Why do conservative worldwide oppose "drugs" legalization?

[Podgor]

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.

And let more people die because of alcohol.
Genius.

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[vantyzz]

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.

And let more people die because of alcohol.
Genius.

Because of alcohol, not many die because of drugs. Alcohol is less dangerous than drugs, although it should also be attributed to banned substances.

[bryant.coleman]

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.

And let more people die because of alcohol.
Genius.

Because of alcohol, not many die because of drugs. Alcohol is less dangerous than drugs, although it should also be attributed to banned substances.

Who told you that alcohol is less dangerous, when compared to drugs? Compare the number of people who die off liver cirrhosis to the number who die from drug overdose. The number of deaths from the first cause is hundreds of times greater than those from the second. And if we legalize the drugs, and make them available through regulated shops, then the number of deaths from overdose will decline further.

[Barrymore]

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.

And let more people die because of alcohol.
Genius.

Because of alcohol, not many die because of drugs. Alcohol is less dangerous than drugs, although it should also be attributed to banned substances.

Who told you that alcohol is less dangerous, when compared to drugs? Compare the number of people who die off liver cirrhosis to the number who die from drug overdose. The number of deaths from the first cause is hundreds of times greater than those from the second. And if we legalize the drugs, and make them available through regulated shops, then the number of deaths from overdose will decline further.

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

[Masha Sha]

Abusive Coffee usage has health risks too... one quick read:

However, coffee consumption is associated with increases in several cardiovascular disease risk factors, including blood pressure and plasma homocysteine. At present, there is little evidence that coffee consumption increases the risk of cancer. For adults consuming moderate amounts of coffee (3-4 cups/d providing 300-400 mg/d of caffeine), there is little evidence of health risks and some evidence of health benefits. However, some groups, including people with hypertension, children, adolescents, and the elderly, may be more vulnerable to the adverse effects of caffeine. In addition, currently available evidence suggests that it may be prudent for pregnant women to limit coffee consumption to 3 cups/d providing no more than 300 mg/d of caffeine to exclude any increased probability of spontaneous abortion or impaired fetal growth.

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.

And let more people die because of alcohol.
Genius.

Because of alcohol, not many die because of drugs. Alcohol is less dangerous than drugs, although it should also be attributed to banned substances.

Who told you that alcohol is less dangerous, when compared to drugs? Compare the number of people who die off liver cirrhosis to the number who die from drug overdose. The number of deaths from the first cause is hundreds of times greater than those from the second. And if we legalize the drugs, and make them available through regulated shops, then the number of deaths from overdose will decline further.

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

You were of course referencing to the alcohol drug disinhibition effect in your reply?

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.

And let more people die because of alcohol.
Genius.

Because of alcohol, not many die because of drugs. Alcohol is less dangerous than drugs, although it should also be attributed to banned substances.

Alcohol, or tobacco or coffee are drugs. However read about the prohibition era of alcohol... did you think ot worked? Unintended consequences?  even elephants seek fruits with alcohol.

Drugs have no place in today's society , it will surely surely end with nothing good for the entire world

Drugs have their own uses. Even the banned drugs are useful in various forms as painkillers, relaxants, and anti-depression medications. I agree that there seems to be a lot of drug-induced violence going on in this world. But you must understand that banning the drugs and prosecuting the drug users haven't done the trick for the last many decades.

This is my point. There are enough crimes and problems to handle without having the need to criminalize more fullconsent victimless activities. And what are the results of criminalizations and the drug war: War and discrimination of law abidding citizens. Some seems to love the battlefieldization of civilian area... enjoy. What is your problem with a free human being wanting to get (buzzed and booze, high what ever from drugs, boosted from coffee or get addicted to nicotin?). As long as this person has access to factual information about the substances... why should it matter to the law?

Furthermore ultimately only love isn't boring...

[Sithara007]

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.

[signature200]

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.

After the use of mushrooms the person can have hallucinations and they can lead to unpredictable consequences both for the person and for others. I'm against drugs.

[TheCoinGrabber]

As a conservative, I fully support the legalization of drugs (or at least the soft drugs such as weed). The war on drugs and the ban has only helped the drug mafias and big bankers. If the drugs are made available through government-owned shops, then the drug violence will cease, and the number of deaths from drug overdose will be a thing of the past.

Yes, what we're seeing the world over is some Prohibition Era shit... Just remind them they'll earn money from legalizing drugs, they love taxes.

They are very shrewd. The tax money will go to the treasury, and only a small amount of it can be stolen by the corrupt politicians. On the other hand, if the prohibition remains in place, then the politicians will be able to earn a lot of bribes and commissions, not just from the drug mafias, but also from the big bankers and the pharma cartels.

Hmm... that's possible. Although we've seen marijuana legalized in some states already, maybe others would follow eventually? I don't know if weed will cause brain damage in the long run but it seems that it don't cause people to commit crime on the scale that meth does. If it can be used as a "soft" drug to prevent people from using the "hard" ones, than I'm in favor of its legalization.

[coolcoinz]

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.

After the use of mushrooms the person can have hallucinations and they can lead to unpredictable consequences both for the person and for others. I'm against drugs.

Are you against alcohol too? Using it can cause hallucinations and can be dangerous to the drinker and people around him. Mushrooms and weed don't make people aggressive, but alcohol does.
Another question: why should we limit the ability of other people to use any substance they want? If they want to hallucinate why would you try to stop them? It's not your body and not your life.

[Sithara007]

Hmm... that's possible. Although we've seen marijuana legalized in some states already, maybe others would follow eventually? I don't know if weed will cause brain damage in the long run but it seems that it don't cause people to commit crime on the scale that meth does. If it can be used as a "soft" drug to prevent people from using the "hard" ones, than I'm in favor of its legalization.

There is no scientific proof for the argument that the usage of marijuana results in brain damage. Humans have been using marijuana for many thousands of years, and according to the experts the positive benefits of marijuana outweigh the negatives by a wide margin.

[Masha Sha]

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.

After the use of mushrooms the person can have hallucinations and they can lead to unpredictable consequences both for the person and for others. I'm against drugs.

Are you against alcohol too? Using it can cause hallucinations and can be dangerous to the drinker and people around him. Mushrooms and weed don't make people aggressive, but alcohol does.
Another question: why should we limit the ability of other people to use any substance they want? If they want to hallucinate why would you try to stop them? It's not your body and not your life.

This is it! Excessive coffee makes people aggressive too! And specifically why it's mainly a conservative consensus? Why this will to restrict other people freedom (or choices) which doesn't affect them (abortion, whateversex, drugs)?

[mainpmf]

Answer is simple: peope are too dumb to see it as something good and politics would win nothing from legalizing it.

Of course EVERY STUDY EVER MADE on legalization shows that it's a good thing. Tests, countries that adopted it, social studies... Everything shows that legalization = less consumption and of better quality and less addiction = less deaths and dangers = better society.

But hey, you not gonna do rational politics are you? Otherwise world would be so boring.

Like for example we wouldn't have any banks or traders, how boring, who would cause economic desasters then?

[Aikonio]

I am against the legalization of drugs. This will start to destroy society even worse than war. And so people die from smoking, alcohol and various diseases.

[Xester]

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

Let us not question those who are against the legalization of drugs in the world rather let us ask why they are so eager to push those laws which we deemed not really needed by the public. Instead of focusing on those issues why do they are making such laws instead on the problem of poverty, health and other major issues. Is the reason why they are moving to legalize illegal drugs is because the drug lords are paying the law-makers and that they will have a percentage on the sales? Such laws are questionable and there must be a hidden agenda behind this kind of proposals.

[pseexh]

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

Let us not question those who are against the legalization of drugs in the world rather let us ask why they are so eager to push those laws which we deemed not really needed by the public. Instead of focusing on those issues why do they are making such laws instead on the problem of poverty, health and other major issues. Is the reason why they are moving to legalize illegal drugs is because the drug lords are paying the law-makers and that they will have a percentage on the sales? Such laws are questionable and there must be a hidden agenda behind this kind of proposals.

They take only those laws that are beneficial to them, they do not care about people. They simply do not benefit from making laws on improving the environment or housing conditions, the development of medicine.

[crwth]

Hmm... that's possible. Although we've seen marijuana legalized in some states already, maybe others would follow eventually? I don't know if weed will cause brain damage in the long run but it seems that it don't cause people to commit crime on the scale that meth does. If it can be used as a "soft" drug to prevent people from using the "hard" ones, than I'm in favor of its legalization.

There is no scientific proof for the argument that the usage of marijuana results in brain damage. Humans have been using marijuana for many thousands of years, and according to the experts the positive benefits of marijuana outweigh the negatives by a wide margin.

I don't know if there are evidence that concerns with that, but we are all aware that too much of something would probably go to kill you in the long run. It helps a lot of people especially with people with Parkinson's disease and other motor actions of our bodies.

[SimmonenY]

Have you ever felt a gun pointed at your head by a trembling hand of some junkie? I'm not conservative I just felt the consequencies of drug addiction on myself. Of course people do terrible things without any drugs. But I believe that if any chemical substance has a negative psychopharmaceutical effect powerful enough to alternate one's personality to the point of posing a hazard to other people's and one's own life and wellbeing, it should be regulated by the law and healthcare standards. It is a personal choice to take drugs but a drug addict doesn't feel responsibility for his/her actions and it's not about education or personal morals - those terms don't exist when you need another fix.

[Malsetid]

Have you ever felt a gun pointed at your head by a trembling hand of some junkie? I'm not conservative I just felt the consequencies of drug addiction on myself. Of course people do terrible things without any drugs. But I believe that if any chemical substance has a negative psychopharmaceutical effect powerful enough to alternate one's personality to the point of posing a hazard to other people's and one's own life and wellbeing, it should be regulated by the law and healthcare standards. It is a personal choice to take drugs but a drug addict doesn't feel responsibility for his/her actions and it's not about education or personal morals - those terms don't exist when you need another fix.

Indeed. A lot of heinous crimes committed are drug related. You wouldn't know the difference between an animal and a person and sometimes there are hallucinations that makes people do harmful things towards others. Of course there are natural drugs that can be used for medicinal purposes but chemical drugs like meth and coke can very well ruin any society once legalized

[TheCoinGrabber]

Hmm... that's possible. Although we've seen marijuana legalized in some states already, maybe others would follow eventually? I don't know if weed will cause brain damage in the long run but it seems that it don't cause people to commit crime on the scale that meth does. If it can be used as a "soft" drug to prevent people from using the "hard" ones, than I'm in favor of its legalization.

There is no scientific proof for the argument that the usage of marijuana results in brain damage. Humans have been using marijuana for many thousands of years, and according to the experts the positive benefits of marijuana outweigh the negatives by a wide margin.

Well if that's the case, then legalize it. It probably wouldn't be as bad as the opium that caused China problem, right? (Ironically the Chinese are heavily-invested in drugs in Asia.) Are there already any research if people using marijuana develop tolerance, like what happens when using most drugs?

[SimmonenY]

Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.

After the use of mushrooms the person can have hallucinations and they can lead to unpredictable consequences both for the person and for others. I'm against drugs.

Are you against alcohol too? Using it can cause hallucinations and can be dangerous to the drinker and people around him. Mushrooms and weed don't make people aggressive, but alcohol does.
Another question: why should we limit the ability of other people to use any substance they want? If they want to hallucinate why would you try to stop them? It's not your body and not your life.

This is it! Excessive coffee makes people aggressive too! And specifically why it's mainly a conservative consensus? Why this will to restrict other people freedom (or choices) which doesn't affect them (abortion, whateversex, drugs)?

I'm all for personal freedom and freedom of choice as long as it doesn't pose a threat to me personally. A someone's abortion is not dangerous to anyone but the person herself or whateversex in this matter. But a hallucinating (by choice) person can be dangerous to those who surround him/her.