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May 31, 2017, 08:49:36 PM
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people are forgetting what it was like at the end of labour and criticize conservative for making cuts, i was a nurse back in 2005 just before the country was spiraling into debt, not to mention the NHS. The debts were huge, overstaffed wards, people getting paid for nothing, my local trust plummeted into £200 million of debt within 2 years and labours mismanagement of funds caused this. They committed a standard of care that was not financially possible and it ruined the NHS, when conservative came in they had to hire outside accountants and finance companies to get the trusts paying the debt back, which had to involve cuts. All the debt we have today was started with labour, they spent money and gave it away like they had an infinite amount. Then at the end they had the audacity to leave stupid little notes saying "haha the money is all gone". They started the war in iraq and turned a few thousand al qaeda force, into a few million strong isis army with no toleration for anyone in the west. We have labour to thank for this again and jeremy corbyn wants to open our borders and continue letting people in without any back round checks, no proof of who they are, so we have more problems like the rotherham sex scandals, which also a labour mp is giving a character statement to reduce the sentence for a pedophile. I dont like conservative but labour will never get my vote again, they have never apologized for the problems they caused and only insult conservatives for having the clean up the mess labour created. If only the lib dems had a decent leader or a party that spoke sense, i'll probably just not vote, or vote conservative to try stop the despicable act tactical voting.
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I have always voted labour not this time it hurts to vote TORIES   but i may have to so we can have some sort of control over our lives ..

And you was a nurse so you know what your talking about..
BUT harold shipman was a doctor Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..




But you wont have any control over labour, in fact it will only get worse. Labour cannot grasp economics, capitalism or how the world works, they are happy to see the uk to plunge into debt and millions left without jobs just to prove their point. Just look at their top policies, £10 an minimum wage, we will no longer have a service industry, all call centres will close, even going down to local cafes, how will they pay the extra 20% wage? Then there is the corporation tax on top, oh and not lets forget about the fat cat tax, oh and increased taxes all round for businesses. Then when the figures are looked at by impartial economists are proved they are not financially possible. So labour want all our service industries gone, about 20% of the workforce unemployed as that is all the employers will do when they have to pay 20% extra wages just get rid of 20% of workforce or move it abroad. Oh and the end of zero hour contracts, which many businesses need to survive, for busy periods and extra large orders. So a large percentage of the zero hour contract works will be immediately let go and will have to sign on. Then when you have applied all of these taxes which businesses do you think we keep their head offices in this country? they will all move to somewhere cheaper. Foreign investment will grind to a halt as noone will want to open a company in the uk with the worlds highest taxes. Then the amount of businesses that simply wont be able to afford the changes, which will be a large part things like pubs, clubs, cafes, corner shops. These businesses are just struggling by now, how are they going to afford 20% extra wages, business tax, and general tax raise, they wont and all we will get after are stupid little snide notes from labour saying "haha the money is all gone"
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The problem with corrupt politicians is that they are always winning the election. People kept voting for them and that is why they have extended their rule and enjoy spending the governments money. Hoping the upcoming election the voice of the people will speak against corruption and will vote for good political candidates. The only problem left is that almost all politicians who run for government service are all corrupt. UK is doomed.

Corruption is less prevalent in the United Kingdom, when compared to the other nations. The major issue is that, the establishment political parties (Labor, Tories, and the Liberal Democrats) all favor replacing the native British population with the immigrant Muslims.

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June 01, 2017, 05:55:04 PM
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TO THE YOUTH

VOTE LABOUR..

VOTE LABOUR..

EDUCATION EDUCATION FREE FREE FREE..

No debt hanging over your heads ..
If labour fail RICH and POOR will have to pay it back..

Your not alone..WE ARE NOT ALONE Grin

Tories say cuts cuts cuts..

CUTS TO WHO ..THIS?

Britain spends almost as much on foreign aid as it does on Wales
https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../britain-set-to-spend-more-on-foreign-aid-than-on-entire-wa...
6 Apr 2017 - Spending on Wales stood at £13.5billion in 2016, while foreign aid spending soared .

NO THE TORIES Would rather make our own people suffer..
Plus think about this SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF IMMIGRATION..7 Years she was in charge..

Now you think you cut the foreign aid before cutting your own people money?..

Or does the foreign aid really GET STOLEN by our greedy politicians and the cronies?..
SURE LOOKS THAT WAY..

What we give about 2 billion the rest gets STOLEN..<Maybe
Must be because they rather our own people suffer?..

AND WE PAY THIS ..

£93bn of corporate welfare? What nonsense | FT Data - Blogs
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28 Sep 2015 - First of all, the very concept of “corporate welfare” is tricky and ... This sounds more sensible – after all, Serco's total UK revenues for 2014 were ..


AND ALL TO GIVE SOME GREEDY PERSON MORE MONEY...WHY?..

Because the politicians get payed by these people..
And some of them even make there spouse a politician to get what they WANT..

GREEDY HUMANS..^^^..

Don't get me wrong some really nice people who have plenty of cash..
VERY CHARITABLE ^^^..

VOTE LABOUR ..Get YOUR EDUCATION FOR FREE..

Makes no difference WE ARE THE UK and we will one day tell our DEBT collectors to FUCK OFF..
WE THE UK ARE IN DEBT...PISS OFF..

WE ARE PREDATORS ..And we will kill to take it back if we fall foul to DEBT COLLECTORS..

I.E The people who lend countries money..The UK will tell you to FUCK OFF..
And we will have a war to get what we want back..

HUMAN SPECIES..PREDATORS^^^..COUNTRY going to war because they are poor <predators..
And the UK is famous for it.. Cheesy Cheesy..

Well just think a universal income could stop the future madness..

OH and ROBOTS..

People in the bedrooms will make EMP and wipe any robot out..
Just in case the RICH think they get a robot to protect them Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

Or the poor little GENIUS make a ROBOT to smash your robots to bits..
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Labour cannot grasp economics, capitalism or how the world works, they are happy to see the uk to plunge into debt and millions left without jobs just to prove their point.

We're already plunging into debt if you hadn't noticed.  Just because the tories keep bleating on about the absurd notion that they know what the hell they're playing at, doesn't mean they actually do.  The UK is officially the worst-performing advanced economy in the world.  Millions without jobs isn't vastly different to millions coerced into zero-hour contracts which are about as profitable as not having a job at all.  The tories can't grasp economics, only the theft of things that don't belong to them.  They might as well claim that the NHS fell off the back of a lorry in their haste to flog it at bargain basement prices.


£10 an minimum wage, we will no longer have a service industry, all call centres will close

I work in a call centre and can confirm this is just speculation.  With the Q1 profits they announced, they can definitely afford it, even with a workforce of over 300 people (although I'm sure they'd take the opportunity to reduce commission if the base pay is higher, so I probably won't see much difference anyway).


Then there is the corporation tax on top, oh and not lets forget about the fat cat tax, oh and increased taxes all round for businesses.

Corporation tax doesn't seem like a huge issue if you compare it with other countries:


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June 01, 2017, 07:28:48 PM
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VOTE LABOUR                     VOTE LABOUR ..

Do you want to be THIS?..How dare you put our youth in debt to line your own pockets ..

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June 01, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
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While I do think the Labour party is in a bit of a shambles at the moment, I think we should do everything we can to try and get the Tories out right now. So I will be tactically voting Labour in the election even though I don't agree with all their policies.

I mean the Tories are basically in bed with big business, and obviously don't care about the young, poor people of the country. Not to mention their archaic views on encryption, surveillance and recreational drug use. I'm honestly baffled that so many people on a bitcoin forum support them, when Bitcoin is all about freedom from this type of regulation and nanny-state bullshit.

I'm not saying Labour are perfect, but they're a step forwards, whereas keeping that cyborg Theresa fucking May in charge is a step back.
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While I do think the Labour party is in a bit of a shambles at the moment, I think we should do everything we can to try and get the Tories out right now. So I will be tactically voting Labour in the election even though I don't agree with all their policies.

I mean the Tories are basically in bed with big business, and obviously don't care about the young, poor people of the country. Not to mention their archaic views on encryption, surveillance and recreational drug use. I'm honestly baffled that so many people on a bitcoin forum support them, when Bitcoin is all about freedom from this type of regulation and nanny-state bullshit.

I'm not saying Labour are perfect, but they're a step forwards, whereas keeping that cyborg Theresa fucking May in charge is a step back.
I'm honestly baffled that so many people on a bitcoin forum support them..

With the price of bitcoin they have now turned into ASS HOLES Cheesy Cheesy..

So you gone from paper rich ass holes to btc rich ass holes..
But in the end they become RICH ASS HOLES..

So as BITCOIN SAVED ANYONE?..Not really you just past 1 form of rich to another STILL ASS HOLES..
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£10 an minimum wage, we will no longer have a service industry, all call centres will close

I work in a call centre and can confirm this is just speculation.  With the Q1 profits they announced, they can definitely afford it, even with a workforce of over 300 people (although I'm sure they'd take the opportunity to reduce commission if the base pay is higher, so I probably won't see much difference anyway).

Call centers in the Philippines pay around £2 per hour for their workers, and the quality is almost equal to those within the United Kingdom. In addition to that the taxes are also lower in the Philippines. It is just a matter of time, before the "great flight" begins.

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June 03, 2017, 09:55:11 PM
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Despite starting with a 21 point gap in the polls, it might now be down to just a single point between the two leading parties according to the latest polls.  With less than a week to go, many are now predicting a hung parliament, with no single party achieving a decisive majority.  

The only reason the tories called the election was because they thought it was a done deal and they could potentially increase their majority, but now it's likely they're actually going to lose seats.  Also, a tory MP has finally been charged with election fraud, accused of falsely declaring expenses in the previous election.  Took the CPS long enough, but at least it will hopefully ruin his campaign.

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June 04, 2017, 09:27:53 AM
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£10 an minimum wage, we will no longer have a service industry, all call centres will close

I work in a call centre and can confirm this is just speculation.  With the Q1 profits they announced, they can definitely afford it, even with a workforce of over 300 people (although I'm sure they'd take the opportunity to reduce commission if the base pay is higher, so I probably won't see much difference anyway).

Call centers in the Philippines pay around £2 per hour for their workers, and the quality is almost equal to those within the United Kingdom. In addition to that the taxes are also lower in the Philippines. It is just a matter of time, before the "great flight" begins.

I think they are higher quality actually, but yeah i give it 1 year if labour wins before all the major companies move their head offices out of the uk and stop paying any tax to the uk at all, i know i'll be closing my business and just running it off the books, will also be having to fire my apprentice, he's due to be qualified this summer and i was going to offer him a job after, but if the wages are going to £10 i simply cant afford it. And to the other guy, i can afford to shop in house of fraiser, but i dont as i would spend most my money, just like these companies, they could pay the extra wages, or just move to somewhere like the Philippines and save 80%, i know what i would choose if i owned any big business, after all the tax and ni contributions also go up 20%, they wont pay it. It will be easier, cheaper, better service for moving it abroad, while having to deal with less taxes, less regulation, less working laws, and the joy for having all this extra freedom, 50% reduced operating costs, the great company migration will start soon, you will have seen nothing like it before
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June 04, 2017, 09:37:49 AM
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Despite starting with a 21 point gap in the polls, it might now be down to just a single point between the two leading parties according to the latest polls.  Many are now predicting a hung parliament, with no single party achieving a decisive majority. 
Labour have pulled off a top-notch election campaign and Corbyn's vote share will undoubtedly be higher than Miliband's pathetic 30% or so in 2015 which would stop people from avoiding voting Labour because they're "unelectable"...

That said, it's far too easy to overestimate the number of young people which will actually go and vote.  The Tories' vote share tend to be more "reliable" voters so to speak, and they've just received a big boost from UKIP (expelled Tories who were too evil even for them).  Labour's vote share could be pushed either side of the margin of error.

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The only reason the tories called the election was because they thought it was a done deal and they could potentially increase their majority, but now it's likely they're actually going to lose seats.  Also, a tory MP has finally been charged with election fraud, accused of falsely declaring expenses in the previous election.  Took the CPS long enough, but at least it will hopefully ruin his campaign.
The entire Conservative Party should be fucked from these electoral fraud allegations, but it looks like they're managing to cling on without enough publicity even happening due to the bastards in the Murdoch press and Daily Mail.  I don't think it'll have too much of an impact for now.

If you vote for any party other than Tories you will be supporting Islamists.

Everyone who is not Muslim MUST vote Tories.  There is no other party to slow down the Islamization.


Yeah, the Iraq, Syria and Libya wars have done so much to help stem the flow of terrorism haven't they?  The West have been so altruistic when pointlessly switching sides and fighting everyone at once, haven't they?  Don't try to convince yourself that 1.6 billion people are terrorists, which is clearly what you mean by "Islamization".

Do you even know what Muslims coming to the West as refugees are running away from?  It's a mixture of terrorism against them from "Muslims" (since the biggest victims of terrorism are Muslims by far), and terrorism from the West.

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June 04, 2017, 10:06:53 AM
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If you vote for any party other than Tories you will be supporting Islamists.

Everyone who is not Muslim MUST vote Tories.  There is no other party to slow down the Islamization.

I can only assume you weren't paying attention earlier in the thread when I was explaining to popcorn1 how the tories' record is on immigration is apparently a figment of your vivid imagination.  The reality doesn't even bear the slightest resemblance to the picture you paint.  I'm completely indifferent to the "issue", but if you're one of those intolerant types who can't handle a little diversity, May definitely isn't your preferred candidate:

And before you decide to start waffling on about immigration again, because I know you can't help it, you should know that when Theresa May was Home Secretary, she ended up overseeing the biggest migration surge in UK history:

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Do you know which home secretary oversaw the highest levels of net migration in UK history?

It was Theresa May, who in 2010 promised the electorate that she would cut net migration to below 100,000, but instead allowed the biggest inwards migration surge in history, with net migration peaking at a huge 336,000 shortly before she was appointed as Prime Minister by her Tory chums.

You might be inclined to disbelieve me because you haven't heard much about this in the media, but there are reasons you haven't heard it. Last year, under pressure from Theresa May's allies in the Tory party the Daily Telegraph spiked an excoriating article about Theresa May's track record at the Home Office.

There are people who really don't want you to know how badly Theresa May handled the immigration situation when it was her remit, and they're the same kind of people who spread lies and misrepresentations about Labour's immigration policies too aren't they?

Theresa May's immigration policy is arbitrary and stupid

Politicians plucking arbitrary numbers out of thin air and making that number their golden objective is as old as the hills. Tony Blair and Gordon Brown did it with their ridiculous 3% borrowing golden rule (you know the rule that drove the expansion of rip-off PFI economic alchemy schemes and was quickly jettisoned to lob £billions at the insolvent "too big to fail" banks).

Theresa May's 100,000 target wasn't just an arbitrary and ridiculous objective that drove lamentable policies, she ended up overseeing the biggest migration surge in UK history.

Two of the dreadful policies Theresa May introduced to try to repress immigration ended up driving away economically beneficial migrants like university students and tens of thousands of non-EU citizens who are married to UK citizens,

Driving away university students in order to juke the immigration statistics has seriously harmed UK universities because foreign students are a massive net benefit to the UK economy. International students contribute £25 billion to the UK economy and support some 200,000 jobs.

Using discriminatory rules to force tens of thousands of British families into exile because one of the adults is a non-EU citizen is also ridiculous. Only an intense bigot would try to argue that migrants who are married to a British citizen are the kind of people the government should be clamping down on. If they're married to a Brit they're highly likely to speak English, assimilate well into British culture, work and pay tax in the UK, and stay here instead of taking their earnings out of the country to return to their country of origin like a lot of migrant workers do.

Despite cruelly wrecking the lives of tens of thousands of families and damaging UK universities with her dreadfully ill-considered immigration policies Theresa May still missed her arbitrary 100,000 target by miles, becoming the Home Secretary who let in more migrants than any other Home Secretary in history!

She set a stupid arbitrary target, introduced terrible policies to try to achieve it, and spectacularly failed by her own measure of success.



What people tend to forget is that 'trickle down economics' is an insipid lie.  Money flows from the poorest at the bottom of the pyramid up to the wealthiest at the top.  The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, so immigration is a useful tool for those who worship the neoliberal doctrine to import some fresh debt-slaves once you've completely drained the existing ones.  Despite the tories' numerous claims to the contrary, they have absolutely no interest in curbing immigration.  There's money to steal and they need as many people as possible to feed into the machine.  But they also blame the migrants for the fact that there's no money, despite the fact that migrants aren't to blame.

Plus, as others have already pointed out, the war-mongering tories aren't exactly going to bring stability to the world stage when they're too busy exporting arms to Syria, Saudi Arabia and anywhere else it might be profitable.  Even if there are consequences to pay later.  Not to mention being more than happy to play lap-dog to Trump in bombing anywhere and everywhere that absolutely doesn't need any further escalation of tensions.  Each person you kill on foreign soil exponentially increases the risk of a bereaved and pissed off family member becoming radicalised and committing an atrocity closer to home.  And you're stupid enough to blame an religion of innocent bystanders when it's actually your own fault for openly encouraging that exact scenario to happen?  What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

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June 04, 2017, 12:42:33 PM
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£10 an minimum wage, we will no longer have a service industry, all call centres will close

I work in a call centre and can confirm this is just speculation.  With the Q1 profits they announced, they can definitely afford it, even with a workforce of over 300 people (although I'm sure they'd take the opportunity to reduce commission if the base pay is higher, so I probably won't see much difference anyway).

Call centers in the Philippines pay around £2 per hour for their workers, and the quality is almost equal to those within the United Kingdom. In addition to that the taxes are also lower in the Philippines. It is just a matter of time, before the "great flight" begins.
And to the other guy, i can afford to shop in house of fraiser, but i dont as i would spend most my money, just like these companies, they could pay the extra wages, or just move to somewhere like the Philippines and save 80%
There will always be huge tax evasion/avoidance schemes, but UK corporation tax is one of the lowest in the G20 already.  Average corporation tax has been falling and falling as all countries, especially the UK, delude themselves into believing that companies will all just run off.  I don't know when it's going to happen but it sure hasn't yet.

Pretending that all Labour's plans are somehow unaffordable is ridiculous.  The Attlee government nationalised the coal industry, Bank of England, health service (created the NHS), electricity, cable and wireless networks, trains/rail, waterways, gas and the steel industry.  They even created zero unemployment, only had six years, and ran a surplus.

Why do people act like all these things are impractical today?

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June 04, 2017, 12:57:52 PM
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If Corbyn becomes the Prime Minister, then it is going to be a disaster not just to the United Kingdom, but also to the whole world. After the election of Emmanuel Macron as the French president, we don't need another pro-ISIS figure heading a major European country.
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June 04, 2017, 01:40:57 PM
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What happened to there's no need to call a snap election and all that bullshit about creating instability? How things change like that.
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June 04, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
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Despite starting with a 21 point gap in the polls, it might now be down to just a single point between the two leading parties according to the latest polls.  Many are now predicting a hung parliament, with no single party achieving a decisive majority. 
Labour have pulled off a top-notch election campaign and Corbyn's vote share will undoubtedly be higher than Miliband's pathetic 30% or so in 2015 which would stop people from avoiding voting Labour because they're "unelectable"...

That said, it's far too easy to overestimate the number of young people which will actually go and vote.  The Tories' vote share tend to be more "reliable" voters so to speak, and they've just received a big boost from UKIP (expelled Tories who were too evil even for them).  Labour's vote share could be pushed either side of the margin of error.

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The only reason the tories called the election was because they thought it was a done deal and they could potentially increase their majority, but now it's likely they're actually going to lose seats.  Also, a tory MP has finally been charged with election fraud, accused of falsely declaring expenses in the previous election.  Took the CPS long enough, but at least it will hopefully ruin his campaign.
The entire Conservative Party should be fucked from these electoral fraud allegations, but it looks like they're managing to cling on without enough publicity even happening due to the bastards in the Murdoch press and Daily Mail.  I don't think it'll have too much of an impact for now.

If you vote for any party other than Tories you will be supporting Islamists.

Everyone who is not Muslim MUST vote Tories.  There is no other party to slow down the Islamization.


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Under the Tories we have terror in our land ..
Under labour we have none..

Now to me it looks like the London elite like to play games with the poor ..

They want more terror so they have an excuse to watch us all ..
I don't no why they don't just say we want to stick a bug up every ones ass..

So the ELITE can rob our taxes and be protected because they know we know we are getting ROBBED by the London ELITE..

Always more police in LONDON always more of everything in London..

I think to myself the only thing London needs is a big wall around it and they can play the
HUNGER GAMES with the poor peoples.. Cheesy

THE TORIES ARE RATS..

They lie lie lie lie lie ..And tell everyone OH yes we are putting money into this.. Roll Eyes

BAD LIARS..THE NASTY PARTY..

Theresa may was in charge of immigration FOR 7 YEARS ..
And under the TORIES we have had many many terror attacks..

This is who is in power tell me the difference ..

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THIS IS ALL THE LONDON ELITE PLAYING GAMES..

You don't BOMB A NATION and invite the enemy to your lands and then give them no money..

MANY MANY ISLAMS threw into a little town to be forgotten ..

But they don't forget ..Your Bombing there native lands PLUS making them suffer with no good job..

And the government KNOWS QUITE WELL if you put that together WE HAVE TROUBLE..

THESE RICH ELITE ..Are way to greedy..

ALSO RICHARD BRANSON..  You go on about pollution and saving the EARTH
IT'S YOU who is POLLUTING it the WORST you DOUGHNUT ..

You are flying around in your ROCKETS and planes and you own an ISLAND not a little home in a street using little electricity YOUR burning more FUEL than any FUCKER..

IT'S YOU ELITE who are the TERRORIST ..

You terrorise everyone for money or our taxes..

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June 04, 2017, 04:26:48 PM
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Tories are pro muslim af_newbie.

And not all muslims are terrorist.

Sorry to pop your bubble :/

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June 04, 2017, 05:16:21 PM
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I wanted to vote for UKIP, but I don't have a candidate in my constituency.

May is a remainer who was appointed as a manchurian candidate.
Labour is in cloud fantasy land.
The greens are misguided and messing up the environment
The lib dems are another party that is divorced from reality

We voted for a clean Brexit, and nobody is prepared to give this to us. It seems every party wants to keep us in the Keiser Reich while it strips us of out assets, and then cast us out like Greece.

I making a protest vote for a small part with only 3 candidates, and which is unlikely to get more than a couple of hundred votes. If it gets over 1,000, then maybe that could be another wake up call to the politicians. I wanted to register the domain name polly-ticks.com, because they are all clockwork parrots.

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June 04, 2017, 06:04:32 PM
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Tories are pro muslim af_newbie.

And not all muslims are terrorist.

Sorry to pop your bubble :/

They are better than the Labour party.  UKIP or EDL are much better choices to expel Muslims from the UK, but they will not win.
Right now Tories are the only option.  Conservatives in Canada, Republicans in the US.  Even if you are a democrat/liberal you should vote conservative/republican if
you care about your daughters being raped and your sons knifed to death.

Islamism and Jihadism should be criminalized.

Muslims can pray 10 times a day, nobody gives a fuck.  When they bring Sharia Law and want us to accept their values, we have a problem.



yeaaaaaaaaaaah
Let's all vote for the parties that bomb the Middle East!
It can't go wrong at all!!
Bomb the Middle East then close the borders! Nothing can go wrong here!

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June 04, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
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Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.   Roll Eyes


If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

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