UK Election on 8th June (and ensuing aftermath)

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Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.   

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

What?? You dont fight terror with even greater terror???

Anyway good post but i doubt it will reach their brains.

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[popcorn1]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

giving extremists exactly what they want,..YOUR RIGHT and we have been giving them what they want for..

1,400 Years of Islamic Aggression: An Analysis - CBN.com
www.cbn.com/spirituallife/.../understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx
1,400 Years of Christian/Islamic Struggle: An Analysis ... The Muslim wars of imperialist conquest have been launched for almost 1,500 years .... the large numbers of Christians who have recently taken long pilgrimages in the footsteps of the ..


AND I DON'T LIVE THAT LONG..

So we have to have VIGILS every other month for the next 2000 more YEARS..

Because LOOK AT IRELAND ..They terrorised ENGLAND they didn't do to bad..

EVEN have a gay leader and HALF INDIAN..
So it seems YOUR WRONG..

[popcorn1]

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking..

Answer me this then..

They kill for 70 virgins and a river flowing with wine..
So why not go out and get pissed a fuck all the women you can try and get..

Some can go through a 1000 women SO THEY SAY ..And you just go the off licence buy some booze
all the rivers of booze you want..

See how stupid they are ..

So you must get rid of stupid people like that..


Hay bob what are you doing I am blowing myself up to get duck eggs in heaven..
Well bob you can buy them in the supermarket ..

[Nagadota]

Despite starting with a 21 point gap in the polls, it might now be down to just a single point between the two leading parties according to the latest polls.  Many are now predicting a hung parliament, with no single party achieving a decisive majority. 

Labour have pulled off a top-notch election campaign and Corbyn's vote share will undoubtedly be higher than Miliband's pathetic 30% or so in 2015 which would stop people from avoiding voting Labour because they're "unelectable"...

That said, it's far too easy to overestimate the number of young people which will actually go and vote.  The Tories' vote share tend to be more "reliable" voters so to speak, and they've just received a big boost from UKIP (expelled Tories who were too evil even for them).  Labour's vote share could be pushed either side of the margin of error.

The only reason the tories called the election was because they thought it was a done deal and they could potentially increase their majority, but now it's likely they're actually going to lose seats.  Also, a tory MP has finally been charged with election fraud, accused of falsely declaring expenses in the previous election.  Took the CPS long enough, but at least it will hopefully ruin his campaign.

The entire Conservative Party should be fucked from these electoral fraud allegations, but it looks like they're managing to cling on without enough publicity even happening due to the bastards in the Murdoch press and Daily Mail.  I don't think it'll have too much of an impact for now.

If you vote for any party other than Tories you will be supporting Islamists.

Everyone who is not Muslim MUST vote Tories.  There is no other party to slow down the Islamization.

Yeah, the Iraq, Syria and Libya wars have done so much to help stem the flow of terrorism haven't they?  The West have been so altruistic when pointlessly switching sides and fighting everyone at once, haven't they?  Don't try to convince yourself that 1.6 billion people are terrorists, which is clearly what you mean by "Islamization".

Do you even know what Muslims coming to the West as refugees are running away from?  It's a mixture of terrorism against them from "Muslims" (since the biggest victims of terrorism are Muslims by far), and terrorism from the West.

It might work with traumatized Germans or British but it will not work in the US or Eastern Europe.

Ah hah.  Here's what it is - you don't even have connections to Britain or Germany.  You've made it clear with that little slip of yours, using the third person to refer to British people.

All you've been doing is reading bullshit in the press about Britain being "taken over" or something, and you've exaggerated minor events in your pitiful mind.  This helps you delude yourself into a victim mentality which creates an endless cycle of hatred - this can only ever be stopped when one self-proclaimed "side" actually looks inward instead of outward when considering emotions.

Furthermore, Sharia Law is a vague term referring to laws based on the Qur'an - Sharia courts in the UK are not official courts and cannot override real courts, they're just for domestic disputes for personal business which is why they're allowed.  Furthermore, the countries and governments which have implemented Sharia Law have not implemented it based on the same ideals which Western Muslims typically have.

[popcorn1]

Despite starting with a 21 point gap in the polls, it might now be down to just a single point between the two leading parties according to the latest polls.  Many are now predicting a hung parliament, with no single party achieving a decisive majority. 

Labour have pulled off a top-notch election campaign and Corbyn's vote share will undoubtedly be higher than Miliband's pathetic 30% or so in 2015 which would stop people from avoiding voting Labour because they're "unelectable"...

That said, it's far too easy to overestimate the number of young people which will actually go and vote.  The Tories' vote share tend to be more "reliable" voters so to speak, and they've just received a big boost from UKIP (expelled Tories who were too evil even for them).  Labour's vote share could be pushed either side of the margin of error.

The only reason the tories called the election was because they thought it was a done deal and they could potentially increase their majority, but now it's likely they're actually going to lose seats.  Also, a tory MP has finally been charged with election fraud, accused of falsely declaring expenses in the previous election.  Took the CPS long enough, but at least it will hopefully ruin his campaign.

The entire Conservative Party should be fucked from these electoral fraud allegations, but it looks like they're managing to cling on without enough publicity even happening due to the bastards in the Murdoch press and Daily Mail.  I don't think it'll have too much of an impact for now.

If you vote for any party other than Tories you will be supporting Islamists.

Everyone who is not Muslim MUST vote Tories.  There is no other party to slow down the Islamization.

Yeah, the Iraq, Syria and Libya wars have done so much to help stem the flow of terrorism haven't they?  The West have been so altruistic when pointlessly switching sides and fighting everyone at once, haven't they?  Don't try to convince yourself that 1.6 billion people are terrorists, which is clearly what you mean by "Islamization".

Do you even know what Muslims coming to the West as refugees are running away from?  It's a mixture of terrorism against them from "Muslims" (since the biggest victims of terrorism are Muslims by far), and terrorism from the West.

It might work with traumatized Germans or British but it will not work in the US or Eastern Europe.

Ah hah.  Here's what it is - you don't even have connections to Britain or Germany.  You've made it clear with that little slip of yours, using the third person to refer to British people.

All you've been doing is reading bullshit in the press about Britain being "taken over" or something, and you've exaggerated minor events in your pitiful mind.  This helps you delude yourself into a victim mentality which creates an endless cycle of hatred - this can only ever be stopped when one self-proclaimed "side" actually looks inward instead of outward when considering emotions.

Furthermore, Sharia Law is a vague term referring to laws based on the Qur'an - Sharia courts in the UK are not official courts and cannot override real courts, they're just for domestic disputes for personal business which is why they're allowed.  Furthermore, the countries and governments which have implemented Sharia Law have not implemented it based on the same ideals which Western Muslims typically have.

THE UK IS MY COUNTRY ..And ISLAM IS A CANCER IN MY LAND..

[DooMAD]

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking..

Answer me this then..

They kill for 70 virgins and a river flowing with wine..
So why not go out and get pissed a fuck all the women you can try and get..

Some can go through a 1000 women SO THEY SAY ..And you just go the off licence buy some booze
all the rivers of booze you want..

See how stupid they are ..

So you must get rid of stupid people like that..


Hay bob what are you doing I am blowing myself up to get duck eggs in heaven..
Well bob you can buy them in the supermarket ..

If an atheist blew up your house in the name of appeasing the flying spaghetti monster, would you blame all atheists?  Would we need a crackdown on them too?  Or would you just blame that individual for being an insane bellend who clearly wasn't right in the head?  You can't tar everyone with the same brush.  

Well, you can, but it just makes you look like a dick.  

Obviously the vast majority of Muslims don't believe in killing innocents by blowing themselves up, otherwise you wouldn't be so concerned with how numerous they are, heh.  I mean, seriously, which is it?  They're all suicide bombers, or they're all here to steal your job, or they're all here to claim benefits?  I've heard you claim all three, but they all sound pretty mutually exclusive and contradictory.  Pick an argument and stick with it for crying out loud.  

[popcorn1]

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking..

Answer me this then..

They kill for 70 virgins and a river flowing with wine..
So why not go out and get pissed a fuck all the women you can try and get..

Some can go through a 1000 women SO THEY SAY ..And you just go the off licence buy some booze
all the rivers of booze you want..

See how stupid they are ..

So you must get rid of stupid people like that..


Hay bob what are you doing I am blowing myself up to get duck eggs in heaven..
Well bob you can buy them in the supermarket ..

If an atheist blew up your house in the name of appeasing the flying spaghetti monster, would you blame all atheists?  Would we need a crackdown on them too?  Or would you just blame that individual for being an insane bellend who clearly wasn't right in the head?  You can't tar everyone with the same brush.  

Well, you can, but it just makes you look like a dick.  

Obviously the vast majority of Muslims don't believe in killing innocents by blowing themselves up, otherwise you wouldn't be so concerned with how numerous they are, heh.  I mean, seriously, which is it?  They're all suicide bombers, or they're all here to steal your job, or they're all here to claim benefits?  I've heard you claim all three, but they all sound pretty mutually exclusive and contradictory.  Pick an argument and stick with it for crying out loud.  

spaghetti monster,..I AM an ATHEIST ..Guess what   I AM AN ATHEIST ..

Guess what try another cause      I am an ATHEIST ..

So now what do i blow myself for..   You killed my children?..

Well it's a a good reason to blow myself up and the people who done it..
But what's that got to do with RELIGION..?

[popcorn1]

I mean, seriously, which is it?  They're all suicide bombers, or they're all here to steal your job, or they're all here to claim benefits?..You missed the SHARIA LAW too..

But you just about covered it ..

Theresa May defends Sharia Law views as she prepares to become ...
www.express.co.uk › News › UK
13 Jul 2016 - Theresa May forced to defend views on Sharia Law as she prepares to ... she supports Sharia in the UK, said she is "concerned" that the 'law' is ..

All SHE needs now is a police officer in every ones home doing 2 shifts day and nights ..

She keeps saying the internet is a breeding ground for terror
looks like she wants to control what we think about them more the reason why not the ISLAMS ..

Islam terror been going way before i had a laptop..

Just i know more about SHADY POLITICIANS now than ever ever did thanks to the INTERNET..

[DooMAD]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

You will lose if you are not more brutal than they are.

Appeasement does not work.  You don't win by letting terrorists operate in your country.

You need to round up Islamists operating your country and expel them.

You need to carpet bomb the ISIS-controlled territory.  Wipe them out!!!

You need to ban Islamists from entering your country.

You need to deport all families, confiscate their property, seize their bank accounts if any member of their families is Islamist or Jihadist.

You need to actively go after Islamists and Jihadists.

That is how you win.

If I believed in that sort of thing, I'd rather deport you to be honest.  You sound like a bigger threat to my quality of life than any terrorist because you hate freedom even more than they do.  

That is not how you win.  That's how you escalate the situation and create even more terrorists, feeding the vicious cycle of violence.  You are appeasing the terrorists by giving them what they want.  Way to completely miss the point of my previous reply to you.

You have already lost because you have already lowered yourself to the level of a terrorist.  You and the terrorists are just two sides of the same coin.  You should be ashamed, but I know you won't be.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking..

Answer me this then..

They kill for 70 virgins and a river flowing with wine..
So why not go out and get pissed a fuck all the women you can try and get..

Some can go through a 1000 women SO THEY SAY ..And you just go the off licence buy some booze
all the rivers of booze you want..

See how stupid they are ..

So you must get rid of stupid people like that..


Hay bob what are you doing I am blowing myself up to get duck eggs in heaven..
Well bob you can buy them in the supermarket ..

If an atheist blew up your house in the name of appeasing the flying spaghetti monster, would you blame all atheists?  Would we need a crackdown on them too?  Or would you just blame that individual for being an insane bellend who clearly wasn't right in the head?  You can't tar everyone with the same brush.  

Well, you can, but it just makes you look like a dick.  

Obviously the vast majority of Muslims don't believe in killing innocents by blowing themselves up, otherwise you wouldn't be so concerned with how numerous they are, heh.  I mean, seriously, which is it?  They're all suicide bombers, or they're all here to steal your job, or they're all here to claim benefits?  I've heard you claim all three, but they all sound pretty mutually exclusive and contradictory.  Pick an argument and stick with it for crying out loud.  

spaghetti monster,..I AM an ATHEIST ..Guess what   I AM AN ATHEIST ..

Guess what try another cause      I am an ATHEIST ..

So now what do i blow myself for..   You killed my children?..

Well it's a a good reason to blow myself up and the people who done it..
But what's that got to do with RELIGION..?

*facepalm*

Am I being too subtle?  "What's that got to do with religion?" was my entire point.  Not all Muslims are bombers and not all bombers are Muslim.  That example demonstrates it.  Any person of any religion, or someone who isn't religious at all, could blow up someone's house.  It doesn't then mean you retaliate by attacking anyone who is ascribed the same label as the person who blew up the house.  The people you choose to attack don't even share the same views as the bomber, because they aren't extremists or terrorists like the bomber was.  But in the act of attacking them, you run the risk of turning them into future extremists or terrorists.

I mean, seriously, which is it?  They're all suicide bombers, or they're all here to steal your job, or they're all here to claim benefits?..You missed the SHARIA LAW too..

But you just about covered it ..

*double facepalm*

I know it generally kills the humour when you have to explain a joke, but I can see you need walking through it.  You're doing the classic Shrodinger's Immigrant argument, which is stupid enough to begin with, but now you're saying they can steal your job and claim benefits after they've blown themselves up.  Clearly your argument doesn't make sense.

[criptix]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.   

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

You will lose if you are not more brutal than they are.

Appeasement does not work.  You don't win by letting terrorists operate in your country.

You need to round up Islamists operating your country and expel them.

You need to carpet bomb the ISIS-controlled territory.  Wipe them out!!!

You need to ban Islamists from entering your country.

You need to deport all families, confiscate their property, seize their bank accounts if any member of their families is Islamist or Jihadist.

You need to actively go after Islamists and Jihadists.

That is how you win.

Nice penal system.
Punish the whole family because one family member did something.

I know exactly one nation in the world where such a system exist: north korea.
(And maybe somewhere deep in the african bush or amazon)

But yeah let that day come and some of your family member does some shit. I will be giggling seing your face.

[popcorn1]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

You will lose if you are not more brutal than they are.

Appeasement does not work.  You don't win by letting terrorists operate in your country.

You need to round up Islamists operating your country and expel them.

You need to carpet bomb the ISIS-controlled territory.  Wipe them out!!!

You need to ban Islamists from entering your country.

You need to deport all families, confiscate their property, seize their bank accounts if any member of their families is Islamist or Jihadist.

You need to actively go after Islamists and Jihadists.

That is how you win.

Nice penal system.
Punish the whole family because one family member did something.

I know exactly one nation where such a system exist: north korea.

But yeah let that day come and some of your family member does some shit. I will be gigglign seing your face.

Jeez you Germans loosing your touch ..
You should easy be able to think of a good way to get rid of them..
ANY IDEAS ..

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Can you smell something funny ..

[criptix]

[Text which is way above popcorns intelligence]

Please show some sympathy.
Popcorn is not the smartest especially when he starts to light his joint while posting here.

[criptix]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

You will lose if you are not more brutal than they are.

Appeasement does not work.  You don't win by letting terrorists operate in your country.

You need to round up Islamists operating your country and expel them.

You need to carpet bomb the ISIS-controlled territory.  Wipe them out!!!

You need to ban Islamists from entering your country.

You need to deport all families, confiscate their property, seize their bank accounts if any member of their families is Islamist or Jihadist.

You need to actively go after Islamists and Jihadists.

That is how you win.

Nice penal system.
Punish the whole family because one family member did something.

I know exactly one nation where such a system exist: north korea.

But yeah let that day come and some of your family member does some shit. I will be gigglign seing your face.

Jeez you Germans loosing your touch ..
You should easy be able to think of a good way to get rid of them..
ANY IDEAS ..

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Can you smell something funny ..

Get a dictionary and look up the word:

Sarcasm

[popcorn1]

I am only joking you know ..About gassing them..
Just hang them instead Another joke

I think we should just knock all the religious buildings down and build science learning and sports centres in there places ..

And all colour people could learn and share there knowledge amongst each other AS ONE..

Do you think i will ever get my way..

OR will have have to make a new religion ABOUT EARTHALON..?

[criptix]

I am only joking you know ..About gassing them..
Just hang them instead Another joke

I think we should just knock all the religious buildings down and build science learning and sports centres in there places ..

And all colour people could learn and share there knowledge amongst each other AS ONE..

Do you think i will ever get my way..

OR will have have to make a new religion ABOUT EARTHALON..?

Well then im relieved.

The thing about religion is that it is part of our western values regarding freedom (religious freedom). Abolishing religion because some people think it is wrong would be fascism.

So i guess you could try to be the jesus of the Earthalon religion

[popcorn1]

I am only joking you know ..About gassing them..
Just hang them instead Another joke

I think we should just knock all the religious buildings down and build science learning and sports centres in there places ..

And all colour people could learn and share there knowledge amongst each other AS ONE..

Do you think i will ever get my way..

OR will have have to make a new religion ABOUT EARTHALON..?

Well then im relieved.

The thing about religion is that it is part of our western values regarding freedom (religious freedom). Abolishing religion because some people think it is wrong would be fascism.

So i guess you could try to be the jesus of the Earthalon religion

will you be my Peter or Paul ?..

Well share those bitcoins with JESUS then ..

[criptix]

Sadly im not the religious type and regarding bitcoins im a greeady bastard

[criptix]

^

Af_newbie:

Why dont you move to north korea? Everything what you want and more is real there.

[popcorn1]

Sadly im not the religious type and regarding bitcoins im a greeady bastard

I know ..But your more middle class in the BTC world..

Some own 1000s of BTC..Could i be one of them?..

No your right ..

[criptix]

^

Af_newbie:

Why dont you move to north korea? Everything what you want and more is real there.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia? You will be closer to Mecca.

Because im no muslim and disapprove of the sauds?
Are you able to read?

You can post from north korea and tell us how great it is there.