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Hello, i would like to have a list of ASIC-Miner-Developers that want to create a miner for avalon-asics. This list should stay here in first post to have an overview. I will add assemblers too now. This list is not for Miners that are sold with ASICs included already (No BFL Miner, Avalon Miner or Asicminer Miner). The list only contains offers whats to do with Avalon ASIC Chips that can be bought at Avalon store or at one of the many Avalon ASIC Group buys. There is a list with producers of complete miners including Avalon ASIC's (you cant send them your chips) below. Note: Please check out for yourself if the developers are trustworthy. I didnt do this check for all of them, i only list them.Please note that the prices most likely are still tentative!Forum User | Project Name | Thread | Miner for X ASIC's | Needs your ASIC's sent to? | Product Type | Cost of Product | Complete miner Price per Chip | Licence fee to developer? | Developer/ Assembler Location | What happens with product? | burnin | BitBurner X | Click | 10 | Yes | Complete Miner with cooling | 98€ + VAT | 9.8€ + VAT | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner XX | Click | 20 | Yes | Complete Miner with cooling | 105€ + VAT | 5.25€ + VAT | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner X | Click | 10 | Yes | Complete Miner with watercooling | 145€ + VAT | 14.5€ + VAT | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner XX | Click | 20 | Yes | Complete Miner with watercooling | 150€ + VAT | 15€ + VAT | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner X+XX | Click | 30 | Yes | Complete Miner with watercooling | 240€ + VAT | 8€ + VAT | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner XX+XX | Click | 40 | Yes | Complete Miner with watercooling | 245€ + VAT | 6.125€ + VAT | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner X | Click | 10 | Yes | Barebone Miner complete but without Cooling and attachment materials | 90€ + VAT | | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner XX | Click | 20 | Yes | Barebone Miner complete but without Cooling and attachment materials | 96€ + VAT | | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | burnin | BitBurner X | Click | 10-20 | On your wish | Empty PCB without any parts for DIY | 25€ | | Self developed | Germany, Hamburg | Sent to Customer | flyonwall | Condo | Click | 10 | Yes | Complete Miner with cooling (based on Avalon reference design) | 160 units for 1.34BTC each (64 sold) all further units cost 2.54BTC | 0.134BTC-0.254BTC | Not needed (Avalon Design) | Philippines, Cebu City | Kept by Developer, hosted at Douglas County, Washington, USA (power cost $0.02kWh) and pays out dividend | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 1 | No | DIY (Including board + parts | without ASIC, heat sink, ATX PSU and cables) See Note *1 | $16 | | Self developed | Thailand | Sent to Customer | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 16 | No | DIY (Including board + parts | without ASIC, heat sink, ATX PSU and cables) See Note *1 | $35 | | Self developed | Thailand | Sent to Customer | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 64 | No | DIY (Including board + parts | without ASIC, heat sink, ATX PSU and cables) See Note *1 | $100 | | Self developed | Thailand | Sent to Customer | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 1 | No | DIY (Including board only) | $6 | | Self developed | Thailand | Sent to Customer | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 16 | No | DIY (Including board only) | $12 | | Self developed | Thailand | Sent to Customer | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 64 | No | DIY (Including board only) | $25 | | Self developed | Thailand | Sent to Customer | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 16 | No | Open Source Miner Plans only | Free | | Self developed | Thailand | Downloadable | BkkCoins | Klondike | Click | 64 | No | Open Source Miner Plans only | Free | | Self developed | Thailand | Downloadable | allten | Quarter Stick | Click | 1 | Yes | Complete Miner | | | Self developed | | Sent to Customer | ryepdx | Stumptown Miner | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner with heatsink (Klondike Template) | $107 | $6.6875 | | USA, Westcoast | Sent to Customer | ryepdx | Stumptown Miner | Click | 64 | Yes | Complete Miner with heatsink (Klondike Blueprint) | $428 | $6.6875 | | USA, Westcoast | Sent to Customer | terrahash | | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner with heatsink (Klondike) | $90 | $5.625 | | US | Sent to Customer/ Hosting possible | terrahash | | Click | 64 | Yes | Complete Miner with heatsink (Klondike) | $250 | $3.90625 | | US | Sent to Customer/ Hosting possible | marto74 | TECHNOBTCIT | Click | 1 | Yes | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 19.50€ | | 0.02BTC to Dev | Bulgaria, Sofia | Sent to Customer | marto74 | TECHNOBTCIT | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 40-59€ + 3.90€ heatsink | 2.74375€ - 3.93125€ | 0.04BTC to Dev | Bulgaria, Sofia | Sent to Customer | marto74 | TECHNOBTCIT | Click | 10 | Yes | Complete Miner | | | Self developed | Bulgaria, Sofia | Sent to Customer | sensei | Mitten Mining | Click | 1 | Yes | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 0.3BTC | 0.3BTC | | USA, Michigan | Sent to Customer | sensei | Mitten Mining | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 0.75BTC | 0.046875BTC | | USA, Michigan | Sent to Customer | sensei | Mitten Mining | Click | 64 | Yes | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | | | | USA, Michigan | Sent to Customer | steamboat | | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | $95 Assembly + Partsprices | | | USA, Florida | Sent to Customer / Hosting possible for 8% + power cost | bizwoo | | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner including heatsink (Klondike Blueprint) | 65€ | 4.0625€ | 12-24h testing for licence fee to dev | Spain, Barcelona | Sent to Customer | villex | | Click | 10 | Yes | Klondike or burnin Blueprint / Price doesnt include parts needed | $40 per 10 Chips | $4 | 48hours mining test to developer | El Salvador, Santa Ana | Sent to Customer / Hosting possible for 10% | DaGreatRV | Lunch-Box-48 | Click | 48 | No | Open Source Miner Plans only | Free | | Self developed | | Downloadable | t13hydra | | Click | 16 | Yes | Complete Miner including heatsink (Klondike Blueprint) | 0.56-0.85BTC | 0.035BTC - 0.053125BTC | 0.04BTC per board to dev | Romania, Cluj Napoca | Sent to customer or hosted for 10% monthly fee | giorgiomassa | bitmine.ch | Click | 80 | Yes | Complete Miner with case (Avalon Blueprint) | $1197.5 - $2180 | $14.96875 - $27.25 | Not needed (Avalon Design) | | Sent to customer | giorgiomassa | bitmine.ch | Click | 80 | Yes | Single Hash Module (Avalon Blueprint) | $890 | | Not needed (Avalon Design) | | Sent to customer | strombom | | Click | 80 | Yes | Single Hash Module (Avalon Blueprint) | $730 | $9.125 | Not needed (Avalon Design) | | Sent to customer | danattacker | Davalon | Click | 10 | No | Open Source Miner Plans only | Free | | Self developed | USA | Downloadable | aauer1 | MiniMiner USB | Click | 1 | No | DIY (Including board only) | | | Self developed | Austria,Graz | Sent to Customer | innovina | CalicoMiner | Click | 4 | Yes | Complete Miner without Cooling | 40€ | 10€ | Self developed | Germany, Worms | Sent to Customer | innovina | CalicoMiner | Click | 10x4 | Yes | Complete Miner with Cooling | 350€ | 8,75€ | Self developed | Germany, Worms | Sent to Customer |
*1 (Klondike) If you want to create a miner with this set you need: "Board, parts, oven (preferably with temp profile controller), skill, solder paste, stencil, technical aptitude, some inspection magnifier probably, tweezers (preferably vacuum), dexterity with tiny parts (0402 caps are the size of a grain of rice), soldering iron for fixes and thru-hole pins. Maybe I've forgotten something, but otherwise that's it." Please give more details, ill add it here then. The following list is for Sellers of complete Miners that include Avalon ASIC Chips and are ready to run. You cant send them your chips for these miners! Note: Please check out for yourself if the developers are trustworthy. I didnt do this check for all of them, i only list them.Forum User | Project Name | Thread | Miner for X ASIC's | Needs your ASIC's sent to? | Product Type | Cost of Product | Complete Miner Price per Chip | Licence fee to developer? | Developer/ Assembler Location | What happens with product? | Bicknellski | Big Picture Mining Cooperative | Click | 1 | No | Complete Miner K1 (Klondike Blueprint) | $49.99 | $49.99 | $0.50 per board to dev + partly donation from 12-24 minertest | Indonesia (Only for Indonesians) | Customer has to visit, pay and pick up the product | terrahash | | Click | 16 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike) | 1.99BTC | 0.124375BTC | | US | Sent to Customer/ Hosting possible | terrahash | | Click | 64 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike) | 6.99BTC | 0.10921875BTC | | US | Sent to Customer/ Hosting possible | philr13 | | Click | 16 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike) | 4.5BTC | 0.28125BTC | | United Kingdom | Sent to Customer/ Hosting possible | philr13 | | Click | 64 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike) | 12.25BTC | 0.19140625BTC | | United Kingdom | Sent to Customer/ Hosting possible | steamboat | | Click | 16 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 1.376BTC + $95 Assembly + Partsprices | | | USA, Florida | Sent to Customer / Hosting possible for 8% + power cost | bizwoo | | Click | 16 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 1.312BTC + 60€ | 0.082BTC + 3.75€ | 12-24h testing for licence fee to dev | Spain, Barcelona | Sent to Customer | t13hydra | | Click | 16 | No | Complete Miner (Klondike Blueprint) | 1.856-2.146BTC | 0.0116BTC - 0.134125BTC | 0.04BTC per board to dev | Romania, Cluj Napoca | Sent to customer or hosted for 10% monthly fee | giorgiomassa | bitmine.ch | Click | 80 | No | Complete Miner with case (Avalon Blueprint) | $1749.75 - $2740 | $21.871875 - $34.25 | Not needed (Avalon Design) | | Sent to customer | giorgiomassa | bitmine.ch | Click | 80 | No | Single Hash Module (Avalon Blueprint) | $1790 | $22.375 | Not needed (Avalon Design) | | Sent to customer |
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May 02, 2013, 03:07:50 AM |
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I knew there was something I wanted to do earlier today and it seems you beat me to it! This will definitely come useful , and it may be nice to have another column of ETA as each forum post is updated as there are just so many posts to go through on each one.
thanks for starting!
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I knew there was something I wanted to do earlier today and it seems you beat me to it! This will definitely come useful , and it may be nice to have another column of ETA as each forum post is updated as there are just so many posts to go through on each one.
thanks for starting!
What do you mean with ETA? I guess its hard to tell when the design is ready and tested or how fast a miner can be created. If you mean the info posted in this thread... once i see new info i will add it into the first post for a better overview.
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May 02, 2013, 03:43:06 PM |
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Well I'm sure not all designs are created equally. so I wonder if each Dev has their own ETA right now. i.e. 2 weeks to market,3 weeks etc? I mean some people have full time jobs and others don't so someone may be able to work on this for 20 hrs/day if they could while others may only have 5 hours / day.
Also stating if its DIY/Fully Finished/In-between maybe good for the different folks on the board.
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Well I'm sure not all designs are created equally. so I wonder if each Dev has their own ETA right now. i.e. 2 weeks to market,3 weeks etc? I mean some people have full time jobs and others don't so someone may be able to work on this for 20 hrs/day if they could while others may only have 5 hours / day.
Also stating if its DIY/Fully Finished/In-between maybe good for the different folks on the board.
Pretty hard for that estimate. Depending on who is trying to get a jump on it and who might be lucky enough to guess right even before the avalon specs come out. Boards could even be ready before the chips are even shipped by some timelines... that means the time it takes to get chips to the boards would be the limiting factor in most of these builds. So conservatively a few weeks after chips DESCEND ON THE BOARD BUILDERS LIKE LOCUSTS for boards to start hashing in the wild. For a DIY who will get boards and either do the reflow at home or take it to a local SMT you might need to add a little time depending on their skills sets, but the PCB builders may even have working prototypes with those lose Avalon chips we have heard about so...when? Within 2 to 4 weeks of the chips arrival for most if the boards are up to snuff is my best guess on all the designs I have read about. That means if there are no BFL types PCB builders you might see more hash power come from DIY avalon chips than BFL can muster and cheaper.
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I think the first chipbatches will arrive in some months. And in this month avalon will provide a free miner design. That means its possible that no developers are needed at all to create a miner. But the miners created by the developers can only be tested once they can run the miner with a chip to test it out. In 4 weeks test-chips are sent out so that miner-developers can test their miner.
What i mean... it takes some time until the chips arrive anyway. And when they arrive the miners will be ready to be created. A ETA isnt needed because of that i think.
But maybe i misunderstood you.
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I think the first chipbatches will arrive in some months. And in this month avalon will provide a free miner design. That means its possible that no developers are needed at all to create a miner. But the miners created by the developers can only be tested once they can run the miner with a chip to test it out. In 4 weeks test-chips are sent out so that miner-developers can test their miner.
What i mean... it takes some time until the chips arrive anyway. And when they arrive the miners will be ready to be created. A ETA isnt needed because of that i think.
But maybe i misunderstood you.
right - they said they would provide a reference design. But even if you use that you still have to get the PCBs ordered and the boards assembled.
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I think the first chipbatches will arrive in some months. And in this month avalon will provide a free miner design. That means its possible that no developers are needed at all to create a miner. But the miners created by the developers can only be tested once they can run the miner with a chip to test it out. In 4 weeks test-chips are sent out so that miner-developers can test their miner.
What i mean... it takes some time until the chips arrive anyway. And when they arrive the miners will be ready to be created. A ETA isnt needed because of that i think.
But maybe i misunderstood you.
right - they said they would provide a reference design. But even if you use that you still have to get the PCBs ordered and the boards assembled. Thats right. But i think there will be at least a month between reference design and chipdelivery. Enough time to make contracts or get the parts. And if the developers really can deliver as fast as they wish can only show the future. burnin plans 1000 units a week. I dont know if it will work out. Asic-companies very often have problems with their plans.
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@SebastianJu you made sense to my question. I wasn't sure what kind of "reference" Avalon was releasing though, but who knows maybe its an exact copy of their hardware. I just wouldn't know how one would start verifying the design before ordering X boards. I guess you would just order a few test boards then.
anyway, good info to have in a post!
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Thanks Sebastian, this will come in handy!
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Indeed! nice thread!
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awesome thread sir
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I think the first chipbatches will arrive in some months. And in this month avalon will provide a free miner design. That means its possible that no developers are needed at all to create a miner. But the miners created by the developers can only be tested once they can run the miner with a chip to test it out. In 4 weeks test-chips are sent out so that miner-developers can test their miner.
What i mean... it takes some time until the chips arrive anyway. And when they arrive the miners will be ready to be created. A ETA isnt needed because of that i think.
But maybe i misunderstood you.
right - they said they would provide a reference design. But even if you use that you still have to get the PCBs ordered and the boards assembled. Thats right. But i think there will be at least a month between reference design and chipdelivery. Enough time to make contracts or get the parts. And if the developers really can deliver as fast as they wish can only show the future. burnin plans 1000 units a week. I dont know if it will work out. Asic-companies very often have problems with their plans. From burnin's thread I have found something very reassuring: He plans on doing a lot of stuff himself, but the part that is most time consuming, is contracted to another company that usually does this kind of stuff for electronics used in aviation.
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I think the first chipbatches will arrive in some months. And in this month avalon will provide a free miner design. That means its possible that no developers are needed at all to create a miner. But the miners created by the developers can only be tested once they can run the miner with a chip to test it out. In 4 weeks test-chips are sent out so that miner-developers can test their miner.
What i mean... it takes some time until the chips arrive anyway. And when they arrive the miners will be ready to be created. A ETA isnt needed because of that i think.
But maybe i misunderstood you.
right - they said they would provide a reference design. But even if you use that you still have to get the PCBs ordered and the boards assembled. Thats right. But i think there will be at least a month between reference design and chipdelivery. Enough time to make contracts or get the parts. And if the developers really can deliver as fast as they wish can only show the future. burnin plans 1000 units a week. I dont know if it will work out. Asic-companies very often have problems with their plans. From burnin's thread I have found something very reassuring: He plans on doing a lot of stuff himself, but the part that is most time consuming, is contracted to another company that usually does this kind of stuff for electronics used in aviation. Definitely. Guys any idea when Avalon's blueprint is due? Hoping someone could manage a high-density PCB.
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I think the first chipbatches will arrive in some months. And in this month avalon will provide a free miner design. That means its possible that no developers are needed at all to create a miner. But the miners created by the developers can only be tested once they can run the miner with a chip to test it out. In 4 weeks test-chips are sent out so that miner-developers can test their miner.
What i mean... it takes some time until the chips arrive anyway. And when they arrive the miners will be ready to be created. A ETA isnt needed because of that i think.
But maybe i misunderstood you.
right - they said they would provide a reference design. But even if you use that you still have to get the PCBs ordered and the boards assembled. Thats right. But i think there will be at least a month between reference design and chipdelivery. Enough time to make contracts or get the parts. And if the developers really can deliver as fast as they wish can only show the future. burnin plans 1000 units a week. I dont know if it will work out. Asic-companies very often have problems with their plans. From burnin's thread I have found something very reassuring: He plans on doing a lot of stuff himself, but the part that is most time consuming, is contracted to another company that usually does this kind of stuff for electronics used in aviation. Definitely. Guys any idea when Avalon's blueprint is due? Hoping someone could manage a high-density PCB. Thats what avalon says: " communication protocol, reference board design provided in early May."
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i think i me going to use burnin or flyonwall
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Added new prices of BKKCoins / Klondike Project and added a column for the name of the projects so forum search can find this thread easier.
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Thats what avalon says: " communication protocol, reference board design provided in early May."
Well, considering it's now the 10th in my timezone, we're past 'early' and into 'mid' May...
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Thats what avalon says: " communication protocol, reference board design provided in early May."
Well, considering it's now the 10th in my timezone, we're past 'early' and into 'mid' May... But not the worst extend of a timeplan... there are others from other companies...
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In his thread he only said he contacted him. Is this the plan now official or only checking out?
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In his thread he only said he contacted him. Is this the plan now official or only checking out? Fair questions. From what I read on the announcement thread: >snip< 1. There is no definite physical location as yet. We are scouting for a location that has the lowest cost supply of reliable electricity and 24/7 security service. Right now it's looking like ASIC Hosting Service has the best option. This should lower electricity costs drastically. We are signing up with this ASIC Hosting Service. 2. Once a service agreement with the ASIC Hosting Service is ironed out, we will publish here the recurring costs. Some people I'm sure are waiting for this recurring cost to be nailed down. >snip< Bullet #1 starts uncertain, ends strongly with them signing up with ASIC Hosting Service. Looks like they are detailing the service contract. Don't want to clutter the thread, just to keep it current.
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In his thread he only said he contacted him. Is this the plan now official or only checking out? Fair questions. From what I read on the announcement thread: >snip< 1. There is no definite physical location as yet. We are scouting for a location that has the lowest cost supply of reliable electricity and 24/7 security service. Right now it's looking like ASIC Hosting Service has the best option. This should lower electricity costs drastically. We are signing up with this ASIC Hosting Service. 2. Once a service agreement with the ASIC Hosting Service is ironed out, we will publish here the recurring costs. Some people I'm sure are waiting for this recurring cost to be nailed down. >snip< Bullet #1 starts uncertain, ends strongly with them signing up with ASIC Hosting Service. Looks like they are detailing the service contract. Don't want to clutter the thread, just to keep it current. Ok... in that case i will add it once the plans are more serious. Contracts done and so on. I guess its anyway much time since the chips arrive and the following plans can become reality...
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I don't know who really flyonwall's is? he join on March 2013 and only has 83 post? So be careful with your chips
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I don't know who really flyonwall's is? he join on March 2013 and only has 83 post? So be careful with your chips Like i stated on the bottom of the list... one should be careful and check out if one will trust a developer to send him chips to. Though there are developers that dont take chips but send a diy-kit out. So the chips arent in danger anyway. If sending out chips do everything to prove the developer is real and find out who he is, if he can do what he claims and so on. For example... a member in my asic-chip-groupbuy will visit burnin in some days to check out his place and getting a feeling about him.
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I added some of burnins offers for barebones and empty pcbs.
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*Stumptown. ('Tis a nickname for Portland, my hometown.)
And thanks for aggregating all this information! :-)
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*Stumptown. ('Tis a nickname for Portland, my hometown.)
And thanks for aggregating all this information! :-)
Ah... ok... its corrected...
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Took some assemblers in the list that dont develop a miner but create miner from other devs blueprints. And i changed the table for better overview.
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I saw this offer but the list isnt for fully ready miners that include the asic already. Only as a table to show where to assemble the asics that can be bought from avalon. Thats why asicminer erupter blades, Avalon Miner and so on arent included too. But i will make this a bit more clear in first post...
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I added newer prices for stumptown miner. I chose the 2 day turnaround plan, because of best performance between price and time and a middle value between the biggest and second biggest quantity. Then adding the handlingfee. Note, the prices are temporary only.
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Hi SebastionJu, I've added a new topic for a modular miner I'm designing with some work colleagues. We're planning on building this for ourselves, but releasing the design as open source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204699Project Caterpillar - 3RU modular miner. Regards Daemondazz
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Hi SebastionJu, I've added a new topic for a modular miner I'm designing with some work colleagues. We're planning on building this for ourselves, but releasing the design as open source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204699Project Caterpillar - 3RU modular miner. Regards Daemondazz Thanks for the info. I will add it once i checked out the info.
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Added project caterpillar and 2 offers for klondikes design, because one dont have to buy something from klondike. One can build a own miner with the open source klondike design only too. I didnt add burnin with open source designs because the design wont be open source from the start. So planning to build it will be hard before the chips arrive.
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Awesome reference. Hopefully prices for the North Yorkshire guys pop up soon.
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Sebastian.
You can add my effort in Indonesia although we will not have products ready until September or October at the earliest we are looking forward to selling BKKcoins boards to Indonesians. We will be ordering between 2k and 5k in chips for our first run and will sell only when we have products on the shelf. Currently have 540 chips in Ragin's Group # 1 buy that will be used for a mining rig test prototype that will be enclosed in a 4U server case that has hot swapping K16s or K64s for a data center implementation just outside Jakarta if that goes as planned we will offer 4U case mounted K256 rigs ONLY in INDONESIA.
Klondike Indonesia
We are still working on getting prices for Indonesian locally produced boards or possibly using an agency to import Chinese fab PCBs. Chips will be bumped / assembled with boards and heat sink attached with optional PSU in and for Indonesia ONLY. We will be supplying the chips. We will not take pre-orders. We will sell only when we have stock on the shelf. We are not making boards / selling miners for anyone outside of Indonesia. We are looking at September to October for product to be on the shelves. If there is a second generation of Avalon ASIC chips we will then consider opening up sales beyond Indonesia.
K1 - Rp. ? (Pricing June 1st) K16 - Rp. ? (Pricing June 1st) K64 - Rp. ? (Pricing June 1st) K256 - Rp ? (Pricing June 1st)
I will update here with numbers as they become available. I have posted a notice about this in Indonesian a few weeks ago on the Indonesian language sub forum.
* Edit for OP: No, we won't accept chips from those who want us to build their boards for them and assemble. Pure selling of a finished product ready to mine is our plan currently. If Avalon sells version 2 ASIC chips we will likely open up to internationals who want us to assemble their boards and chips and buy finished Bonanza mining rigs.
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Sebastian.
You can add my effort in Indonesia although we will not have products ready until September or October at the earliest we are looking forward to selling BKKcoins boards to Indonesians. We will be ordering 5k in chips for our first run and will sell only when we have products on the shelf. Currently have 540 chips in Ragin's Group # 1 buy that will be used for a mining rig test prototype that will be enclosed in a 4U server case that has hot swapping K16s or K64s for a data center implementation just outside Jakarta if that goes as planned we will offer 4U case mounted K256 rigs ONLY in INDONESIA.
Klondike Indonesia
We are still working on getting prices for Indonesian locally produced boards or possibly using an agency to import Chinese fab PCBs. Chips will be bumped / assembled with boards and heat sink attached with optional PSU in and for Indonesia ONLY. We will be supplying the chips. We will not take pre-orders. We will sell only when we have stock on the shelf. We are not making boards / selling miners for anyone outside of Indonesia. We are looking at September to October for product to be on the shelves. If there is a second generation of Avalon ASIC chips we will then consider opening up sales beyond Indonesia.
K1 - Rp. ? (Pricing June 1st) K16 - Rp. ? (Pricing June 1st) K64 - Rp. ? (Pricing June 1st) K256 - Rp ? (Pricing June 1st)
I will update here with numbers as they become available. I have posted a notice about this in the Indonesian a few weeks ago on the Indonesian language sub forum.
Ok, i think i will add developers of complete miners in a new list beneath the other list. The original list is for people that bought, or want to buy, the avalon chips, and want to know what to do with them. Since know there are you and terrahash that want to sell complete units too, burnin maybe, but he hasnt given prices yet. Let me know when you offer to assemble chips sent to you into miner to...
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
Can you add for me it is pay and collect in person. We do not provide shipping. People will have to come and get their units at our shop.
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
Can you add for me it is pay and collect in person. We do not provide shipping. People will have to come and get their units at our shop. Ok, ill add, important info. But i guess you will get many requests for shipping.
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
Can you add for me it is pay and collect in person. We do not provide shipping. People will have to come and get their units at our shop. You mean come to indonesia and collect them? Where in Indonesia, they are so many islands around? are you in Jakarta?
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
Can you add for me it is pay and collect in person. We do not provide shipping. People will have to come and get their units at our shop. Ok, ill add, important info. But i guess you will get many requests for shipping. I don't care... j/k. You want a box you come and get a box. I am a full time teacher / principal so we will have to make it a bit harder for the customers. Also that will hopefully lower the demand some. I will only be able to pump 25 - 100 K16 boards out initially so the line around the block won't happen. Also Indonesia is really not the biggest hot bed for Bitcoin yet so I bet these rigs won't fly off the shelf here. You will see a website later Dan and yes anyone is welcome to come to the shop and buy one. I bet though people will not wait till September or October for me to be selling units right. That is why I suspect this will only be Indonesians coming to get one. No deposits, no credit cards no pre-orders. Rupiah, Bitcoin or Freicoin on the barrel head! Whatever is not sold will put to good use mining for me.
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
Can you add for me it is pay and collect in person. We do not provide shipping. People will have to come and get their units at our shop. Ok, ill add, important info. But i guess you will get many requests for shipping. I don't care... j/k. You want a box you come and get a box. I am a full time teacher / principal so we will have to make it a bit harder for the customers. Also that will hopefully lower the demand some. I will only be able to pump 50 - 100 boards out initially so the line around the block won't happen. Also Indonesia is really not the biggest hot bed for Bitcoin yet so I bet these rigs won't fly off the shelf here. You will see a website later Dan and yes anyone is welcome to come to the shop and buy one. I bet though people will not wait till September or October for me to be selling units right. That is why I suspect this will only be Indonesians coming to get one. No deposits, no credit cards no pre-orders. Rupiah, Bitcoin or Freicoin on the barrel head! Whatever is not sold will put to good use mining for me. If I was still around in SEA, I'd probably come by. Flights are cheap for SEA dwellers...
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I now added another table of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Producer that doesnt accept your chips. They will sell the mine completely with the chips. This list is under the first list. If you want to turn your bought chips into a miner the first table is your choice.
Can you add for me it is pay and collect in person. We do not provide shipping. People will have to come and get their units at our shop. Ok, ill add, important info. But i guess you will get many requests for shipping. I don't care... j/k. You want a box you come and get a box. I am a full time teacher / principal so we will have to make it a bit harder for the customers. Also that will hopefully lower the demand some. I will only be able to pump 50 - 100 boards out initially so the line around the block won't happen. Also Indonesia is really not the biggest hot bed for Bitcoin yet so I bet these rigs won't fly off the shelf here. You will see a website later Dan and yes anyone is welcome to come to the shop and buy one. I bet though people will not wait till September or October for me to be selling units right. That is why I suspect this will only be Indonesians coming to get one. No deposits, no credit cards no pre-orders. Rupiah, Bitcoin or Freicoin on the barrel head! Whatever is not sold will put to good use mining for me. If I was still around in SEA, I'd probably come by. Flights are cheap for SEA dwellers... You bet they are quite a few low costs airlines in this regions, airasia, malindo, tigerairways, and some others.. as cheap as a bus ticket if you book early..
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Ok, ill check it out and will ask in your thread when i have questions...
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Hi, I'm starting PCB and assembly service in Europe, Bulgaria https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212031.0For now I have full pricing based on Klondike K1 In a few days there will be full pricing for K16 also heat sink for K16 pricing and delivery is available. @ the same time we are working on own design 10 chip miner Please add us
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Hi, I'm starting PCB and assembly service in Europe, Bulgaria https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212031.0For now I have full pricing based on Klondike K1 In a few days there will be full pricing for K16 also heat sink for K16 pricing and delivery is available. @ the same time we are working on own design 10 chip miner Please add us Ok, ill check you out as soon as i has time...
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I checked your thread but i think you only offer complete miners with chips you provide too... for that you are already in the second list in first post. The second list is for miner devs and assemblers that dont take Asic-Chips from others in because they sell their own asic-chips. So am i right or do you have a product for the first list too? And should i change some data in second list?
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I checked your thread but i think you only offer complete miners with chips you provide too... for that you are already in the second list in first post. The second list is for miner devs and assemblers that dont take Asic-Chips from others in because they sell their own asic-chips. So am i right or do you have a product for the first list too? And should i change some data in second list? Yes currently at least for the first run of boards 25 -100 will be my chips. Although I might change that depending on the first run and what I might need to lower costs I could take those in South East Asia that need a fabrication where they can't get that in say Singapore or elsewhere so I might consider those with chips purchased through DABS Asia chip buy. But I have not determined that yet. I am keen on seeing the supply chain work for my 540 chips first and I am planning on heading into Thailand and dropping off some chips to BKKCoins in person... maybe.
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I checked your thread but i think you only offer complete miners with chips you provide too... for that you are already in the second list in first post. The second list is for miner devs and assemblers that dont take Asic-Chips from others in because they sell their own asic-chips. So am i right or do you have a product for the first list too? And should i change some data in second list? Yes currently at least for the first run of boards 25 -100 will be my chips. Although I might change that depending on the first run and what I might need to lower costs I could take those in South East Asia that need a fabrication where they can't get that in say Singapore or elsewhere so I might consider those with chips purchased through DABS Asia chip buy. But I have not determined that yet. I am keen on seeing the supply chain work for my 540 chips first and I am planning on heading into Thailand and dropping off some chips to BKKCoins in person... maybe. Ok, you are in the second list in first post. When you have an offer for assembling chips that the customer is providing let me know... i will put your offer in first list then...
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Seb, your Philr13 hyperlink is not working, or has his post been removed from the forum for any particular reason? May need to look into that...
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Seb, your Philr13 hyperlink is not working, or has his post been removed from the forum for any particular reason? May need to look into that...
Thanks... looks like it changed for some reason... i put in the new thread-id...
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I am offering the following services.
Chip purchase.
Chip assembly.
Chip purchase and board assembly.
miner hosting.
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I am offering the following services.
Chip purchase.
Chip assembly.
Chip purchase and board assembly.
miner hosting.
You mean one doesnt have to buy the chips from you in order to get a miner assembled? If possible i could put you into the first list, otherwise i think youre qualified for second list because its somewhat a complete miner that you would sell then, including the chips.
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Hi SebastianJu It would be nice if you could include our Miner Assemble service in your list ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200067.0). We offer the following: k16 based design miner assembly 4 layers' PCB Electronic components Heat Sink Full assembly If the chips are bought using our group buy the full price for the above is 60EUR If the chips are sent from another group buy the price is then 65EUR Miner assembly is based in Barcelona, Spain. Thank you for the effort in maintaining such an informative list.
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We offer the following: k16 based design miner assembly 4 layers' PCB Electronic components Heat Sink Full assembly
If the chips are bought using our group buy the full price for the above is 60EUR
If the chips are sent from another group buy the price is then 65EUR
Miner assembly is based in Barcelona, Spain.
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I am offering the following services.
Chip purchase.
Chip assembly.
Chip purchase and board assembly.
miner hosting.
You mean one doesnt have to buy the chips from you in order to get a miner assembled? If possible i could put you into the first list, otherwise i think youre qualified for second list because its somewhat a complete miner that you would sell then, including the chips. That is correct. You may purchase assembly using chips from another source, in addition to complete miners including chips.
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If the chips are bought using our group buy the full price for the above is 60EUR
If the chips are sent from another group buy the price is then 65EUR
That pricing doesn't make much sense. Price from you, including chips is 60€, but price for assembly only is 65€, which you then need to spend another approx 130€ for the chips? You might want to make it clear that the 60€ is only for assembly, if that's the case? Edit: Bolded part of the quoted sentence that's a bit ambiguous.
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If the chips are bought using our group buy the full price for the above is 60EUR
If the chips are sent from another group buy the price is then 65EUR
That pricing doesn't make much sense. Price from you, including chips is 60€, but price for assembly only is 65€, which you then need to spend another approx 130€ for the chips? You might want to make it clear that the 60€ is only for assembly, if that's the case? Edit: Bolded part of the quoted sentence that's a bit ambiguous. Hi daemondazz Thank you very much for the clarification request. Yes, you are right, the 60EUR price does not include the chips' price. I thought it was clear when I put ' for the above' in my sentence. We offer the following: k16 based design miner assembly 4 layers' PCB Electronic components Heat Sink Full assembly
If the chips are bought using our group buy the full price for the above is 60EUR
The 'above' does not include Chips. Thanks a lot an sorry for the confusion.
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@steamboat... i added your offer in both lists because you offer normal assembly and complete miners of some kind. I didnt find the info if your miners or project has a special name or where you are located.
@bizwoo... i added your offer in both lists too. Im missing info on your location and if your project maybe has a special name or your miner.
@villex... i understand you correctly that you offer to assemble any blueprint a buyer wants? But the price doesnt include the parts needed. So the buyer has to deliver you all the parts and you assemble them. Does this include the PCB too? Then i dont know if i understood your price correctly. You charge for every 10 chips assembled. But first you say $40 for 10 chips then you say $75 in the calculation. Whats correct?
Let me know if any info is wrong or missing please.
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@bizwoo... i added your offer in both lists too. Im missing info on your location and if your project maybe has a special name or your miner.
Thank you SebastianJu Miners will be assembled in Barcelona, Spain. No special name for the project as per now. Will have to think about one though. Cheers
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@steamboat... i added your offer in both lists because you offer normal assembly and complete miners of some kind. I didnt find the info if your miners or project has a special name or where you are located.
@bizwoo... i added your offer in both lists too. Im missing info on your location and if your project maybe has a special name or your miner.
@villex... i understand you correctly that you offer to assemble any blueprint a buyer wants? But the price doesnt include the parts needed. So the buyer has to deliver you all the parts and you assemble them. Does this include the PCB too? Then i dont know if i understood your price correctly. You charge for every 10 chips assembled. But first you say $40 for 10 chips then you say $75 in the calculation. Whats correct?
Let me know if any info is wrong or missing please.
Thank you. Please note the $95 only covers the pcb and assembly, without the additional parts needed. We are located in Florida, USA. Branding will be available soon.
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@steamboat... i added your offer in both lists because you offer normal assembly and complete miners of some kind. I didnt find the info if your miners or project has a special name or where you are located.
@bizwoo... i added your offer in both lists too. Im missing info on your location and if your project maybe has a special name or your miner.
@villex... i understand you correctly that you offer to assemble any blueprint a buyer wants? But the price doesnt include the parts needed. So the buyer has to deliver you all the parts and you assemble them. Does this include the PCB too? Then i dont know if i understood your price correctly. You charge for every 10 chips assembled. But first you say $40 for 10 chips then you say $75 in the calculation. Whats correct?
Let me know if any info is wrong or missing please.
Thank you. Please note the $95 only covers the pcb and assembly, without the additional parts needed. We are located in Florida, USA. Branding will be available soon. Does this mean all other parts besides the pcb has to be brought from customer or does it mean that the cost for the parts are put on top? If the last whats these costs?
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@steamboat... i added your offer in both lists because you offer normal assembly and complete miners of some kind. I didnt find the info if your miners or project has a special name or where you are located.
@bizwoo... i added your offer in both lists too. Im missing info on your location and if your project maybe has a special name or your miner.
@villex... i understand you correctly that you offer to assemble any blueprint a buyer wants? But the price doesnt include the parts needed. So the buyer has to deliver you all the parts and you assemble them. Does this include the PCB too? Then i dont know if i understood your price correctly. You charge for every 10 chips assembled. But first you say $40 for 10 chips then you say $75 in the calculation. Whats correct?
Let me know if any info is wrong or missing please.
Thank you. Please note the $95 only covers the pcb and assembly, without the additional parts needed. We are located in Florida, USA. Branding will be available soon. Does this mean all other parts besides the pcb has to be brought from customer or does it mean that the cost for the parts are put on top? If the last whats these costs? No. There will be additional costs for parts including heatsinks, standoffs, fans, usb cable etc which are required to produce a complete miner. Pricing for fully assembled miners will be available as soon as I have it.
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@villex... i understand you correctly that you offer to assemble any blueprint a buyer wants? But the price doesnt include the parts needed. So the buyer has to deliver you all the parts and you assemble them. Does this include the PCB too? Then i dont know if i understood your price correctly. You charge for every 10 chips assembled. But first you say $40 for 10 chips then you say $75 in the calculation. Whats correct?
Let me know if any info is wrong or missing please.
Thanks for noticing the error. Yes you got it correct, but the price is $40 for every 10 chips assembled. Fixed the error.
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This list surely grew a bit! :-) Good work tracking them down, Sebastian!
There are a lot of projects based on BKKCoins work. I would like to hear from the devs if they have anything in mind if/how to support BKKCoins for his work? Maybe "x % of the sales" or "xy BTC flat" or "z days burn-in test on his address" or the like?
BKKCoins is thinking about dropping all "DRM" and "forced fee in firmware", and releasing everything completely free, and hoping he'll get some voluntary support. Let's show how awesome this Bitcoin community really is, and help him out, for all the weeks, months of fulltime-work he invests!
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This list surely grew a bit! :-) Good work tracking them down, Sebastian!
There are a lot of projects based on BKKCoins work. I would like to hear from the devs if they have anything in mind if/how to support BKKCoins for his work? Maybe "x % of the sales" or "xy BTC flat" or "z days burn-in test on his address" or the like?
BKKCoins is thinking about dropping all "DRM" and "forced fee in firmware", and releasing everything completely free, and hoping he'll get some voluntary support. Let's show how awesome this Bitcoin community really is, and help him out, for all the weeks, months of fulltime-work he invests!
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I would like this too... i see that many assemblers already have a fee included thought as a fee for BKKCoins... i hope all are doing this... its a small fee for buyers only but a nice compensation for BKKCoins.
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This list surely grew a bit! :-) Good work tracking them down, Sebastian!
There are a lot of projects based on BKKCoins work. I would like to hear from the devs if they have anything in mind if/how to support BKKCoins for his work? Maybe "x % of the sales" or "xy BTC flat" or "z days burn-in test on his address" or the like?
BKKCoins is thinking about dropping all "DRM" and "forced fee in firmware", and releasing everything completely free, and hoping he'll get some voluntary support. Let's show how awesome this Bitcoin community really is, and help him out, for all the weeks, months of fulltime-work he invests!
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I would like this too... i see that many assemblers already have a fee included thought as a fee for BKKCoins... i hope all are doing this... its a small fee for buyers only but a nice compensation for BKKCoins. That's good to hear! Care to include that info into the list? Developers, state your position! This is a good opportunity for you to gain support! :-) Ente
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This list surely grew a bit! :-) Good work tracking them down, Sebastian!
There are a lot of projects based on BKKCoins work. I would like to hear from the devs if they have anything in mind if/how to support BKKCoins for his work? Maybe "x % of the sales" or "xy BTC flat" or "z days burn-in test on his address" or the like?
BKKCoins is thinking about dropping all "DRM" and "forced fee in firmware", and releasing everything completely free, and hoping he'll get some voluntary support. Let's show how awesome this Bitcoin community really is, and help him out, for all the weeks, months of fulltime-work he invests!
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I would like this too... i see that many assemblers already have a fee included thought as a fee for BKKCoins... i hope all are doing this... its a small fee for buyers only but a nice compensation for BKKCoins. That's good to hear! Care to include that info into the list? Developers, state your position! This is a good opportunity for you to gain support! :-) Ente Yes, sounds like a good suggestion... till now i only calculated it into the price but a new column for this is a good info too. Ill do this later...
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Nano won't be $2 fee per unit on my builds. More like 50 cents possibly but again I will have to check with BKKCoins on that to find out what is fair value.
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Nano won't be $2 fee per unit on my builds. More like 50 cents possibly but again I will have to check with BKKCoins on that to find out what is fair value.
I changed it to $0.5 for the moment. Let me know if you change the plan for this. I searched a bit and i only found that someone in forum ordered from them and they dont answer now anymore. I could add it but i wonder why they didnt open a thread here. I mean they most probably will read here in forum, otherwise they wouldnt know about the reference design. So im not sure if i should add it yet. What does others say? Should i add it and let the viewers be responsible for checking if they are legit?
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I could add it but i wonder why they didnt open a thread here. I mean they most probably will read here in forum, otherwise they wouldnt know about the reference design. So im not sure if i should add it yet. What does others say? Should i add it and let the viewers be responsible for checking if they are legit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215431.0
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I have updated prices on my thread :d
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I have updated prices on my thread :d
The new price in euro isnt including shipping and heatsink, right? I could add it but i wonder why they didnt open a thread here. I mean they most probably will read here in forum, otherwise they wouldnt know about the reference design. So im not sure if i should add it yet. What does others say? Should i add it and let the viewers be responsible for checking if they are legit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215431.0Thanks! Ill add them.
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I added t13hydra and bitmine.ch now. Please check if the data is correct.
I found that the chips included with the miner with bitmine.ch are down to a cost of 0.061BTC per chip only. Thats less then the buying cost. Im not sure if thats a miscalculation on their side.
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Added new column: "Complete miner Price per Chip" and added the values where possible. That means complete miner costs with heatsink.
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Looks good. Could you maybe provide me with the needed data for the tables so far they are available? Then i dont have to ask for the specific details when i dont find them.
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Looks good. Could you maybe provide me with the needed data for the tables so far they are available? Then i dont have to ask for the specific details when i dont find them. Thank you very much. Here's the table data... Forum User: danattacker Project Name: Davalon Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230525.0Miner for X ASIC's: 10 Needs your ASIC's sent to?: No Product Type: Open Source Miner Plans only Cost of Product: Free Complete Miner Price per Chip: N/A Licence Fee to developer?: Self developed Developer/Assembler Location: United States What happens with product?: Downloadable
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The new price in euro isnt including shipping and heatsink, right?
Its in GBP and no not inc shipping or heatsink atm
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The new price in euro isnt including shipping and heatsink, right?
Its in GBP and no not inc shipping or heatsink atm I'll link this into my CoinCanary sticky if that is alright
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I spend so much time in custom hardware, yet I never saw your list SebastianJu. How strange! When I first saw it I thought you had taken my idea, then I looked at the date.. and wondered if you had thought the same when I made mine!
I'll link to this on my table, I wasn't able to do some of the developers justice, like burnin. So many categories I just didn't have room in the list. Also you have some other types of data that I am not including.
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I spend so much time in custom hardware, yet I never saw your list SebastianJu. How strange! When I first saw it I thought you had taken my idea, then I looked at the date.. and wondered if you had thought the same when I made mine!
I'll link to this on my table, I wasn't able to do some of the developers justice, like burnin. So many categories I just didn't have room in the list. Also you have some other types of data that I am not including.
Thanks! And yes, i started pretty early because i found that an easy overview would be a nice thing. Now its a pretty big list. I guess in the next days i can add a new column "Miner proofed working?" or similar because burnin will get 20 chips tomorrow for testing... @all Added danattacker's blueprint...
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Price as it will be going on my website soon 60gbp + shipping or 94.08usd + shipping
That price includes vat/heatsink and all parts (except the avalons of course)
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Price as it will be going on my website soon 60gbp + shipping or 94.08usd + shipping
That price includes vat/heatsink and all parts (except the avalons of course)
I changed it.
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Hey Sebastian, could you please update the Caterpillar entry in the first table to add "(modified on Klondike16)"? Thanks! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204699
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@all Added danattacker's blueprint...
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June 17, 2013, 11:53:49 AM |
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Site is now online for deposits, This is now called Evilminers
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Hey all, My website, www.stumptownminers.com, is open for orders now. I'm focusing on fast turnaround and doing as much of the work locally as possible, so my prices *are* a little higher than most people's. Right now we're only about halfway to a full K16 batch and we're getting to the point where I need to either pull the trigger or start issuing refunds. If you're interested in getting your miner assembled in the Pacific Northwest, particularly if you want to pick it up in person here in Portland once it's done, I recommend you head over to the website and place an order ASAP. Thanks! Ryan
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Hey all, My website, www.stumptownminers.com, is open for orders now. I'm focusing on fast turnaround and doing as much of the work locally as possible, so my prices *are* a little higher than most people's. Right now we're only about halfway to a full K16 batch and we're getting to the point where I need to either pull the trigger or start issuing refunds. If you're interested in getting your miner assembled in the Pacific Northwest, particularly if you want to pick it up in person here in Portland once it's done, I recommend you head over to the website and place an order ASAP. Thanks! Ryan I would not pull the trigger until we see a working proto type. The design has not been debugged yet and you would be taking a large risk if for example the PCB needed some changes.
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I agree, my trigger pulling aint gonna be till after I see bkk's finalized....atm he aint evan got avalon chips on it last I checked
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I would not pull the trigger until we see a working proto type. The design has not been debugged yet and you would be taking a large risk if for example the PCB needed some changes.
True enough. But there are certain parts on the BOM that have a high probability of *still* being on the BOM after the prototype has been tested. These parts are starting to see shortages at all the online shops, and that's making me a little nervous.
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It looked like terrahash built a full K16. That makes me worry about their competence unless they built one with out the ASIC's to debug first.
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part of me hopes bkk has to redo the whole board for some reason....terrahash seem to have jumped the gun a bit
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part of me hopes bkk has to redo the whole board for some reason....terrahash seem to have jumped the gun a bit
And i wonder if such a board would work fine anyway... i would like to have the latest revision, not a beta. Im not sure if he did the best decision here.
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part of me hopes bkk has to redo the whole board for some reason....terrahash seem to have jumped the gun a bit
And i wonder if such a board would work fine anyway... i would like to have the latest revision, not a beta. Im not sure if he did the best decision here. BkkCoins says in github release notes that "One part is known to be missing here from the original Avalon design. That is the ferrite beads on the AVDD power line to each chip. This was missed by me when viewing the Avalon reference docs and the first version of the PCB does not have them. So we'll see if they are absolutely required, or just precautionary..." so in my opinion a second version is likely. Also with lacking documentation on the communication signals some minor changes might be necessary here as well( my opinion ). It's high risk to buy large batches of PCB boards at this time. We need to give BkkCoins some time to debug the design.
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part of me hopes bkk has to redo the whole board for some reason....terrahash seem to have jumped the gun a bit
And i wonder if such a board would work fine anyway... i would like to have the latest revision, not a beta. Im not sure if he did the best decision here. BkkCoins says in github release notes that "One part is known to be missing here from the original Avalon design. That is the ferrite beads on the AVDD power line to each chip. This was missed by me when viewing the Avalon reference docs and the first version of the PCB does not have them. So we'll see if they are absolutely required, or just precautionary..." so in my opinion a second version is likely. Also with lacking documentation on the communication signals some minor changes might be necessary here as well( my opinion ). It's high risk to buy large batches of PCB boards at this time. We need to give BkkCoins some time to debug the design. A risk terrahash took... i wonder how it works out. And i dont believe that it gives him much advantage because the chips didnt arrive yet anyway. Im not sure what he thought. But maybe he only ordered some sample boards.
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http://alphahpc.com/i found it somewhere and i dont see the link here are they allright ?
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A risk terrahash took... i wonder how it works out.
Found first error: Vcc power for PIC is not connected.
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Sebastian: What about this guys? http://www.asicgigahash.com/Klondike style, BTC payment... See you!!
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Their a reseller of me As far as I am aware, they have an order for 11k chips (1000 in batch 1 here and another 10k in their own batch around time of batch 2) They have pre-order placement for assembly with me, and I speak to them on the phone regularly.... This is not to say they are or are not a scam, Im just passing on the info I have.
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The offer was already there as philr13 is the owner. I only didnt mention the prices yet. I now updated it.
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Sab...
I might have a change in my Indonesian fabrication site and replace it with COOP site that incorporates our coop members selling all of their miners worldwide to anyone. I will keep you posted. Is there any update on TerraHash?
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TH is looking more and more like a scam atm.... I suspect the outlay for those early boards, that didnt work, has used up his capitol, and poss buyers.... I hope im proved wrong.....
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Their a reseller of me As far as I am aware, they have an order for 11k chips (1000 in batch 1 here and another 10k in their own batch around time of batch 2) They have pre-order placement for assembly with me, and I speak to them on the phone regularly.... This is not to say they are or are not a scam, Im just passing on the info I have. Evilscoop, How do you talk to the asicgigahash.com guys? I have tried via email and telephone multiple times, but no answer... Thank you!
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Phone and sms
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SebastianJu, please change the price per K16 for my service to $107.
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SebastianJu, please change the price per K16 for my service to $107.
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July 22, 2013, 07:15:46 PM |
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Added FaSan's offer...
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Bicknellski
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July 31, 2013, 12:59:44 PM |
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Sebju... Need to revise mine... note that it is not just me but Big Picture Mining Cooperative. All we are producing is K1s with chips. Ƀ0.47 at current MtGox rates. bigpicturemining.com
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July 31, 2013, 07:21:48 PM |
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Burnin's prices are not updated on OP. Here are the real prices from burnin's newsletter sent 22nd July.
BitBurner 10 Chip Complete: 98 eur BitBurner 20 Chip Complete: 105 eur BitBurner 10 Chip without cooler: 90 eur BitBurner 20 Chip without cooler: 96 eur Water cooler: 50eur Bare PCB: 25eur <<NOT recommended unless you have a very good PnP machine and a reflow oven (405 Components, mostly 0402 or less).
All prices are without VAT, when ordering from the EU 19% VAT is added. If you have an valid EuSt number you can also order tax-exempt from the EU.
Payment can be done through: Bitcoin, SEPA wire transfer and PayPal.
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July 31, 2013, 09:09:37 PM |
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Thanks for the heads p... its updated now... let me know when i did errors...
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evilscoop
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September 03, 2013, 09:55:44 AM |
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Please remove evilminers... Refunds have been issued and orders are no longer being taken...
This is due to a number of reasons, inc Roi/diff and big chip orders requesting refunds on chips and pulling out, leaving me with < the required number of boards to go to assembly..
Regards
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September 03, 2013, 04:53:41 PM |
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Please remove evilminers... Refunds have been issued and orders are no longer being taken...
This is due to a number of reasons, inc Roi/diff and big chip orders requesting refunds on chips and pulling out, leaving me with < the required number of boards to go to assembly..
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Sorry to hear. I removed it.
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flyonwall
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September 04, 2013, 06:28:59 PM |
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For those who are not cancelling, you have another option: condo ownership. Centerus will build Avalon clone systems for housing your chips, ten in each card ("condo unit"), up to 32 cards in every box. Your chips will be controlled from your own instance of cgminer running in the box. You can connect your condo unit to your mining pool account. The price for each condo unit has been drastically reduced to 0.9 BTC. More details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189976.0Place your order here: http://centerus.com/products-page/condo/condo-unit/
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daemondazz
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September 06, 2013, 01:20:30 AM |
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Please remove evilminers... Refunds have been issued and orders are no longer being taken...
This is due to a number of reasons, inc Roi/diff and big chip orders requesting refunds on chips and pulling out, leaving me with < the required number of boards to go to assembly..
Regards
Sorry to hear. I removed it. Sebastian, it would be a good idea to remove the references to the Caterpillar project too... Thanks.
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September 06, 2013, 07:49:22 PM |
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Done...
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October 25, 2013, 02:07:48 PM |
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This thread marks a landmark for humanity. It's not about mining, it's about the process how you're all working.
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