Why do conservative worldwide oppose "drugs" legalization?

[Sithara007]

I agree with at least decriminalizing prostitution. If it would be legalized and regulated like any profession, I suppose that would reduce the danger for both worker and client.

What system would you prefer? I'm thinking more of a brothel setup but it would be like a regular office with CCTVs everywhere and guards. Clients would have to be escorted to the door by the worker after things are done so workers can complain if anything wrong was done to them. For added precaution there would be an emergency button in every room so the worker can call on the guards if things go badly.

Since the workers would be regularly tested and would probably be on PrEP, they should also be asking customers for their records before allowing them to avail service.

If you make anything illegal, then the criminals and the organized cartels will benefit. If prostitution is legalized, then the trafficking of minor children will cease, and the spread of sexually transmitted diseases such as HIV and syphilis can be prevented.

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[kreskko]

I am a categorical opponent of the idea of legalization of drugs. As for prostitution it is a relic of the past. I have nothing bad in it do not see. Perhaps States who are against this go on about religious leaders.

And the transmission of all sorts of different diseases? This is not only immoral, but also a huge risk of getting a fatal disease. I think you would not want your children to work as prostitutes.

[darkangel11]

I am a categorical opponent of the idea of legalization of drugs. As for prostitution it is a relic of the past. I have nothing bad in it do not see. Perhaps States who are against this go on about religious leaders.

And the transmission of all sorts of different diseases? This is not only immoral, but also a huge risk of getting a fatal disease. I think you would not want your children to work as prostitutes.

It's their choice and it's not for you or anyone else to decide for them. If that's what they like doing and they can take the risk...
I wouldn't want my children to work like that, but I would do anything to help them so that they will never have to. I also wouldn't like the government to interfere, it's not their family but mine and it's not their responsibility but mine.

[farl2web]

I am a categorical opponent of the idea of legalization of drugs. As for prostitution it is a relic of the past. I have nothing bad in it do not see. Perhaps States who are against this go on about religious leaders.

And the transmission of all sorts of different diseases? This is not only immoral, but also a huge risk of getting a fatal disease. I think you would not want your children to work as prostitutes.

It's their choice and it's not for you or anyone else to decide for them. If that's what they like doing and they can take the risk...
I wouldn't want my children to work like that, but I would do anything to help them so that they will never have to. I also wouldn't like the government to interfere, it's not their family but mine and it's not their responsibility but mine.

I believe that drugs are a very big evil, because it not only destroys a person, but the person himself is capable of great evil for the sake of these very drugs. Legalization of these substances gives rise to even more problems.

[Sithara007]

I believe that drugs are a very big evil, because it not only destroys a person, but the person himself is capable of great evil for the sake of these very drugs. Legalization of these substances gives rise to even more problems.

Legalization is the best option. Because if the drugs are legal, then it makes easier for the law enforcement agencies to monitor the drug users. On the other hand, if the drug business is driven underground, then it becomes impossible to do that.

[chixka000]

You have to remember that there are two types of drugs the legal one and the illegal one.  Drugs that are illegal were illegal for a reason. Yes it is your body and you have the full rights or the freedom to what do you want to do with it but you have to remember that if you used illegal drugs you can affect the lives of other people which is not a part of your freedom

[Eternu]

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

It is not problem of free will, you can do what you like. The problem is what comes with the drugs. There are effect of drugs that can be lethal in some situations. Imagine what would happen if you legalize drugs, and children start doing drugs from young age, they would turn it to a burden for society, and in moment when there would be no one to take care of them, slowly we would start dying as a human race.

[Sithara007]

You have to remember that there are two types of drugs the legal one and the illegal one.  Drugs that are illegal were illegal for a reason. Yes it is your body and you have the full rights or the freedom to what do you want to do with it but you have to remember that if you used illegal drugs you can affect the lives of other people which is not a part of your freedom

In my opinion, none of the drugs must be classified as illegal. It is up to the individual to decide whether he should take a particular drug or not (as long as he is above the legal age, i.e. 18 years).

[TheCoinGrabber]

I agree with at least decriminalizing prostitution. If it would be legalized and regulated like any profession, I suppose that would reduce the danger for both worker and client.

What system would you prefer? I'm thinking more of a brothel setup but it would be like a regular office with CCTVs everywhere and guards. Clients would have to be escorted to the door by the worker after things are done so workers can complain if anything wrong was done to them. For added precaution there would be an emergency button in every room so the worker can call on the guards if things go badly.

Since the workers would be regularly tested and would probably be on PrEP, they should also be asking customers for their records before allowing them to avail service.

If you make anything illegal, then the criminals and the organized cartels will benefit. If prostitution is legalized, then the trafficking of minor children will cease, and the spread of sexually transmitted diseases such as HIV and syphilis can be prevented.

This is what I keep telling people I know and they just shudder and look at me as if I'm possessed.

I am a categorical opponent of the idea of legalization of drugs. As for prostitution it is a relic of the past. I have nothing bad in it do not see. Perhaps States who are against this go on about religious leaders.

And the transmission of all sorts of different diseases? This is not only immoral, but also a huge risk of getting a fatal disease. I think you would not want your children to work as prostitutes.

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

[Sithara007]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

[TheCoinGrabber]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

[Eternu]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

[BADecker]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

Legalization of anything isn't what you think. What does legalization do? If Government legalizes one of the moons of Pluto, what does it do? It doesn't do anything. Not to the moon, and not to people.

If Government legalizes the comb in your pocket, the comb could care less. Legalization really controls and limits people. Depending on what Government says in their legalization of your comb, it regulates you and how you use the comb. It takes away your freedom.

When Government legalizes (or illegalizes) drugs, it takes away your freedom to use drugs. The drugs, themselves, could care less about legalization. Legalization doesn't hurt the drugs at all. It only serves to take freedom away from the people.

Get Government out of everything. Don't make anything legal or illegal. Neither legal or illegal stops people from doing what they want. It only gives Government people the duty of messing with people's freedom. And that is what Government really wants, so that they have an excuse to tax people and make money.

[Eternu]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

Legalization of anything isn't what you think. What does legalization do? If Government legalizes one of the moons of Pluto, what does it do? It doesn't do anything. Not to the moon, and not to people.

If Government legalizes the comb in your pocket, the comb could care less. Legalization really controls and limits people. Depending on what Government says in their legalization of your comb, it regulates you and how you use the comb. It takes away your freedom.

When Government legalizes (or illegalizes) drugs, it takes away your freedom to use drugs. The drugs, themselves, could care less about legalization. Legalization doesn't hurt the drugs at all. It only serves to take freedom away from the people.

Get Government out of everything. Don't make anything legal or illegal. Neither legal or illegal stops people from doing what they want. It only gives Government people the duty of messing with people's freedom. And that is what Government really wants, so that they have an excuse to tax people and make money.

So if i understood right, what you just said right now, you want Anarchy to rule over the world. To be every person for him self or something like that. Governments are necessary evil in our life's. And if you take law and society boundary away, people would be end to them self. People need someone to watch over them. In core humans are animals, and if there is nothing to stop people from committing a crime, imagine what would happen... your anarchy.

[BADecker]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

Legalization of anything isn't what you think. What does legalization do? If Government legalizes one of the moons of Pluto, what does it do? It doesn't do anything. Not to the moon, and not to people.

If Government legalizes the comb in your pocket, the comb could care less. Legalization really controls and limits people. Depending on what Government says in their legalization of your comb, it regulates you and how you use the comb. It takes away your freedom.

When Government legalizes (or illegalizes) drugs, it takes away your freedom to use drugs. The drugs, themselves, could care less about legalization. Legalization doesn't hurt the drugs at all. It only serves to take freedom away from the people.

Get Government out of everything. Don't make anything legal or illegal. Neither legal or illegal stops people from doing what they want. It only gives Government people the duty of messing with people's freedom. And that is what Government really wants, so that they have an excuse to tax people and make money.

So if i understood right, what you just said right now, you want Anarchy to rule over the world. To be every person for him self or something like that. Governments are necessary evil in our life's. And if you take law and society boundary away, people would be end to them self. People need someone to watch over them. In core humans are animals, and if there is nothing to stop people from committing a crime, imagine what would happen... your anarchy.

Of course government is necessary in you life. Your brain governs how your body acts. You govern your children until they grow up. There isn't any anarchy. There is only government in the world.

Of course people need somebody to watch over them. And who would that be? Government is just people. Who watches over them? Government is the most anarchist group of people in the world.

Humans are not animals. The animals closest to humans in IQ and reasoning ability - chimps and dolphins - are so far beneath humans that humans can barely teach them to reason at all, even only a little.

There is nothing stopping people from committing crimes when governments are around. That's why there are crimes listed in the news. And that is why government people are often listed in the news as the criminals.

Medical drugs are way more dangerous than any the people would have found if there were no drug laws. As it is, you can get most medical drugs in Mexico that are forbidden in the US. So, you can take as much or as little as you want. Why don't people generally go get Mexican drugs? Because they are not drug oriented in the first place, except for a few.

The drug laws are designed to make money for Government and the medical in a backwards, underhanded way.

[Perle]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

Legalization of anything isn't what you think. What does legalization do? If Government legalizes one of the moons of Pluto, what does it do? It doesn't do anything. Not to the moon, and not to people.

If Government legalizes the comb in your pocket, the comb could care less. Legalization really controls and limits people. Depending on what Government says in their legalization of your comb, it regulates you and how you use the comb. It takes away your freedom.

When Government legalizes (or illegalizes) drugs, it takes away your freedom to use drugs. The drugs, themselves, could care less about legalization. Legalization doesn't hurt the drugs at all. It only serves to take freedom away from the people.

Get Government out of everything. Don't make anything legal or illegal. Neither legal or illegal stops people from doing what they want. It only gives Government people the duty of messing with people's freedom. And that is what Government really wants, so that they have an excuse to tax people and make money.

So if i understood right, what you just said right now, you want Anarchy to rule over the world. To be every person for him self or something like that. Governments are necessary evil in our life's. And if you take law and society boundary away, people would be end to them self. People need someone to watch over them. In core humans are animals, and if there is nothing to stop people from committing a crime, imagine what would happen... your anarchy.

Of course government is necessary in you life. Your brain governs how your body acts. You govern your children until they grow up. There isn't any anarchy. There is only government in the world.

Of course people need somebody to watch over them. And who would that be? Government is just people. Who watches over them? Government is the most anarchist group of people in the world.

Humans are not animals. The animals closest to humans in IQ and reasoning ability - chimps and dolphins - are so far beneath humans that humans can barely teach them to reason at all, even only a little.

There is nothing stopping people from committing crimes when governments are around. That's why there are crimes listed in the news. And that is why government people are often listed in the news as the criminals.

Medical drugs are way more dangerous than any the people would have found if there were no drug laws. As it is, you can get most medical drugs in Mexico that are forbidden in the US. So, you can take as much or as little as you want. Why don't people generally go get Mexican drugs? Because they are not drug oriented in the first place, except for a few.

The drug laws are designed to make money for Government and the medical in a backwards, underhanded way.

Smart people will not allow to earn the state on their health. Even if they legalize drugs, an intelligent person should not buy them, he must take care of his well-being and health.

[TheCoinGrabber]

This is why exactly you want to legalize it. Prostitutes tend to accumulate stds which they pass to their clients, which then pass those to other prostitutes. Upon legalization, they would be asked to take tests and those that failed would not be allowed to work so you basically start with a pool of healthy prostitutes.

On client side, they can also have the clients first present papers before availing service. Even if this is not strictly implemented, the diseased clients would be eventually weeded out. If any of the prostitutes caught something from a client, they can eventually narrow down to the possible culprit because of records and have those clients banned.

The biggest benefit will be the prevention of the human trafficking of minor girls. If the prostitutes are available legally, then the poor and rural girls will no longer be forced in to the flesh trade.

Oh yes, that's one more reason! Women fetch a high price for traffickers exactly because prostitution is illegal. Worse, the women are treated no better than slaves and gain nothing from their work. Legalization would end that.

Of course, this wouldn't stop pedophiles from going after girls but that's a different problem in itself. And just in case anyone would accuse me of wanting to legalize everything, no, pedophilia should be illegal. Children are too young to be asked to consent to sensitive issues like sex.

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

I wouldn't really say it would help people, but hopefully it would get rid of problems associated with drugs being illegal like gang violence and corruption.

You put drugs out in the open, businesses come in to provide the products, increasing quality (adulterants in some drugs causes more health problems).

The product is taxed, which can then be used for rehabilitation and prevention (like what is being done with tobacco).

Since the gov't get the money, it would be out of cartel's hands, meaning they'd be losing fund they use for intimidating people, at least until they find a new income stream (cannabis farmers in Mexico are starting to switch to opium poppies).

[Forester618]

I am sure that the state is not interested in the legalization of drugs. Addiction is the addiction of the young. It kills first those people whom the government is interested. Who will work and bring income to the Treasury? I think legalization of drugs is only interested in some officials who want to make money. Legalization will bring harm to all.

[coolcoinz]

So guys, on everything you said, do you really think that legalization of drugs would help that people. Would it be better if every one had easy access to drugs and could do what ever they want with it? I know i would not want that. That would make some people life easier, and that people are bad for society. And i do not want to start on children, and how it would effect them...

Yes, I do. Don't you?
You should protect your children if you're so worried that they might start taking drugs, the police or the judge won't do it for you.
If you can't make your kids understand how drugs work and teach them responsibility, nobody can. The police and the judge will only make hardened criminals out of them, because the system is build this way.

[eduaro66]

I am sure that the state is not interested in the legalization of drugs. Addiction is the addiction of the young. It kills first those people whom the government is interested. Who will work and bring income to the Treasury? I think legalization of drugs is only interested in some officials who want to make money. Legalization will bring harm to all.

So all officials are engaged in something poisonous in order to earn money in treasury. Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, prostitution ... all these are governed by rulers.