If so: shouldn't he get a warning that Bitcointalk isn't like other internet forums when it comes to plagiarism?
The affected Account has already received at least 1 warning (maybe 2) if I remember correctly and it was pointed out to him to quote properly. He still continues, he doesn't care even if he's told to use proper quoting. I've created even a separate thread for it, he does not care.
I've translated that part recently to prevent confusion:
Translation of my post:
Therefore, important reminder:
Plagiarism is not allowed and is a strong offense leading to a ban if you do it. Chances to get your account back are very low.
So please be careful and don't plagiarize by paying attention to:
Posted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142306.0It's always good to remember how this topic started: shitposters copying posts from other Bitcointalk users. I don't think that's the case here.
Yes, it's not the case here but in 2019 or 2020 we had a big ban wave, many high-ranked accounts were banned for much less. Some received a temp ban, some received a permanent ban. I remember 1 legendary member from our bord received a temp ban for posting twitter links from a project, which he managed in Bitcointalk, because he forget to post a link to the tweet.
There was much more, I think I don't need to tell more examples.
Even the most established accounts fought to get their permanent ban changed to a temp ban. We all know it, there were big contributors affected.
I was not a friend of banning these accounts permantently without even a single warning and so I'm still not a friend of permanent bans.
But we should stop lying to ourselves if we completely reverse our judgement now and don't enforce even some repeated offenders.
That's exactly the opposite of what we did in 2019/2020:
2019/2020: ban almost everything without warning, there are only exceptions for big contributors to get the ban changed into a temp ban.
2022: even almost nothing even if there wasn't used a single thing of it: no provided link, no "quote" function, no use of italic text and no quotation marks.
At least we should issue a warning once and after it: first temp ban, if the account commits an offense again, permanent ban. We need consistency.
Otherwise, plagiarizers will continue because it's affordable and the can get away with it.
I hate to see contributing users banned just because they didn't know plagiarism is punished much harder than scamming.
I totally agree here! 100%
But nothing is relevant to the affected account.
1. The account is contributing little to nothing to the forum. Instead, he's one of the problematic nonsense troll account, abusing the platform for his own agenda.
Yes, he's not a paid account from signatures but there's a big difference between Altcoin Shitposters and local troll accounts: while people posting on the Altcoin board are almost always paid, that's a bit different for local sections. Some local sections are full of troll accounts using the forum for their own selfish interests. We know it from Meta sometimes (Troll accounts), from the turkish section or the russian section, where a large number of troll accounts is active and sometimes moves to Meta.
Maybe you've read from KingScorpio, he's also a trolll account from the German section, not paid (the signature he's wearing is his own retarded and failed scam project) but he still posts so much everyday, it's insane. No need to be paid, some of these accounts are completely lunatic. KingScorpio is by far the worst troll account but that doesn't mean there's no one else in the German section. There are several accounts involved in that BS, even some repeated offenders of Plagiarism like thandie. They are always available to produce shitloads of nonsense. No need to be a paid account. That's also why a sigban doesn't affect them.
Such accounts are not beneficial for the forum. They don't care that rules exist, they are only a few but they are destroying Bitcointalk from inside if we don't act. Recently, a contributor from the German board said he'll leave Bitcointalk it if the trolling continues and I have to admit he's right. There is a big problem in the German section and we have to stop acting like it doesn't exist.
2. He was well aware that improper quoting is a bannable offense, he was reminded to make proper quotes, he still doesn't care. He knows he can do it again because he will get again away with it.
It's a blatant 1:1 copy paste, the plagiarism post doesn't provide a link, doesn't use a "quote" function, doesn't use italic text and doesn't even use quotation marks...
It's an obvious copy/paste, but not a case of plagiarism for me.
He gives the name of the author (Wolfgang Kubicki), he does not appropriate the content.
I rarely deal with plagiarism, but if I had this case, I would not have asked for a ban. And I see that Mole added the source and put quotes, I would probably have done the same.
I had decided as you can see in the history for the variant that Halab would also have chosen.
It was an
incorrect posting but Beobachter_90 never pretended that it was his own text and therefore it is not a real plagiarism.
In such cases you have to differentiate and act with sensitivity.
We "acted with sensitivity" already multiple times, told some of them to avoid plagiarism and quote properly. I've even created a separate thread in German regarding proper quoting, so nobody can say they can't read it because it's in English.
They still commit plagiarism, they still don't care at all.
I'm totally ok with plagiarism being not punished after 1 offense but nobody can say after pointing it out, a second time is acceptable. If we don't enforce it, it's 100% clown show.
It's a slap in the face for all those accounts which were banned for much less and without warning in 2019 / 2020. You know these stories.
If we are consistent, we need to un-ban all those accounts from 2019/2020 because that is currently what's going on at least in the German section where some accounts have recently plagiarized multiple times, were multiple times asked to quote properly because plagiarism is a bannable offense and these accounts STILL DON'T CARE.
