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February 27, 2025, 07:53:44 AM
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If I agree with that debate, do some Man United fans also agree with selling Onana? Roll Eyes


What I see at the moment regardless of the debate is that the situation will not be much different where when players leave Manchester United, they seem to get new opportunities and can make their performance a little better than when they were at Manchester United.

De Gea is now doing quite well with Fiorentina after being dumped by Manchester United, Greenwood last season did well after a couple of seasons out and he's doing quite well in La Liga, as well as the current loan signings of Sancho, Antony and Rashford who seem to be getting a second chance at a new club.

By looking at this, I honestly feel that this will also happen for Onana later Smiley Because for now for me it is not the player who is too problematic but the club pattern that seems less able to maximize a player well because for now whoever the player is, no matter how potential they are, when they come to United then destruction awaits their career.

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If I agree with that debate, do some Man United fans also agree with selling Onana? Roll Eyes

Initially last season I still believed Onana could perform more brilliantly like when he was with Inter. But it turned out I was just hoping too much. In fact at Man United, Onana was unable to give a brilliant performance and he seemed to not have good reflexes as a goalkeeper. On the one hand Man United needs a goalkeeper who has quality abilities.

And the question, is it possible that Amorim has an interest in bringing back De Gea?  Tongue

Manchester United have always had quality goalkeepers. I was shocked when they sent De Gea away and bought Onana. Now I understand better why Manchester United are the way they are. They can start the change by getting rid of Onana. It's not all Onana's fault because Manchester United's defense is very bad. But Manchester United have had a hard time because of Onana's mistakes. I don't understand why they still tolerate him. Altay's performance can improve as he plays games and Altay can be given a chance in the remaining games. Although Altay has performed well in the games he has played, Amorim doesn't prefer him. I hope Altay recovers from injury as soon as possible and replaces Onana.
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February 27, 2025, 08:53:26 AM
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Ten Hag was bought to fulfill the football philosophy he wanted to develop, but he failed. I think selling him is not a problem, there are still a lot of good goalkeepers. I read Onana's stats pretty badly. In 2 years he made 12 mistakes. From that mistake, it also resulted in conceding. Compared to De Gea, in 12 years he only made 17 mistakes that resulted in goals. In the match against Ipswich, he also made mistakes. Ipswich's two goals when seen are indeed Onana is not in a good position, besides that Onana's communication with other players does not go well. But with these statistics, I think Man United will lose in terms of price. 

Onana is too unstable, he can play a great match and then make some frankly gross mistakes and this will lead to a loss of points in the match. Honestly, he should have been replaced a long time ago and De Gea, in my opinion, is better and more stable. But Manchester United's problem is not only the goalkeeper, they also have a very weak defense, which makes no fewer mistakes than the goalkeeper, together this gives a weak result for a relatively good attack.

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Theo Hernandez is very likely to leave Milan by the end of the season. It is because of the disagreements between the team and player on a new contract. It seems like he demands too much money. Considering his poor performance recently, Milan doesn't want to make a big salary increase. I think they are right about their attitude. You can't accept such thing just because his name is well-known. Performance is everything.  Smiley

Manchester City is probably looking for a way to sign him cheaper here. But Milan would be in profit anyway as they got him for 22 million euros and now his market value is worth 50 million. I don't think they would drop from that level sharply.

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February 27, 2025, 10:06:06 AM
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If I agree with that debate, do some Man United fans also agree with selling Onana? Roll Eyes

Initially last season I still believed Onana could perform more brilliantly like when he was with Inter. But it turned out I was just hoping too much. In fact at Man United, Onana was unable to give a brilliant performance and he seemed to not have good reflexes as a goalkeeper. On the one hand Man United needs a goalkeeper who has quality abilities.

And the question, is it possible that Amorim has an interest in bringing back De Gea?  Tongue

At this point if Manchester United still keeps Onana, they're dumbest team ever. Eh.. You also forgot to mention fucking Dorgu, which is as bad as Onana as well.

It was Dorgu who was doing silly mistake, but what the fuck was Onana doing by moving up. I wonder who told Onana to come off from his area.

Manchester United must be get rid off all of them.
LoL🤣 this guy never cease to amaze me, because he always gets into the spotlight for the wrong reasons, this kind of mistake is something that is very much avoidable, not that he is not a good player, he is a good goalkeeper, but he keeps on making silly mistakes that most times cost his team points, in my own opinion, I don't think that replacing him is the ideal thing to do considering how heavily they invested in bringing him to old Trafford, I just think that he needs to be cautioned, and the manager needs to outline what is required of him, by telling him that if he can't meet up to the required standard, he would be dropped.
If you are reacting this way what are you going to say about the Chelsea goalkeeper, I mean Sanchez?
He is the most error prone player or goalkeeper I have ever seen since I have been watching football, it was just recently that he was finally dropped when too much  pressure was mount on the manager to drop him from the starting line up, so comparing onana with Sanchez, onana is way better, so he just needs to be caution, after that I am very sure that he will behave himself.

Sanchez is almos the same as Onana, but Chelsea has some sense to fix it.

That's why Chelsea is putting Kelleher in their list, and competing with some clubs to get him. I don't deny Sanchez is as bad as Onana. He deserves to be replaced by a quality goal keeper who can think with their sense about when to move up, and have good build up.

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February 27, 2025, 10:09:19 AM
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At that time, I did not understand why they bought Onana because De Gea was really performing well in my opinion. None of the transfers made under Erik Ten Hag could contribute to the club.

Ten Hag was bought to fulfill the football philosophy he wanted to develop, but he failed. I think selling him is not a problem, there are still a lot of good goalkeepers. I read Onana's stats pretty badly. In 2 years he made 12 mistakes. From that mistake, it also resulted in conceding. Compared to De Gea, in 12 years he only made 17 mistakes that resulted in goals. In the match against Ipswich, he also made mistakes. Ipswich's two goals when seen are indeed Onana is not in a good position, besides that Onana's communication with other players does not go well. But with these statistics, I think Man United will lose in terms of price. 
I don't think Manchester United will be able to recoup the money they spent on him. Because no one wants to pay a lot of money for a goalkeeper who makes so many mistakes. Manchester United will probably have to buy a different quality goalkeeper than the ones they have. For this, they will have to let Onana go and the teams that can afford him are probably in Saudi Arabia or another rich country.

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February 27, 2025, 10:19:47 AM
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The latest news said Napoli is keen in acquiring Hojlund from Manchester United. If Amorim has some sense, he will agree with such offer. The problem is that the loss can't be avoided by Manchester United's side.

It makes sense consider Hojlund has dropped so hard than his form when he still at Atalanta. They have to sell him asap though Napoli is only willing to pay fraction of Hojlund's bought price by Manchester United.

I assume Napoli may be putting 50% from 72m as their threshold to sign Hojlund from Manchester United.


I think this is going to work out well for all the parties involved. Since Manchester United need to do an overhaul of their squad, Napoli could help take some of the players off their hands and give Amorim the finances and space to sign the players he wants. The only problem to this deal is the issue of the price Napoli are willing to pay whjch could hinder a possible deal.

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February 27, 2025, 10:38:54 AM
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At that time, I did not understand why they bought Onana because De Gea was really performing well in my opinion. None of the transfers made under Erik Ten Hag could contribute to the club.

Ten Hag was bought to fulfill the football philosophy he wanted to develop, but he failed. I think selling him is not a problem, there are still a lot of good goalkeepers. I read Onana's stats pretty badly. In 2 years he made 12 mistakes. From that mistake, it also resulted in conceding. Compared to De Gea, in 12 years he only made 17 mistakes that resulted in goals. In the match against Ipswich, he also made mistakes. Ipswich's two goals when seen are indeed Onana is not in a good position, besides that Onana's communication with other players does not go well. But with these statistics, I think Man United will lose in terms of price. 
I don't think Manchester United will be able to recoup the money they spent on him. Because no one wants to pay a lot of money for a goalkeeper who makes so many mistakes. Manchester United will probably have to buy a different quality goalkeeper than the ones they have. For this, they will have to let Onana go and the teams that can afford him are probably in Saudi Arabia or another rich country.
Impossible to happen. If Manchester united sells Onana, Other clubs may be only sending like 50% of United buying price or even more less. I don't think Intermilan is also wanting to recoup Onana back with the price like when Manchester United bought him from there.

The most important thing is that his performance is worsen makes his price decreased a lot. We know how bad Onana in Manchester united, and this affects his price too.

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Ten Hag was bought to fulfill the football philosophy he wanted to develop, but he failed. I think selling him is not a problem, there are still a lot of good goalkeepers. I read Onana's stats pretty badly. In 2 years he made 12 mistakes. From that mistake, it also resulted in conceding. Compared to De Gea, in 12 years he only made 17 mistakes that resulted in goals. In the match against Ipswich, he also made mistakes. Ipswich's two goals when seen are indeed Onana is not in a good position, besides that Onana's communication with other players does not go well. But with these statistics, I think Man United will lose in terms of price. 

Onana is too unstable, he can play a great match and then make some frankly gross mistakes and this will lead to a loss of points in the match. Honestly, he should have been replaced a long time ago and De Gea, in my opinion, is better and more stable. But Manchester United's problem is not only the goalkeeper, they also have a very weak defense, which makes no fewer mistakes than the goalkeeper, together this gives a weak result for a relatively good attack.

Yes, you have made a good observation. The goalkeeper is not the only problem for Manchester United, there are more serious problems for Manchester United. These are that the defense line is bad and they give too many chances in many matches. Manchester United needs to organize their defense. If you do not have a defense line made up of good players, even if you have the best attackers in the world, you will concede a goal in your goal. That is why defense is at least as important as the attack line in football. In my opinion, the weakest area of ​​Manchester United right now is the defense.

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February 27, 2025, 11:15:46 AM
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If I agree with that debate, do some Man United fans also agree with selling Onana? Roll Eyes

Initially last season I still believed Onana could perform more brilliantly like when he was with Inter. But it turned out I was just hoping too much. In fact at Man United, Onana was unable to give a brilliant performance and he seemed to not have good reflexes as a goalkeeper. On the one hand Man United needs a goalkeeper who has quality abilities.

And the question, is it possible that Amorim has an interest in bringing back De Gea?  Tongue

At this point if Manchester United still keeps Onana, they're dumbest team ever. Eh.. You also forgot to mention fucking Dorgu, which is as bad as Onana as well.

It was Dorgu who was doing silly mistake, but what the fuck was Onana doing by moving up. I wonder who told Onana to come off from his area.
the worse thing about Onana is that he is too confident of himself which makes him commit a lot of mistakes games after games and yet he doesn't learn from those mistakes in the next game. What he needs is just one of two things, either they sell him as soon as possible or they get a replacement while allowing him watch from the bench till he is ready to learn and become a better goalie. for Dorgu,it is just clear that he can never work well with Onana because that combination is a huge error Infinito. you see that first goal; a lot of people have blamed Onana for coming out too far but that is never Onana's fault. when you have seen your keeper approaching a ball in that kind of area, what should a good defender do? is it not to simply use his body to cover arrears such that your opponent doesn't get close to the ball while allowing your keeper to get his hand on the ball? there was literally no reason whatsoever why he should give an open pass not just no one at the back of the post. he messed up and went on to get a silly red card in a first half that they were already struggling to get a lead.

Manchester united defense is still as porous as hell and as much as Onana has outstayed his welcome at Manchester united, the defense he is working with are not making things even easy for him and the management needs to also consider getting a solid defense alongside a more serious and commited keeper.

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Yes, you have made a good observation. The goalkeeper is not the only problem for Manchester United, there are more serious problems for Manchester United. These are that the defense line is bad and they give too many chances in many matches. Manchester United needs to organize their defense. If you do not have a defense line made up of good players, even if you have the best attackers in the world, you will concede a goal in your goal. That is why defense is at least as important as the attack line in football. In my opinion, the weakest area of ​​Manchester United right now is the defense.
And even in my opinion they have problems in all lines, goalkeeper, defense, midfield and attack line all have problems so it becomes a complex problem that is difficult to overcome.
However, the coaching staff also has their respective duties, they should be able to maximize it even more. There is certainly a special goalkeeper coach, as well as the attack line. I do not completely blame the coach, because several changes of coaches have the same results, so in my opinion there are other problems that we do not know, because we also do not know the real situation in the club.
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While Napoli would love to get Hojlund, isn't it already past the transfer deadline? That means it has to be during the summer, and during the summer anything could happen. I am so used to seeing these type of moves that I do not even consider anything off the table.

Like I could see Mbappe going to United, in exchange of 5% of the club or something lol, yes we haven't seen that before but I wouldn't rule it out, things are always all out open. I said Hojluhd would leave during the winter transfer period, and United would get so many players, none of that happened really and I am shocked that United didn't want to give Amorim a lot of players during the winter period and wanted to see how he does first before they let him sign during the summer.

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February 27, 2025, 02:33:22 PM
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I said Hojluhd would leave during the winter transfer period, and United would get so many players, none of that happened really and I am shocked that United didn't want to give Amorim a lot of players during the winter period and wanted to see how he does first before they let him sign during the summer.
Why you can be sure after Hojlund left, Manchester United can buy many players? even his market value is still 70 Milion Euros, but his quality is not worth more than 20 Million Euros. Manchester United really lack of strikers in this season, they only have 4 players. Teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid who prefer with versatile players still have 6-7 strikers.

Yes, you have made a good observation. The goalkeeper is not the only problem for Manchester United, there are more serious problems for Manchester United. These are that the defense line is bad and they give too many chances in many matches. Manchester United needs to organize their defense. If you do not have a defense line made up of good players, even if you have the best attackers in the world, you will concede a goal in your goal. That is why defense is at least as important as the attack line in football. In my opinion, the weakest area of ​​Manchester United right now is the defense.
They've sign Mazraoui and De Ligt, two great defenders from Bayern Munich, they also sign Ugarte, a great defensive midfielder from PSG.

As we can see their performance in Manchester United, Ugarte and Mazraoui are like mediocre players, while De Ligt become bad.

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Ten Hag was bought to fulfill the football philosophy he wanted to develop, but he failed. I think selling him is not a problem, there are still a lot of good goalkeepers. I read Onana's stats pretty badly. In 2 years he made 12 mistakes. From that mistake, it also resulted in conceding. Compared to De Gea, in 12 years he only made 17 mistakes that resulted in goals. In the match against Ipswich, he also made mistakes. Ipswich's two goals when seen are indeed Onana is not in a good position, besides that Onana's communication with other players does not go well. But with these statistics, I think Man United will lose in terms of price. 

Onana is too unstable, he can play a great match and then make some frankly gross mistakes and this will lead to a loss of points in the match. Honestly, he should have been replaced a long time ago and De Gea, in my opinion, is better and more stable. But Manchester United's problem is not only the goalkeeper, they also have a very weak defense, which makes no fewer mistakes than the goalkeeper, together this gives a weak result for a relatively good attack.

What do you expect from the goalkeeper when the players are not doing better. All around in the Premier league, if we have to rate goalkeepers, Onana has to be among the top 5 goalkeepers, i don't see any bad performance from his side, he's doing what he has to for the club and changing goalkeeper won't help them go far in the league if they fail to improve.

Manchester United is 14th with -6 goal difference, how then are we supposed to blame the goalkeeper, defense is weak, and the strikers are unable to score multiple goals even if they do, for the recent behaviors they first concede before making an equalizer or luckily winning the game. If they don't want Onana, they can sell him but that will be doing him more good especially if he goes to a better club.

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February 27, 2025, 03:31:10 PM
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If I agree with that debate, do some Man United fans also agree with selling Onana? Roll Eyes

Initially last season I still believed Onana could perform more brilliantly like when he was with Inter. But it turned out I was just hoping too much. In fact at Man United, Onana was unable to give a brilliant performance and he seemed to not have good reflexes as a goalkeeper. On the one hand Man United needs a goalkeeper who has quality abilities.

And the question, is it possible that Amorim has an interest in bringing back De Gea?  Tongue

At this point if Manchester United still keeps Onana, they're dumbest team ever. Eh.. You also forgot to mention fucking Dorgu, which is as bad as Onana as well.

It was Dorgu who was doing silly mistake, but what the fuck was Onana doing by moving up. I wonder who told Onana to come off from his area.

Manchester United must be get rid off all of them.
It seems that the summer transfer window will be a time of complete renewal for Manchester United. All players, from the goalkeeper area to the attackers, may need to change. If Manchester United wants to be successful, they need to get rid of such players who make mistakes and bring in players who are flawless or who make fewer mistakes.
Too much of everything is bad. Onana mistakes is getting too much and that doesn't show his professionalism in his career. I don't know why most coach do prefer Onana as their first choice. I believe that there's something special they see in him. However, if United can sell him off, it will be good for the club's improvement.

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February 27, 2025, 03:35:37 PM
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The latest news said Napoli is keen in acquiring Hojlund from Manchester United. If Amorim has some sense, he will agree with such offer. The problem is that the loss can't be avoided by Manchester United's side.

It makes sense consider Hojlund has dropped so hard than his form when he still at Atalanta. They have to sell him asap though Napoli is only willing to pay fraction of Hojlund's bought price by Manchester United.

I assume Napoli may be putting 50% from 72m as their threshold to sign Hojlund from Manchester United.
I think Man Utd would gladly accept the deal as it frees space in the team and also make room for Osimhen who has been on their radar for sometime. But again, I don't believe the credibility of the news and I think the only way Man Utd could tempt Osimhen to Old Trafford is if they can secure champions league football next season, which doesn't look like they can.

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Man United's condition that did not improve made Amorim throw away many players. In addition to throwing them away, they also brought in several new players. Rumor has it that Amorim intends Geovany Quenda.  He is from Sporting Lisbon. Sporting gave Quenda a price of £35 million. Geovany Quenda is a winger, his stats are not bad. He played 23 games he has made 1 goal and 3 assists.

Source: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/manchester-united-geovany-quenda-transfer-34733253
For a winger who has recorded 23  appearances with just a goal and three assists are you sure this is the player Manchester United which is currently struggling needs? With the current situation I think united should be looking at very good players who can immediately make good impact as they join and for a fee not too expensive to give room to sign more. They need wingers who can guarantee atleast between 10 to 15 goals in 23 appearances.

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February 27, 2025, 05:40:13 PM
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Theo Hernandez is very likely to leave Milan by the end of the season. It is because of the disagreements between the team and player on a new contract. It seems like he demands too much money. Considering his poor performance recently, Milan doesn't want to make a big salary increase. I think they are right about their attitude. You can't accept such thing just because his name is well-known. Performance is everything.  Smiley

Manchester City is probably looking for a way to sign him cheaper here. But Milan would be in profit anyway as they got him for 22 million euros and now his market value is worth 50 million. I don't think they would drop from that level sharply.

I absolutely agree with this transfer. Theo is so clinical as LB, and he can also be pivoted to the another position such as CB. Having him the squad will add City's depth on their defensive line. I think Theo's price doesn't matter a lot for City.

50 million looks so fucking easy for this saudi club, and building the next gen of winning team is a must. The faster City sign him, the better for the club.

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February 27, 2025, 06:23:12 PM
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Man United's condition that did not improve made Amorim throw away many players. In addition to throwing them away, they also brought in several new players. Rumor has it that Amorim intends Geovany Quenda.  He is from Sporting Lisbon. Sporting gave Quenda a price of £35 million. Geovany Quenda is a winger, his stats are not bad. He played 23 games he has made 1 goal and 3 assists.

Source: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/manchester-united-geovany-quenda-transfer-34733253
For a winger who has recorded 23  appearances with just a goal and three assists are you sure this is the player Manchester United which is currently struggling needs? With the current situation I think united should be looking at very good players who can immediately make good impact as they join and for a fee not too expensive to give room to sign more. They need wingers who can guarantee atleast between 10 to 15 goals in 23 appearances.
Yes, I think Man Utd need a mature player as soon as possible to get out of the pressure, not a young player like Geovany Quenda who is still developing his ability, Man Utd is not a team that can really manage young players, only a few succeed and others fail. And considering the English league is very competitive, Quenda is not strong enough to lift the performance of The Red Devils in the near future.
For the option of adding depth to the squad it might be good, but to be a regular player I am quite doubtful.

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February 27, 2025, 06:46:04 PM
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For a winger who has recorded 23  appearances with just a goal and three assists are you sure this is the player Manchester United which is currently struggling needs? With the current situation I think united should be looking at very good players who can immediately make good impact as they join and for a fee not too expensive to give room to sign more. They need wingers who can guarantee atleast between 10 to 15 goals in 23 appearances.

Wonderkid transfers like Geovany Quenda are made with the future in mind. It's not reasonable to expect him to average 1 goal/assist per game already. Such players come along once in a decade and big clubs pay astronomical prices for them. Quenda will be a good player maybe after 2-3 seasons of regular playing in quality leagues and developing. They are not signing him as a savior. If they were looking for a player with high attacking qualities who could save United today, they would have to spend a minimum of 100 million Euro. Success doesn't come only by signing such players, you need to build a team and play players who are compatible with each other with the right tactics. For United, almost none of this applies. That's why it's very difficult for them to succeed.


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