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May 02, 2017, 04:36:59 AM |
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I pulled out of a Deal with buckrodgers and MindTrip I proceeded to pursue a deal without them because we were lied to by them. I have informed Bittawn about our dealings with them and he has decided to turn his head and proceed.
I have evidence in emails and messages to back up what I am saying and will ask my friends that were also talking to them to tell their story as well.
Shame on you Bittawn.
how you dare come to my thread and tarnish my name, Shame on you. Like I said, we are not transferring any btc until we all feel 100% safe. OVER 120 UNITS ALREADY SECURED BY THIS RESELLER I told you about this and you have decided to proceed -- PLEASE SHOW EVIDENCE WHERE 120 have been SECURED -- ASK THE MANUFACTURER YOURSELF He will say that they HAVE NOT PAID, correct?
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May 02, 2017, 04:37:57 AM |
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they may not have paid but its secured... ask the manufacturer and say bittawm
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kilo17
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May 02, 2017, 04:38:27 AM |
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how you dare come to my thread and tarnish my name, Shame on you.
I did not do this to you. You are doing a great job of it yourself.
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Chan8
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May 02, 2017, 04:39:18 AM |
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I pulled out of a Deal with buckrodgers and MindTrip I proceeded to pursue a deal without them because we were lied to by them. I have informed Bittawn about our dealings with them and he has decided to turn his head and proceed.
I have evidence in emails and messages to back up what I am saying and will ask my friends that were also talking to them to tell their story as well.
Shame on you Bittawn.
that's why I didn't get my call returned? I am dealing with heaps of people here chan8, by the time I saw your message the last deal was over. apologies apology accepted, appreciate it... but I was talking bout kilo17.
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kilo17
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May 02, 2017, 04:39:25 AM |
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they may not have paid but its secured... ask the manufacturer and say bittawm
That means NOTHING until money changes hands. They were counting on the 80-100 we were going to order most likely.
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May 02, 2017, 04:41:55 AM |
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Let us get serious Bittawn. Answer this question:
You know there is a great likelihood what I am saying is true. Are you saying that you are willing to RISK $500,000 of the community's money when there is a question about the integrity of the people you are doing business with on this deal
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May 02, 2017, 04:42:36 AM |
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they may not have paid but its secured... ask the manufacturer and say bittawm
That means NOTHING until money changes hands. They were counting on the 80-100 we were going to order most likely. I think you will find it does... ask the manufacturer...say bittawm
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May 02, 2017, 04:42:54 AM |
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Let's see
FASTEST MINER AVAILABLE - check
MUST BE PREPAID - check
PRIVATE INVESTORS - check
Hhhmmm
SCAM
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Gunna01
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May 02, 2017, 04:48:59 AM |
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Let's see
FASTEST MINER AVAILABLE by 9 fold - check
MUST BE PREPAID - check
PRIVATE INVESTORS - check
Hhhmmm
SCAM
Fixed that for you. Baikals fastest product is 1.2GH/s so this is 9 times faster than that. Not a bad jump from iBeLinks last X11 miner of 384Mh/S. Thats 28x their existing product.
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May 02, 2017, 04:49:24 AM |
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I am aware of 4 separate deals this manufacture is doing, or has proposed. Each of them have been for 5k per miner. For them to all of a sudden be $6750, when I know the other 3 of the 4 other deals have had time extensions to pay, is very unlikely.
I have always appreciated this mining community because we have mostly had each other's backs. This sort of stuff is distasteful if true that there is built in costs not discussed with the community. If you feel your time is worth a few extra miners, then say it and disclose it. I don't think any of us would fault for that. As soon as it is hidden, that is when trust is broken and we start to devolve into just another shitty community.
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kilo17
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May 02, 2017, 04:53:07 AM |
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I am aware of 4 separate deals this manufacture is doing, or has proposed. Each of them have been for 5k per miner. For them to all of a sudden be $6750, when I know the other 3 of the 4 other deals have had time extensions to pay, is very unlikely.
I have always appreciated this mining community because we have mostly had each other's backs. This sort of stuff is distasteful if true that there is built in costs not discussed with the community. If you feel your time is worth a few extra miners, then say it and disclose it. I don't think any of us would fault for that. As soon as it is hidden, that is when trust is broken and we start to devolve into just another shitty community.
Reelan is a friend of mine and was also lied to by these people. There are several of us.
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May 02, 2017, 04:53:31 AM |
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Here is the bottom line. The "Private Group" is trying to pull a fast one on the community. Here is how it plays out.
76 units is "NOT" selling extra on top of 100. That is complete bullshit. They want YOU, the community, to take ALL of the risk.
The cost per unit is $4998 from the manufacturer. I know because I have a contract. That means they need $500,000, half now and half at shipping time. So basically they need $250,000 as a down payment. Here is where it gets interesting:
They charge $6750/unit. They get YOU to put in half of that for 76 units. Guess what:
$3375 * 76 = $256,500.
So now 2 things can happen:
1 - They do not get delivered and everyone loses. EXCEPT for the "Private Group" who invested ZERO dollars.
2 - They do get delivered and you pay the other half of your money which totals $256,500. They get a FREE 24 Units and they took ZERO RISK with their money.
so THEY really DO NOT need you to buy 76 units, they need you to buy 100 units and they get 24 FREE
Good Luck
I needed to change the title so people do not think I am promoting this deal
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Chan8
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May 02, 2017, 04:53:59 AM |
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CAN SOMEONE JUST SPIT IT OUT, IS IT THE MANUFACTURER OR THIS SO CALLED "PRIVATE GROUP" THATS SHADY?
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May 02, 2017, 04:54:08 AM |
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Let's see
FASTEST MINER AVAILABLE - check
MUST BE PREPAID - check
PRIVATE INVESTORS - check
Hhhmmm
SCAM
private sellers are well trusted forum members the private sellers will be identified to buyers before sale buyers will all have individual contracts to sign also we can pay direct to manufacturer
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kilo17
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May 02, 2017, 04:54:35 AM |
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CAN SOMEONE JUST SPIT IT OUT, IS IT THE MANUFACTURER OR THIS SO CALLED "PRIVATE GROUP" THATS SHADY?
The "Private Group", the manufacturer seems great
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May 02, 2017, 04:55:56 AM |
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private sellers are well trusted forum members
the private sellers will be identified to buyers before sale
They are buckrodgers and Mindtrip. I will contact iBelink about this thread right now. DONE
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May 02, 2017, 04:57:39 AM |
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CAN SOMEONE JUST SPIT IT OUT, IS IT THE MANUFACTURER OR THIS SO CALLED "PRIVATE GROUP" THATS SHADY?
The "Private Group" the manufacturer seems great So why must you go through the 'private group' to deal with the manufacturer? Can a direct deal not be organised at the $4998 price?
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May 02, 2017, 04:58:08 AM |
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they may not have paid but its secured... ask the manufacturer and say bittawm
That means NOTHING until money changes hands. They were counting on the 80-100 we were going to order most likely. To be honest, kilo17 is correct on this one, because if there is no money/collateral tendered, then it isn't 100% secured no matter what. Lets say I decide to buy a Lamborghini and secured a contract saying so, so they do not sell that specific one to anyone else and only reserve it for me. If there is no money/collateral tendered, then I can freely backout and give them the finger a month later.
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May 02, 2017, 04:59:19 AM |
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CAN SOMEONE JUST SPIT IT OUT, IS IT THE MANUFACTURER OR THIS SO CALLED "PRIVATE GROUP" THATS SHADY?
The "Private Group" the manufacturer seems great So why must you go through the 'private group' to deal with the manufacturer? Can a direct deal not be organised at the $4998 price? Yes but it gets messy like this and the manufacturer does not want to do it. Which is very smart
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May 02, 2017, 05:04:13 AM |
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CAN SOMEONE JUST SPIT IT OUT, IS IT THE MANUFACTURER OR THIS SO CALLED "PRIVATE GROUP" THATS SHADY?
The "Private Group" the manufacturer seems great So why must you go through the 'private group' to deal with the manufacturer? Can a direct deal not be organised at the $4998 price? Yes but it gets messy like this and the manufacturer does not want to do it. Which is very smart So how did the 2 users form this forum get the ability to broker a deal?
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