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Today at 11:10:43 AM
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De Gea back? is this real? of course it will still be news that makes us curious. Smiley

As has been reported if De Gea will go to Italy to sign a contract with Genoa and with this he can enjoy his activities as a professional football player again. It is not easy for a goalkeeper who is still good enough for the European level and I hope this can give a different color to his career.

If this process goes well then it is certain that De Gea will not waste his time anymore to continue doing individual training and he can provide his experience to a different league that he has never visited. I think Genoa has made the right move by recruiting De Gea after their previous goalkeeper Josep Martinez joined Inter some time ago.
Genoa seems like not the level of team he should be playing, and I never understood why he said no to Saudi Arabia if he is going to play at Genoa level club, I thought he said no to many teams last year, just because he wanted to play at a decent team, and missing a whole season is not really worth playing at Genoa to be fair.

If he wanted this level, he could have played at Genoa level team last season as well, I am sure there were many offers. If he comes back now, and plays there, I am sure that he will be more than good enough but it is going to be weird for him, going from being a great United goalkeeper to a player nobody wanted for a whole year so he ended up with genoa instead, that ain't really that great at all.

Hopefully, he could at least prove himself and get a few more seasons at a better team after this. If not, might as well go to Saudi league, so he could get some good amount of money as well, that would definitely help them. Not saying that he is going to be great, we could end up with something much better with time, it is going to be something that will be taking a little bit of time but it could very well happen for him, and could make a lot of money there.

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Today at 11:15:31 AM
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Is Ironic his replacement has not really been doing well, though ignoring his drama with Manchester United I think he should lower his wages for at least a season or two in order to prove he still in good shape to earn more because I think even Saudi teams won't really give him an high wage as he ought to have earn except he can prove he still got his skill in him.

De Gea has a salary value that must be paid by Manchester United is too big so the management decided not to extend his contract after negotiating a salary reduction.
But did not get a decision because De Gea himself still insisted on not wanting his salary reduced.
If you look at De Gea's ability, it was still quite good before his contract ended and he even became an irreplaceable goalkeeper at Old Trafford. The arrival of Onana changed everything even though if you look at the abilities of both of them I can say De Gea is a little better.

Rumors are circulating that De Gea is getting some proposals now and there are several teams interested in recruiting him.
But if he asks for a big salary, the Saudi Arabian League is much more capable than joining a European club with the hope of a big salary.
The current era of football will be quite difficult to survive if you do not follow the new rules of the club. Manchester United is already in the hands of different people and De Gea can no longer maintain the same principles so when offered the option of a salary reduction he refused. Now it can be said that De Gea is not very marketable in the market, except for Saudi Arabian clubs and European clubs who are loyal and want to get his signature. In the EPL everything has changed so I don't see De Gea future in the Premier League. He is still 33 years old and in terms of productivity is still worthy in Europe but no longer in the Premier League.

Maybe in the future Bayern Munich has interest as an option to replace Manuel Neuer. It would be great if that happened but the Saudi Arabian Club could get De Gea much faster.

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Today at 11:30:01 AM
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Rumors: Man United will buy Manuel Ugarte. Manuel Ugarte is a PSG midfielder, Ten Hag seems to have put Manuel Ugarte on the main transfer list after the 5 transfers he made. But Man United have to sell one of their midfielders to be able to get him. Casemiro is reportedly interested in Arab clubs, while Scott McTominay is interested in Fulham. There are indeed several players who are interested by other clubs, Ten Hag seems to be going to sell one of them.  Because Man United had to pay £59 million to buy Manuel Ugarte.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1929613/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Manuel-Ugarte

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Today at 11:47:17 AM
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Rumors: Man United will buy Manuel Ugarte. Manuel Ugarte is a PSG midfielder, Ten Hag seems to have put Manuel Ugarte on the main transfer list after the 5 transfers he made. But Man United have to sell one of their midfielders to be able to get him. Casemiro is reportedly interested in Arab clubs, while Scott McTominay is interested in Fulham. There are indeed several players who are interested by other clubs, Ten Hag seems to be going to sell one of them.  Because Man United had to pay £59 million to buy Manuel Ugarte.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1929613/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Manuel-Ugarte
Casemiro has to go, although he has been of on the top performers in Manchester United since joining them. But he is already getting old and he has been having injury problems lately, It won't be a difficult decision for Ten Hag to make. Manchester United midfield need a fresh leg, and if I am to choose between Scott McTominay and Casemiro I will choose McTominay and let let Casemiro go. But if Manchester United can afford to bring in two new midfielders to replace Casemiro and McTominay it will be good. The two of them has been playing that midfield for years now and nothing special has happened. Manchester United don't have to miss Manuel Ugarte, he has been on their transfer list sine the transfer window opened, and his transfer fee is not what Manchester United can't afford. They should bring money and get good players and forget about buying fringe players that has started picking up injuries while the season has not even started.

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Today at 11:50:03 AM
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The way I see it, Conte is desperate to ship off Osimhen and will accept  any offer, no matter how absurd to get him but in the aspect of reducing the fee like Todd Boehly is expecting, I don't think it's going to work because by reducing the price tag of one of the best ( if not the best strikers ) you've got at Napoli will certainly set tongues wagging and I don't think Antonio Conte is willing to risk that happening so a deal that includes Osimhen plus cash seems fair but it would be very bad to let the player go just the way they are desperately trying to do after all he did for the club, at least let there be some form of regard or respect for the player.
 If not that a player like Lukaku is involved I believe other EPL clubs would have jumped into the deal and snatch it off from Chelsea because it seems the Blues are still waiting for the price tag to be very low like they can't pay, to me is not right the way the Napoli side are taking this deal.
Osimhen moved to Chelsea is a loan moved with an option to buy which seems reasonably and I don't think this is because of the fee rather more likely his injury history which has always made me to be Sceptical about his moved to Chelsea.

I don't think Conte wanted to by all means sell Osimhen instead they're looking for a more bigger cash out since it seems like personal terms with Osimhen  where agree by PSG before the deal fell out because of Napoli asking price

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Today at 12:01:19 PM
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Osimhen moved to Chelsea is a loan moved with an option to buy which seems reasonably and I don't think this is because of the fee rather more likely his injury history which has always made me to be Sceptical about his moved to Chelsea.

I don't think Conte wanted to by all means sell Osimhen instead they're looking for a more bigger cash out since it seems like personal terms with Osimhen  where agree by PSG before the deal fell out because of Napoli asking price
So it is still unclear about the agreement whether PSG or Chelsea are closer, we know Napoli want Lukaku because this is what Conte wants as his new coach, on the other hand the news says there will be a Lukaku - Osimhen player exchange but it is not clear which one is closer to Osimhen.

Some time ago Osimhen's friend and senior player he believes Osimhen will be closer to Chelsea but PSG will be more promising from the offer and salary, this may just wait for a personal agreement between Osimhen and his club.

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Today at 12:13:19 PM
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In Barcelona, since Flick joined this team, they have been trying to hire players and they want to get the team improved. Dani Olmo is the player they wanted to hire this player for the next season.
His good performance in Leipzig made Barcelona send him an offer.
But it seems the offer was not good enough and Leipzig said they would let his god for 60 million euros while Barcelona wanted to give 45 million euros.

 

I don't think it's about the price. What Barcelona offers is quite reasonable for the youngsters but Leipzig seems not to let go of the player. Taking a good look at his performance especially in the just finished Euro competition, he's been actually amazing but the price tag Leipzig is asking is little bit high. I see it as a deliberate attempt not to let go of youngster. Barcelona is showing keen interest and they will probably offer to pay much more than the initial bid but I don't think they will agree to pay £60m as demanded by Leipzig.

Rumors: Man United will buy Manuel Ugarte. Manuel Ugarte is a PSG midfielder, Ten Hag seems to have put Manuel Ugarte on the main transfer list after the 5 transfers he made. But Man United have to sell one of their midfielders to be able to get him. Casemiro is reportedly interested in Arab clubs, while Scott McTominay is interested in Fulham. There are indeed several players who are interested by other clubs, Ten Hag seems to be going to sell one of them.  Because Man United had to pay £59 million to buy Manuel Ugarte.

Source: https://
www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1929613/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Manuel-Ugarte

Manuel Ugarte link with Manchester united is not a rumor despite the deal is yet to be completed. The player is also keen to join united but PSG want to loan him out instead of allowing him to join the club on permanent deal. If the deal later see the light of the day, it would be the perfect deal for the reds this summer.

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Today at 12:21:03 PM
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There are huge salary awaiting the spaniard goalkeeper but due to his standards and his non-involvement with players, he's out of reach and his country didn't call him. We believe DDG and his agent are working effortlessly to ensure they secured a deal that's worthy. Precisely, not a good thing to see David De Gea is without a club in the current days. He's basically productive for his former club, Manchester United
David De Gea doesn't want to reduce his market value.

Athletes are only productive when they get a contract at a club, by him not wanting to get or sign a contract, De Gea is wasting his life, imagine him being like this until he is 38, is he even getting the same value as Genoa is offering? i'm not sure. From the existing news, he has 3 contract offers, if one of them is not executed immediately, i don't know what else to say to De Gea, he can be said to be an arrogant player in terms of business.


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Today at 12:23:20 PM
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Osimhen to Chelsea? Could this happen with a Lukaku swap? Roll Eyes

Napoli have had more detailed discussions about this deal and Chelsea seem very open as long as they benefit. Lukaku's transfer process is still not finished and here Napoli directly made an offer that was difficult for Chelsea to refuse where by only giving Lukaku, Chelsea would have the opportunity to get Osimhen permanently.

Well, this will be even more interesting but of course it is not easy and here Osimhen is reported to be loaned to Chelsea first but Chelsea has a buy option at the end of the loan period. Surely Chelsea will be very happy to pay the fee Napoli wants as long as it doesn't drain their pockets and of course with the Lukaku swap, Osimhen's price will be cheaper.

How do you see the exchange of players between these two clubs? Is Napoli too careless to let go of Osimhen?

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Today at 12:24:23 PM
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Even if Maguire performance has showed positive improvement. I personally think his performance is still below the level what we expected. Maguire has the highest salary of the defender in Man United, Man United bought him with huge money. This player should show something special in the field, but mostly he showed a controversial thing. If I were Man United board, I will prefer selling Maguire because he is mostly used as a substituted player in Man United squad now. Since Man United already has Yoro, I guess Man United will plan to set Lisandro Martínez and Leny Yoro as their main centre-backs.

This can be the lineup of Man United for the season 2024-2025



What improvements and development please? I'm not pained, but there's nothing good Harry Maguire has got to offer Manchester United. Manchester United fans backing him up should be ashamed of themselves. Really, they're forgetting what it means to have standards.

He has never been a great player, forget the media hype's and all sky sports did during his last few days with Leicester City. I never fancied him. When you look at great defenders like Maldini, Nesta, Vidic, John Terry, you'll never call Harry Maguire a great defender. He is not a special player, he has nothing special to offer Manchester United. Take a look at his payroll and he is the fourth choice defender for Manchester United. Ain't that laughable?

As much as they can get de Ligt from Bayern Munich, I don't see him starting for Erik Ten Hag. He would only get chances during the EFL Cup Competition and also the Fa Cup Competition.
There's nothing cool about the above Manchester United squad depth, don't deceive yourself. It's be another season in shambles if they don't get Erik Ten Hag quality players. Erik Ten Hag is not a bad manager, I'm hoping the targeted players are brought in before the next two weeks.

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Today at 12:44:56 PM
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The current era of football will be quite difficult to survive if you do not follow the new rules of the club. Manchester United is already in the hands of different people and De Gea can no longer maintain the same principles so when offered the option of a salary reduction he refused. Now it can be said that De Gea is not very marketable in the market, except for Saudi Arabian clubs and European clubs who are loyal and want to get his signature. In the EPL everything has changed so I don't see De Gea future in the Premier League. He is still 33 years old and in terms of productivity is still worthy in Europe but no longer in the Premier League.

Maybe in the future Bayern Munich has interest as an option to replace Manuel Neuer. It would be great if that happened but the Saudi Arabian Club could get De Gea much faster.
After his departure from Manchester United until now, De Gea has not yet found team again and there have been several reports circulating stating that he will return to Manchester United but in reality it has failed.
Apart from that, there is also news that mentions Genoa interest in bringing in De Gea because they had previously sold Josep Martinez to Inter Milan, but unfortunately it came back again and again, as was the case some time ago, where they failed to reach an agreement.
Everything happened because of salary issues and indeed De Gea, who is one of Europe top goalkeepers, is among the goalkeepers with quite high salaries, no team can afford to pay him except for the big team and the Saudi team.

For Bayern Munich itself, I sure he will be able to provide the salary that De Gea is asking for, but the problem is whether they will really have an interest in bringing in De Gea.
I not sure this will happen and the only immediate option to reach an agreement with De Gea is the Saudi team.

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Today at 12:46:35 PM
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Osimhen to Chelsea? Could this happen with a Lukaku swap? Roll Eyes

Napoli have had more detailed discussions about this deal and Chelsea seem very open as long as they benefit. Lukaku's transfer process is still not finished and here Napoli directly made an offer that was difficult for Chelsea to refuse where by only giving Lukaku, Chelsea would have the opportunity to get Osimhen permanently.

Well, this will be even more interesting but of course it is not easy and here Osimhen is reported to be loaned to Chelsea first but Chelsea has a buy option at the end of the loan period. Surely Chelsea will be very happy to pay the fee Napoli wants as long as it doesn't drain their pockets and of course with the Lukaku swap, Osimhen's price will be cheaper.

How do you see the exchange of players between these two clubs? Is Napoli too careless to let go of Osimhen?
According to reports, Napoli is offering Victor Osimhen on loan in exchange for a permanent deal for Romelu Lukaku. The deal might be for one year with a clause for a permanent deal if Chelsea qualifies for the Champions League. Lukaku's wage is about £325,000 a week and Chelsea will be willing to offload him. The Belgian international has already accepted to take a pay cut in Napoli and a three-year contract.

The problem now is the willingness of Victor to move to London after he has had an agreement with PSG. He would prefer to move to France since they will be playing in the UCL. But if PSG is not coming up with a convincing deal, the Nigerian might have to take any contract he gets from any club in Europe. Chelsea's performance in the preseason has shown that they need to have a natural striker.

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Today at 12:52:26 PM
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Osimhen to Chelsea? Could this happen with a Lukaku swap? Roll Eyes

Napoli have had more detailed discussions about this deal and Chelsea seem very open as long as they benefit. Lukaku's transfer process is still not finished and here Napoli directly made an offer that was difficult for Chelsea to refuse where by only giving Lukaku, Chelsea would have the opportunity to get Osimhen permanently.

Well, this will be even more interesting but of course it is not easy and here Osimhen is reported to be loaned to Chelsea first but Chelsea has a buy option at the end of the loan period. Surely Chelsea will be very happy to pay the fee Napoli wants as long as it doesn't drain their pockets and of course with the Lukaku swap, Osimhen's price will be cheaper.

How do you see the exchange of players between these two clubs? Is Napoli too careless to let go of Osimhen?
It seems to me that there are too many components to this transfer, that's why it will be so difficult to implement, sometimes even just a transfer is difficult to do, because there are too many conditions on both sides, and here there are two players and two teams and it will be very difficult to take everything into account in order to come to a single agreement.
The main snag in this deal is Osimhen, who only wants to move to a top club, he is not considering options with Saudi Arabia, and PSG are not ready to pay 130 million for him, which is obviously too high a price. So far I do not believe that this transfer with exchanges can take place, this is more for discussion in the press.

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Today at 01:24:32 PM
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In Barcelona, since Flick joined this team, they have been trying to hire players and they want to get the team improved. Dani Olmo is the player they wanted to hire this player for the next season.
His good performance in Leipzig made Barcelona send him an offer.
But it seems the offer was not good enough and Leipzig said they would let his god for 60 million euros while Barcelona wanted to give 45 million euros.

 
Barcelona are in a very tight position at the moment. They want to bring in some players but they don’t have the finances to do so.€45m is a lot of money for them and I don’t even think they can play that outrightly at the moment. It will have to be structured and with threads of clauses.
Dani Olmo is a very decent player that would fancy a move to Barcelona but I don’t know if it’ll materialize. Barcelona will have to negotiate with Leipzig if they really want to sign him. I think the only realistic hope of Barcelona getting him will require them to sell off some players in other to pursue this deal, and they’re looking to sell Raphinha, but the asking fee will chase away many clubs that are interested in the player.

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Today at 01:35:00 PM
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De Gea back? is this real? of course it will still be news that makes us curious. Smiley

As has been reported if De Gea will go to Italy to sign a contract with Genoa and with this he can enjoy his activities as a professional football player again. It is not easy for a goalkeeper who is still good enough for the European level and I hope this can give a different color to his career.

If this process goes well then it is certain that De Gea will not waste his time anymore to continue doing individual training and he can provide his experience to a different league that he has never visited. I think Genoa has made the right move by recruiting De Gea after their previous goalkeeper Josep Martinez joined Inter some time ago.
Genoa seems like not the level of team he should be playing, and I never understood why he said no to Saudi Arabia if he is going to play at Genoa level club, I thought he said no to many teams last year, just because he wanted to play at a decent team, and missing a whole season is not really worth playing at Genoa to be fair.

If he wanted this level, he could have played at Genoa level team last season as well, I am sure there were many offers. If he comes back now, and plays there, I am sure that he will be more than good enough but it is going to be weird for him, going from being a great United goalkeeper to a player nobody wanted for a whole year so he ended up with genoa instead, that ain't really that great at all.

Hopefully, he could at least prove himself and get a few more seasons at a better team after this. If not, might as well go to Saudi league, so he could get some good amount of money as well, that would definitely help them. Not saying that he is going to be great, we could end up with something much better with time, it is going to be something that will be taking a little bit of time but it could very well happen for him, and could make a lot of money there.
Of course it's not about money or having a lot of money when accepting an offer from a club from Saudi Arabia, and this is a matter of the player's desire when he still wants to play in Europe so it's natural for players to reject clubs from Saudi Arabia, Genoa is a big Italian club, it's no wonder that De Gea got an offer from Genoa which according to Genoa he still has good quality of play so I think it's right for De Gea to play in Italy.

Because we know that the Serie A competition is in its best condition in several competitions in general, plus the tight competition at the top of Serie A in fighting for the title, and many players are involved in Serie A in enlivening this competition.

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Today at 01:46:42 PM
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Rumors: Man United will buy Manuel Ugarte. Manuel Ugarte is a PSG midfielder, Ten Hag seems to have put Manuel Ugarte on the main transfer list after the 5 transfers he made. But Man United have to sell one of their midfielders to be able to get him. Casemiro is reportedly interested in Arab clubs, while Scott McTominay is interested in Fulham. There are indeed several players who are interested by other clubs, Ten Hag seems to be going to sell one of them.  Because Man United had to pay £59 million to buy Manuel Ugarte.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1929613/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Manuel-Ugarte


It's gonna be a very easy task for United to recruit Ugarte from PSG. Ugarte reached a personal term with Manchester United last week. Talks on the contract are still ongoing. Things get easier for United to get Ugarte because of Mendes is also his agent. Ugarte is under the same agent as Leny Yoro.

About which player to sell, I'd prefer Manchester United to sell Casemiro, not Tominay. Though Ten Hag's project doesn't include them, Tominay is still useful. Casemiro is finished now, and it's time for Manchester United to cash in on him. I remember some rumor that Al Nassr prepared €100 million to get Casemiro from United.

That's enough to say, United can get Ugarte + some cash after they cash in Casemiro. A worthy strategy to try.

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Today at 01:53:36 PM
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Athletes are only productive when they get a contract at a club, by him not wanting to get or sign a contract, De Gea is wasting his life, imagine him being like this until he is 38, is he even getting the same value as Genoa is offering? i'm not sure. From the existing news, he has 3 contract offers, if one of them is not executed immediately, i don't know what else to say to De Gea, he can be said to be an arrogant player in terms of business.
De Gea still feels like a great goalkeeper, but age can affect his performance. De Gea demands for a large salary are unreasonable as he ages. Luckily there are still clubs in Europe like Genoa who compete in Serie A who want to use his services even though he was absent for a season. He has to lower his rates if he wants to get a club soon, if he wants to play for a bigger club, it is clearly impossible because he is already 33 years old. The three offers that came his way should be considered, he can still make money even if it is not according to what he wants rather than having to add another season to his rest period.

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Today at 02:12:03 PM
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It's gonna be a very easy task for United to recruit Ugarte from PSG. Ugarte reached a personal term with Manchester United last week. Talks on the contract are still ongoing. Things get easier for United to get Ugarte because of Mendes is also his agent. Ugarte is under the same agent as Leny Yoro.

About which player to sell, I'd prefer Manchester United to sell Casemiro, not Tominay. Though Ten Hag's project doesn't include them, Tominay is still useful. Casemiro is finished now, and it's time for Manchester United to cash in on him. I remember some rumor that Al Nassr prepared €100 million to get Casemiro from United.

That's enough to say, United can get Ugarte + some cash after they cash in Casemiro. A worthy strategy to try.
It's a big joke if Al Nassr want to spend 100 Million Euros for Casemiro, I believe Manchester United would release Casemiro ASAP for such amount since his market value is only 25 Million Euros, so Manchester United will earn three times.

Ugarte is actually a defensive midfielder and his performance is good too, he's consistent enough since he can perform in both Sporting CP and PSG. He's a good replacement for Casemiro.

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Today at 02:13:25 PM
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How do you see the exchange of players between these two clubs? Is Napoli too careless to let go of Osimhen?
I think about this exchange is news that is only made up by the media I just read the latest news on Fabrizio Romano's tweet that the Oshimen exchange is not something that is really valid, maybe this is beneficial for both parties Napoli get Lukaku and Chelsea get Victor Oshimen but what about Oshimen's feelings? loan option? I think this is too ridiculous Victor Oshimen is a star player being a loan player is the same as insulting this player like a wasted player, it would be better if Chelsea made an exchange with Lukaku but cut directly with Oshimen's price clause and bought him so that Oshimen can be more appreciated and Napoli also gets benefits while getting Lukaku.

Source : https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1818271003912683836?t=p9fagI0Md2AQTqihYsSogg&s=19

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Today at 02:27:50 PM
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Let’s be realistic here. I know some clubs won’t mind buying Osimhen. But as you can see, no one is willing to spend €120m or so on him. Chelsea are likely to get him on loan + option to buy. This is even possible because Conte wants Lukaku(a player they have tried all their best to get rid off) if Lukaku wasn’t in the Picture, Napoli won’t even entertain the loan discussion. PSG were interested in the deal to bring him to Paris, but the deal suffered a setback. They were adding players to the Osimhen's deal and Napoli indicated interest in one of the players offered I.e. Lee Kang-in, but it didn’t make sense to spend that heavy on just one player.

I think it’ll be a very good deal for Chelsea if they get Osimhen. What is missing in this Chelsea team is a quality striker. Someone that can give 20 league goals in a season. They have a good creative system, so he’ll adapt easily.
You're right. It will be too much for any team to splash such an amount for a player who hasn't been on his best lately but this is not just any other player and I feel they will benefit more if they just buy him since they can afford it. Is it now they want to be cautious by taking him on loan with an option to buy? It's as if they don't want a situation where they will regret the purchase if he doesn't live up to expectations but I don't think Osimhen will disappoint if he comes to Chelsea cause he'd have good feeders of the ball and we know how good he is at finishing unlike Jackson who wastes chances.

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