginning. at least, we know that we are brainwashed, it means we're little bit closer to the clean sheet.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: GC2263 on March 15, 2018, 06:22:46 AM Definitely yes, we are all brainwashed everyday. Internet, media, TV, social media, politicians, music, entertainment and the list goes on are basically sending a message to us. With the influx of these messages, we in one way or another will be affected or influenced by it. Simple example, some country leader will use media to showcase how great the current government is doing in order to continue getting votes for the next election. The bad things will never be shown to the people. Brands will advertise how good their product but will never show the bad side of it.
So good luck guys... Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mintevacuateY on March 16, 2018, 04:29:09 AM Yes we are! we have just become a selfish and non social consumer only without any colourful life :(
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: fritzbird on March 16, 2018, 09:18:39 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I believe it's the byproduct of so much input and the excessiveness of modern society's indulgence with technology, wealth, status and politics. People tend to live in the reality well provided of what seems normal, better and expected. There is just too much of everything and people have no way of filtering, channeling and managing all of it. Some are smarter and rational than others, they stick to their calling in life and live it off simply with contentment. Others are more hungry and greedy, there is nothing to satisfy or quench their insatiable appetite for the obvious, avarice and desires. They are way too distracted to even bother to look and ask for themselves, if this is indeed life's calling and if it truly brings meaning to ones own existence. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Keth.Alex on March 16, 2018, 12:14:58 PM I was born and raised in a post soviet republic,in tyranny you are being forced to do "what's needed" in democracy you are fooled to do "what's needed". Essentially nothing changes, we are being brainwashed and manipulated. Like Mark Twain once said: “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.”
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: El_rancho on March 16, 2018, 12:30:19 PM I believe it's the byproduct of so much input and the excessiveness of modern society's indulgence with technology, wealth, status and politics. People tend to live in the reality well provided of what seems normal, better and expected. There is just too much of everything and people have no way of filtering, channeling and managing all of it, some are smarter than others they stick to their calling in life and live it off with contentment. Others are more hungry and greedy, there is nothing to satisfy or quench their insatiable appetite for the obvious and deep desires. They are way too distracted to even bother to look and ask for themselves if this is indeed life's calling and if it truly brings meaning to ones own existence. That's pretty deep dude, in thought and in reality it is an unspoken truth. I agree with you there. This whole brainwash process has been going on for years now and it's evolving and getting fatter annually. It goes unnoticed because of the heavy influence and manipulation that has overwhelmed countless leaders, politicians, businessmen and consumers. We are in it deep. I was born and raised in a post soviet republic,in tyranny you are being forced to do "what's needed" in democracy you are fooled to do "what's needed". Essentially nothing changes, we are being brainwashed and manipulated. Like Mark Twain once said: “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.” Well spoken sir, truth be told. Our modern choices and options have always been carefully designed to conform and fall into their grand scheme. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: goldshops65 on March 19, 2018, 12:53:17 AM I don't think I am brainwashed! I am what I was before, happy, talkative, nose poking and playful :)
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: swallovwvile8 on March 22, 2018, 01:04:59 AM I think yes we are brainwashed by our family only. We have to bring 90% or will get a thrashing that's are the small brainwashing threats
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: secondhandlark5 on March 22, 2018, 04:27:39 AM Brainwashed by whom and for what? I didn't get your point clearly how can I answer then
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: broilsemla0 on March 22, 2018, 06:53:22 PM I haven't thought of it. I didn't think we are really brainwashed by external issues but we are brainwashed by our inner us only
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Gracechen17 on March 22, 2018, 07:15:21 PM You right. This generation is easy go lucky generation. People are more careless, more lazy, more materialistic and people are becoming oppressive. Will get what they want whatever it takes. No more long term plans, no more hard work and perseverance.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: faultunfmuzzled8 on March 22, 2018, 08:35:49 PM You are right we have became just a machine with the controls in the hand of Money and success
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: HelperAdvisorsLLP on March 22, 2018, 09:26:43 PM I think it's human nature - most of us don't carry of life
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 0k0l0g on March 22, 2018, 09:30:45 PM We definitely are brainwashed. It's sad but true. Making money off manipulating people to feel they need products that give no meaning or value to their life. Being content and stuck in the clog of capitalism.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: akishang on March 23, 2018, 12:59:41 AM I look around me and all I see are people who have goals. I live in a country were we experienced being having just enough and we really want to climb our way up. We learned to dream big and take action to reach our goal. I think the people around are just free loaders who doesn't have a goal in life. Maybe they have a comfortable life and doesn't give a damn about the future. Don't be like them and always dream big.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: impatientyoutubeJ on March 23, 2018, 04:52:21 AM Even the nursery books tells that without being successful and money existence on earth is just like a pebble with no value.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tprabash on March 23, 2018, 05:15:17 AM Im not brain washed but some people are brainwashed but political people need a brainwash 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Berenzorn on April 01, 2018, 09:44:55 PM Corporations need our money and advertisement is their horsemen. More money to the gods of money.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on April 02, 2018, 04:50:41 PM Lots of the threads here on bitcointalk.org are textbook studies in 'brainwashing' and really valuable to a researcher/analyst for that reason. Considering that Bitcoin as a technology probably has appeal which skews toward the 'free-thinker' end of the scale, the observations are even more interesting. And alarming. I do not (because I cannot) rule out the existence of bots here, much less put a metric on it, but it certainly could be a factor. A twitter-trained human on a cell phone is pretty indistinguishable from a bot a lot of times. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mashedtasks6 on April 03, 2018, 01:46:05 AM Yes by the government so that it benefits them.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: wistfuljob on April 03, 2018, 03:47:12 AM I don’t think we are brainwashed as it is not easy to do so.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: linesretweetG on April 08, 2018, 05:58:57 PM Yes. Totally. for the things that we do not want to do and etc.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: pazon456 on April 08, 2018, 06:45:11 PM Yes definitely we are brainwashed by the money and current technology. It is really sad but all of us should admit with that
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: timadok911 on April 09, 2018, 02:30:16 AM society is degrading ... we are becoming dependent on the blessings of humanity about which we are being forced to market the television billboard, we can not live a day without photos and instagrams, snotty comments under the photo of the star .. where we roll ... I'm very upset by this ... and how are our children that will remain for them ... a solid society of destruction
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: griddleegret4 on April 10, 2018, 04:33:45 AM That clearly sounds like a goal to me and no we aren’t brainwashed.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: King Koy on April 10, 2018, 06:16:07 AM Nope! We are not brainwashed but what the people's behavior nowadays is just something what they understand from this Modern World. Look the government does not care about morality, doesn't care about the needs of his people, doesn't care about the future of the next generation. So what can we expect about the manners of human today? Nothing but the falling down of the true meaning of what really life is all about.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: sabtu malam on April 10, 2018, 07:01:11 AM not have a purpose, but does not yet have a goal for sure where they'll bring their lives become more useful than before. Maybe they haven't found something that makes comfortable and excited.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: unexecuted on April 10, 2018, 08:39:30 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Do you really want to give your life for something? Why? Our time is different from the past and people finally have an opportunity to live and enjoy their lives Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: mintevacuateY on April 10, 2018, 04:51:34 PM We are clearly brainwashed. We are shown the wrong and not the right.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: stantpro on April 10, 2018, 07:40:19 PM Society brainwashes its citizens through the school or educational system.
Its all about mind twist from the days of school.Once, we graduate, we seek for job and begin to do the rat-racing of working and buying a whole of things produced by few thinkers(elites) without pondering how to develop our own personal ideas, vision, projects and thoughts.We are influenced by societal outcomes with high peer pressure to remain belonged in the system.It calls for reflection. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Brigalabdis on April 10, 2018, 07:53:30 PM Saving money for a nice product can be a goal :) Yeah, the money is the important of all because nowadays, it can do whatever you want and also it get too powerful thing in this world. Too many person who have a lot of money does have the power to do what their want to do. Of course, we go to the latest fashion or way because people just think you positively when you are more good looking and have new or latest thing. All thing can be change so don't be new to that. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: concatmedial8 on April 13, 2018, 04:50:11 AM Following the dreams and getting the best is not being brainwashed.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: DrYe5 on April 13, 2018, 05:09:44 AM Following the dreams and getting the best is not being brainwashed. We get brainwashed at school and the brainwashing continues in the workplace.We are adults, but we afraid of other adults because they are called Team Leader.We don't think there's anything wrong with that worldview. It feels normal to us.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tenaciousme on April 13, 2018, 05:50:45 AM Its a gradual process, An example is homosexuality, Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in them, They want us to see it as a normal thing to the extent that we may accept is as a norm in our society but that aint gonna happen. just wondering why you've chosen this very social phenomenon as an example... ??? Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Babylon on April 13, 2018, 06:20:21 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Yes we are technically brainwashed at school , and even to the social media , and medias though sad but that is the true instead of living by the truth we tend to live in the society that is cruel and full of fake and lie. We have no privacy , I think we aren't free anymore we're like a bird in a cage with no freedom to fly. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on April 13, 2018, 07:07:55 AM I left the Bay Area half a decade ago, and went to an area where there is not even any cell phone coverage. Over that time my 'mind has changed' in a lot of ways, and I think for the better. Part of it was that I have some incentive and more time to do in-depth research, but there may be more to it. I don't rule out the possibility that there are some environmental factors which could be influencing how people think about certain key subjects, and if so, electromagnetic radiation seem to be the most likely way to achieve such things. Research along these lines has been going on for half a century or more and is fairly well documented. Another thing of note. While I spend most of my time in an electromagnetically 'quite' area where I live, I do go shopping every week or two. At a certain area of a certain large grocery store, I suddenly notice that I'm feeling 'whoozy' for lack of a better word. I don't think it is completely an invention of my mind because normally I notice the effect then remember feeling that way before. My hypothesis is that there is something environmental going on and since I am normally not exposed to it, I've become sensitive enough to be consciously impacted by it. I would point out that this phenomenon was fairly repeatable for a few years but over the last year I really have not noticed it. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: smarteth on April 13, 2018, 08:18:52 AM I agree, we are certainly being brain washed, by business to buy latest gadgets, by movies to think that the only goal for a man is sleep with as many women as possible.
Therefore, it is best to be with our own self and stay calm without getting involved with all the stuff. However, it is also not advised to just stay away and run from everything in the society. For eg, if we dont have technological development, mobile phones and its continous development, we wont be able to make develop with such technologies such as BlockChain Tech and cryptocurreny. I guess, there is good and bad to every thing that is available to everyone. So whether it is from the media or in general from the society, it is better to take good and leave the bad behind. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: MadAndHoldersPattern on April 13, 2018, 08:27:19 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I see where you're coming from, but people who can enjoy life by having and doing simple things are more blessed and more pleasant to be around, than career freaks, fitness freaks or political freaks who are always tense, desperate for their goals or hostile. You could argue that people who have higher principles and are on a mission are escaping from themselves and need something special to feel normal, while people who can enjoy life doing simple things are more free. You need inner turmoil to do something great, people who are already fulfilled won't bother doing anything or changing the world. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: g-unit on April 13, 2018, 10:18:51 AM Ancient people were brainwashed too with another goals that were created by authorities. We are brainwashed with mass media and consumption culture nowadays. New age, same old story.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: DeepBoost on April 13, 2018, 10:48:51 AM In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Dont you think that people who fought and gave their life for freedom are mostly brainwashed? Someone who leads them to battlefield does not want them to be free. People absorb ideas and aims of their society, only one of thousand tries to think independently.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on April 13, 2018, 02:31:57 PM In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Dont you think that people who fought and gave their life for freedom are mostly brainwashed? Someone who leads them to battlefield does not want them to be free. People absorb ideas and aims of their society, only one of thousand tries to think independently. To be an effective soldier one needs to become a psychopath because it necessitates killing people who you don't even know and have done nothing to you. What the U.S. calls 'TRADOC' ('Training and Indoctrination') has the job of converting fairly ordinary people into psychos in the cases where they were not already. Yes, I've 'been there, done that.' I knew very few people in the U.S. military who believed much of the 'freedom' bullshit, though we were conditioned to parrot such things. It was mostly a crutch to help with the pain of being a psycho, potential psycho, or having a psycho family member I suspect. At least here in 'the land of the free.' The 'normal' human mind is wired for just this kind of psychopathy because the populations who had it through history had an evolutionary advantage. They grew while the 'abnormal' populations with to many 'peacniks' shrunk at the former's hand. As I explore the methods of 'leadership', I'm more and more of the mind that leadership is the art of modulating and controlling natural psychopathy within the target population. So-called 'brainwashing' is one of the tools for doing so. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: us11csalyer on April 16, 2018, 03:14:37 AM I think this is because of the great flow of information. People got access to the Internet with a bunch of books, movies and TV shows. Those principles of morality, which have been instilled in us from childhood, are still preserved by someone, but many have lost them. What are the goals, if you can live a lot of interesting lives just watching TV shows?
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Bawang on April 16, 2018, 03:39:27 AM Thank for this. This sounds so real. It is now the gadgets that control us instead of us who should control the society, this is exactly what we are facing right now. Lucky are those people who are like you. An observer requires keen and deep understanding. Just like what you have quoted, I think most of the people nowadays are brainwashed and just getting with the flow. Yes. we are brainwashed. and what's heartbreaking is, a lot of people doesn't know what real LOVE is anymore.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Loveydovey04 on April 16, 2018, 07:28:12 PM People have no goals because they see no prospects. It seems to me that any war brings up in people patriotism and humanity. We long to live without war and so grew a society of consumers. Our goal is to buy a car and home to jealous neighbors. It's very sad. Sad but true. Whether we deny it or not as individuals what do we really desire in life? I am also guilty of the same reason. Sometimes i am being misled by what i am seeing in social medias, internet world that people are becoming egoistic and materialism and i realize i am also being caught up by the same affairs.Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: maksimukr1989 on April 16, 2018, 09:26:31 PM I suggest you to watch video about an experiment which was made by the American scientist John Kelkhun in 1972.this experiment the Universe-25 is called: as paradise became hell. you will find the answer to your question in him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=0Z760XNy4VM
pleasant viewing Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: alexxx22 on April 16, 2018, 10:25:13 PM Well, when there is an understanding that a person is also a biological species, and his behavior has been formed over time and evolution. The goal of any kind of survival, ideas, goals is simply a manifestation of conditioned reflexes.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: soulcancer on April 17, 2018, 12:54:59 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. watch ned beatty's speech in the movie NETWORK....prophetic Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: robbietobby on April 17, 2018, 01:46:50 AM This is the real circus of the ancient time, I agree in what you say. We are all brainwashed on what is being showned and by not knowing the occult meaning on every single actions we had made. All products that are being sell in the market are the prodducts of brainwash. All our dramas that we watched on the television is a form of brainwash and somehow it helps us to lessen our stresses in a form of entertainment yet decreases the dignity of "somethings." These occult is widely known also for creating music videos and everything connected to earth and under the sun.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on April 17, 2018, 02:14:09 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. most are ! by design, but it is easy to wake up Quote Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity. Unite humanity with a living new language. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. Balance personal rights with social duties. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature. Rome opposes this. the Empire must grow or perish. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: miam7374 on April 17, 2018, 02:57:11 AM Exactly my brain and generally have been contaminated with instant technology viruses that continue to weigh on every moment. Hence the days are so fast pace. Yes, about ideas or ideas, programs and ideologies are sometimes far removed from memory. What is sought and needed now is only freedom of expression and money. But sometimes even money does not meet the needs, especially if the brain is too tired and congested with all the diversity of the latest info that goes
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: cellflash on April 17, 2018, 09:46:21 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. We belonged to the third World. Most of the people were now idealist. We also have new technology. Some were using it properly and some were using it as a destruction.. In society, most influential are government and church. Some people protest against them. Some people rely their lives on them in order to survive. We cannot blame them, if they have wrong or corrupt governance. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Strongball on April 18, 2018, 03:08:49 PM I think this year a lot of new things and a lot of entertainment is a progress of this story and this new thing has a special meaning for people who can enjoy a more fun and easy life. Too much technology and information has lead to an overload of such sorts. But it depends on people, a lot are enjoying this revolution and innovative technology. It's best to stick to what simply makes us happy and feel contented and avoid the rush and frustration that modern society has on it's youth and people. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: criza on April 19, 2018, 12:14:39 AM The world of today is full influence through the help of media. Various mediums are in existence for us to have an access to essential and nonessential information, entertainment, and what's is going on around about the society, politics, and business. We are submerged into the world wherein we have the influence and we re influenced of something by someone. And with that, a question of are we really brainwashed needs to be answered. I think that we are unconsciously brainwashed since one of the core powers of media is that it embeds ideas, concepts and values. Meaning we really are into its influence of it. Moreover, due to its nature of influence, we have the tendency now to not think of what the media is putting upon us. But I do also believe that we are getting smart when it comes to verifying and checking and information.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Izalcomax on April 19, 2018, 01:07:56 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Maybe you got the point, all of living things on this earth shared a common basic instinct, SURVIVE.. but nowadays human are live for more than just to survive, since there is not much war on this world, especially in the first world, why would people fight and gave their life for freedom?? they already free.. i dont think so we got brainwashedWe are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: varun bee on April 19, 2018, 05:25:57 AM maybe there is a no purpose of life, there is no real end goal, maybe its all about consuming and then dying. people often complain about getting brainwashed by the internet but they can't stop/limit using it. we are not brainwashed, we are compulsive, comfort seeking species which has found refuge on the internet and don't wanna let it go. & then people complain about how internet has changed their behavior, life, & altered the choices they make . no surprises there.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: CCRBNews on April 19, 2018, 08:32:57 AM Just watch Out Foxed to see how Fox News brain washes their idiotic viewers into believing their crap.
https://vimeo.com/24935369 (https://vimeo.com/24935369) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: iamdebby_23 on April 19, 2018, 11:50:03 AM You are more or less correct by saying that. It's a rat race and only a few nowadays care to save for the future. Schools don't teach children how to save, instead to get a college degree, a job, earn and the cycle continues. It's a pity.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: uddyawham on April 19, 2018, 12:07:11 PM Yes! We are brain washed.
Think of it how many of your beliefs were generated by you? How many of your principles were created out your ingenuity? How often do you make choices based on the conclusion you arrived at due to your studies? if we do a clear reflection on our actions, choices and resolutions we will see that they were based on the information that was handed over to us. Now lets be more specific. Why did you chose your body moisturizer, mouth wash/tooth paste, diet, leisure etc. The first answer that may pop into your head is that you like them. Why do you think you like them? It is definitely because of what you heard about them from a source you don't control. If there is a source that sensors every information that gets to us, don't you think the source could only allow information that will make you loyal to it to get to you? All the information that fly around the globe are contolled by powerful governmental and organisational forces to keep us where they want us to be. This is why I love the blockchain. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Lucas Riley on April 19, 2018, 12:22:55 PM My answer to this would be Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen and Syria. Not to mention Vietnam. We get manipulated time and time and time again. If we were a society of free thinking people (west anyway) we would be up in arms against these warmongers
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: BADecker on April 19, 2018, 03:05:07 PM Most of us are not brainwashed. If we were, we would have clean thoughts, right?
;D Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Chusnul on May 06, 2018, 07:43:20 AM Our susceptibility to brainwashing and manipulation is due to the fact that we come to this world knowing nothing. Our entire knowledge is molded by the different pre-existent concepts that characterize the environment we grow and live in. During childhood, we're pretty much like sponges. We absorb the information we're getting through education and observation. The collected data serves to construct concepts that allow us to set the rules which organize the different aspects of our individual and collective lives.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tseplish on May 07, 2018, 08:12:09 AM as soon as you turn on a tv - brainwashing starts
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: XFlowZion on May 07, 2018, 08:21:07 AM Sort of. The media is just showing us a common goal which is to just to get popular by doing stupid things, making a feud, girls exposing their bodies and some disgusting things. It's considered as a norm which should not be.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: aysler on May 07, 2018, 07:29:35 PM In a sense I'm not sure what society you're talking about specifically, but in my society, the United States, I think we've been being brainwashed for a long time, and still are. We've just never been encouraged to think critically about things. We're always told/taught what to think, rather than how to think, which I consider tantamount to brainwashing.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 08, 2018, 01:19:29 AM OK, so it looks like we have some sort of consensus that's society is in fact being brainwashed against it own best interests.
My problem now is that every one of you transform into agent smith if I point out what's going on. The power of the propaganda is seemingly overwhelming. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Guy Montag on May 08, 2018, 04:41:50 AM i agree that we brainwashed, indeed. and that we are consumers, well, most of us. it's much easier to live this way, not even thinking about the future or any serious stuff like that.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 08, 2018, 05:53:24 AM i agree that we brainwashed, indeed. and that we are consumers, well, most of us. it's much easier to live this way, not even thinking about the future or any serious stuff like that. Yes, the merchants are behind the brainwashing. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: FlightyPouch on May 08, 2018, 06:16:44 AM Sort of. The media is just showing us a common goal which is to just to get popular by doing stupid things, making a feud, girls exposing their bodies and some disgusting things. It's considered as a norm which should not be. Media is the real culprit to these brainwashing since they hold the power of manipulating information being circulated it maybe on the television, on the radio, on the internet and even on the newspapers. I've read some articles about media and how powerful it is. It is so powerful that it can ignite a war and powerful to even stop a war. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: andrew4 on May 08, 2018, 06:30:05 AM We are to some degree brainwashed, but if you avoid watching TV your brainwashing effect will be very small.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: strixa on May 08, 2018, 06:35:57 AM brainwashing is the massive attack on our mind
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: roworship on May 08, 2018, 09:32:51 AM It has become human nature. Yes we are, however I also think that it in most cases is not intentional. We as humans tend to want to be told what to do and think, why? It's just easier. We like to make things easy and not think in most cases. The difference is really a state of mind. Switch of the TV, stop listening to the news, radio, social media feeds. Choose to learn and listen to what interests you instead. The amount of information forced into our consciousness is too much for us to handle. We have evolved to heed advice and information given to us in order to survive in our locality. We are now forced (ever more with media and social media) to worry about things we have no or little control over.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tiejettison on May 08, 2018, 06:37:54 PM Society has brainwashed us all, whether you see it or not. There is really nothing to say. Look around and notice how gullible we are as a society. The government is doing us wrong and we just sit and watch. We put expectations for others to hide our own insecurities. People use the internet nowadays to bash others. What is wrong with today? EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: JesusCryptos on May 08, 2018, 10:39:55 PM Yes, YOU are brainwashed.
Well, let's be fair, we all are, but I can guarantee to you that I am doing my best to see through the veils of deception that all this brainwashing has been stuffing into our minds. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: SkyFlakes on May 08, 2018, 10:59:06 PM Yes, probably in the sense that we are affected by the norms standardized by the society we lived in. We tend to have goals which is typical for a person in a society and there's no problem with that. It is because those goals were all for the betterment of life of an individual. In our country, people is contented with having a minimum wage salary that can sustain their daily needs. There's no problem with that but we should not be contented with that. We should go beyond to what was expected by the society. Have more urge to achieved more because that's one thing that might fulfill you in some time.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Ingramtg on May 09, 2018, 03:24:32 PM I think that's true even some of us have been brainwashed Yes i agreed though , but for me it's our fault to believing others than ourselves though we tend to take the opinion of others and applied to ourselves that is far from reality. And the truth is we been blind , we just living like a robot that need a leader , and somehow that leader are just brainwashing us. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: norther90 on May 16, 2018, 06:11:14 AM If to talk about consuming,some people really go crazy trying to purchase latest iPhone or whatever,to make stupid selfies and spend most of the time in social network,satisfyingly their egoI wouldn’t say moral principles fall down but people nowdays are indifferent,that’s a main problem.People can easily watch violence scenes and don’t take it seriously,thinking just about themselves and their families
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ganate5 on May 16, 2018, 06:14:18 AM Everything is a brainwash Ever since you have learned to be aware you have been brainwashed. There way of teaching kids is not doing any good! If you do something wrong you get punished or shouted at. If you don't do well on a test you think your not good enough. But if you do what they say you get rewarded with things. The media today. Girls looking online at the perfect body they 'should have' and it's considered what you should look like and they are wondering why they dont. Teenagers will do anything to fit the lines so they feel accepted. Its ridiculous!
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: lokanot0 on May 16, 2018, 07:20:33 AM Having the latest iwhatever is a goal, having a fast car is the goal of most men, sleeping with plenty of woman may be called a goal by men but that would have no morals. Doing all this kinds of things without anyone stopping us can be said freedom. People from the past lived in times of war. You should say that people are more lazy and dumb these days that saying that they have no goal or whatever.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 1excel on May 16, 2018, 08:24:43 AM We are not brainwashed, the truth is that "change" is the only thing under the sun which is constant, as we continue to under go a series of metamorphosis we turn to adopt different lifestyle and by so doing throwing away our old or ancient ways of thinking.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 16, 2018, 03:02:16 PM We are not brainwashed, the truth is that "change" is the only thing under the sun which is constant, as we continue to under go a series of metamorphosis we turn to adopt different lifestyle and by so doing throwing away our old or ancient ways of thinking. https://i.imgur.com/qOICryC.png. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: elliryc on May 17, 2018, 08:42:55 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I totally agree. If we don't set goals in life, we are like dead fishes that are dragged by the current of the waters. We go where the world wants us to go, we think what the world wants us to think. But if you will dream and have goals in life, you will act and think differently. You will take risks even going against the flow of this world just to reach your goal. I think people should learn how to fight for their dreams because many has them but are afraid to fight it out and in the end, they live a lif filled with regrets. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Rizqi on May 17, 2018, 03:21:07 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. I can not judge you that you are brainwashed or indeed yes, but I can only suggest that you are looking for the truth that you are brainwashed or not from a global point of view, because if you see a point of view in your area I am sure this is true, but if from a global point of view I am sure the answer you are looking for will be found by yourself Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 18, 2018, 04:30:04 PM Do any races or cultures have a special name for "brainwashed" slaves and workers?
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: KR$N on May 19, 2018, 04:54:37 PM Do any races or cultures have a special name for "brainwashed" slaves and workers? SoldierTitle: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ruchira1994@gmail.com on May 20, 2018, 02:52:16 AM Yes absolutely. Although we think that we are independent actually we aren’t. Although we think that we have freedom. Actually we haven’t. We were brainwashed by politics, TV advertismens and many other mods. Actually they are controlling us. As a example government can publish only favorable things to their system. Because they have control over media. So we automatically start to think that this is correct and this is wrong. Likewise a government can hide their faults and let the people think that everything done by them are correct decisions. Because of the things which poured into their minda people doesn’t thinks about new way of life or a political system. For the items like food, materials etc companies make nice advertising campaigns and it makes us to consume it. All those mods are brainwashing actions. Actually there is a common standard belief within people, this is good and this is bad . Those standarts may have originated with religions or cultures. Sometimes they have done a good job to society and structure. But still those ideas also born in human minds because of brainwashing.
So for good purposes or bad purposes we were brainwashed by someone or something at least several times. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: joappa on May 21, 2018, 06:25:47 PM It's all about the money. Just a theory, when social media was created, it was made just for the sake of people's fun. Take YouTube as an example, if you check older videos like Leek Spin, you can see they were all mainly just a joke. Old YouTube was all about short videos, and short videos that were worth a laugh. But then later on, it all changed.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: umiliate on May 21, 2018, 07:39:01 PM We have all been rewhired and are sheep. Music, YouTube, social media, and commercials are saying we need to be like this, we need to have that, tv promotes unreal beauty standards, music promotes violence and only being in relationships for sex, social media is used to show that it's ok to look at porn ( like when you get a sexy pic ) YouTube sometimes promotes violence or unreal beauty standards and porn and everyone's brain is basically Swiss cheese because they never learn anything so they are easily manipulated, diverted, and diverted . This is why the world is fucked up and violent it's all thanks to your stupid ass tasteless uncreative music, your discusting urges getting the best of you, your stupid time wasting Instagram or whatever, and YouTube. It's hidden Propiganda. No one seems to change And only wise old people it seems who know how the world used to be don't get brainwashed, avoid it have you grandma tell you stories about how great it used to be because it's true.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on May 21, 2018, 09:57:05 PM It's all about the money. Just a theory, when social media was created, it was made just for the sake of people's fun. Take YouTube as an example, if you check older videos like Leek Spin, you can see they were all mainly just a joke. Old YouTube was all about short videos, and short videos that were worth a laugh. But then later on, it all changed. Note that 'social media' arose spontaneously as soon as 'the internet' was created. e-mail was one of the first focuses of the very simple network features of unix at it's birth in Bell Labs back in the early 70's which pre-dated DARPA's internet project by a fair bit. When 'the internet' first became accessible to me in the early 90's, mailing lists, NNTP and IRC were very popular and all are distinctly 'social' in nature. Back in Youtube's early days, and long before it devolved into the Jewtube that we see today with the ADL and SPLC generously providing their censorship 'services', bandwidth was a real issue. It is perfectly natural that vids where short and sweet. I would not say it is 'all about money'. It is all about control and 'controlling the narrative.' Money is a joke to people who have it. It's just a useful tool for more important things...and a select few who print the stuff have as much as they need to make almost anything they want happen. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: nacharlene on May 22, 2018, 09:11:00 AM Yes we are, however I also think that it in most cases is not intentional. We as humans tend to want to be told what to do and think, why? It's just easier. We like to make things easy and not think in most cases. The difference is really a state of mind. Switch of the TV, stop listening to the news, radio, social media feeds. Choose to learn and listen to what interests you instead. The amount of information forced into our consciousness is too much for us to handle. We have evolved to heed advice and information given to us in order to survive in our locality. We are now forced (ever more with media and social media) to worry about things we have no or little control over.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Anco_Marzio on May 22, 2018, 10:44:57 AM Of course we are brainwashed: from parents, teachers, media, opinion leaders...
But we are more brainwashed by our genetic inheritance and by our unconscious drives. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: agus_sna on May 22, 2018, 12:07:20 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We collectively thought that Steve Jobs is a great man even though we knew he made billions of the back of children or maybe it is that it feels that all our heroes are counterfeit. The world itself is just one big hoax. Spamming with our running commentary of masquerading as insight, our social media faking as intimacy. I'm not saying anything new. We all know why we do this not because Hunger Games books makes us happy but because we wanna be sedated. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 22, 2018, 02:19:16 PM Quote Group affected by CIA brainwashing experiments wants public apology, compensation from government Archive: http://archive.is/uypK2 (http://archive.is/uypK2)A group of Canadians affected by CIA brainwashing experiments conducted at McGill University's Allan Memorial Institute met for the first time on Sunday to start organizing for a public apology and compensation from the federal government through a possible class-action. Around 40 people gathered at a Montreal condo to share their stories, cry and support each other. The pain, many said, was palpable in the room. "The government should offer an apology and there should be recognition of the injustice that was done," says Gina Blasbalg, who became a patient at the Allan in her teens in 1960, and drove with her husband from Richmond, B.C., to attend the weekend meeting. Survivors Allied Against Government Abuse (SAAGA), as the group calls itself, includes both victims and family members of people who were unwitting participants in brainwashing experiments conducted under the supervision of Dr. Ewen Cameron, director of the psychiatric hospital between 1943 and 1964. Cameron, co-founder of the World Psychiatric Association and president of various other psychiatric associations over his career, ran "depatterning" and "psychic driving" experiments that attempted to erase a patient's memories and reprogram them with new thoughts. He tested experimental drugs like LSD and PCP, medically induced sleep for extended periods, and oversaw extreme forms of electroshock therapy and sensory deprivation. Many of his patient's brains were then left damaged. The federal government provided Cameron with more than $500,000 between 1950 and 1965 — $4 million in today's dollars — along with a smaller amount of funding from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, using a front organization called the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology. Today, many people argue that Cameron's experiments are part of the foundation for contemporary psychological torture techniques. Janice Shaw explained that she and her siblings all had extremely difficult childhoods without their mother, but now they are relieved to know that there are other people to talk to who went through similar experiences. The sisters and their two brothers were placed in foster care because their mother was incapable of raising them after her stay at the Allan Memorial Institute. A few days ago, they received some of their mother's medical records from the Department of Justice. One of the documents was a handwritten letter by their mother outlining her experience at the Allan. Intrigued by case of compensation Sunday's gathering would not have happened without CBC News investigative journalist Elizabeth Thompson. She regularly checks the government public account records for story ideas, and noticed a line about compensation for someone who had been depatterned at the Allan Memorial Institute. Federal government quietly compensates daughter of brainwashing experiments victim Thompson, who grew up in Montreal and worked for local newspapers, knew the history of the Allan Memorial Institute and was intrigued. She called Montreal lawyer Alan Stein, who has represented numerous survivors of the Allan, and he confirmed that one of his clients, Alison Steel, was the person who received the compensation last year — long after her father first attempted to get compensation in the 1990s. They had reached an out-of-court settlement with the Canadian justice department in exchange for dropping the lawsuit, and Steel had to sign a non-disclosure agreement. The recent CBC News articles and The Fifth Estate documentary Brainwashed led to a flood of emails from victims and their families. People wanted to know how to access medical records and compensation, and more than anything they wanted to connect with each other. Steel agreed to talk with them so The Fifth Estate sent along their emails. Trudeau government gag order in CIA brainwashing case silences victims, lawyer says "For awhile there I was receiving two or three calls per day," Steel says. "People didn't want to talk about it, but now they are realizing that so many others are in the same boat." At the meeting, Steel was overwhelmed that everyone had finally come together. Last February, they organized a private Facebook group and came up with a name. They created SAAGA, with the goal of seeking justice, a public apology and compensation. Help in launching class-action suit SAAGA announced at the Sunday meeting that Stein has agreed to assist the group in launching a class-action lawsuit to sue the Canadian government, maybe also the Quebec government and the Allan Memorial Institute. It would first have to be approved by the Quebec Superior Court, which could take four to six months, Stein said. In an email, the Justice Department told CBC News that a 1986 inquiry by George Cooper into Cameron's depatterning work "concluded that Canada did not hold any legal liability or moral responsibility in respect of these treatments." "As this matter may be before the courts it would be inappropriate to comment further." The Fifth Estate began exposing wrongdoing at the Allan Memorial Institute in 1980 and continues to follow this story. We are in the process of building a website where we will gather together the stories of patients who underwent the brainwashing experiments, and their families. -- http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/project-mkultra-families-meet-1.4662321 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/project-mkultra-families-meet-1.4662321) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: udik235 on May 22, 2018, 05:48:22 PM this is a gradual process, for example homosexuality, bunudiri bombs Most tv shows and movies have gay characters in it, They want us to see it as normal as far as we accept as the norm in our society. but it will not happen.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Aqua Man on May 22, 2018, 08:53:38 PM Secularism doesn't have room for brainwashing Because it's required to change it's position on finding new facts. Unlike religions who refuse to challenge their own ideas 'because holy book/person said so'. Brainwashing happens when you refuse to accept outside information as true, even if it has been proved to be. My European/Western society doesn't do that, theocracies do. Yes there are still some problems in the West, but I wouldn't call it brainwashing . I live in Europe and here it's brainwashing all the time from LGBT, Dawkins and other religios figures shown in media all the time Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Johnzky on May 22, 2018, 11:20:55 PM Saving money for a nice product can be a goal :) Not only by product,even in future needs specially if you are a family person saving money is the most appropriate way to make your love ones liveTitle: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: expertofexperts on May 23, 2018, 06:30:21 AM Brainwashed to make sure we dont ask questions. Just that we only get limited to our society and life. We life few years and and go away and powerful surveive without issues.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Chint_82 on May 23, 2018, 06:31:32 AM if we think it is our life, we are the ones who determine, we have the right to reject the invitation that would burden our feelings and our lives, even though what happens we must have an attitude that will make our hearts calm with our circumstances, every problem there is a solution, and we who are entitled to determine their own
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: LaTishaLaToya on May 23, 2018, 01:28:26 PM Yes, every day.
We are brainwashed by media, politicians, journalists, religion etc. People are bombarded with too much information and they can't understand any more what is truth and what is lie. For the most people it has become more comfortable to simply believe to the authorities, from the religion, state, media than to do own research and find out what is real truth. It's sad reality. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 23, 2018, 02:39:48 PM Yes, every day. We are brainwashed by media, politicians, journalists, religion etc. People are bombarded with too much information and they can't understand any more what is truth and what is lie. For the most people it has become more comfortable to simply believe to the authorities, from the religion, state, media than to do own research and find out what is real truth. It's sad reality. https://i.imgur.com/6dUog5X.jpg. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Anaviscacam on May 24, 2018, 11:56:58 AM It's because of the laundry detergents. All those laundry detergents - Tide, Gain, All, even Foca - are week. Therefore our brains don't become clean when they are washed. So, we walk around with the same old soiled thoughts.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on May 24, 2018, 03:26:44 PM It's because of the laundry detergents. All those laundry detergents - Tide, Gain, All, even Foca - are week. Therefore our brains don't become clean when they are washed. So, we walk around with the same old soiled thoughts. Actually... Vaccines often contain a detergent. Often one know as tween-80. It has the effect of allowing things to penetrate the blood/brain barrier since this structure relies on lipid layers (fats.) Apparently a decent portion of the nano sized aluminum particles used (purportedly) for it's adjuvant function in vaccines ends up within the brain tissue. A 'tinfoil hat' worn outside of the cranium is supposed by some to attenuate electromagnetic radiation before it enters the brain. The same hat shredded into fine dust and embedded within the neuron cells of the brain probably does function differently. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Funmmi2 on May 24, 2018, 07:10:25 PM Secularism doesn't have room for brainwashing Because it's required to change it's position on finding new facts. Unlike religions who refuse to challenge their own ideas 'because holy book/person said so'. Brainwashing happens when you refuse to accept outside information as true, even if it has been proved to be. My European/Western society doesn't do that, theocracies do. Yes there are still some problems in the West, but I wouldn't call it brainwashing . Yeah I share same thoughts with you,brainwashing is common in religious institutions, where followers are misled to abandon reason for gullibility.I see a lot of religious people engage in acts that questions their sanity,simply because over a long period of time they have been brainwashed.some are misled to think that when they take a life in the name of religion they will be surely blessed some are misled to believe that when they sell their property and donate to charity they will become rich.some are brainwashed to abandon their family for religious services .in all these I see an inner search to fill the emptiness of the soul.Another form of brainwashing is the paradigm that a man must bear all the responsibilities of the family while the wife contributes nothing.in all these each individual is responsible for his own actions and should be allowed to bear the consequences. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: gledit on May 25, 2018, 01:23:56 AM 'Brainwashed' - is a very verbose, broad term
- Having spent part of my university business degree in the UK, in sociology; I think i may be qualified to comment from a reasonably informed platform. -In my opinion, it all comes down to data provided. Information. Datasets. The origins, of said data and the individual's interpretation of such. Without doubt, there is a conscious effort to influence public opinion via media outlets, etc. Sg. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on May 25, 2018, 06:05:24 AM 'Brainwashed' - is a very verbose, broad term - Having spent part of my university business degree in the UK, in sociology; I think i may be qualified to comment from a reasonably informed platform. -In my opinion, it all comes down to data provided. Information. Datasets. The origins, of said data and the individual's interpretation of such. Without doubt, there is a conscious effort to influence public opinion via media outlets, etc. Sg. Got a term for sombody who has fallen victim to multiple salacious influences from those who would influence public opinion? When the background and ethnicity of those preoccupied with "optics", those who would salaciously influence the public to further their criminal enterprise are identified, is there a common theme? Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ygapophysis on June 03, 2018, 08:25:46 AM Secularism doesn't have room for brainwashing Because it's required to change it's position on finding new facts. Unlike religions who refuse to challenge their own ideas 'because holy book/person said so'. Brainwashing happens when you refuse to accept outside information as true, even if it has been proved to be. My European/Western society doesn't do that, theocracies do. Yes there are still some problems in the West, but I wouldn't call it brainwashing .
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: azulchzwang on June 03, 2018, 08:53:24 AM You're brainwashing your self! As children and still as adults we are told to follow our dream and when we become of age only we can decide for our selves what to believe, what religion to follow if any or who to vote for as an example. Those who believe brainwashing to be true are allowing it to happen to themselves. Spend less time thinking about how you are being brainwashed and more time on your own choices, that come from you and try not to think what influences it. Brain washing may not be real but influencing is.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: rprimism on June 03, 2018, 03:07:44 PM The mental health system is a complete brainwash. All of the counseling theories teach you to sorta shelve or "manage" the PTSD and look down on it or even try your best to minimize it. Not only does this not work, but they fail to teach you that you can trust the PTSD since its a source of wisdom since it stores all the intense memories you went through. None of the theories teach you to trust this part of yourself. Not only do the theories do no teach it, but I have yet to hear or read anything that advocates trusting these turbulent emotions in my entire 56 years ie. Any literature or anything else. And that was the technique that I came up with that actually helped me heal more than anything else. Until then I was completely suicidal. I refused to do any of the drugs as numbing does not solve or cure anything.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Cheerfulmule on June 04, 2018, 09:20:31 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. No offense bro but Living like Spartacus or being a fearless soldier from the past doesnt mean today is a lot more boring and we lack in purpose. We still have goals. Its just that its not what you hope for, like what you portrayed from the books and from the movies. Its just we live in a more civilized era compared in the last 500 years ago. Having family and being contented and happy is considered a wonderful goal. Maybe,you just feel lonely and you long for something that you still havent found. Are we brainwashed? By media or the world we live in right now. Yeah. Sure. Its true. But we have choices and its all up to you. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: terialize on June 04, 2018, 09:24:38 AM Ever since you have learned to be aware you have been brainwashed. There way of teaching kids is not doing any good! If you do something wrong you get punished or shouted at. If you don't do well on a test you think your not good enough. But if you do what they say you get rewarded with things. The media today. Girls looking online at the perfect body they 'should have' and it's considered what you should look like and they are wondering why they dont. Teenagers will do anything to fit the lines so they feel accepted. Its ridiculous!
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: ASNAKU on June 04, 2018, 01:25:34 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. Not everything is so, I try earnestly to get the capital so I can open my own business, being an entrepreneur is my goal, I hope someday will happen, therefore I am not burdened by this forum, thank you.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: earceny on June 04, 2018, 06:44:21 PM Just a theory, when social media was created, it was made just for the sake of people's fun. Take YouTube as an example, if you check older videos like Leek Spin, you can see they were all mainly just a joke. Old YouTube was all about short videos, and short videos that were worth a laugh. But then later on, it all changed.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: DgurJIupyf on June 04, 2018, 08:21:43 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. You're right, people have no idea in life. Maybe there are short-term ideas, but ordinary people have been enslaved by the world of slavery and credit dependence. It is very sad that few people understand this. And when there are such people in my life, they are offended at all, and complain about everything that happens in life. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: afluence on June 04, 2018, 09:43:38 PM Every cult leader, drill sergeant, self-help guru and politician knows that if you want to quiet all of those pesky doubting thoughts in a crowd, get them to chant a repetitive phrase or slogan. Those are referred to as thought-stopping techniques, because for better or worse, they do exactly that.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 0ur0b0r0us on June 05, 2018, 09:24:44 PM Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on June 05, 2018, 10:57:28 PM Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up. Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits? Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 0ur0b0r0us on June 06, 2018, 10:05:17 PM Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up. Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits? That my friend, is the million dollar question. Who and why? The problem here is that it’s all theories. Who? Could be the wealthy, government, secret societies, aliens etc. Why? Power, greed, control, harnessing our fears as some form of energy etc. All these are just theories and not actual facts. So it’s difficult to find any hard evidence. But I do know that the brainwashing is there. Even with things like google and youtube controlling what content you watch or read, subliminal marketing, to name a few. The brainwashing is there. If you are interested, there are a lot of videos, books and articles that you should check out. It’s a very intriguing read/watch. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on June 07, 2018, 03:54:30 AM Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up. Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits? That my friend, is the million dollar question. Who and why? The problem here is that it’s all theories. Who? Could be the wealthy, government, secret societies, aliens etc. Why? Power, greed, control, harnessing our fears as some form of energy etc. All these are just theories and not actual facts. So it’s difficult to find any hard evidence. But I do know that the brainwashing is there. Even with things like google and youtube controlling what content you watch or read, subliminal marketing, to name a few. The brainwashing is there. If you are interested, there are a lot of videos, books and articles that you should check out. It’s a very intriguing read/watch. https://i.imgur.com/N4aJKlk.png "Who owns the media?" -- Elon Musk Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 0ur0b0r0us on June 07, 2018, 08:03:20 PM Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up. Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits? That my friend, is the million dollar question. Who and why? The problem here is that it’s all theories. Who? Could be the wealthy, government, secret societies, aliens etc. Why? Power, greed, control, harnessing our fears as some form of energy etc. All these are just theories and not actual facts. So it’s difficult to find any hard evidence. But I do know that the brainwashing is there. Even with things like google and youtube controlling what content you watch or read, subliminal marketing, to name a few. The brainwashing is there. If you are interested, there are a lot of videos, books and articles that you should check out. It’s a very intriguing read/watch. https://i.imgur.com/N4aJKlk.png "Who owns the media?" -- Elon Musk Oh man! George Carlin. This guy was definitely aware of his surroundings. A lot of what he says makes sense. It is very sad that the truth has to be masked by humor. Great post my friend! R.I.P Mr. Carlin. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on June 10, 2018, 09:27:06 AM Here's an answer for you, the question of "are we being brainwashed" is a PC way of saying "are we being lied to [by authority]?".
https://i.imgur.com/Z2xEbUM.jpg Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Vod on June 11, 2018, 04:08:39 AM Remember - brainwashing is accepting facts due to repetition.
Anyone who is told over and over again, week after week, the same bullshit about the same imaginary god, is by definition brainwashed. Atheists are brainwashed too - about the multiplication tables and alphabet. :) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: tvbcof on June 11, 2018, 05:20:24 AM Remember - brainwashing is accepting facts due to repetition. Anyone who is told over and over again, week after week, the same bullshit about the same imaginary god, is by definition brainwashed. Could you repeat that? Seriously, most of the successful methods of brainwashing is somewhat more complex than that. In hard-core programs drugs and trauma are used. For general public manipulation (indoctrination, advertising, etc) they seem to rely on an understanding of (what I call) socio-biology. Understanding the various 'flavors' of individual psychology and how to appeal to each. Understanding how human group dynamics evolved and how they function today. Much of it revolves around the fear of alienation which, for most of human history, would be fatal for an individual. A good example of this is how and why the 'conspiracy theory' label program worked so well. If I've not recommended it on this thread already, one of the best vids on Edward Bernays that I've seen is this Adam Curtis piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04) Atheists are brainwashed too - about the multiplication tables and alphabet. :) I never was able to memorize my multiplication tables (though I strenuously avoided trying very hard and eventually got most of them except weird ones like 7x8.) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: godactyl on June 17, 2018, 03:22:16 PM Brainwashing doesn't take any sci-fi gadgetry or Manchurian Candidate hypnotism bullshit. There are all sorts of tried-and-true techniques that anyone can use to bypass the thinking part of your brain and flip a switch deep inside that says "OBEY."
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on June 17, 2018, 07:12:23 PM mind:
I can't help but wonder if Agent Orange (military terminology) a.k.a. Monsanto (now Bayer) RoundUp has any effects that work in tandom with behavioral and cognitive adjustment techniques. Since all goyim (translates to livestock more specifically cows) food now tests positive for this chemical weapon I can't help but wonder if it also targets the mind? https://i.imgur.com/VBFCRGt.gif The BBQ sauce is not kosher! -- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-beer/german-beer-purity-in-question-after-environment-group-finds-weed-killer-traces-idUSKCN0VY222 (http://archive.is/flWkm) edit: You may need to get some Chipolata Away because the military industrial complex leads to a bloody asshole. -- http://drbogner.com/glyphosate-autism-2/ (http://archive.is/Mk5cU) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: fordharrison on June 17, 2018, 07:21:53 PM Absolutely. But you can change the level of washing. As soon as you realise it, its less
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: notbatman on June 17, 2018, 08:04:02 PM body:
Absolutely. But you can change the level of washing. As soon as you realise it, its less Have the GMOs in your diet modified the bacteria in your gut yet, are you RoundUp Ready(tm) goy? https://i.imgur.com/aIeVDDD.jpg "... the court conceded that given the way patent laws are written, even using a small amount of a patented material without authorization could constitute patent infringement. ..." -- https://www.biofortified.org/2015/12/lawsuits-for-inadvertent-contamination/ (http://archive.is/w4PYi) Point being here you're fucking owned and you don't have a choice in the matter. If your wife believes all the lies and she's making you a total cuckold and she has decision making power with powerful calls to her authorities, then it doesn't matter what you think. Your individual rejection of any brainwashing is a drop in the bucket and you'll be punished for denying group consensus of appeal to some authority. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: 93Bitcoiner on July 20, 2018, 03:05:39 AM Brainwashing has nothing to do with goals, it is the process of making people follow ideologies different from their own.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: xena2 on July 20, 2018, 06:24:30 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. yes we are. I think we are. The way we see things depends on who we believe and opinion of others. we tend to understand something with the aid of someone or something not just by the way we see it. I giess we are all brainwashed without even noticing it We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Beli99 on July 20, 2018, 03:19:45 PM Yes i think a lot of people is brainwashed ,because they dont want to know the true facts i think a lot of people only looking for self intersest dont look it at worldwide scale and lot of them get lost in daily job and obligations they dont read to find the truth about world they live in ,because there is a lot of shit going on behind close doors and a lot of them is not aware of that
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Criptomen on July 21, 2018, 06:47:41 PM And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Absolutely right. All to some extent brainwashed. From childhood we are brainwashed by society, parents, mass media, our idols and the school. We are "sheeps" and we are given the minimum conditions to live to produce "wool". Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: emsol on August 06, 2018, 07:48:10 PM Yes we are brainwashed because the word brainwash is to affect one's mind by using extreme mental pressure or any other mind-affecting process.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: Wasp094 on August 06, 2018, 08:08:36 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Your final sentence said it all: Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. That means, people haven't changed in centuries! So, it isn't brainwashing. I'd say it's merely a human nature. I hate to generalize, so I believe it doesn't apply to ALL people, but certain part of humankind are goofy. 8) Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: custard7 on August 06, 2018, 08:47:15 PM This post reminds me of Neil Postman's book, Amusing Ourselves to Death. In it, he argues that television replaced typography (books, essays, newspapers) as the primary and dominant form of discourse and knowledge. But, television is a medium which restricts its content to 30-second blips sandwiched between other disconnected 'now... this' 30 second blips such that all serious topics collapse into a medium optimized for sheer entertainment. Everything from news to education to religion to politics becomes formatted for TV programming, not the other way around. As a result, we turn into brainwashed, entertained zombies a la the OP's aesthetic of fast cars, lots of sex, lots of money. Why wouldn't you -- that's the paradigm of an entertainment-based life.
Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: HarvyDent on August 07, 2018, 06:06:34 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. I guess that depends on your definition of brainwashing. Wikipedia says it's "the concept that the human mind can be altered or controlled by certain psychological techniques and manipulation." To some extent, I think everything we see or hear is altering our minds a little. This would apply to advertising too. We see so many ads every day. They can make us feel like we "need" things that we don't actually need. The fashion industry, for example, has done a pretty good job of making many people think that they need a new wardrobe every season. We're still free to do whatever we want, but we get into habits that are highly influence by the media.We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: dannywhite on August 07, 2018, 07:58:25 AM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. And the reason for this is fairly simple. We're just lazy. We're having such comfortable lifestyles, many things are done for us, technologies protect people from making an attempt on doing ANYTHING that involves DOING. Nothing is actually forcing us to move our asses from our comfort zone. People keep wanting a lot of beautiful things, they want to gain some skills, they want the change but there is only one "doer" in a group of 1000 people. If you want to do something, you have to fight for it and never give up. But when most of them realize that this involves getting burned, being distracted, maybe humiliated, they find excuses to shield themselves and the band of dull and depressed creatures stays the same. Title: Re: Are we brainwashed? Post by: breadwinners on August 07, 2018, 07:51:08 PM I look around and see people no longer have goals. We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction. No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies. In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus. And the reason for this is fairly simple. We're just lazy. We're having such comfortable lifestyles, many things are done for us, technologies protect people from making an attempt on doing ANYTHING that involves DOING. Nothing is actually forcing us to move our asses from our comfort zone. People keep wanting a lot of beautiful things, they want to gain some skills, they want the change but there is only one "doer" in a group of 1000 people. If you want to do something, you have to fight for it and never give up. But when most of them realize that this involves getting burned, being distracted, maybe humiliated, they find excuses to shield themselves and the band of dull and depressed creatures stays the same. Yep, 'lazy' is more appropriate here than 'brainwashed,' I believe. |
