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May 26, 2017, 01:57:23 PM
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But... he is for example friends with that WhalePanda guy on Twitter, who is a big altcoin trader. Fluffy even gave him the scoop so he would know what happened. You can not simply claim you hate how people do altcoin trading for profits, and at the same time befriend seasoned traders and giving them a heads up so they can profit from this stunt. That makes him a hypocrite, not a hero for this.

Here is WhalePanda Twitter before the announcement. I believe this was responsible for the pump


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May 26, 2017, 02:08:23 PM
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Very bad and very irresponsible however they want to try and spin it now. You can not prove they did not make huge financial gain by such abuse of power so assume that they did.

I think it was a negative and damaging move for them in terms of trust.

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May 26, 2017, 02:19:21 PM
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whether he shorted after it or not, i think its still not right to release such note to the public knowing that all these people who are waiting for anything positive will dive into it. one announcement from dash team and we'd all cram together to buy dash to simply profit. now he is aware this would happen.
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May 26, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
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Maybe they are just doing this to shake off the weak hands.. but it might pump with a vengeance  
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May 26, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
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The guy is named fluffypony, what would you expect. All privacy focused crypto money are lead by people who have things to hide.
Fluffypony admitted it himself, can't trust this kind of people.


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May 26, 2017, 03:42:38 PM
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After this stunt, i lost all my respect towards Monero. They were saying it is not pump and dump coin but they did exactly what pump&dump group would did.
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May 26, 2017, 11:12:06 PM
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After this stunt, i lost all my respect towards Monero. They were saying it is not pump and dump coin but they did exactly what pump&dump group would did.
Ooh! It's true that, if it's true then I'll leave the Monero coin and I will not be willing to use Monero Coin again.
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May 27, 2017, 03:49:47 AM
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I've always wanted to believe in a good anonymous coin (I liked the "Zero Coin" concept originally) but it seems like they always screw it up somehow. Sad
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May 27, 2017, 12:33:00 PM
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It seems Fluffpony have so much influence on Cryptocpace that he crashed it.  After his statement Crypto marketcap went from 90b to 60b.

On  guy says dont trust what  guys says on Twitter and all goes KABOOM.
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May 27, 2017, 01:16:15 PM
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LOL fluffypony

Don't suppose i mentioned him before huh ?

What did he say guys "safe as houses" ?
https://sputniknews.com/science/201608291044728112-monero-cryptocurrency-transactions/

Unless of course you gambled your house buying Monero shitcoins.
And i hope you didn't gamble it on his previously hacked official Monero Gambling site.

It would be interesting to know if this was a custom API or a public one, meaning that maybe other sites are affected and their owners could use this news to protect their sites too.
Of course patching your own is top priority.


Custom API, so I don't think this affects anyone else. We've disabled betting in the meantime whilst we sort this out, but I really think the lesson to other operators is not to be overconfident in your code or in your setup. Everything can and will be compromised, so assume it's going to happen and put safeguards in place to handle that eventual scenario.

Oh and who else did i warn you about ?
rpietila / risto ? (or what ever name he decides to jump to next today)
Hmm..
Don't suppose there is a scam topic on him where the old guard Monero shills called him a scammer ?

You guys never listen.  Cheesy

Or..
As i can see scrolling up.. you are all a bunch of chattering NOOB accounts.  Roll Eyes

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May 27, 2017, 01:56:41 PM
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whether he shorted after it or not, i think its still not right to release such note to the public knowing that all these people who are waiting for anything positive will dive into it. one announcement from dash team and we'd all cram together to buy dash to simply profit. now he is aware this would happen.

With regards to Dash announcements, many of them can be learned beforehand by studying the Dash budget proposals .. see what proposals passes and what effect that could have.

link : https://www.dashcentral.org/budget

Personally i like the "Dash branding on Race and Acrobatic airplanes" budget proposal and the move into the legal cannabis industry with the "Alt36 + Dash Payment Platform" budget proposal.


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May 27, 2017, 02:07:39 PM
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whether he shorted after it or not, i think its still not right to release such note to the public knowing that all these people who are waiting for anything positive will dive into it. one announcement from dash team and we'd all cram together to buy dash to simply profit. now he is aware this would happen.

With regards to Dash announcements, many of them can be learned beforehand by studying the Dash budget proposals .. see what proposals passes and what effect that could have.

link : https://www.dashcentral.org/budget

Personally i like the "Dash branding on Race and Acrobatic airplanes" budget proposal and the move into the legal cannabis industry with the "Alt36 + Dash Payment Platform" budget proposal.



I always liked Dash's original announcement to fail-launch and then the super sneaky re-launch.

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May 29, 2017, 05:00:06 AM
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whether he shorted after it or not, i think its still not right to release such note to the public knowing that all these people who are waiting for anything positive will dive into it. one announcement from dash team and we'd all cram together to buy dash to simply profit. now he is aware this would happen.

With regards to Dash announcements, many of them can be learned beforehand by studying the Dash budget proposals .. see what proposals passes and what effect that could have.

link : https://www.dashcentral.org/budget

Personally i like the "Dash branding on Race and Acrobatic airplanes" budget proposal and the move into the legal cannabis industry with the "Alt36 + Dash Payment Platform" budget proposal.



I always liked Dash's original announcement to fail-launch and then the super sneaky re-launch.

That was my favorite too, being lied to on first launch ( I mean second relaunch) and told their would be another launch next day so shut off your miners and then taking a bribe from the pool that never shut down then changing the mining rate to make the insta mine worth so much more was true evil genius. Never releasing a working Win miner until afterwards was very impressive.

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May 29, 2017, 06:11:44 AM
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Forgetting Monero is allegedly a community take over coin?

Montero guys never learn.. Want to get into Dash being evil?
Then it's only fair Monero gets it fucking balls deep.

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May 29, 2017, 02:53:48 PM
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Forgetting Monero is allegedly a community take over coin?

Montero guys never learn.. Want to get into Dash being evil?
Then it's only fair Monero gets it fucking balls deep.

No matter how much you want to bash monero it's the best tech and there was no scammy launch. Yes there were scumbags trying to fleece n00bs in the speculation area but if they listened to peops like me they would not have lost a cent and would be in profit. don't believe me? Go and check it's all public domain.

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May 29, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
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As it functions on a centralized platform manipulating the value of the token is quite easy and this is what happening with Monero. Hope most of the beginners who invested seeing the price pump might be feeling bad due to the immoral act of the developer team.

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May 29, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
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As it functions on a centralized platform manipulating the value of the token is quite easy and this is what happening with Monero. Hope most of the beginners who invested seeing the price pump might be feeling bad due to the immoral act of the developer team.

Please stop saying DEV team it was one Douchbag dev.

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May 29, 2017, 03:46:12 PM
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seems all altcoin are fake, bitcoin is the only coin to invest, i lost my btc in one of these fake coin last weekend. i will never invest in any fake coin anymore. Angry Angry Angry


I Need more prove to believe that, but dont lose hope in alt coins, there are such good alt coins there in the market, and the other of them is soon to be launched. dont stereotyping all the alt coins my friend, we just need to be careful on what we are investing for, in order for us not to lose all the money that we are investing, in trading not all the time we can win, we can lose sometimes too. win some lose some.
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May 29, 2017, 05:49:36 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2017, 03:47:01 AM by Spoetnik
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I'd say it's a scammy launch when..

- A fake community take over is initiated.
- A couple of people end up with all the coins on launch.

It's common knowledge Risto owns the coin.
He was the big whale sugar daddy since day 1.
To say he manipulated the coin from day 1 would be an epic understatement.
He has run his mouth about all kinds of things such as PAYING THE DEVS.

Way i see it is a lot of these coins end up the same way.
HOW ..is another matter.

To say there has been no bullshit with Monero is simply a lie.
In fact i would wager to say there has been far more bullshit than Dash.
Which is why it sort of pisses me off that every time the Monero idiots get caught yet again doing shit
they immediately go to pointing the finger at Dash.

And have i not pointed that out literally a hundred times ?

Guess what assholes ?
As time goes on i am just armed with more stories on Monero and their merry band of shill idiots.
How many do i have for Dash ?
I can't even think of any aside from that 1 single thing you shills harp about.
Which is circumstantial at best.

Plenty of coins have had changes and you all don't scream scam on them.
Unless of course it's an ANON coin that competes with YOUR bags.

You were warned.. wanna point the finger at Dash on yet another topic about Monero stupidity ?
Then it's fair game to open up a can of whoop-ass on the usual Morono suspects.

I find it hilarious too how your key people involved with it all along are eventually caught up in shit 1 after another and the rest of you simply say ohhhhh he has nothing to do with the coin..
Trying to down play their involvement.

Well guess what else ?
You are running out of shills to thrown under the bus  Cheesy

And yeah.. i god damn fucking dare you to call me out any single aspect of anything i said.
i will jam it down your fucking throat so fast you won't know what hit you !

Who wants to bet a certain "pony" and a guy who had to sell his previous unicorn way back were the original guys behind "Bytecoin" ?
You know the name of the coin before they changed it to Monero hahahha

Sorry but it is NOT believable at all what so ever that..
A dev showed up here and created a coin called Bytecoin not realizing there already was one with that name.
Combined with the fact that he immediately vanished forever never to show his face again even once.
And simultaneously we see a PONY emerge as the rebranded coin dev.
Hmmm smell bullshit ?

What does it matter ?
A trail of fraud that stretches back to before the coin was even fucking launched  Cheesy
Or i should say "relaunched"

Really want to get into it ?
Lets recap all the I'm sorry's..
Except for when they copy and paste what i say as the "truth" yet neg me for "lies" here.



Bottom Line:

I told you all years ago over & over and ever since the coin is doomed.
Because of the idiots that surround it.
I said they would fuck up what ever coin they were backing.. ANON or not.
They are shady bullshitting greedy little sleaze balls.

Guess who runs a Monero gambling site that was hacked ? And WHY !
Greed much dickheads ?
And hacked ?
Yup and what did that idiot pony say ?
What i was saying all along about Monero for years..
But it's true when he says it but lies when i do ? .....again.

THEN..
The same pony admits his faggy ass bullshit ANON shitcoin is in fact 80% secure..
Then shills says ohhhh we never claimed it was 100% secure  Roll Eyes

uhhhm yeah you did.. it says so on the "merch" Risto's employee Mr David Latapie modeled for pics with.
Does it say 80% secure on the hoody for sale ?

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And the kicker is I KNOW damn well these same douche bags have been up to far more..
But i need PROOF.. i can't accuse them of shit otherwise.
Like they do with Dash.
Where was the actual proof ..proving Dash was rigged on purpose ?
There isn't any.

That is like saying Satoshi rigged Bitcoin so he could flash mine them all on his own and be super rich.
Possible ? Sure.. but unproven.. like your Dash claims.

MONERO IDIOTS THAT LIVE IN "Safe as Houses" should not throw stones.
Grin

PS:
Want more ?
I have probably 50 Monero bookmarks and a bunch of stuff piled up i got from PM's in the last year or two.

Keep jiggling your little 80% secure dick-holsters..
Or maybe better yet just stick to your little forum game here that is and i quote..
"a powerful adoption" asset (that coincidentally made Risto a ton of money and is now being called a scam in the scam section by their very own long term shills)

Times are tough for ole Risto ..he may have to sell another Unicorn or two LOL

PPS:
Note the only douche bags on the forum running a "Forum game" ..for adoption is called a scam.
And it was the 2nd one King Risto launched here.. the first being something he launched to make money off of.. i know because he was bragging to me way back on Poloniex he made thousands on it.
So yeah duh.. of course he launched another one (Retro) for "adoption" reasons  Roll Eyes

But oh yeeeeeaaaah Monero is sooooooo fucking legit and ... Dash is not  Cheesy

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I'd say it's a scammy launch when..

- A fake community take over is initiated.
- A couple of people end up with all the coins on launch.

It's common knowledge Risto owns the coin.
He was the big whale sugar daddy since day 1.
To say he manipulated the coin from day 1 would be an epic understatement.

He has run his mouth about all kinds of things such as PAYING THE DEVS.

Way i see it is a lot of these coins end up the same way.
HOW ..is another matter.

To say there has been no bullshit with Monero is simply a lie.
In fact i would wager to say there has been far more bullshit than Dash.
Which is why it sort of pisses me off that every time the Monero idiots get caught yet again doing shit
they immediately go to pointing the finger at Dash.

And have i not pointed that out literally a hundred times ?

Guess what assholes ?
As time goes on i am just armed with more stories on Monero and their merry band of shill idiots.
How many do i have for Dash ?
I can't even think of any aside from that 1 single thing you shills harp about.
Which is circumstantial at best.

Plenty of coins have had changes and you all don't scream scam on them.
Unless of course it's an ANON coin that competes with YOUR bags.

You were warned.. wanna point the finger at Dash on yet another topic about Monero stupidity ?
Then it's fair game to open up a can of whoop-ass on the usual Morono suspects.

I find it hilarious too how your key people involved with it all along are eventually caught up in shit 1 after another and the rest of you simply say ohhhhh he has nothing to do with the coin..
Trying to down play their involvement.

Well guess what else ?
You are running out of shills to thrown under the bus  Cheesy

And yeah.. i god damn fucking dare you to call me out any single aspect of anything i said.
i will jam it down your fucking throat so fast you won't know what hit you !

Who wants to bet a certain "pony" and a guy who had to sell his previous unicorn way back were the original guys behind "Bytecoin" ?
You know the name of the coin before they changed it to Monero hahahha

Sorry but it is NOT believable at all what so ever that..
A dev showed up here and created a coin called Bytecoin not realizing there already was one with that name.
Combined with the fact that he immediately vanished forever never to show his face again even once.
And simultaneously we see a PONY emerge as the rebranded coin dev.
Hmmm smell bullshit ?

What does it matter ?
A trail of fraud that stretches back to before the coin was even fucking launched  Cheesy
Or i should say "relaunched"

Really want to get into it ?
Lets recap all the I'm sorry's..
Except for when they copy and paste what i say as the "truth" yet neg me for "lies" here.



Bottom Line:

I told you all years ago over & over and ever since the coin is doomed.
Because of the idiots that surround it.
I said they would fuck up what ever coin they were backing.. ANON or not.
They are shady bullshitting greedy little sleaze balls.

Which is why Guess who runs a Monero gambling site that was hacked ?
Greed much dickheads ?
And hacked ?
Yup and what did that idiot pony say ?
What i was saying all along about Monero for years..
But it's true when he says it but lies when i do ? .....again.

THEN..
The same pony admits his faggy ass bullshit ANON shitcoin is in fact 80% secure..
Then shills says ohhhh we never claimed it was 100% secure  Roll Eyes

uhhhm yeah you did.. it says so on the "merch" Risto's employee Mr David Latapie modeled for pics with.
Does it say 80% secure on the hoody for sale ?

You
Are
Full
Of
Shit
Monero'Tards
.

And the kicker is I KNOW damn well these same douche bags have been up to far more..
But i need PROOF.. i can't accuse them of shit otherwise.
Like they do with Dash.
Where was the actual proof ..proving Dash was rigged on purpose ?
There isn't any.

That is like saying Satoshi rigged Bitcoin so he could flash mine them all on his own and be super rich.
Possible ? Sure.. but unproven.. like your Dash claims.

MONERO IDIOTS THAT LIVE IN "Safe as Houses" should not throw stones.
Grin

PS:
Want more ?
I have probably 50 Monero bookmarks and a bunch of stuff piled up i got from PM's in the last year or two.

Keep jiggling your little 80% secure dick-holsters..
Or maybe better yet just stick to your little forum game here that is and i quote..
"a powerful adoption" asset (that coincidentally made Risto a ton of money and is now being called a scam in the scam section by their very own long term shills)

Times are tough for ole Risto ..he may have to sell another Unicorn or two LOL

PPS:
Note the only douche bags on the forum running a "Forum game" ..for adoption is called a scam.
And it was the 2nd one King Risto launched here.. the first being something he launched to make money off of.. i know because he was bragging to me way back on Poloniex he made thousands on it.
So yeah duh.. of course he launched another one (Retro) for "adoption" reasons  Roll Eyes

But oh yeeeeeaaaah Monero is sooooooo fucking legit and ... Dash is not  Cheesy


I stopped reading as everything I bolded is all outright lies. Why don't you try to supply some sources, you can't. Maybe your recolllection is bad or you have been saying these things so long you actually believe them.

The only issue at launch was a crippled miner which was the same with ALL cyptonote coins and inherited from the Scamcoin Bytecoin and was fixed and released. the amount that was easily mined was minimal compared to the amount in existence and was dumped as the miner author wrote about when he was found out.

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