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April 30, 2013, 10:24:38 PM
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Just had a thought: wouldn't embedding a bit of code that comes from well known viruses be an even bigger annoyance in the blockchain than links to CP? Not because they can execute in memory, but because AntiVirus scanners will stumble on them and mark your whole blockchain file as infected  Tongue
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April 30, 2013, 10:32:25 PM
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It's not just Bitcoin, but number theory is illegal too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime

Obviously you can compute prime of illegal link as well.

Legal system which does prosecute innocent bystanders (blockchain users) while whomever created the initial tx (or computed and published the prime, for that matter) is at large, is ultimately flawed.
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April 30, 2013, 10:53:30 PM
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good job building up the bitcoin + kiddie porn seo with this thread, guys.

And likewise, you've done some great work by bumping the thread.   Tongue

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April 30, 2013, 11:28:36 PM
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Can it not be prevented? maybe not for old records, but isn't there a way to block text from being stored in the chain?

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April 30, 2013, 11:37:27 PM
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A blog post on this crapola: http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/04/on-bitcoin-data-spam-and-evil-data.html

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May 01, 2013, 04:59:41 AM
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I was wrong when I said this needs to be fixed.

As for running a full node, there are no delays if you run it 24/7. Anyone who is able should run a full node, otherwise Bitcoin will stop being P2P.

There is no problem with they way Bitcoin works, the problem are the laws. Laws that protect child abuse and sex trafficking, by sheltering the public from the truth through censorship. This also prevents investigation by third parties.

It seems politicians are concerned with people accidentally stumbling upon a web site, rather than punishing slavers and child abusers. I do believe that those who profit from CP should be punished, though less than those who produce it.

Another problem is that recently (it wasn't like this when I was a child), nudity = porn, which is just stupid.
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May 01, 2013, 08:46:18 AM
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I'm not really convinced by this. I'm sure that if someone looked hard enough in the blockchain they would be able to find objectionable words, even without them having being injected intentionally. Also, any irrational number(let's take pi) contains your phone number, address, and any picture concievable if the right software is used for interpretation simply because it's an infinite random non-repeating string of data. As the blockchain increases in size this is bound to happen. Nobody's going to ban pi for storing porn. I doubt it could have implications for the blockchain.
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May 01, 2013, 09:17:54 AM
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Why don't prosecute ISP for routing kid porn, or electrical company Huh
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May 01, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
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Code:
/HHTT/I am a pretty princess/
/HHTT/covered in mud and blood/
/HHTT/water with stuff in it/
/HHTT/like everything else that wiggles or jiggles/
/HHTT/came into the world naked, wet and screaming/
/HHTT/see no reason to operate otherwise since/
/HHTT/screaming might not be your waY/
/HHTT/but silence will never be mine/
/HHTT/until I am dead/
/HHTT/but the smell will also give that away/
/HHTT/gather all my things/
/HHTT/load them in a big boat/
/HHTT/airlift that to Kansas/
/HHTT/drop it from 7,000 feet/
/HHTT/and light it on fire/
/HHTT/then railgun my corpse straight down/

Chinese? Possibly an inside joke about BFL?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hhtt

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May 01, 2013, 10:27:40 AM
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Child porn links can also be encoded into bank transactions. 

Does that mean that banks are legally obliged to delete such transactions from their database, once they find out about them?

Somehow I doubt it.

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May 01, 2013, 11:08:01 AM
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Can it not be prevented? maybe not for old records, but isn't there a way to block text from being stored in the chain?

Not as long as the text is being stored steganographically. Example: If someone sends a transaction of 1.495438 BTC, there is no way of proving whether the digits after the 1 are being used to encode text.

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May 01, 2013, 07:00:11 PM
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I'm really sorry that no one who is attached with the physical development of bitcoin sees no wisdom in issuing a statement about this tweet. You guys seem to enjoy deciding who should represent Bitcoin for official press inquiries, but when media bate tweets appear, it's not worth your time.

Please be consistent. Either stay out of media decisions or stay completely involved.

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May 01, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
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I'm really sorry that no one who is attached with the physical development of bitcoin sees no wisdom in issuing a statement about this tweet. You guys seem to enjoy deciding who should represent Bitcoin for official press inquiries, but when media bate tweets appear, it's not worth your time.

Please be consistent. Either stay out of media decisions or stay completely involved.

A blog post on this crapola: http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/04/on-bitcoin-data-spam-and-evil-data.html

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May 01, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
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I asked about tweeter. A blog post is not tweeter. You can link to one. It is easy and simply to do. Instead of calling me a FUD troll, why don't you just tweet something? Jesus man

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May 01, 2013, 07:51:13 PM
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I asked about tweeter. A blog post is not tweeter. You can link to one. It is easy and simply to do. Instead of calling me a FUD troll, why don't you just tweet something? Jesus man

Well why don't you just tweet the blog posts link  Roll Eyes  Bitcoin is not a corporation or a business its a p2p opensource project.  Yes there is a charitable foundation but why should they start making announcements about CP.  I feel the blog post covered it well and anyone interested in the matter can be sent to that blog post IMO.

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May 01, 2013, 07:52:08 PM
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I'm just some guy. A dev tweeting gives creditability and also will reach a proper audience. It really isn't much to ask.

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May 01, 2013, 09:02:08 PM
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I'm just some guy. A dev tweeting gives creditability and also will reach a proper audience. It really isn't much to ask.

Stop asking for leaders and governors. You are the P in P2P. Act like it  Smiley
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May 01, 2013, 09:03:53 PM
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Actually I was talking with a couple of journalists who are writing about this yesterday.

You want one of us to address the issue publicly? Well, wait a day or two and you'll get your wish.
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May 01, 2013, 09:24:59 PM
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Thank you. That's all I asked for. There has to be rapid response to issues like these.

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May 02, 2013, 02:49:27 PM
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Can some core devs please make fools of themselves on this issue ASAP? 

I'd like to hear something like "we really care about making other people think we believe certain numbers should be illegal to speak, write down, or even think about".  Or perhaps just some blogs that contain the phrase "blah blah MY_NAME blah blah SOCIETAL_TABOO".     

In the meantime, some of you anonymous lurkers could please release a mathematical function f(x) such that when x is the source of whitehouse.gov returns f(x) which is a copyrighted song with steganographically injected pictures of you know what.   

Thanks Smiley

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