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Hey there, Thanks for the nice words. What can I tell you, there are always polite and less polite people in a coin's community  To answer the concerns about the premine: The funds are locked in different wallets until the blockchain reaches a specific height. Imho this is way bettwr than an escrow. Of course devs didn't write "we won't do an exit scam". You didn't really mean that, did you? There is explained what the premine is for. Since I negotiat with a lot of echanges I am deeply convinced, that those funds are needed nowdays. Even with funds it is very hard to get listed. Also imho the fact that the funds are locked is a very nice and transparent way to make the team of sumo legit. Also: Sumoshi addressed the premine in his latest post here: https://medium.com/sumokoin/spring-plan-2018-9d0218c8db40We - the pr team - even made a special telegram group to discuss the premine and it's use with our communty. Long story short: it is very easy to talk bad about something. There already is a lot of info / transparency. One just has to look and read. I can understand why two of our devs decided to stay anon. If that is a concern I can again say: there is no need to buy sumo  2 of them use real names. You just have to goodle them. As part of sumo's pr team I would love to make pr with our devs vita, but they choose to make this project about tech and not vitas and advisors. Anyway I only can say it again: it is easy to talk trash. But there are many sides to a story. I don't take the guy who mostly insults team sumo serious. How could I?... I can only repeat myself: join us on telegram or ask specific questions here and we will try our best to answer them. |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency As for the premine I can officially assure you that it is not going to be dumped (since you asked for it). A small part of the first part of the premine, that will be released this summer, will be liquidated to pay the additional developing members which were needed for their math/crypto and coding skills cause devs have real life jobs and the development of the coin cannot always rely on their free time as well as for paying exchange listing fees. How can the premine be dumped when cryptopia's entire sumo order book is 4 BTC? You were insulted on telegram cause I told you that you want to be mouth fed and that you should dyor and come back with questions that you cant find on the released material or cannot be answered by themselves. I still insist |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol  Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL |
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March 08, 2018, 06:24:11 PM |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++). Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself. Bye investor |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++). Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself. Bye investor You just can't stop showing the finger Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste and calling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc, does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you? You are a little Trump fake news... I didn't say you copied the Monero GUI Wallet. But how hard is it to create a GUI that talks to the wallet-rpc daemon? Twisting facts... Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it... |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++). Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself. Bye investor You just can't stop showing the finger Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste and calling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc, does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you? Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it... On your first sentence you are calling the coin a scam and at your last you wish that i wasnt into this business cause i am hurting the coin.... 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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++). Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself. Bye investor You just can't stop showing the finger Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste and calling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc, does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you? Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it... On your first sentence you are calling the coin a scam and at your last you wish that i wasnt into this business cause i am hurting the coin.... Well enough with this nonsense say what you will LOL...you don't seize to amaze me. I have had more than enough "entertainment" for today. You beat watching "John Oliver". So much talk so little substance. I asked you to not scam people and that was not in my first sentence. I didn't say the coin is a scam... Maybe, try some different glasses. Don't twist facts... Fact is, you had nothing to add...There is no real added value and - yes - it's a bad copy of monero as it's missing the newest features and fixes. See? That's all I wanted to know and you finally managed to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks... @GerMining: Thanks for trying to help initially anyway. It's people like you who can make this coin succeed. |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++). Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself. Bye investor You just can't stop showing the finger Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste and calling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc, does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you? Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it... On your first sentence you are calling the coin a scam and at your last you wish that i wasnt into this business cause i am hurting the coin.... Well enough with this nonsense say what you will LOL...you don't seize to amaze me. I have had more than enough "entertainment" for today. You beat watching "John Oliver". So much talk so little substance. I asked you to not scam people and that was not in my first sentence. I didn't say the coin is a scam... Maybe, try some different glasses. Don't twist facts... Fact is, you had nothing to add...There is no real added value and - yes - it's a bad copy of monero as it's missing the newest features and fixes. See? That's all I wanted to know and you finally managed to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks... @GerMining: Thanks for trying to help initially anyway. It's people like you who can make this coin succeed. How do I scam people? So the coin is not a scam? I was the one who told you that you should NOT invest in it, wasnt i? Make up you mind |
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Seems like my nice comment got ignored by everybody ...  @CyberTrader every coin has good sides and bad sides. It always depends on what you focus on. Even XMR has it's cons. Anyway... You have written a lot of bs in your last few comments here ... (I'm not sure why though). Your "arguments" mostly make no sense (like comparing the HR of Sumo and ETN? Why would that lead to a valid conclusion about a coin? You "think" that our GUI is based on XMR's without even checking the code? I welcome a real discussion, but what you wrote in your last posts isn't leading anywhere.  You can do as you please, but if you write bad about Sumo, do your research correctly. You perfere XMR? Then talk about XMR in their ANN. It's rather impolite to join Sumo's ANN and write shit about it. Don't you think so? You don't see me spam their ANN at least ... |
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Has anyone been able to successfully withdraw their coins to their own wallet from Craptopia in the past 24-48 hours?
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
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I had about 100 transactions on Topia and never had any issue.
The support there got bad (long waiting times), but that is the case for all exchanges at the moment.
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March 09, 2018, 10:43:29 AM |
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Has anyone been able to successfully withdraw their coins to their own wallet from Craptopia in the past 24-48 hours?
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I made a withdrawal earlier tonight which took about 3.5 hours to hit my wallet, and I made a withdrawal last week which took about 2.5 hours. |
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March 09, 2018, 10:57:38 AM |
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Has anyone been able to successfully withdraw their coins to their own wallet from Craptopia in the past 24-48 hours?
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I’m based in Australia so maybe the proximity to cryptopia in New Zealand helps, but for me it generally takes a few minutes for a withdrawal to hit my Sumo wallet and less than half an hour before it’s unlocked. Have done a few withdrawals over the last couple of weeks and the last one was today. No issues. |
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March 09, 2018, 11:08:48 AM |
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At the now moment blockchain 6.29 GB.
Is it planned to connect to a remote node in the future, an light wallet option?
It would be very necessary and useful.
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March 09, 2018, 11:42:08 AM |
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Has anyone been able to successfully withdraw their coins to their own wallet from Craptopia in the past 24-48 hours?
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I bought and transferred Sumo to my wallet yesterday, from Cryptopia. It didn't take long before they appeared in my wallet. |
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March 09, 2018, 12:15:32 PM |
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Yes. Just check the roadmap on sumokoin.org
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Alright, thank you all @Germining, @cryptoreporting, @butcherano, @oddsig for your replies. I guess I'll try my luck once again.
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March 09, 2018, 01:10:59 PM |
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Alright, thank you all @Germining, @cryptoreporting, @butcherano, @oddsig for your replies. I guess I'll try my luck once again.
No worries |
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March 09, 2018, 01:21:51 PM |
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At the now moment blockchain 6.29 GB.
Is it planned to connect to a remote node in the future, an light wallet option?
It would be very necessary and useful.
From Sumokoin.org roadmap: First Quarter, 2018 Multi-signature + Lite Wallet • Multi-signature wallet implementation • Light-weight GUI wallet So March is going to be a good month, then in Second Quarter of 2018 bulletproofs(It's going to reduce future blockchain size with 80%) is being implemented, along with a mobile friendly web wallet. |
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