Bitcoin Forum
May 04, 2024, 12:11:15 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 [60] 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 ... 113 »
  Print  
Author Topic: DCORP Venture Capitalism  (Read 127541 times)
ostsee77
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 258



View Profile
June 29, 2017, 07:06:28 PM
 #1181

Who still wants  with Exodus




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QOWOD-HLn0

1714781475
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714781475

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714781475
Reply with quote  #2

1714781475
Report to moderator
1714781475
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714781475

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714781475
Reply with quote  #2

1714781475
Report to moderator
"You Asked For Change, We Gave You Coins" -- casascius
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
rube08
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 29, 2017, 07:34:01 PM
 #1182

What price do you expect in October, when trade will be active? Any opinions?

This is the math you should make before investing...
Get ready....


A- Size of the Crypto market

If we only take the TOP50 coins (see coinmarketcap), you have
-   $100 Billion Market cap for the top50
-   $4.7 Billion traded in the last 24h
-   the $4.7 B per day are equivalent to a $1.6 trillion per year (x350)

Ratio between MK and traded volumes are = $1,600 B / 100 B = x16.5 (or 4.7% of the K on a day) (Note: 0.047 x 350 = 16.5)

B- Let’s compare to the FOREX market now:

For info:  look at the standard stock market assets value (sum of MK) = $70 Trillions in 2016. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/CM.MKT.LCAP.CD
(you can see the dot.com bubble in 1999-2001 and the 2007-2008 financial crisis and the EuroZone 2010 crisis as well)

Now, what is the most comparable to our loved cryptos is the mighty FOREX market: trading of “monnaies”. (even if alts start to behave more and more as STOCKS... another debate)

Links:
   http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-fx-peaktrading-idUSKCN0VK1UD

   http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-much-currency-is-traded-every-day-2016-9

TL;DR: we speak about $5 Trillion daily, traded or exchanged.

C- What are Derivatives?

Read: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/derivative.asp
TL;DR: It’s basically a complex financial product, on which you can leverage your gains. You can trade futures, do swaps and build complex insurances systems to hedge your positions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_derivative

<<The problem with Derivatives, is that they are like Russian dolls >>
<< aaah, you mean narcissistic and plasticmade ?>>
<< Nope…they I mean can underly from another derivative fcuktard ! Like taking an insurance on an insurance. Or betting on the fact that someone will lose a bet…>>

See it as dreams into dreams… inception like… but with real money. It can go haywire really fast if things take the sh1t route…
(Watch “The Big Short” to understand how these derivatives fcuked the market in 2010…)

Now, let’s look ONLY at the foreign exchange derivatives, to be able to compare to cryptos (I know we can argue on that, but please…I will ask you to politely stfu).

We will stick to only Interest rate based derivatives, hence the ones that take into account the currencies evolutions: “OTC single currency interest rate derivatives” -> http://www.bis.org/publ/rpfx16.htm

TL;DR: We have $5 Trillion per day traded (we know already that), and $2.7 Trillion of derivatives.
That’s the market and that is the ratio to keep in mind:  For each currency traded, you have 0.5 traded as a derivative as well.

<< man… this is gonna explode one day... insane...>>

D- Back to cryptos

Remark: One may argue that, cryptos being more volatile, you’ll have a higher tendency to use derivatives. Other can say that the products are complex and my discourage the average crypto-enthusuast… I believe that, because the crypto market is not professional (read this forum and you’ll see…),  we would have 10x less: 1 / 20 ratio then.

As we have $4.7 billion traded per day, let’s happily imagine that we may/might/potentially/maybe/probably have $240 million of derivatives.

We were uusing the forex based ratio, divided by 10.
If we consider the Alt-coins more like stock options, this value can skyrocket… And if we consider that the alts market is increasing, it is safe (lol) to imagine a $400 million derivative market here.

E- Conclusion: What is the market for DCORP?

Total supply of DRP is 6/6 Million tokens so far. They are not clear about how many will be issued, it will depend on the sharholders (DOA) Let’s take a 10M figure in the mid-term.

Ultimately, we have a $400M and 10M tokens: one token has a potential of $40.
That is if DCORP is alone on the market, which I doubt... probably we should imagine that they get 1/3 of this market, as early entrants. Exchanges could be the big bad wolf and steal the show by integrating Derivatives in their systems natively (or rely on DCORP solutions ?).
That is $15 per DRP token.

Reminder:  ICO terms are not at 400 DRP per ETH, which values to token at $0.8 per token.

at $15 You have a x20 potential here.

E- Think for yourself now...

Based on this, you can make you own opinion

1- be optimistic and imagine that derivatives will flow the cryptos market (not sure that would be a good thing, but this market is almost made for derivatives).
That would mean a DRP at $100 maybe? (let me laugh... or cry)

2- Or you can be pessimistic, and go the other way, with a DRP around $7 to $10 (still a good profit vs. the ICO).

3- Imagine that once on exchanges, nobody understands derivatives or markets, and you can imagine selling your DRP tokens for a x100 to stupid traders on the exchanges (my plan)


Good luck...

Disclaimer I put a few ETH in DCORP...










You're not taking into account 100% of this economy will be controlled by investors unlike other coins that are mined and given away. The only other coin that comes close is stratis. It reached $11 with a 100million coin supply (almost), they allowed mining for a month or so and gave away coins as bounties. DCORP has a much smaller supply (a tenth of it maybe), no miners, no free coins and investors have an incentive to hold (dividends?). $15 would be very cheap on an exchange i feel. $50-$75 would probably be the low here.....




I would say in 10 to 15 years, DCORP coin will hit $1000+ dollars per coin if it pays out dividends yearly.  When it hits the exchange in October, I would say after the first day of trading its at $5+.
lda1000
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 581
Merit: 253


View Profile
June 29, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
 #1183

This project looks like a disaster waiting to happen.  Less competent than DAO guys, just making stuff up.  Someone should seriously look into their smart contract to see if it's safe.

Thanks for the feedback, but can you come with some facts, our code is subjected to code reviews, besides that our community is free to inspect and discuss the code. DCORP is in fact a DAO, but we've taken measures to prevent abuse as was used to drain the DAO from it's funds.

Interesting, so did you fork DAO's source code?
If yes, how much of the code is yours?


KryptoKash
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 511
Merit: 275


Bitcoin Interest.


View Profile
June 29, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
 #1184

Less then 12 hours remain https://www.dcorp.it/crowdsale    Wink

...
Caulon
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 110
Merit: 14


View Profile
June 29, 2017, 11:36:17 PM
 #1185

Is Blockchain Disrupting The Way Startups Raise Funds?

Forbes.com has written about Dcorp! They seemed also very interested in the project.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nikolaikuznetsov/2017/06/28/is-blockchain-disrupting-the-way-startups-raise-funds/#5c859095123f

Good to be on Forbes but that article did not mention derivatives or options or try to describe DCORP they just mentioned it....wish they did a better job.

gribble
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 552



View Profile
June 30, 2017, 12:25:53 AM
 #1186

9 Hours left to purchase your last minute DRP! over 15,000 ETH and 4.5 MILLION Raised! https://t.co/wohNA6nHNT
That is last couples hours chance to getting big profit and all of us can taking profit on october
 DRP can be traded on exchangers, so right now or never to takes this big chance.
duyduc256
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 250



View Profile
June 30, 2017, 12:29:42 AM
 #1187

9 Hours left to purchase your last minute DRP! over 15,000 ETH and 4.5 MILLION Raised! https://t.co/wohNA6nHNT
That is last couples hours chance to getting big profit and all of us can taking profit on october
 DRP can be traded on exchangers, so right now or never to takes this big chance.
Thanks for your information . I will buy it now because this is my good chance
Caulon
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 110
Merit: 14


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 03:18:19 AM
 #1188

Good to see the developers attending the Singapore conference with DCORP shirts on.....naysayers you can leave now Smiley this DCORP is legit real active team....https://www.facebook.com/1929877313957912/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1957032174575759

They are not like those other scam icos asking for hundred million dollars..this team only asks for $9.5 million euros and are only selling limited shares they are looking out for us..






gribble
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 552



View Profile
June 30, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
 #1189

9 Hours left to purchase your last minute DRP! over 15,000 ETH and 4.5 MILLION Raised! https://t.co/wohNA6nHNT
That is last couples hours chance to getting big profit and all of us can taking profit on october
 DRP can be traded on exchangers, so right now or never to takes this big chance.
Thanks for your information . I will buy it now because this is my good chance
You are welcome, make sure you have made calculating on management of investment money management,
risk management, taking profit and everything related with your investing due to only your self
that know about instrument of investment that makes your whealty be increasing. Cheesy
Finalshot23
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 46
Merit: 0


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 04:54:24 AM
 #1190

9 Hours left to purchase your last minute DRP! over 15,000 ETH and 4.5 MILLION Raised! https:/[Suspicious link removed]/wohNA6nHNT
That is last couples hours chance to getting big profit and all of us can taking profit on october
 DRP can be traded on exchangers, so right now or never to takes this big chance.
Thanks for your information . I will buy it now because this is my good chance
You are welcome, make sure you have made calculating on management of investment money management,
risk management, taking profit and everything related with your investing due to only your self
that know about instrument of investment that makes your whealty be increasing. Cheesy

What?
SS2006
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 285
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 06:22:12 AM
 #1191

looking to invest last minute. is using Jaxx OK? (its where i have my ehtereum)
images
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 340
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 06:43:49 AM
 #1192

only 3 hours left ico will ended i will invest at last minutes
and i am sure at last minutes whales investors will come with big funds
lda1000
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 581
Merit: 253


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
 #1193

This project looks like a disaster waiting to happen.  Less competent than DAO guys, just making stuff up.  Someone should seriously look into their smart contract to see if it's safe.

Thanks for the feedback, but can you come with some facts, our code is subjected to code reviews, besides that our community is free to inspect and discuss the code. DCORP is in fact a DAO, but we've taken measures to prevent abuse as was used to drain the DAO from it's funds.

Interesting, so did you fork DAO's source code?
If yes, how much of the code is yours?



Bump

Rrrav
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 30
Merit: 0


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 10:44:34 AM
 #1194

Just want to congratulate everyone who managed to invest into the DCORP crowdsale, good luck to us all  Smiley
rube08
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 11:14:38 AM
 #1195


HanscoLeek,

Just curious, do you intend to update the final figures with the crowdsale results in them?
lwayvo
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 26
Merit: 0


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
 #1196

congratulations people! see you all in October  Grin
Caulon
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 110
Merit: 14


View Profile
June 30, 2017, 10:11:41 PM
 #1197

Good job DCORP! to be a self built company with very little help getting the word out you guys did a great job marketing this and getting investments..Thanks for not asking for a hundreds million dollars as well. Thank you Frank, Hansco and the rest of the team. This is the only ico I invested in because it chose me.

DCORPglobal
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 15
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 01, 2017, 12:44:46 AM
 #1198

Good job DCORP! to be a self built company with very little help getting the word out you guys did a great job marketing this and getting investments..Thanks for not asking for a hundreds million dollars as well. Thank you Frank, Hansco and the rest of the team. This is the only ico I invested in because it chose me.

DCORP couldn't have done it without all of our investors, so we appreciate your support! We are going to be very busy in the coming weeks assuring everything is in perfect shape. Frank and Hansco both work very hard and this would not be possible without them!

Feel free to let us know if there is anything you need here, and we always will do our best to get back promptly!

Thanks,

Mike@dcorp.it
the_hodler
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 266
Merit: 101


View Profile WWW
July 01, 2017, 04:12:38 AM
 #1199

This project looks like a disaster waiting to happen.  Less competent than DAO guys, just making stuff up.  Someone should seriously look into their smart contract to see if it's safe.

Thanks for the feedback, but can you come with some facts, our code is subjected to code reviews, besides that our community is free to inspect and discuss the code. DCORP is in fact a DAO, but we've taken measures to prevent abuse as was used to drain the DAO from it's funds.

Interesting, so did you fork DAO's source code?
If yes, how much of the code is yours?



Bump

How about a response to this query?

Dubrovin
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 323
Merit: 100


View Profile
July 01, 2017, 08:34:36 AM
 #1200


Hello! And when will it appear on the exchange?
Pages: « 1 ... 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 [60] 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 ... 113 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!