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May 11, 2017, 09:53:51 AM
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If we look at the fees of other transaction systems then we can say that yes the fees of transaction of bitcoin is a fair fees especially better from the bank transactions. The more better feature is that its transaction is faster and without any third party so why we not pay fees for that facility.
Bitcoin transaction fees is really too much fair than other you can check the paypal fees its very much high and bank fees is also very high and its the reason that people mostly using bitcoin and recommend bitcoin to everyone.
yeah paypal fees is really too much high i use paypal one time and paypal transaction fees is very high then i start to send money or buy something with bitcoin and bitcoin transaction is very much fair than other.
Indeed, fees in bitcoin transaction is much fair than other like paypal and bank. Paypal fees is much higher compare to bitcoin fees. And its just normal that fees in every bitcoin transaction is high becauase as we experience bitcoin's price is stil growing.
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May 11, 2017, 12:36:08 PM
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If we look at the fees of other transaction systems then we can say that yes the fees of transaction of bitcoin is a fair fees especially better from the bank transactions. The more better feature is that its transaction is faster and without any third party so why we not pay fees for that facility.
Bitcoin transaction fees is really too much fair than other you can check the paypal fees its very much high and bank fees is also very high and its the reason that people mostly using bitcoin and recommend bitcoin to everyone.
The purpose of bitcoin to be the micropayment gateway, This time the fees is not fair in my opinion. Everyone must pay over 50k satoshi for every transaction which has made the bitcoin can't be defined as micropayment method.

More people will try to use bitcoin and the fees will increase anytime as soon as possible.

The fees of bitcoin depend on the traffic of the bitcoin network.

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May 11, 2017, 03:11:02 PM
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The fees are very high and i don't think that it is fair because compare to the past transaction fees back then, it was just around 20k satoshi for the maximum and now it is ranging up to 100k satoshi or even more which is very high and not fair for the average bitcoin holders that don't have much bitcoin in their wallet.

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May 11, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
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Not fair and I also there are transaction fee that is 0.33 dollars that is so much for a small amount of bitcoin your going to send online and that is not unfair for an a 3-6hours of waiting for your transaction to confirmed.

Hmm, indeed it is not fair if you only make deals with almost the same amount with fee transactions. This is indeed something harmful things, but if you have many places to get a lot of bitcoin or investing in the bitcoin then I'm sure and believe then you won't be saying similar things. Because if you just invest in the bitcoin, potential benefits that you can get is more than 100% and it has been proved by those who have the patience and the belief that good enough
 
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May 11, 2017, 05:39:39 PM
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If we look at the fees of other transaction systems then we can say that yes the fees of transaction of bitcoin is a fair fees especially better from the bank transactions. The more better feature is that its transaction is faster and without any third party so why we not pay fees for that facility.
Bitcoin transaction fees is really too much fair than other you can check the paypal fees its very much high and bank fees is also very high and its the reason that people mostly using bitcoin and recommend bitcoin to everyone.
The purpose of bitcoin to be the micropayment gateway, This time the fees is not fair in my opinion. Everyone must pay over 50k satoshi for every transaction which has made the bitcoin can't be defined as micropayment method.

More people will try to use bitcoin and the fees will increase anytime as soon as possible.

The fees of bitcoin depend on the traffic of the bitcoin network.

As simple as that. These days there is some saturation, more transactions requests from which they can be processed. This causes the fees to be higher to gain priority, if the number of transactions were lower the fees would be lower as a consequence. You can also choose to pay a little less fees if you have no problem waiting longer to complete the transaction. It´s true that the biggest problem is for micropayments, one dollar payments or the like. In the future solutions like Lightning Network will surely impose to solve this.
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May 11, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
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Everyone wanted higher bitcoin price and we achieved this but another problem become transaction fees. When bitcoin's price was low, we had to pay also low fee and now when it rised, we have to pay high fee in bitcoins and plus that high fee is more higher with current price. Is this fair? The higher the price, the more money miners have with bitcoin exchange.
To my mind when price becomes high, we have to pay low fee and when it becomes low, than fee has to be high. To my mind it had to be done like this from the begining.
I think you are misunderstanding, since theres is supply and demand, and the demand for the service has gone up, but the supply is the same then it is natural for the price of the fees to go up and when we take into account the rising in the price of bitcoin then the fees go even higher, this is fair even if we don’ like it.

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May 11, 2017, 09:02:52 PM
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Can't this be a big problem? If fees are this high we just can't use it at everyday currency? We just couldn't buy 2$ thing if the fee is 0,5$. Does this means that Bitcoin should be coin to ''reffer'' on and for everyday use there should be other altcoins?
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Can't this be a big problem? If fees are this high we just can't use it at everyday currency? We just couldn't buy 2$ thing if the fee is 0,5$. Does this means that Bitcoin should be coin to ''reffer'' on and for everyday use there should be other altcoins?
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May 11, 2017, 10:54:25 PM
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Not fair but I think it is reasonable. If you want a faster transaction, you shell out additional fees and lower fees for not so fast confirmations. I think it is not automatically setup but you have to select it manually in your wallet.I hope network improves so that it is convenient t0 send and receive transaction just like before.
the fee is already cheaper than any money transfer service, people who say it's unfair, better get off sending the money by themselves because they always consider the fee even a cent as unfair

yes sir! i spent a lot of money on money transfer fees, and the fee they charge on bitcoin is very reasonable compared to money transfer services, bitcoin transaction is faster and cheaper! Smiley
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May 11, 2017, 10:59:01 PM
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If we look at the fees of other transaction systems then we can say that yes the fees of transaction of bitcoin is a fair fees especially better from the bank transactions. The more better feature is that its transaction is faster and without any third party so why we not pay fees for that facility.
Bitcoin transaction fees is really too much fair than other you can check the paypal fees its very much high and bank fees is also very high and its the reason that people mostly using bitcoin and recommend bitcoin to everyone.

This and also I believe that you can reduce your fees to as much as you wish tho it might take a little while for transaction to get confirmed or not get confirmed at all. But still the transactions are still low compared to other money transferring options.

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May 11, 2017, 11:02:21 PM
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It is not totally unfair as the fees was same from starting itself if the price increased (Which is what matters). there's nothing we can do about it. No one complained when the fees was low and everyone was happy. When it became more everyone has problem. Just try to reduce the low amount transaction.
I guess it fair enough because the bitcoin price increasing rapidly and i guess fee will also increases too but thats not really fair in a small transaction maybe they can just depend the fees in the amount of bitcoin transactions made.
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May 11, 2017, 11:05:25 PM
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Well in my own interest fees really not fair for this days because they are keeping ask for high fees more and more while price is increasing the fee also increasing they should fix the issue of the transaction size increase..
They should change it for different speed of transaction and how much we want to paid transaction size is always the problem.
I always using other wallet but the problem when transferring to other wallet they asking almost $1 to $2 in bitcoin fee..
That is why other people are convert into bitcoin because of low fee..

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Not fair but I think it is reasonable. If you want a faster transaction, you shell out additional fees and lower fees for not so fast confirmations. I think it is not automatically setup but you have to select it manually in your wallet.I hope network improves so that it is convenient t0 send and receive transaction just like before.
the fee is already cheaper than any money transfer service, people who say it's unfair, better get off sending the money by themselves because they always consider the fee even a cent as unfair

yes sir! i spent a lot of money on money transfer fees, and the fee they charge on bitcoin is very reasonable compared to money transfer services, bitcoin transaction is faster and cheaper! Smiley

Fair has many different meanings, compared with fiat money transfers and fees like western union have ( I used them few times in the past ) bitcoin fees are fair and reasonable. Who doesn`t wish to wait pays a bit more and he have faster transaction, for all the people who don`t like fees can use some wallets without any fee, but don`t complain on a little waiting sometimes.



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May 12, 2017, 03:37:45 AM
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Not fair but I think it is reasonable. If you want a faster transaction, you shell out additional fees and lower fees for not so fast confirmations. I think it is not automatically setup but you have to select it manually in your wallet.I hope network improves so that it is convenient t0 send and receive transaction just like before.
the fee is already cheaper than any money transfer service, people who say it's unfair, better get off sending the money by themselves because they always consider the fee even a cent as unfair

yes sir! i spent a lot of money on money transfer fees, and the fee they charge on bitcoin is very reasonable compared to money transfer services, bitcoin transaction is faster and cheaper! Smiley

Fair has many different meanings, compared with fiat money transfers and fees like western union have ( I used them few times in the past ) bitcoin fees are fair and reasonable. Who doesn`t wish to wait pays a bit more and he have faster transaction, for all the people who don`t like fees can use some wallets without any fee, but don`t complain on a little waiting sometimes.
yep as long the transaction is successfully sent and received safely the cost should not be a problem and it's also reasonable when the high price of the user is also in profit with it.

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May 12, 2017, 04:40:03 AM
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As far as I know, it is always fair since the one who is making a transaction have choice if he wants to pay a regular, higher, or lower fee.  Whatever he chooses he must not blame miners for it since it is his choice to rather have fast confirmation or waiting for eternity for the confirmation of his transaction.
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May 12, 2017, 05:28:11 AM
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It is not totally unfair as the fees was same from starting itself if the price increased (Which is what matters). there's nothing we can do about it. No one complained when the fees was low and everyone was happy. When it became more everyone has problem. Just try to reduce the low amount transaction.
It's actually fair since a blockchain users can shoose what kind of transaction they want to choose. There are options for its user's to choose according to what they need. If they want lower fee's, they have to wait longer time than others who paid higher fee. Transaction's fee and time depends on what its user used to choose.



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May 12, 2017, 05:33:17 AM
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It is not totally unfair as the fees was same from starting itself if the price increased (Which is what matters). there's nothing we can do about it. No one complained when the fees was low and everyone was happy. When it became more everyone has problem. Just try to reduce the low amount transaction.
It's actually fair since a blockchain users can shoose what kind of transaction they want to choose. There are options for its user's to choose according to what they need. If they want lower fee's, they have to wait longer time than others who paid higher fee. Transaction's fee and time depends on what its user used to choose.
In addition, compared to the fees that we have in the real world as we use our fiat, Bitcoin is much fairer than those especially when you send some money from one part of the world to another which has a very low fee unlike when we send some money in a traditional way. They secure our Bitcoin and in exchange of their services this is a fair amount to pay for.

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To my mind when price becomes high, we have to pay low fee and when it becomes low, than fee has to be high. To my mind it had to be done like this from the begining.

What why? that's seems to be unfair also. I think increasing the transaction fees when the price is high is completely irrelevant no matter what the price bitcoin is the transaction fee should be always static.
What i mean bitcoin transaction fee should always be fixed. Especially when there is a delay in receiving payments because of the bitcoin scaling.

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May 12, 2017, 07:17:18 AM
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As far as I know, it is always fair since the one who is making a transaction have choice if he wants to pay a regular, higher, or lower fee.  Whatever he chooses he must not blame miners for it since it is his choice to rather have fast confirmation or waiting for eternity for the confirmation of his transaction.
The fees that they are choosing is based on their wants in speed of their transactions higher fees is equal to faster transaction confirmations, I think you are right that it is fair because we have the choice on how much fees we will put on our transaction and the role of the miners are just to confirm our transaction and they didn't dictated the amount of fees.
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May 12, 2017, 07:47:04 AM
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It's a free and 100% unregulated market, there's no "fair" or "unfair", if you don't like it, you don't use it. Also, you can set whatever fee you like, and miners are free to mine whatever transactions they want.
At the current state, Bitcoin's transactions make Bitcoin best suited for bigger transcations like salary, big purchases, real estate and also transfers over long distances. In those cases Bitcoin is far more cheaper than any digital payment method or bank.

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