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February 06, 2020, 10:22:48 AM
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Oh come on, you know every noname player gets transferred for €20m+ nowadays and you're telling me Leroy Sane, one of the best players (if not the best!) in his generation should be only worth that price tag? In 17/18 & 18/19 he scored more than 15 goals in the PL/CL/Cup and got awarded best young player in 17/18.  So when exactly was your so-called "only 1 beautiful performance"?

The price of Sanè is around 100m € if he will have no problems after the injury.

The valuation can be lower only if the player will have problem after the ACL



Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/leroy-sane/verletzungen/spieler/192565

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February 06, 2020, 11:13:40 AM
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Leroy Sane is worth a lot more than €20 Million. He has been sidelined for a long time with a serious ligament injury and many players have come back not looking like themselves in the past after difficult ligament injuries. We need to see in what shape he will be once he comes back. Not just physically but also mentally. You can recover your physical strength but the fear of contact and pain is a whole different story. He is young and physically he will be back. Lets see how he handles it mentally. 

Yeah, I agree. It’s a bad injury but you can definitely come back strong from it these days with all the top medical science these days.

Young Joe Gomez at Liverpool had the same injury & look at him now!

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February 06, 2020, 01:26:57 PM
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Sane will be available for a good price only because of the injury. If he didn’t have the injury he would be valued possibly 3 or 4 x more. He should move from Man City any way because Sterling & Silva seem to be favoured.

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February 06, 2020, 03:33:22 PM
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Sane will be available for a good price only because of the injury. If he didn’t have the injury he would be valued possibly 3 or 4 x more. He should move from Man City any way because Sterling & Silva seem to be favoured.

isn't Silva leaving Manchester City at the end of the season? I think they going to MSL league to Beckham's club (I read this info somewhere).

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Again Real Madrid for sure have a lot of money but for the Fair Play Agreement they can't spend that amount without any sell, who will they sell? I think they can close the session with a -150m€ but more should be a problem even for them.

You really think that Real Madrid can have problem with Fair play if he buys Mbappe, and Juventus can buy Pogba without bypassing the rule? As far as I know, Juventus can't pay for full Ronaldo salary, a significant percentage are added by sponsors.

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February 06, 2020, 05:33:37 PM
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Transfer negotiations between FC Bayern and Leroy Sané are on hold due to a 3-month notice period with the player's former agents. Sané's new agency Lian Sports can only officially negotiate on behalf of the player starting from April 1st [@cfbayern, SportBild]

Bayern bosses are not very enthusiastic about the change of agents, but are not nervous because Sané informed them that he wants to move to Munich. Sané can imagine playing under Hansi Flick. What’s important to him is his wages and a squad that can win the Champions League.

Man City are slowly coming to terms with the idea that Sané will not extend his contract. Pep Guardiola has internally suggested the idea of a swap with Kingsley Coman, which is not an option for Bayern. City's asking price could amount to €95m [SportBild]

€95m sound like a fair price for Leroy Sané. At least noone talks about the crazy €150m price tag anymore.

95m is not a fair price for Leroy sane, he is now a prospect because he has been injured for close to a year.

Has only 1 beautiful performances laden year in the epl with city after poor performances , and gets hyped by the english and German press.

Shouldn't cost more than 20 in reality

Oh come on, you know every noname player gets transferred for €20m+ nowadays and you're telling me Leroy Sane, one of the best players (if not the best!) in his generation should be only worth that price tag? In 17/18 & 18/19 he scored more than 15 goals in the PL/CL/Cup and got awarded best young player in 17/18.  So when exactly was your so-called "only 1 beautiful performance"?

Leroy Sane is worth a lot more than €20 Million. He has been sidelined for a long time with a serious ligament injury and many players have come back not looking like themselves in the past after difficult ligament injuries. We need to see in what shape he will be once he comes back. Not just physically but also mentally. You can recover your physical strength but the fear of contact and pain is a whole different story. He is young and physically he will be back. Lets see how he handles it mentally. 

Leroy Sane is definitely worth $95 millions in my personal opinion, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Bayern paid up to $120 million for him because he’s a top class player. However before this transfer can go through he has to prove his match fitness, and once he establishes that he is fit then I feel Bayern will leave no stone unturned to sign him.
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February 06, 2020, 06:11:34 PM
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There is a difference between a huge club transferring a player and a small club transferring a player. The difference is staggering and people do not realize how hard it is for the smaller clubs to get good players since even if they find one, a huge team could offer 5x of that price easily without a problem.

Just to give an example from premier league, lets say Manchester city wants to sell a player, why would they sell him for 20 million? They make hundreds of millions of dollars every year, if a player doesn't want to go, he has to be sold for something close to 100 million to worth it, talking about starting lineup good players of course like sane.

On the other hand, west ham can never afford to have 200-300 million dollar budgets, they may try it but in the end its not sustainable, so they find players for 5-10-20-30 or whatever since that is what they can offer. The problem here is not the fact that Sane may worth 100 or 20, its the fact that he is on a rich club, going to another rich club. If the same exact player was on a bad team going to another poor team, he wouldn't cost 100 million since neither of those teams ever had that kind of money.

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February 06, 2020, 09:20:27 PM
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Transfer negotiations between FC Bayern and Leroy Sané are on hold due to a 3-month notice period with the player's former agents. Sané's new agency Lian Sports can only officially negotiate on behalf of the player starting from April 1st [@cfbayern, SportBild]

Bayern bosses are not very enthusiastic about the change of agents, but are not nervous because Sané informed them that he wants to move to Munich. Sané can imagine playing under Hansi Flick. What’s important to him is his wages and a squad that can win the Champions League.

Man City are slowly coming to terms with the idea that Sané will not extend his contract. Pep Guardiola has internally suggested the idea of a swap with Kingsley Coman, which is not an option for Bayern. City's asking price could amount to €95m [SportBild]

€95m sound like a fair price for Leroy Sané. At least noone talks about the crazy €150m price tag anymore.

95m is not a fair price for Leroy sane, he is now a prospect because he has been injured for close to a year.

Has only 1 beautiful performances laden year in the epl with city after poor performances , and gets hyped by the english and German press.

Shouldn't cost more than 20 in reality

Oh come on, you know every noname player gets transferred for €20m+ nowadays and you're telling me Leroy Sane, one of the best players (if not the best!) in his generation should be only worth that price tag? In 17/18 & 18/19 he scored more than 15 goals in the PL/CL/Cup and got awarded best young player in 17/18.  So when exactly was your so-called "only 1 beautiful performance"?

Yes, i added in reality to proof a point.
No club would buy a player coming back from knee ligaments for 95m.

So definitely his stocks has dropped likewise his performance.

No way leroy sane is worth 95m today
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February 07, 2020, 07:24:38 PM
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Sane will be available for a good price only because of the injury. If he didn’t have the injury he would be valued possibly 3 or 4 x more. He should move from Man City any way because Sterling & Silva seem to be favoured.

isn't Silva leaving Manchester City at the end of the season? I think they going to MSL league to Beckham's club (I read this info somewhere).

I meant Bernardo Silva, sorry mate. Both Sterling & B. Silva seem to be the first choice wide players now. Sane will have to leave to reinvent his career I think.

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February 07, 2020, 09:52:36 PM
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Transfer negotiations between FC Bayern and Leroy Sané are on hold due to a 3-month notice period with the player's former agents. Sané's new agency Lian Sports can only officially negotiate on behalf of the player starting from April 1st [@cfbayern, SportBild]

Bayern bosses are not very enthusiastic about the change of agents, but are not nervous because Sané informed them that he wants to move to Munich. Sané can imagine playing under Hansi Flick. What’s important to him is his wages and a squad that can win the Champions League.

Man City are slowly coming to terms with the idea that Sané will not extend his contract. Pep Guardiola has internally suggested the idea of a swap with Kingsley Coman, which is not an option for Bayern. City's asking price could amount to €95m [SportBild]

€95m sound like a fair price for Leroy Sané. At least noone talks about the crazy €150m price tag anymore.

95m is not a fair price for Leroy sane, he is now a prospect because he has been injured for close to a year.

Has only 1 beautiful performances laden year in the epl with city after poor performances , and gets hyped by the english and German press.

Shouldn't cost more than 20 in reality

Oh come on, you know every noname player gets transferred for €20m+ nowadays and you're telling me Leroy Sane, one of the best players (if not the best!) in his generation should be only worth that price tag? In 17/18 & 18/19 he scored more than 15 goals in the PL/CL/Cup and got awarded best young player in 17/18.  So when exactly was your so-called "only 1 beautiful performance"?

Yes, i added in reality to proof a point.
No club would buy a player coming back from knee ligaments for 95m.

So definitely his stocks has dropped likewise his performance.

No way leroy sane is worth 95m today
I think many peoples taking this all very seriously he worth of 95m or no but I feel one thing is sure if some one is paying this then surely he know all facts better then us so just because of this they are paying payment like this we need to be calm because we are not going or receiving this fees through bitcointalk its business which is going on for many years  Grin Cheesy
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February 07, 2020, 10:28:38 PM
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Guardiola talked about the Messi situation and Italian media are reporting the news like.

"Messi will not go to Manchester City if he will leave Barcelona"

Messi IF will leave and I doubt it needs a top team where he can play the Champions every year with the possibility of winning so.

He can go to

PSG or JUVE IMHO, nothing else.


This is not relevant but fun, from last year from Messi's son.

Source: https://www.foxsports.it/2018/10/26/champions-league-barcellona-inter-figlio-messi-disegna-logo-juventus/



Sources for Guardiola on Messi

https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/calciomercato/2020/02/07-66500261/guardiola_niente_messi_io_voglio_che_resti_al_barcellona_/
https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-mercato/2020/02/07-66500067/guardiola_allontana_messi_il_mio_desiderio_e_che_rimanga_al_barcellona_/
https://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/calcioestero/manchester-city-guardiola-impossibile-prendere-messi_14517022-202002a.shtml

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FC Bayern might be interested in the 19 year-old right-back Sergiño Dest from Ajax Amsterdam. His current market value is estimated at €12m. He could be a decent addition to Bayerns squad. Lets see if Hasan Salihamidžić is able to finalize a deal.

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Sergiño Dest was at Allianz Arena on Wednesday for the Pokal game against Hoffenheim. Hasan Salihamidžić watched the player in action during the Ajax vs PSV game on Sunday in Amsterdam [@mano_bonke]

Bayern have been watching Sergiño Dest for a long time. The deal is not done yet but in the Netherlands, they assume that it will take place in the summer. Dest was seen at the Munich Airport a few days ago, but Bayern did not want to comment on the topic [Bild]

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February 08, 2020, 01:14:57 PM
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Abidal released an interview with Mundo Deportivo.
"I hope Messi will stay next year too".

Whoa, it seems to me that the position of Abidal is more stable than the position of Messi.

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February 08, 2020, 01:21:53 PM
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I don’t think Messi will leave Barca, it’s probably all a negotiating tactic by his agent to make it look like he might leave. One more big pay day to take him into retirement I assume.

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February 08, 2020, 08:53:22 PM
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Abidal released an interview with Mundo Deportivo.
"I hope Messi will stay next year too".

Whoa, it seems to me that the position of Abidal is more stable than the position of Messi.

This statement shows to me that Messi is considering a way out.
And in my opinion it is very good to do so. He cannot win anything more with Barcelona. He can get an offer from a Chinese club or an UAE club with a lot of money and retire then.
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February 09, 2020, 05:17:30 PM
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Ajax Amsterdam is willing to sell Sergiño Dest for €26m to FC Bayern München. Compared to todays standards thats almost a bargain. Or what do you guys think?

Bayern target Sergiño Dest was at Allianz Arena on Wednesday watching the game against Hoffenheim without being recognized. Hasan Salihamidžić watched Ajax vs PSV in Amsterdam 3 days earlier where Dest was man of the match. Ajax would be willing to sell for around €26m [Bild]

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Messi won’t leave, I’m pretty sure there’s been speculation like this about his future before. It’ll all get resolved, I’m sure. Even in his mid 30’s he’s still so important to Barca, both on the pitch & commercially.

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^  Yup def not.

Anyway what do you think of Coutinho leaving Barca (at a discount), with LFC, City, Chelski and United (Lol) interested?  Would you guys welcome him back?  I'd like to see him play for either LFC or City tbh (esp. with David Silva retiring soon.  He should fit right in there).

Edit:  Oh and Pep to Juve rumors swirling around again.  Grin

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February 11, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
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Messi won’t leave, I’m pretty sure there’s been speculation like this about his future before. It’ll all get resolved, I’m sure. Even in his mid 30’s he’s still so important to Barca, both on the pitch & commercially.

I also don't think Messi will leave Barcelona.
He is there his whole life since chilhood.
In some way Messi became bigger than club so I more believe in possibility that president or sport director will leave than Messi.
In the long term it's not good for club because we don't know what will happen with Barcelona when Messi finish his career but right now Messi is absolute Center or boss in Barcelona and everybody are afraid to make him angry or upset.


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Edit:  Oh and Pep to Juve rumors swirling around again.  Grin
From what i've been reading, Juve are willing to give him a blank check  Shocked  source [in spanish] here.

Am I the only one who think Ronaldo would never want to play next to Messi? He has such a huge ego that he wouldn't allow his biggest rival take the spotlight away from him... Same goes with Messi, tho.

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