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September 21, 2023, 01:21:22 PM |
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
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September 21, 2023, 01:26:00 PM |
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
It's just too funny lol. Barcelona already have a lot great and young players, no need to expect Messi return to Barcelona. In midfielder they have Pedri, Gavi, De Jong and Gundongan. If Messi back to Barcelona, he will not have a place to play, but these young players obviously don't mind to let Messi take his place due to seniorism. Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age. I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision. @Mustang Shelby Barcelona official’s will never go on the record and say that they don’t need Messi because he’s yet very popular with the fan’s so they’ll only tease about his return but take no action to get him. Furthermore Messi never wanted to leave and he had agreed to pick minimum wages to stay but Barcelona officials decided against his stay and even when he was a free agent again they did nothing to bring him back and that’s why he didn’t bother coming back to Barcelona.
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September 21, 2023, 02:02:59 PM |
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount. With Barcelona current financial condition, this is a big challenge, their worrying finances will be a big obstacle in fulfilling the wishes of many people, including me also hoping that Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo will be made permanent. The contribution that both of them have made to Barcelona is very convincing in terms of continuous goal contributions and will have a significant impact if Barcelona tries in any way to generate such a large redemption amount.
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September 21, 2023, 02:06:44 PM |
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
Leo Messi returned is out of the picture as the coach, players and the supporters are curious about the growth of the team. They are increasingly better than before and everything working smooth for them because they remain consistent in their performance. All these years, the club have declined in performance, they really try to hook up back to there best because it's definitely not an easy task for an elite club to scramble, not all players have gain that energy and experience to rise back up. Barcelona are in amazing form currently, they have the best outstanding players. Xavi Hernandez have worked on his squad and he's having good results.
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September 21, 2023, 03:12:08 PM |
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount. Well, in my opinion this is a relatively expensive fee but also quite reasonable and in any case the role of these two players is very important for Barcelona's development. We know that there is no doubt about the quality of Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo, it has been proven that in several previous matches both of them contributed goals to Barcelona's victory. But again, where can Barcelona get that much money with the current financial situation and it seems very impossible for Barcelona to make him permanent. I think that if the loan contract ends, Barcelona must be willing to be prepared to part with both of them.
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September 21, 2023, 03:24:55 PM Last edit: September 21, 2023, 03:44:15 PM by X-ray |
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount. The matter for consideration is how Barcelona can obtain 200 million. Barcelona has sold more of its broacasting right in summer. In order to secure a permanent signing of Felix from Atletico Madrid, Barcelona may need the club to let go of some of their young players. Barcelona was good but its financial problem will always become a nightmare for the club. I don't even think barcelona has the intention to sell yamal and gavi. Barcelona is still in a huge debt now. The catalan could not register felix, cancelo or even gundogan if laporta's club was not selling more broadcasting right. It's impossible for barcelona to recruit them all without selling the players. I remember barcelona has tried so hard in selling de jong, fati or even ferran torrest but they were refusing to be sold by the club. It will be a hard situation for barcelona.
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September 21, 2023, 04:40:58 PM |
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount. Well, in my opinion this is a relatively expensive fee but also quite reasonable and in any case the role of these two players is very important for Barcelona's development. We know that there is no doubt about the quality of Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo, it has been proven that in several previous matches both of them contributed goals to Barcelona's victory. But again, where can Barcelona get that much money with the current financial situation and it seems very impossible for Barcelona to make him permanent. I think that if the loan contract ends, Barcelona must be willing to be prepared to part with both of them. Obviously it is a cost that is quite expensive for the Barcelona family to make these two players permanent, well it is true that these two players are no doubt, they have a very good contribution there and obviously this will be very good ammunition for the development of Barcelona itself, the point is that both Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo can provide something that Barcelona needs even though their status is still a loan player there. And yes that is always the question, where Barcelona will be able to get the fantastic money to make these two players permanent, as we know now Xavi's squad is not doing well in financial matters, and of course this is always their obstacle. Oh well recently I heard a statement from Barcelona that if these two players can give their best performances for the umpteenth time before the loan period ends then I hear they will open up opportunities to retain these two players, but I don't know for sure whether it's in the sense of extending the loan period or buying permanently. What is clear is that if Barcelona wants to make these two players Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo permanent then clearly Barcelona must prepare approximately 200 million, and that is very difficult to realize in the midst of financial problems that continue to be an obstacle to this squad.
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September 21, 2023, 04:45:56 PM |
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Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
You are right, both players are having good forms and playing well, scoring goals etc, most especially Joao Felix who has underperformed in couple of seasons now. With Felix and Cancelo performing well; it means Barcelona needs to prepare another loan offer for both players because they cannot afford to sign them both
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September 21, 2023, 04:55:32 PM |
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Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
You are right, both players are having good forms and playing well, scoring goals etc, most especially Joao Felix who has underperformed in couple of seasons now. With Felix and Cancelo performing well; it means Barcelona needs to prepare another loan offer for both players because they cannot afford to sign them both They both are spectacular players. Cancelo performed great when he was at City and at Bayern too. While Felix also is a very good dribbler but his finishing lacks a bit. I think both City and Atletico are gonna ask a huge money. City might find it easy to allow Cancelo to leave for 70-80m but Felix is definitely gonna go for over or near 100 m. Possible that Barcelona might get them for loan again because both players are having hard relationship with their respective clubs and while there are no buyers, the only viable way is to send them out on loan again.
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September 21, 2023, 05:03:23 PM |
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Obviously it is a cost that is quite expensive for the Barcelona family to make these two players permanent, well it is true that these two players are no doubt, they have a very good contribution there and obviously this will be very good ammunition for the development of Barcelona itself, the point is that both Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo can provide something that Barcelona needs even though their status is still a loan player there. And yes that is always the question, where Barcelona will be able to get the fantastic money to make these two players permanent, as we know now Xavi's squad is not doing well in financial matters, and of course this is always their obstacle.
Oh well recently I heard a statement from Barcelona that if these two players can give their best performances for the umpteenth time before the loan period ends then I hear they will open up opportunities to retain these two players, but I don't know for sure whether it's in the sense of extending the loan period or buying permanently. What is clear is that if Barcelona wants to make these two players Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo permanent then clearly Barcelona must prepare approximately 200 million, and that is very difficult to realize in the midst of financial problems that continue to be an obstacle to this squad.
Barcelona efforts to circumvent the Club financial crisis with loan transfers and free transfers were quite successful. The best option for now for Xavi is to make maximum use of both, both of which can provide a temporary solution for Blaurana during the loan period. If they successfully defend the La Liga title, or win the Champions League, it will certainly be easy for Barca to make the two Portuguese players permanent. Because you will get a large income if you win the trophy, and another option is to release the existing players to cover the transfer costs for Felix and Cancelo. All possibilities can still happen, but this can only be realized when both of them contribute consistently until the end of the season.
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount. Well, in my opinion this is a relatively expensive fee but also quite reasonable and in any case the role of these two players is very important for Barcelona's development. We know that there is no doubt about the quality of Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo, it has been proven that in several previous matches both of them contributed goals to Barcelona's victory. But again, where can Barcelona get that much money with the current financial situation and it seems very impossible for Barcelona to make him permanent. I think that if the loan contract ends, Barcelona must be willing to be prepared to part with both of them. Not just these two players but I think Barcelona even hired more players on loan and these players are not going to stay in Barcelona permanently. The management of Barcelona will have hard work to keep these players with the current situation they have in their team. One way they can earn money is from the Champions League, Barcelona can earn a good amount of money if they get good results in this tournament.
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Felix is really happy and from his performance and his facial expressions you will know that he is happy.
What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player. Felix definitely living his dream, that was something he wanted for a very long time. I hope that he does well enough, feel like he could definitely do something that would make a lot of sense for him on the long run. I believe that we could see Barcelona growing a lot higher this way. I mean the yare not spending the worlds on transfers, and getting players that actually want to play there. They are a big club with a great name and there are a lot of players that loves them, so they just pay the salary, and just a bit of transfer fee every year. They could just make it work in a way where they will end up with much and much less expense, and with their growing income from the success they get, they may repay the debt.
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
It's just too funny lol. Barcelona already have a lot great and young players, no need to expect Messi return to Barcelona. In midfielder they have Pedri, Gavi, De Jong and Gundongan. If Messi back to Barcelona, he will not have a place to play, but these young players obviously don't mind to let Messi take his place due to seniorism. Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age. I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision. Moving back to Barcelona will not be a good option for Lionel Messi, it is now clear that he is the greatest player. Barcelona are in high financial problems so it would be fine for them not to be able to get Messi to Barcelona. So far as a USA big name and team player Lionel Messi has achieved awards that will be un achievable. Felix is a loan player now Barcelona will have to take time to negotiate with Atletico for felix. So far he has shown a good start which is convincing for him to be signed.
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September 21, 2023, 06:12:44 PM |
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I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision.
Expecting something like this is the same as expecting Barcelona to return to the abyss where they have to think of many ways to avoid FFP lol. Barcelona and Messi already have their own world and we must realize that wanting Messi back in Barcelona uniform is impossible because in the end there are more negative impacts that will be received than the positive aspects obtained. Indeed, seeing Messi in Barcelona uniform may be for some fans it will be a little better in the hope of repeating the glory in the era that has been lost but a Messi whose age is currently approaching retirement will not be able to carry that burden because he must be aware that with his current age he has decreased in terms of performance. On the other hand, the salary that will be issued will also be very risky to make Barcelona experience problems again after this season its financial condition has improved so rather than taking risks like that, I think Messi's decision to MLS with the money given and Barcelona not bringing Messi is already a good decision.
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September 21, 2023, 06:18:06 PM |
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Felix is really happy and from his performance and his facial expressions you will know that he is happy.
What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player. Felix definitely living his dream, that was something he wanted for a very long time. I hope that he does well enough, feel like he could definitely do something that would make a lot of sense for him on the long run. I believe that we could see Barcelona growing a lot higher this way. I mean the yare not spending the worlds on transfers, and getting players that actually want to play there. They are a big club with a great name and there are a lot of players that loves them, so they just pay the salary, and just a bit of transfer fee every year. They could just make it work in a way where they will end up with much and much less expense, and with their growing income from the success they get, they may repay the debt. But this may not be the end of the story for Joao Felix as this is only a loan contract right? The problem I see is if Joao Felix is doing really really well, Atletico Madrid will either want him back in their team or they will ask a prohibitively high transfer fee that Barcelona might not be able to stem. Or maybe they are making good progress until then with their consolidation procedure, but it is still unknown whether Joao Felix can leave Atletico Madrid once and for all and join Barcelona. We should not forget how much Atletico paid for him. If he plays an excellent season they will ask for an excellent price from their perspective. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 21, 2023, 06:32:21 PM |
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According to Bild Jadon Sancho is still not a target for Dortmund despite the speculations. I'm not surprised to tell the truth because what were they going to say right after the end of the transfer window? Maybe in January things might change about this situation. Because it doesn't look like Sancho will stay at Manchester United for a long time. The relationship between him and Erik ten Hag has gone worse. I don't think a middle way will be found from now on because Sancho clearly said that he wouldn't apologize. What do you think on his next team?
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September 21, 2023, 07:25:02 PM |
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount. I couldn't believe my eyes that guy once played for Chelsea, his ball control in the last match he played in the Champions League was above what I expected for a starter that has bad days in his previous club but he picked interest in Barcelona with pride or probably it was because he had it in his mind to be at Barcelona one day. Felix having two goal in his first appearance and Man of the match is incredible, it's like having Bellingham in Real Madrid but he has less appearance for now, time will tel if he is going to continue to shine like this in the coming weeks and months as the leagues continue. I don't think Barcelona is going to buy Felix, the reason is that in his current contract, there was not option for buy clause which means that Barcelona cannot buy him untill this contract expire and they wish to buy him, they have to come to agreement on a new terms to finalize how much they wish to buy him and that is if Atletico Madrid agree to sell, if they don't want to sell, Barcelona will not have him unless they want to use money to convince the parent team.
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September 21, 2023, 07:33:54 PM |
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Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
Barcelona will definitely want to keep the both of them, but i don't think they can because of their current financial situation, Manchester City and Athletico Madrid will ask for quite a lot of money for a permanent transfer for each of the players, coupled with their salary/wages. I expect both Joao Cancelo and Joao Felix to return to their respective clubs after their loan spell is over, and from there they'll prolly be sold to another club that has the money to buy them.
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.
Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL
Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.
Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently. However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Even though the opponent in this match was not the strongest, but the result is really very good, especially it can help to raise their competitive spirit. Despite the problems with finances, the transfer window was conducted decently, and most importantly - productively, because you can see that it went in their favour, they spent minimum money and got maximum return @ajiz138 The career of Cristiano Ronaldo should have ended in a better way. Only if he decided to go to Manchester City instead of Manchester United. His career definitely would have ended in a better way. I don't know how you can decide to not play the very player that carried you on his back in the last season. But they did make that decision and I know a lot of people are going to say that this was the right decision made by them. And they will also say that Manchester United has definitely improved after that. But honestly, I do not see the improvement. They still have the same old problems that they had before. Cristiano Ronaldo is still saying that he wants to play in the next World Cup for Portugal. I do not think he will actually get a chance in the squad. Anyone who thought Messi and Neymar were going to return to Barcelona is definitely stupid. Barcelona currently cannot even register players because they don't have enough money. How are they going to pay Messi and Neymar the salary? I've never heard any rumours that Neymar might return to Barcelona. Messi as far as we know rejected the idea himself because he found cutting other players' wages for his presence unacceptable and it was indeed a wise decision. In the end Barcelona could theoretically afford it anyway by cutting other players' wages and their budget wouldn't suffer much, and the worst part is that they were prepared to do it despite the fact that they are already very much in debt
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~~ With Barcelona current financial condition, this is a big challenge, their worrying finances will be a big obstacle in fulfilling the wishes of many people, including me also hoping that Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo will be made permanent. The contribution that both of them have made to Barcelona is very convincing in terms of continuous goal contributions and will have a significant impact if Barcelona tries in any way to generate such a large redemption amount. If Joao Cancelo plays well and consistently with Barcelona, there is a big possibility that Barcelona can make him permanent as part of their team. even though he has only played a few matches, Cancelo has played quite well and has even contributed one goal for his new team. Maybe City will let him go for a price that Barcelona can afford. especially, if Barcelona wins various trophies. thus, Barcelona will receive an injection of funds. plus, from several other sources. But we'll see if Barcelona intends to make Cancelo an official La Blaugrana player. referring to the transfer mark, Cancelo has a market value of €50 million. Well, as for Joao Felix, I doubt Altetico will let him go with a relatively cheap price tag. Even though Diego Simeone did not include him in his squad list, what is certain is that they will not let this player from Portugal go cheaply. apparently, after spending one season with Barcelona. Joao Felix will return to Atletico Madrid, even if he is able to contribute to Barcelona. because, most likely Atletico will not let him go at a cheap price.
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