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November 02, 2023, 09:56:44 PM
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So now is every player who is impressive now worth 100m? I think this value (100m) is so underrated nowadays, any player who is hot for just a season suddenly carries the 100m price tag nowadays and i think it’s bad. Ivan Toney is a good striker that can still improve but until then i don’t think he is worth 100m just yet. This is why we see a lot of 100m flops nowadays because they are being overhyped.
100M seems to be the normal price for any team that wants to sell their top player. Ivan Toney may not be worth that price to you, but to Brentford he is worth that price because he is one of their best players. Also if clubs like Brighton could sell Moises Caicedo for that price and West Ham for around that price too, Brentford will try to push their luck. Ivan Toney is a goal scorer for Brentford, so that price reflects their interest that they are not so much in a hurry to sell him off.

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November 02, 2023, 10:02:08 PM
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Ivan Toney may not be back yet but he has been playing soccer behind close door games. 45 Million Euros for Ivan Toney is worth it, let me say he will make better impact than most of Manchester United attacking players right now.
Arsenal was amongst clubs chasing Ivan Toney and I've also wanted to see that. With Gabriel Jesus most likely absent, Nketiah not consistent, Ivan Toney will be a perfect backing for Mikel Arteta's squad.

Let go of the past. Now he has all it takes to succeed in the Premier League. Either of Chelsea and Arsenal would be chasing after him.
Well with the current state of the club,  having such an experienced player who have been behind the scene and building up enough skills and energy to deliver for the club at all cost,  this must be one of the most strategic signings for Manchester United in this period since e the club have suffered a lot for to players shortage on the club.

But then fhs player will only go for the club that have the money bag to throw at him and where he will be most active in games,  instead of being in a team that plays you for just a while and keeps you on reserve.
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November 02, 2023, 10:13:22 PM
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€100million for Ivan Toney, a player that's yet to feature for the UEFA Champions League in his career. Ivan Toney is my favorite Brentford player; I've missed watching the Englishman play for the Bees this season; he made a few indiscretions that resulted up with a FIFA ban for an extended period of time, but he's obviously working and trying to remain in the prerequisite for his comeback next year. Ivan Toney may be overhyped, but he's terrific. I respect the player's confidence in taking penalties, and he has never missed a penalty in a Brentford jersey. We have overhyped guys in the system simply by watching them perform on the field, only to discover they are inconsistent and have minimal to give the club. Ivan Toney is one of Brentford's outstanding frontlines; he's experienced and accessible.

This valuation of money has actually been one of bad effects of the modern day football. A mid table team attacker had one or two outstanding season then we see a Market price which is ridiculous. Some great talents have been wasted because if the Pressures coming from been signed for huge amount. Almost every $100 million player usually have a rough first season and he sometimes gets the backing of the coach and gets better in the following season but most at times there career takes a huge low.

Concerning Ivan Tooney, if he does comes back in form. Then I think we might be seeing the next 100 million rated player. My major reason is the English media usually hype there players and the fellow English clubs who do not mind spending will definitely get him.

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November 02, 2023, 10:25:08 PM
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€100million for Ivan Toney, a player that's yet to feature for the UEFA Champions League in his career. Ivan Toney is my favorite Brentford player; I've missed watching the Englishman play for the Bees this season; he made a few indiscretions that resulted up with a FIFA ban for an extended period of time, but he's obviously working and trying to remain in the prerequisite for his comeback next year. Ivan Toney may be overhyped, but he's terrific. I respect the player's confidence in taking penalties, and he has never missed a penalty in a Brentford jersey. We have overhyped guys in the system simply by watching them perform on the field, only to discover they are inconsistent and have minimal to give the club. Ivan Toney is one of Brentford's outstanding frontlines; he's experienced and accessible.

This valuation of money has actually been one of bad effects of the modern day football. A mid table team attacker had one or two outstanding season then we see a Market price which is ridiculous. Some great talents have been wasted because if the Pressures coming from been signed for huge amount. Almost every $100 million player usually have a rough first season and he sometimes gets the backing of the coach and gets better in the following season but most at times there career takes a huge low.

Concerning Ivan Tooney, if he does comes back in form. Then I think we might be seeing the next 100 million rated player. My major reason is the English media usually hype there players and the fellow English clubs who do not mind spending will definitely get him.
One of the main reasons why we didn't see most of the young and potential English football talents fail to live up to their expectations is the fact that British media excessively hypes them and makes them to think they're already superstar even when they're nothing close to being football stars.
Ivan Toney is a good striker but putting a €100 million price tag on his is just too much for a player of his qualities. He is not worth such amount of money if you ask me.

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November 02, 2023, 10:33:17 PM
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Ivan Toney may not be back yet but he has been playing soccer behind close door games. 45 Million Euros for Ivan Toney is worth it, let me say he will make better impact than most of Manchester United attacking players right now.
Arsenal was amongst clubs chasing Ivan Toney and I've also wanted to see that. With Gabriel Jesus most likely absent, Nketiah not consistent, Ivan Toney will be a perfect backing for Mikel Arteta's squad.

Let go of the past. Now he has all it takes to succeed in the Premier League. Either of Chelsea and Arsenal would be chasing after him.

Talking about this striker from Brentford, based on my personal assumptions referring to his statistics, AI fits the criteria for being a pure striker for Arsenal and this striker was able to score 20 goals in the 22/23 season. Well, if he was part of Arsenal maybe he could play better than playing for Brentford. however, if I refer to the Sky Sports report that Brentford will ask for £100 million for Chelsea and Arsenal targets Ivan Toney. Previously, the prolific striker continued to serve an eight-month ban from all football-related activities, but his long-term future was still wide open.

Rumor has it that the Bees have placed a £100m valuation on Toney in a bid to quash interest in their striker, with Spurs also mentioned as a potential destination. Toney will return to action on January 16, and it would take a proposal for Brentford to agree a mid-season transfer for their main man. It seems that Brentford will not remove this sticker. because they have no solution regarding the tough task they will face in January amidst plans to retain the striker's services at least until the end of the season. That's why Brentford priced it at such a fantastic price.

So, it is very likely that the teams that want his services will slowly withdraw. except, if several interested teams have a reliable strategy in negotiating. Moreover, if Toney has a release clause that is not too expensive. meaning, he has the potential to leave in January. if that happens, with a transfer of 45 million euros, it doesn't seem to be a problem for Arsenal. However, I doubt that this player will leave Brentford in January.

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November 02, 2023, 10:33:29 PM
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One of the main reasons why we didn't see most of the young and potential English football talents fail to live up to their expectations is the fact that British media excessively hypes them and makes them to think they're already superstar even when they're nothing close to being football stars.
Ivan Toney is a good striker but putting a €100 million price tag on his is just too much for a player of his qualities. He is not worth such amount of money if you ask me.
€100Million is a Whooping amount to spend on just a player, who might turned out to become a flop in less than no time. Don't get me wrong, Ivan Toney is a classic top striker for Brentford, and if the team would triggered his sell clause, they will place hugh price tag on him because he's an important player in their squad and selling him will persuade them to sign his replacement and making quite reasonable profits from him. However, Ivan Toney is in an average team, setting limits on the English player from anticipating in elite competitions this season, so the will be in the range of €50-70Million within.

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November 02, 2023, 10:40:58 PM
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I heard that he extended his contract with Real until 2027 so it is obvious that he is staying. But I would like him to concentrate more on football and not on racists (even if there are a lot of them in the football environment) - after all, he cannot change them and why waste energy on them if he needs to concentrate on football? He needs to accept the fact that any star football player lives his whole life under enormous pressure from haters and learn not to pay attention to it.
It is official that Vinicius already extends his contract with Real Madrid. He will stay in Real Madrid, his new contract expires in 2027. I also don't see a reason that may lead Vinicius to leave Real Madrid, he is happy in Real Madrid. As long as Vinicius can be the main player in Real Madrid, he probably doesn't think to move to a new club. Even if there is another club that offer a higher salary, but they can guarantee to win prestigious trophy.

About the racists, it doesn't come from Real Madrid management or Real Madrid players. So, he doesn't have a reason to hate and leave the squad. As far as I know, Real Madrid management always gives a big support to him. Real Madrid management is also against the racists.


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November 02, 2023, 10:45:19 PM
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One of the main reasons why we didn't see most of the young and potential English football talents fail to live up to their expectations is the fact that British media excessively hypes them and makes them to think they're already superstar even when they're nothing close to being football stars.
Ivan Toney is a good striker but putting a €100 million price tag on his is just too much for a player of his qualities. He is not worth such amount of money if you ask me.
You're right this is a pretty impossible number for another team to be able to buy Ivan toney I mean they wouldn't spend that much money on a sticker. Moreover, Ivan Toney was not able to make much progress for Brentford last season, but his goal contribution last season was certainly very good, but the price of 100 million is certainly not an appropriate price for him. But apart from that, I also think that brentford wants to keep him with them longer so the club sets a high price to prevent other team from being able to buy him.

Apart from that, Ivan Toney will play for Brentford probably in the second half of the season after the ban he received. For Chelsea, maybe they don't care about player prices because we have seen how Chelsea performed in the last summer window where they were able to buy players at higher prices. Tood Boehly seems to be aware of Pochettino request if he wants to improve his front line in the January transfer window.

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About the racists, it doesn't come from Real Madrid management or Real Madrid players. So, he doesn't have a reason to hate and leave the squad. As far as I know, Real Madrid management always gives a big support to him. Real Madrid management is also against the racists.

Indeed, it did not come from Madrid but if you look at the last time that happened to Vini it clearly had a bad impact on trust not to Madrid but to La Liga so that when Madrid has now extended the contract then indirectly they must be able to fight for Vini's rights which are indeed like being snatched by La Liga because he is a victim but he seems to be a suspect when racism tortured him last season.
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One of the main reasons why we didn't see most of the young and potential English football talents fail to live up to their expectations is the fact that British media excessively hypes them and makes them to think they're already superstar even when they're nothing close to being football stars.
Ivan Toney is a good striker but putting a €100 million price tag on his is just too much for a player of his qualities. He is not worth such amount of money if you ask me.

I equally have the same opinion as to what you opined. What maked the English leagues remains at the top in terms of watch and attention is simply because of their topnotch media hypes and promotions of their activities. This has gone to alsp affect positively on how the players in the English league and respected and valued.

When you have a good look at the trend out there, you will find out that most young and upcoming players are yearning to play a part of their career in the Premier League or UEFA championship league in general.

This is because it is one of the most talked about in the world right now and you want to have that validity as a player that you are at the top of your career performance and what not. La Liga would have done better too but there's little more competition to be added despite the El-Classico rivals which have great world attention too.

In the English teams, we have the likes of the London Derby, Manchester Derby and so on. I also see Saudi Pro League coming up with the amount of efforts those clubs are putting into recruiting reputable players lately.

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I'm curious about one thing as well. There is the Cup of Nations in January therefore Andre Onana is going to be a part of this tournament as well. This means that he will probably miss seven games with Manchester United. As a result I wonder whether the Red Devils would plan a goalkeeper transfer on loan at least.
I think Manchester United needs another goalkeeper, not one that would come on loan, they have to sign another good goalkeeper, so there can be competition in the goalkeeping position, i even think it would help Onana to improve a lot, right now whether he plays bad or not, he knows he isn't going to be dropped because there is no competent replacement.

A new goalkeeper in January must definitely be in their plans, and once Onana is back from the African cup of nations, he and the new goalkeeper can now start competing for who would be number 1.

There are so many things to improve for the Red Devils at the moment unfortunately. Their defending is poor and I can't talk different about their attacking either. They are having serious problems on scoring enough number of goals. For example in the Premier League they have scored only 11 goals in 10 games.

However I believe this is because of the serious level of drop in the morale of the players. You know how great Rashford was in the previous season. But now he is performing really terrible.

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November 02, 2023, 10:58:21 PM
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So now is every player who is impressive now worth 100m? I think this value (100m) is so underrated nowadays, any player who is hot for just a season suddenly carries the 100m price tag nowadays and i think it’s bad. Ivan Toney is a good striker that can still improve but until then i don’t think he is worth 100m just yet. This is why we see a lot of 100m flops nowadays because they are being overhyped.
100M seems to be the normal price for any team that wants to sell their top player. Ivan Toney may not be worth that price to you, but to Brentford he is worth that price because he is one of their best players. Also if clubs like Brighton could sell Moises Caicedo for that price and West Ham for around that price too, Brentford will try to push their luck. Ivan Toney is a goal scorer for Brentford, so that price reflects their interest that they are not so much in a hurry to sell him off.
If we are seeing those players based on their experience and what they have achieved and i would say those clubs are so crazy in putting 100m as standard of selling their players. It's such a scam. Those guys have no experience nor trophy being won. I see no reason to put 100m price tag for him except the greediness from their club in grabbing money from the big club as much as possible. This is also my main reason why paying 100m for someone who has no experience in the football is pure gambling and chelsea has done it many times.
You just see how chelsea is now struggling in winning the game and that proves that if there was no player priced 100m aws worth with their price. Some players like rice or even caicedo are still playing far from what people wanted from them.
This is also a sense reason why brighton is being so greedy as hell due to the its competitors which were also pricing their players like they though 100m was a small money. Chelsea and arsenal needs to put toney as secondary option to be bought from brentford.

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November 02, 2023, 10:59:51 PM
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I think Toney deserves this value because he played successful matches in Brentford. His name is mentioned with Chelsea and Arsenal and I think he can easily play in both teams. A quality player always stands out and I think Toney proved that a long time ago. Of course, these teams should make good economic calculations if they are going to pay £ 100 M for him.
So now is every player who is impressive now worth 100m? I think this value (100m) is so underrated nowadays, any player who is hot for just a season suddenly carries the 100m price tag nowadays and i think it’s bad. Ivan Toney is a good striker that can still improve but until then i don’t think he is worth 100m just yet. This is why we see a lot of 100m flops nowadays because they are being overhyped.

If i were Chelsea I would rather go all out to sign Victor Osimehn for 150m than sign Ivan Toney for 100m. Toney still needs to prove himself in a different team or for another more season to prove he is worth 100m. He can end up a flop and also end up being a top signing but since there is no assurance I wouldn’t want them to risk it. Every team wants to sell their best players for the latest selling price tag.
Have been habit with all Premier League player have crazy values although they are less experience playing with top teams and not winning any tittle yet but their previous teams have minimum bid offer above 100 million euro. I think crazy with Chelsea want to sign Brentford player Ivan Toney and release transfer fees above 100 million euro because he hasn't special achievement and playing with Brentford can't guarantee will get top performed when playing for Chelsea.

Your opinion is right, better sign Victor Osimhen have much experienced with winning scudetto last season and lead top scorer in Serie A with 150 million euro as fees transfer, but bid doubt current Chelsea condition not playing in European competition are there have interested values from top players joining with Chelsea?

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November 02, 2023, 11:08:20 PM
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[I felt it was very difficult for them to equal this record. We shouldn't discuss whether they will make it or not Because this problem is extraordinary. Recently, I witnessed Messi surpass Mbappé and Haaland to continue receiving the 8th Golden Ball of his career. Ronaldo is nearly 40 years old but is still the top scorer. I know it's too early to judge this.
Messi has created a record that would be very difficult for Mbappé, Haaland or Jude Bellingham to attain, I don't think it would be possible for a player to achieve 8 Ballon D'or for Decades, well Ronaldo managed to get about 5, making him one of the greatest players of all time, however he's off the race cause he's 40 and is not even involved in a top European competition this season.

 However I think the next Ballon D'or title would be amongst the other 3 younger players, Mbappé, Haaland and Bellingham amongst all of them Haaland has more chances of winning again based on how close he got to win it last season and his team is currently doing well in the UCL and league competition however Mbappé has a good advantage when it comes to country side matches cause France is performing better than Norway and England in country matches.

That's right, a new era has begun. Messi and Ronaldo have left the European arena. Let's give the playing field to young stars. Compared to the talent these young stars show, They are still inferior to Messi and Ronaldo when they were young. However, time is still long for them to develop.
Haaland will be the person with the most advantages in the European arena. He has talented teammates and teacher, Pep Guardiola. Bellingham is playing for Europe's top club. It was only a matter of time before he won titles. When Mbappé played for PSG, they only appeared vigorous in the domestic tournament. Compared to this season's Champions League, they are completely inferior. But Mbappé still proved his courage to shoulder the burden. And even more impressive is that he and the French team won the 2018 World Cup championship. Continuing in 2022, they were unlucky enough to only win second place. The French team is very solid. It is possible for them to win another World Cup again. ‘The trophy that every star desires in their career.’

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November 02, 2023, 11:31:17 PM
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I heard that he extended his contract with Real until 2027 so it is obvious that he is staying. But I would like him to concentrate more on football and not on racists (even if there are a lot of them in the football environment) - after all, he cannot change them and why waste energy on them if he needs to concentrate on football? He needs to accept the fact that any star football player lives his whole life under enormous pressure from haters and learn not to pay attention to it.
It is official that Vinicius already extends his contract with Real Madrid. He will stay in Real Madrid, his new contract expires in 2027. I also don't see a reason that may lead Vinicius to leave Real Madrid, he is happy in Real Madrid. As long as Vinicius can be the main player in Real Madrid, he probably doesn't think to move to a new club. Even if there is another club that offer a higher salary, but they can guarantee to win prestigious trophy.
It's a non sense thing to expect vini to leave from real madrid and join in another club. Vini has joined in the best club in the world which is winning most of UCL trophies. No reason for him to go out from there. It's not only vini that has extended his contract but rodrygo has been also doing the same like him at this moment. Rodrygo has been officially extending his contract till 2028. Im so happy to see that the key players of real madrids have agreed to stay much longer in the club. This is the best decision from all of them regarding the future of his career.
They were on top of his careers and it doesn't even make sense if they were interesting to reuin it.

About the racists, it doesn't come from Real Madrid management or Real Madrid players. So, he doesn't have a reason to hate and leave the squad. As far as I know, Real Madrid management always gives a big support to him. Real Madrid management is also against the racists.
The racists was coming from other club's supporter and there's no reason to linked it with real madrid. La liga needs to sort out the racism in the league as soon as possible by making a regulation regarding sanction that will be received by a club that can't handle their fans in preventing racism toward the player.

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November 02, 2023, 11:40:51 PM
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After Man United's poor start under the guidance of Ten Hag this season, Man United fans and management are gradually losing patience with the Dutch coach. Therefore, we should soon discuss who will be a suitable replacement for this position.
Zinedine Zidane is the name that every club desires, but bringing him back to coaching is not easy. Roberto De Zerbi, Michael Carrick, Diego Simeone, Julen Lopetegui, and Graham Potter will be names the management will pay attention to if they intend to fire Ten Hag.

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November 02, 2023, 11:49:12 PM
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After Man United's poor start under the guidance of Ten Hag this season, Man United fans and management are gradually losing patience with the Dutch coach. Therefore, we should soon discuss who will be a suitable replacement for this position.
Zinedine Zidane is the name that every club desires, but bringing him back to coaching is not easy. Roberto De Zerbi, Michael Carrick, Diego Simeone, Julen Lopetegui, and Graham Potter will be names the management will pay attention to if they intend to fire Ten Hag.

I think that it's too good to be true top recruit zidane as a new appointment. I have seen some articles published by legit sources were saying that if zidane has the largest chance in joining manchester united as a new of head coach which is too good to be true.
I don't even expect he will be willing to go to the manchester to discuss it. I don't even know where the heck this rumor was coming from but those articles may also probably be wrong  cuz this is still remain a speculation at this moment.
People are so confusing to think which was the most potential coach for united but i guess that if graham potter will be the next coach for manchester united.

Im feeling that graham potter is the best choice for united caused by he can develop manchester united to be a better form than what ten hag did. Ten hag may be doing something wrong to the club.
Potter may able to make MU perform better like when he was in the brighton.

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No for zidane but i said yes for potter.  Cheesy

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November 02, 2023, 11:57:47 PM
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After Man United's poor start under the guidance of Ten Hag this season, Man United fans and management are gradually losing patience with the Dutch coach. Therefore, we should soon discuss who will be a suitable replacement for this position.
Zinedine Zidane is the name that every club desires, but bringing him back to coaching is not easy. Roberto De Zerbi, Michael Carrick, Diego Simeone, Julen Lopetegui, and Graham Potter will be names the management will pay attention to if they intend to fire Ten Hag.
I think Man United expect too much for the improvement of Man United squad under Ten Hag management. So, they lose their patience when Man United failed to maintain their position in the top 3 of EPL table this season. I think it is too early to consider firing him, why Man United doesn't wait for the end of this season? If they fire Ten Hag now, there is no guarantee they will sign a better coach. How if the new coach will be worse than Ten Hag?

Regarding those candidates, I think it is not easy to ensure Zidane, Simeone, Roberto De Zerbi, or Julen Lopetegui. Man United only have a chance to sign the managers like Graham Potter or Michael Carrick.


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November 03, 2023, 04:28:08 AM
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After Man United's poor start under the guidance of Ten Hag this season, Man United fans and management are gradually losing patience with the Dutch coach. Therefore, we should soon discuss who will be a suitable replacement for this position.
Zinedine Zidane is the name that every club desires, but bringing him back to coaching is not easy. Roberto De Zerbi, Michael Carrick, Diego Simeone, Julen Lopetegui, and Graham Potter will be names the management will pay attention to if they intend to fire Ten Hag.
I think Man United expect too much for the improvement of Man United squad under Ten Hag management. So, they lose their patience when Man United failed to maintain their position in the top 3 of EPL table this season. I think it is too early to consider firing him, why Man United doesn't wait for the end of this season? If they fire Ten Hag now, there is no guarantee they will sign a better coach. How if the new coach will be worse than Ten Hag?

Regarding those candidates, I think it is not easy to ensure Zidane, Simeone, Roberto De Zerbi, or Julen Lopetegui. Man United only have a chance to sign the managers like Graham Potter or Michael Carrick.
Indeed, there is no guarantee that it will be better with the new coach, but at least there have been changes made to the team, now it is clear that Ten Hag has failed to make progress in the Manchester United team, so there is nothing more to expect from Ten Hag, I think Manchester United management deserves to fire Ten Hag now.

Yes, it is indeed difficult to find a great coach to be willing to handle a team that is so devastated like Manchester United, but I really hope that Manchester United's management will do it, with whoever it is, at least they will make an effort to save the Manchester United team from an even deeper decline at the hands of Ten Hag. .

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