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April 18, 2017, 10:52:35 AM
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BREAKING NEWS:

Why am I only reading just now, the day before the election, that both London attacker Rachid Redouane and Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber fought in the 2011 British/NATO war against Gaddafi?

People are now saying that they were both recruited by MI5 to fight in Libya and Syria.  The reason that being frequently reported to the PREVENT program did nothing is because they weren't on a watchlist, they were on our own government's payroll!

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It’s little wonder that just one day before the general election, Theresa May has gone camera shy. Theresa May is hiding from questions by journalists about her activities as Home Secretary which saw the recruitment of British Jihadis by MI5 to fight in Libya and Syria and who were given freedom of movement and funding to come in and out of the UK as they pleased. Hiding from questions about her selling Billions of pounds of weaponry to Saudi Arabia, the biggest supplier of weapons to ISIS. Hiding from questions about cutting military personnel by 35,000, police numbers by 20,000 and firefighters by 10,000.

"A London attacker and UK covert operations in Syria and Libya. The Telegraph reports that London attacker Rachid Redouane fought in the 2011 British/NATO war against Qadafi – as did Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber – and joined a militia which went on to send jihadist fighters to Syria. In Libya, he is believed to have fought with the Liwa al Ummah unit.
http://markcurtis.info/2017/06/07/a-london-attacker-and-uk-covert-operations-in-syria-and-libya/#_ftn1

"'Sorted' by MI5: How UK government sent British-Libyans to fight Gaddafi"
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sorted-mi5-how-uk-government-sent-british-libyans-fight-gaddafi-1219906488

"TERROR IN BRITAIN: WHAT DID THE PRIME MINISTER KNOW?"
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know

"British Libyans and Libyan exiles in Britain, who saw their “control orders” lifted and their passports returned by MI5 six years ago so they could go and fight Gaddafi were never going to turn into sober citizens the day after his fall. Just as the link is undeniable between the perpetrators of 9/11 and the US and Saudi backing for Jihadis fighting the Communists in Afghanistan in the 1980s, so too is the connection between the Manchester bombing and the British Government using Salafi-jihadis from the UK to get rid of Gaddafi."
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/30/we-cant-britainbecome-a-vast-isis-recruiting-station/


WHAT.  THE.  ACTUAL.  SHIT?

If there turns out to be even the slightest hint of truth to this, we are absolutely NOT SAFE under Theresa May!



A fact-checked and sourced list of 33 reasons to vote for anyone but the tories on the 8th June



"Prime Minister Theresa May has called for a general election in the United Kingdom in a bid to cement her party's grip on power".

Considering we still haven't really reached any resolution of the previous election's corruption and fraud committed by the Tories, plus the allegations of attempting to gerrymander results by rigging boundary changes to benefit the Tories and quietly knocking 800,000 potential voters off the electoral roll, what do we make of this?

I don't know how anyone could vote for these disgusting criminals.  Literal scum.  Not to mention hypocrites:



I hope this election makes her eat those words.


//EDIT:  

Also, here are some things you should know if you plan to vote tory.  

Also, also, May sets to personally profit from Brexit in clear and blatant conflict of interest.

Also x3, £5 million illegally laundered via HSBC and IPGL Ltd into tory party funding.

x4, Top tory donor Lycamobile raided and 9 charged with tax fraud and money landering.

x5, tory donors linked to offshore tax havens.

x6 Theresa May conveniently still can't find 114 "lost" files implicating members of her party in decades of child abuse.

x7 Cash for access scandals.

x8 May plans to spend £10 Billion of your money to facilitate a mass sell-off of your NHS

x9 Tory MP finally charged with election fraud after a misdeclaration of expenses in the previous election.

x10 British-manufactured weapons sold by tories to Saudi Arabia used in war crimes.

More abuses to be added as they're found.

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April 18, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
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Corrupt politicians urged to vote for brexit, and now do not know what decision to make. It seems to me that early elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for the consequences of brexit on the other.
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April 18, 2017, 11:05:39 AM
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Corrupt politicians urged to vote for brexit, and now do not know what decision to make. It seems to me that early elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for the consequences of brexit on the other.

And not just Brexit.  Now that the Tories have sold off vast swathes of the NHS and made sure they've provided as little funding as possible for what little remains, they can also shift responsibility for that mess.   

They pretty much have a win-win situation going on.  If they win, they can keep wrecking the country and profiteering while they do it.  If they lose, they can blame whoever wins the election for not being able to sort out the shambles they created.  It's not looking good for the future of Britain, despite the tories' insidious "all in this together" rhetoric.

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April 18, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
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If only there was an opposition that wasn't made up of pathetic donkeys. I really can't remember a time when our politics were as chaotic and amateurish as they are now.
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April 18, 2017, 08:49:39 PM
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If only there was an opposition that wasn't made up of pathetic donkeys. I really can't remember a time when our politics were as chaotic and amateurish as they are now.

My hope is that this surprise announcement acts as a call to arms and maybe the opposition get their act together and actually try fighting the tories for a change, instead of fighting each other.  There's also a chance that some of the tory candidates standing in this election might even be arrested during the campaign, so that's nice. 


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April 18, 2017, 09:47:40 PM
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If your constituency isn't listed, just vote for someone who isn't a tory (or a kipper, as those are basically tories too).

My constituency is hideously Conservative and the last Lib Dem they rolled out looked about 13.

I think it's going to be a second opportunity for Brexiters to ram it home no matter what. All politicians from all sides have totally fucked us.
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April 19, 2017, 01:40:27 AM
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Corrupt politicians urged to vote for brexit, and now do not know what decision to make. It seems to me that early elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for the consequences of brexit on the other.

No. The corrupt politicians were urging for the voters to reject Brexit. But the voters had enough of the EU association, and they voted for an exit from the European Union. Theresa May just did what was needed.

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April 19, 2017, 01:47:45 AM
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If only there was an opposition that wasn't made up of pathetic donkeys. I really can't remember a time when our politics were as chaotic and amateurish as they are now.

Kinda sad but this is very true.

Big thing is here is that this is politics and this is how it all works, if they feel they'd be able to get more seats now then in 2020 then they'll push for an election now. They have probably even thought about all the heat in which they'll take if they do this and they have figured out it's the right decision to make for the party. Only the lord knows if it's the right thing for the party but they don't care about that.


Opposition won't hold much of a fight, sucks but it's something that is true and must be said.




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Corrupt politicians urged to vote for brexit, and now do not know what decision to make. It seems to me that early elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for the consequences of brexit on the other.

No. The corrupt politicians were urging for the voters to reject Brexit. But the voters had enough of the EU association, and they voted for an exit from the European Union. Theresa May just did what was needed.

I'd argue there were plenty of corrupt politicians on both sides of the debate.  Most MPs have a fairly hefty shareholding in various sectors and I can't help but suspect there was a conflict of interest there, which would have swayed which side of the debate they fell on.  Anyone with shares in an industry or sector that would benefit from a hefty dose of deregulation would have been voting leave, because ultimately, I suspect that's the true reason for Brexit.  The easily led public think it's about borders, immigration and sovereignty, but the people with the money know they can take a steaming liquid shit over things like workers rights and public safety to save £££ without the legislation that protects the general public.  When living standards fall and the levels of immigration remain constant to how they are currently, everyone who voted for it will see they got duped (again).




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No. The corrupt politicians were urging for the voters to reject Brexit. But the voters had enough of the EU association, and they voted for an exit from the European Union. Theresa May just did what was needed.

But the 'politicians' who did persuade people to vote out recanted on the factoids they used to lure voters and are now running around like headless chickens on the road to nowhere.
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Theresa May as romped home i have always voted labour not this time ..
she will get my vote SO WE CAN LEAVE THE EU.. Grin

Dream on if you think the brexiters wont vote for THERESA MAY..

Also regardless if she does good or bad it's only 2 years longer anyway..
She would of been in until 2020 .So if she does bad she will be out 2022.

BUT AT LEAST WE GET THE BREXIT..No stalling with Mrs May..
The other parties would of been stalling for years and years hoping we would all forget..
NO CHANCE..

VOTE Mrs MAY EVERYONE..What's 2 MORE YEARS?.

BUT AT LEAST WE RULE OUR OWN LAND ...GREAT BRITAIN the people who rule.

And we when we voted brexit we got told if we are out we are out NO SINGLE MARKET..
So please stop saying we never knew what we voted for..

VOTE Mrs MAY ..

THE REAMONERS will try every trick in the book..

We must vote for Mrs May if we want BREXIT..And i mean OUT..
If the EU tries to take advantage of the uk we walk..

AND NO FREE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE..NO WAY.

Then on 2022 I will decide which party i want to take me and my family into the FUTURE..
But at least Corbyn will be OUT.

Nice man and all BUT so stupid he would let everyone in and run up DEBT so much it would KILL US..

Also more MOSQUES would be on every street Cheesy

So in 2022 a new labour leader plus if Mrs may does good she might get my vote again..

So just because of a 2 year wait i will have a better choice in POLITICS..

WIN WIN WIN..

Corbyn TOTAL IDIOT .We would have no NUKES and it makes me sleep better at night knowing we have them..

SO EVERYONE VOTE FOR MRS MAY..
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What's 2 MORE YEARS?.

Considering that the Tories usually manage to sell off around £2.1 billion in NHS contracts to the private sector in the space of a year, 2 more years of Maggie May is far more privatisation than I'd like to see.  I assume the future you want to take your family into doesn't include healthcare free at the point of need?  I hope they frack under your house, too.

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What's 2 MORE YEARS?.

Considering that the Tories usually manage to sell off around £2.1 billion in NHS contracts to the private sector in the space of a year, 2 more years of Maggie May is far more privatisation than I'd like to see.  I assume the future you want to take your family into doesn't include healthcare free at the point of need?  I hope they frack under your house, too.
Daughter might go in the medical profession so she will be getting big pay days  Grin.
gifted in school unlike me  Cheesy.

See my life was a street child PARENTS useless always fighting i was never in school..
My child never ever stays off school always in unless very sick and the school know it..

Now if corbyn wins i know my daughters job chances will be out the window .
Like corbyn wants every child to be the same BUT not every child is the same ..
Some are way smarter than others so why HOLD THEM BACK..
Like my daughter is way way smarter than i ever was in school so why hold her back.?

The right to buy homes will go under corbyn and i want my child to have the right to buy..

corbyn is so nice the world will WALK ALL OVER HIM..And he will DESTROY the UK..
NO THANK YOU..

I hope they frack under your house,..Makes no difference to me HGV vehicles go past my house every 5 mins..Plus my water has blue bits in it and sometimes goes brown or white  Cheesy..

So i think i am dead from cancer anyway Cheesy.
I drink bottled water..

Does anyone remember ONLY FOOLS AND HORSES ..
Del boy with his bottled water idea and everyone LAUGHED .Not laughing NOW Wink.

2 more year wait won't make a difference and i cannot have corbyn as my leader never ever..
and the liberals No chance .

WE WANT OUT AND THE ONLY WAY IS MRS MAY..I thinks you never know she might do a u turn
remember she wanted to stay in the EU.
So she might con us ALL.. It would be no surprise ..We all Know politicians?.

Then 2 years later i will vote UKIP if she betrays us..
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What's 2 MORE YEARS?.

Considering that the Tories usually manage to sell off around £2.1 billion in NHS contracts to the private sector in the space of a year, 2 more years of Maggie May is far more privatisation than I'd like to see.  I assume the future you want to take your family into doesn't include healthcare free at the point of need?  I hope they frack under your house, too.

The NHS is still in pretty good shape, but in future there will be some strain due to the population ageing. On top of that, unlimited immigration of third world immigrants have put additional pressure on the NHS. Nothing is guaranteed in the future.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/labour-not-trying-win-general-election-senior-mp-admits-least/

And check this. It does feel a little like we've been in a parallel universe the last few months and it's not letting up.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/labour-not-trying-win-general-election-senior-mp-admits-least/

And check this. It does feel a little like we've been in a parallel universe the last few months and it's not letting up.
Half of the "New Labour" MPs seem to just want the Tories to win.  It's just a self-fulfilling prophecy - they say that Labour is unelectable and then basically argue that they shouldn't be elected because they're unelectable, and in turn that stops them getting elected.  Very confusing.

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there are lots of things wrong with the tories but they are the only sensible choice when put up against the marxist supporter of the ira corbyn. a bit disappointed they wont commit to cutting foreign aid when they'd have nothing to lose and it would be well received by the electorate, over half which supports either them or ukip according to all the recent polls.

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there are lots of things wrong with the tories but they are the only sensible choice when put up against the marxist supporter of the ira corbyn. a bit disappointed they wont commit to cutting foreign aid when they'd have nothing to lose and it would be well received by the electorate, over half which supports either them or ukip according to all the recent polls.

Tories are just like the rabid left-wing labor party. They also want the native population of Great Britain replaced with the unwashed immigrant hordes from the third world nations such as Bangladesh and Pakistan. Earlier, there was a real choice for the British people - the BNP. But that party has disintegrated in to oblivion now.

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Earlier, there was a real choice for the British people - the BNP. But that party has disintegrated in to oblivion now.

And with good reason.  Because it was a choice that most people never wanted to make.  They disintegrated because of the simple fact that not enough people agreed with them.  Try to remember that not everyone is as overtly xenophobic as the BNP and their supporters.  Believe it or not, some of us don't actually have a problem with migrants.  If fact, some of us are quite happy to welcome them.  I know that's a sickening prospect for you, but try not to throw up or anything.

Maybe you could try living abroad for a year or so.  Don't knock it 'til you've tried it and such.  Open your mind a little.  Put yourself in their shoes rather than judging them without experiencing the same things they have.

//EDIT:  Also, some are now arguing that The tories and the BNP aren't all that dissimilar in their rhetoric as of late.  The shift further to the right is palpable.  This is by far the most right-wing government we've had in at least the last 50 years, probably more.


WE WANT OUT AND THE ONLY WAY IS MRS MAY..I thinks you never know she might do a u turn
remember she wanted to stay in the EU.
So she might con us ALL.. It would be no surprise ..We all Know politicians?

Maybe there are reasons for her change of heart.

These guys want out too.  Remind me who it is you're "taking back control" for again?  If you think it's the general public, then you're beyond adorably naive.

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April 22, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
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Earlier, there was a real choice for the British people - the BNP. But that party has disintegrated in to oblivion now.

They were a bunch of swivel eyed criminals and social inadequates with abnormally low levels of intelligence and comprehension. My anus wouldn't vote for the type of people you wouldn't even let onto a bus.

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