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July 19, 2017, 02:23:52 AM
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I lol so hard at the BU blocks. Why? Why oh why! -edit- looks like the BU blocks are slowly dying so whoever was running BU nodes is slowly migrating.
Never fear, the big blockers will be back with their next hard fork coup attempt in the guise of bitcoinABC.

And Band of UASF Brothers will be waiting for them again. We till throw them into the sea just like the last time.

Yes. We tremble in fear from the image of pasty geeks trying to look tough grasping poorly maintained implements of vegetation maintenance.

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July 19, 2017, 02:35:08 AM
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... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....
Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this.

Why? Can't exchange without exchanging. I'm up over a full Bitcoin in just the last two days by capitalizing on the volatility.

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For some use cases, yes. For others, no.

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At least with those you own the private keys. If the exchanges have issues your coins could be locked away until they sort out their problems.

An acknowledged risk. Which is why I hold the bulk of my BTC on an airgapped system Armory install, with networked watch-only wallet running atop Bitcoin Unlimited, on my non-mining, fully validating node. But I do have a small portion of my BTC on exchange. The return has been demonstrated to be well worth the risk



Oh look! Price just dropped to my next standing buy order. Pocket another 23 mills of profit, enter corresponding sell. Lather, rinse, repeat.

^^ that's why.

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July 19, 2017, 02:49:13 AM
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I lol so hard at the BU blocks. Why? Why oh why! -edit- looks like the BU blocks are slowly dying so whoever was running BU nodes is slowly migrating.
Never fear, the big blockers will be back with their next hard fork coup attempt in the guise of bitcoinABC.

And Band of UASF Brothers will be waiting for them again. We till throw them into the sea just like the last time.

Yes. We tremble in fear from the image of pasty geeks trying to look tough grasping poorly maintained implements of vegetation maintenance.

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Cheesy True story!!  Cheesy

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July 19, 2017, 03:15:13 AM
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Why? Can't exchange without exchanging. I'm up over a full Bitcoin in just the last two days by capitalizing on the volatility.

True, but I was thining of the people who use the exchange wallet as a "savings account" . These people are not really traders. Traders I totally understand needing to leave some btc on the exchange's hot wallet.

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with networked watch-only wallet running atop Bitcoin Unlimited, on my non-mining, fully validating node.

Eewwwww, Bitcoin Unlimited  Cheesy *plugs nose*. I kid, I kid. So you gonna join the great SegWit revolution?

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July 19, 2017, 03:32:38 AM
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with networked watch-only wallet running atop Bitcoin Unlimited, on my non-mining, fully validating node.

Eewwwww, Bitcoin Unlimited  Cheesy *plugs nose*. I kid, I kid.

It's even worse - it's an older version from before the DoS attacks / bug failures - not the newer patched and hardened variety. Oh-the-hugemanatee!.gif

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Only if forced, kicking and screaming. I will never accept SegWit coins as being the true equivalent of Bitcoins. For they are not. They are but a cheap substitute. With a vastly inferior security model.

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July 19, 2017, 07:24:58 AM
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Don't worry, I promise we'll be gentle on you. We'll wear latex gloves and apply aloe vera lotion to your skin, and once you've arrived at your destination we'll give you a free SegWit cookie!  Wink

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July 19, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
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Slush started signalling SW in case anyone is wondering.
Yes I was wondering.

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July 19, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
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... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....
Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this.

Calling for a BANKRUN?
   
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July 19, 2017, 09:07:33 AM
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... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....
Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this.

Calling for a BANKRUN?
   
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Pssh, a bankrun is no biggie when the sky is falling!

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July 19, 2017, 09:08:18 AM
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Oh oh, someone is playing some games. BIP 91 was at 81 briefly now it dropped to 79%? hmm

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July 19, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
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Oh oh, someone is playing some games. BIP 91 was at 81 briefly now it dropped to 79%? hmm


Bitcoin.com switched from BIP91 to BU.

Sigh....
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July 19, 2017, 09:29:06 AM
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A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

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July 19, 2017, 10:10:00 AM
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A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

That's not a very probable "issue". It was very good that gmaxwell caught it but I don't think it will a serious cause for concern. There are manual methods the nodes can ensure that they communicate with each other. But I suppose it's the prudent thing to do.

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July 19, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
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I mean let's just wrap this up before the next bit of drama (everyone groan and say 2mb hard fork together) .... (Bitcoin the hot mess bi-polar girlfriend you can't live without)




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July 19, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
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A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

Is this why f2pool and bitfury still holding? Yesterday Bitfury was signaling bip 91, today they changed to segwit.

I'm tracking this through xbt.eu
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July 19, 2017, 11:12:35 AM
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A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

Is this why f2pool and bitfury still holding? Yesterday Bitfury was signaling bip 91, today they changed to segwit.

I'm tracking this through xbt.eu

Bitfury have said they are now:
https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/887557125437829121

Only f2pool is left of the big pools and there's already enough hashrate so they'll definitely do it knowing that.

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July 19, 2017, 11:12:39 AM
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267 blocks before current lock-in period ends. Still 212 blocks needed for a lock-in.

https://www.xbt.eu/

this is less than 80 % needed ...

And last 144 blocks say 81.9% - so it should be ok ....

44.5 h to go

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July 19, 2017, 11:54:38 AM
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A few are holding out or have reverted while they get clarification on the latest problem with the fork as pointed out to them by gmaxwell here https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/85 . They're waiting to see how bad an issue it might be in the real world before deploying it (+/- again).

Is this why f2pool and bitfury still holding? Yesterday Bitfury was signaling bip 91, today they changed to segwit.

I'm tracking this through xbt.eu

Bitfury have said they are now:
https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/887557125437829121

Only f2pool is left of the big pools and there's already enough hashrate so they'll definitely do it knowing that.

I thought I read somewhere here that f2pool actually wanted to signal bip 91 but had ddos attacks preventing them to update their clients. But couldn't find a public announcement about this.

http://news.8btc.com/f2pool-under-a-wave-of-ddos-attacks

I don't know if they getting ddosed because they haven't yet signaled bip 91. Tongue

Its always funny to see Roger Ver signaling BU. Cheesy
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July 19, 2017, 12:27:15 PM
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Ver should just start his own coin - Vercoin! I have a feeling Roger will signal BU till the very bitter end.

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July 19, 2017, 01:00:09 PM
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Ver should just start his own coin - Vercoin! I have a feeling Roger will signal BU till the very bitter end.


I've been asking the same question myself. The aswer probably is that Ver isn't a good programmer/cryptographer to invent a new coin. The whitepapers of ethereum and zcash for example are way beyond his IQ capacity  Grin Another reason is that if a coin is a fork to bitcoin it will attract more the pump groups in Poloniex.
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