AmoreJaz
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April 19, 2017, 08:29:19 AM |
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Stick with the 1000 first adresses as announced !!!! That was the Airdrop rule.
Noone was supposed to enter his adress after 1000.
You wrote only long after 2000 adresses were entered, that you will try to accept the extra adresses but reality is that it is not possible as you planned.
Moreover, you will have more genuine adresses, because everyone starts with his real IP and adresse, and only after they can develop fake means.
You can be sure that the longer the list, the more fake adresses there are.
If people whine now after saying that is :
- either because they were late.
- or because they have fake adresses and they will lose hours of industrially faking IPs. they don't want a fair distribution.
This is also acceptable. i also agree with this. the first announcement was very well understood and if all the others simply tried to jump in then they already knew they would not be part as per the original announcment |
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yosir
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April 19, 2017, 08:32:29 AM |
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Our website already prevented addresses from the same IP, all addresses submitted were from different IPs.
We don't want to let anyone out, so we are working on a solution and we will update soon.
IP is easy to fake. Bitcointalk user name less so. And the initial plan was for 1000 addresses. You will not be letting anyone out but you will be letting many people in more than one time. Anyway, it's up to you I don't think it would be fair for all those who participated, specially the last ones. Our first approach was to do it here in bitcointalk but as the moderators deleted our Genesis Address Collection thread, we didn't have much options in the short run. Of course IP can be faked (proxies, etc.), but finally all can be faked, even here in bitcointalk one person can hold multiple accounts. To be fair to everyone, we will make sure that all the valid submitted addresses will be included. You can simply ask to resubmit addresses and they should come from same IP again. The fake ones will fail to do so and can be filtered. Also, to be fair with participants, who have dynamic IP, you can whitelist their wallet according to their request ( if someone will try to whitelist 50 addresses of "his friends" you can assume that he is very friendly or...  ). you obviously dont know how dhcp or how 4Glte or 3G network use their distributed ip's. on most home networks the dhcp can change their ip upto a frequency of onece every 12 hours. and depending on the sub contracts of their ISP they can be assigned a 12 hour contract that is completly outside of the ip range used the day before or even less. 4Glte normally used on mobile phones and hot spot devices for laptops can change their ip a couple of times every 15 minutes or so! and the same applies to their IP range, 3G is normally only on mobile /cell phones and this can change 3/4 times an hour with the same ideas of changing the IP range, so if you would ask people to resubmit on the same ip only very few as myself "static IP where mine cannot and will not change the IP " could claim our tokens , all the others would not be able to claim and their ip and their range change frequently and they have no control over them... hmm... "Also, to be fair with participants, who have dynamic IP, you can whitelist their wallet according to their request ( if someone will try to whitelist 50 addresses of "his friends" you can assume that he is very friendly or... ). " BTW, I also have same problem solution to which I proposed in second sentence. |
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tothemooon
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April 19, 2017, 10:31:08 AM |
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Stick with the 1000 first adresses as announced !!!! That was the Airdrop rule.
Noone was supposed to enter his adress after 1000.
You wrote only long after 2000 adresses were entered, that you will try to accept the extra adresses but reality is that it is not possible as you planned.
Moreover, you will have more genuine adresses, because everyone starts with his real IP and adresse, and only after they can develop fake means.
You can be sure that the longer the list, the more fake adresses there are.
If people whine now after saying that is :
- either because they were late.
- or because they have fake adresses and they will lose hours of industrially faking IPs. they don't want a fair distribution.
This is also acceptable. Where is this announcement rule that only 1000 first ETH address will be accepted, because i must have miss this. I was following this thread since day 1 and the only announcement i remember is that the airdrop is available to everyone and address collection will be open for 24 hours and that only all address collected within 24 hours will be accepted. Please anyone kindly show me this post. |
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samantadegrenet
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April 19, 2017, 11:06:23 AM |
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So what will be the next move, website or roadmap just to make clear what the development will look like! thanks for any info about it
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yunbgf23
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April 19, 2017, 11:26:11 AM |
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do not spam any more, waiting for DEV's update ,waiting for my coins. nothing else
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kenboy
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April 19, 2017, 04:31:28 PM |
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Our website already prevented addresses from the same IP, all addresses submitted were from different IPs.
We don't want to let anyone out, so we are working on a solution and we will update soon.
IP is easy to fake. Bitcointalk user name less so. And the initial plan was for 1000 addresses. You will not be letting anyone out but you will be letting many people in more than one time. Anyway, it's up to you I don't think it would be fair for all those who participated, specially the last ones. Our first approach was to do it here in bitcointalk but as the moderators deleted our Genesis Address Collection thread, we didn't have much options in the short run. Of course IP can be faked (proxies, etc.), but finally all can be faked, even here in bitcointalk one person can hold multiple accounts. To be fair to everyone, we will make sure that all the valid submitted addresses will be included. Yes, there is no absolute justice |
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denam
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April 19, 2017, 04:45:53 PM |
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do not spam any more, waiting for DEV's update ,waiting for my coins. nothing else
I also will do agree with you better option we have to wait for next announcement I hope dev will come with nice solution. Now they are looking busy to make implement the contract there. |
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josefelix
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April 19, 2017, 05:28:06 PM |
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agree with you guys , to implement everithing take long time, so let dev work fine and one days it will come up with nice solutions!
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April 19, 2017, 05:31:02 PM |
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They mentioned in white paper that the more addresses they will add into smart contract the better it will be. If they didn't know what kind of problem they will face making the code bigger then there need to learn more and be prepare themselves well. People are looking at the updates to know how it will move ahead, so do I.
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minereum (OP)
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April 19, 2017, 06:11:26 PM |
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Update
Hi everyone,
Our analysis is now completed and we are all set to deploy.
The Smart Contract will be deployed somewhere in the next 48 hours.
The coins will be distributed to all Genesis Addresses.
We will update here once the deployment is done.
Stay tuned!
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minereum (OP)
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April 19, 2017, 06:18:07 PM |
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They mentioned in white paper that the more addresses they will add into smart contract the better it will be. If they didn't know what kind of problem they will face making the code bigger then there need to learn more and be prepare themselves well. People are looking at the updates to know how it will move ahead, so do I.
The purpose of requesting for more addresses as possible was to dilute the supply as much as possible, it was not in a technical sense. We did however miss that the ethereum network is still in its early stages and does support such a huge Smart Contract to be deployed. But in any case, this just delayed us for some time, the project itself was not affected. |
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atchoum6760
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April 19, 2017, 06:30:45 PM |
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Great news thanks dev.
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cryptodv
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April 19, 2017, 06:33:15 PM |
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Dev, you need a twitter account ASAP. It'll be better that way on updating us. Cheers.  |
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NrX
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April 19, 2017, 06:41:49 PM |
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Dev, you need a twitter account ASAP. It'll be better that way on updating us. Cheers. Twitter is more effective way to spread the words and keep updated about latest progress. |
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josefelix
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April 19, 2017, 06:44:20 PM |
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Dev, you need a twitter account ASAP. It'll be better that way on updating us. Cheers. Twitter is more effective way to spread the words and keep updated about latest progress. twitter and slack and telegram facebook are so many social account that mnereum need to fix , so it will be easy for many people not just twitter! |
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Angel Di
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April 19, 2017, 06:54:53 PM |
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It would be good to use the Telegram
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cryptodv
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April 19, 2017, 07:41:21 PM |
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Dev, you need a twitter account ASAP. It'll be better that way on updating us. Cheers. Twitter is more effective way to spread the words and keep updated about latest progress. twitter and slack and telegram facebook are so many social account that mnereum need to fix , so it will be easy for many people not just twitter! I just mentioned twitter because it's adopted more. Any form of communication other than this forum would be ideal. I can't be checking this every second waiting for an update. I like the twitter alerts. |
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honghaisea
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April 19, 2017, 10:09:24 PM |
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dev working hard on this project.it going well.telegram and twitter both need now
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robocop3
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April 20, 2017, 12:09:32 AM |
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Update
Hi everyone,
Our analysis is now completed and we are all set to deploy.
The Smart Contract will be deployed somewhere in the next 48 hours.
The coins will be distributed to all Genesis Addresses.
We will update here once the deployment is done.
Stay tuned!
glade to here this,is any plane to list to some exchanges? |
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therealbigcoin
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April 20, 2017, 01:26:07 AM |
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 Dev, you need a twitter account ASAP. It'll be better that way on updating us. Cheers. Twitter is more effective way to spread the words and keep updated about latest progress. twitter and slack and telegram facebook are so many social account that mnereum need to fix , so it will be easy for many people not just twitter! I just mentioned twitter because it's adopted more. Any form of communication other than this forum would be ideal. I can't be checking this every second waiting for an update. I like the twitter alerts. Cheers  |
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