ᴥᵜᴥ Oshi.io .ᴥᵜᴥ. A different online casino! .ᴥᵜᴥ. Choose your own bonus ᴥᵜᴥ

[OshiNick]

This is a scam right?

no.... Please read the definition of scammer / scam:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/scammer | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scammer | http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scammer

I don't see what's illegal in this whole episode. If there are genuinely illegal activities, then I'm sure bit.news could put forward a case and there would be ramifications. But I think it's highly unlikely.

Side note: one thing that does irritate me is misuse of language. Sorry to say. :-(

[bit.news]

@OshiNick he already posted scam-accusation thread against SoftSwiss take a look here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936168.msg19225499#msg19225499

I read through that post and made some comments. To summarise: this seems like a broken business relationship with bit.news crying foul and attempting to damage SoftSwiss's reputation. Of course, SoftSwiss can look after themselves but I felt bound to respond and at least put over a more balanced view of the situation.

Bit.news: why try to damage Oshi's own reputation when we've had nothing to do with your failed enterprise? It's horrible when businesses don't work, so as one entrepreneur to another I'm very sorry about your misfortunes. I hope you recover financially and are able to have another go at setting up a brand with another white label provider.

Terms of the contract were not met by softswiss. After we paid them money they began to pull the rubber.And also to give up other obligations that were sounded in the agreement.

You work under the license of scammers, there's nothing more to say

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936168

[OshiNick]

Terms of the contract were not met by softswiss. After we paid them money they began to pull the rubber.And also to give up other obligations that were sounded in the agreement.
You work under the license of scammers, there's nothing more to say

In fact, there is more to say. If you signed a contract and they failed to meet their obligations under the contract, you have legal recourse through the jurisdiction the contract was signed under.
If you're only recourse is to argue various points here, then you obviously have no confidence in your legal position.

I just think for people reading this thread, it's important to discriminate between somebody who is angry with no particular recourse i.e. a gambler who has lost a lot of money versus a businessman who understands enough about contractual law to right this issue i.e. you; bit.news. Sadly just repeating the accusation of SoftSwiss being a scammer doesn't actually change anything. It's also disappointing that you have not read and understood the correct definition of scammer.

Nevertheless, I hope you resolve your troubles with SoftSwiss

[OshiHugo]

@Crypt0Ninja and anyone else:
Please do not get confused by this person 'bit.news' and their claims. It obvious that it's someone whose business plans, containing cooperation with SoftSwiss, didn't go according to their expectation and now they are just trying to "revenge" on one of many casinos using SoftSwiss platform. As Nick mentioned - over 60% of bitcoin casinos are run on SoftSwiss platform.
You can see yourself that we are solid BTC and Fiat casino with one of the best ratings among all online casinos by just making a quick search on Google, reading through our old official thread, seeing reviews and ratings on AskGamblers, Lastestcasinobonus or any other site.

@bit.news
I believe that it has been said enough. Nick answered all your questions and your accusations. There is no reason to keep spamming in this thread. If you are not happy with Nick's answers then you have this thread of your own where you can post anything you want and possibly Nick will answer there. Anyway, I think that if you have any problem with SoftSwiss then you should probably contact them directly on not accuse casinos that have nothing to do with that. Thanks for respecting that.



Oh, and don't forget that the new round of our win-ration based tournaments has just started!
If you always wanted to take part in a casino tournament but didn't like the idea of the wagering based tournaments then now is your chance.
Find more HERE

[bit.news]

Terms of the contract were not met by softswiss. After we paid them money they began to pull the rubber.And also to give up other obligations that were sounded in the agreement.
You work under the license of scammers, there's nothing more to say

In fact, there is more to say. If you signed a contract and they failed to meet their obligations under the contract, you have legal recourse through the jurisdiction the contract was signed under.
If you're only recourse is to argue various points here, then you obviously have no confidence in your legal position.


I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

I just think for people reading this thread, it's important to discriminate between somebody who is angry with no particular recourse i.e. a gambler who has lost a lot of money versus a businessman who understands enough about contractual law to right this issue i.e. you; bit.news. Sadly just repeating the accusation of SoftSwiss being a scammer doesn't actually change anything. It's also disappointing that you have not read and understood the correct definition of scammer.

Nevertheless, I hope you resolve your troubles with SoftSwiss




I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

I'm also sure that I'm here talking with the managers of the company Direx N.V

You say the words of Ivan Monic, they thus justified themselves when they could not integrate poker
Do you want me to voice the words of a poker provider about the reason for not integrating poker?

Retrospective analysis

We did it and sent it to Softswiss. Since they are our partners, we can not directly transmit this information to you. In short, the communication problems were identified, which in principle are solved, further actions depend on your agreements with Softswiss.

[bit.news]

@Crypt0Ninja and anyone else:
Please do not get confused by this person 'bit.news' and their claims. It obvious that it's someone whose business plans, containing cooperation with SoftSwiss, didn't go according to their expectation and now they are just trying to "revenge" on one of many casinos using SoftSwiss platform. As Nick mentioned - over 60% of bitcoin casinos are run on SoftSwiss platform.
You can see yourself that we are solid BTC and Fiat casino with one of the best ratings among all online casinos by just making a quick search on Google, reading through our old official thread, seeing reviews and ratings on AskGamblers, Lastestcasinobonus or any other site.

@bit.news
I believe that it has been said enough. Nick answered all your questions and your accusations. There is no reason to keep spamming in this thread. If you are not happy with Nick's answers then you have this thread of your own where you can post anything you want and possibly Nick will answer there. Anyway, I think that if you have any problem with SoftSwiss then you should probably contact them directly on not accuse casinos that have nothing to do with that. Thanks for respecting that.



Oh, and don't forget that the new round of our win-ration based tournaments has just started!
If you always wanted to take part in a casino tournament but didn't like the idea of the wagering based tournaments then now is your chance.
Find more HERE

While you are working under the license of scammers Direx N.V, I would not trust this site

[OshiHugo]

Terms of the contract were not met by softswiss. After we paid them money they began to pull the rubber.And also to give up other obligations that were sounded in the agreement.
You work under the license of scammers, there's nothing more to say

In fact, there is more to say. If you signed a contract and they failed to meet their obligations under the contract, you have legal recourse through the jurisdiction the contract was signed under.
If you're only recourse is to argue various points here, then you obviously have no confidence in your legal position.


I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

I just think for people reading this thread, it's important to discriminate between somebody who is angry with no particular recourse i.e. a gambler who has lost a lot of money versus a businessman who understands enough about contractual law to right this issue i.e. you; bit.news. Sadly just repeating the accusation of SoftSwiss being a scammer doesn't actually change anything. It's also disappointing that you have not read and understood the correct definition of scammer.

Nevertheless, I hope you resolve your troubles with SoftSwiss




I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

I'm also sure that I'm here talking with the managers of the company Direx N.V

You say the words of Ivan Monic, they thus justified themselves when they could not integrate poker
Do you want me to voice the words of a poker provider about the reason for not integrating poker?

Retrospective analysis

We did it and sent it to Softswiss. Since they are our partners, we can not directly transmit this information to you. In short, the communication problems were identified, which in principle are solved, further actions depend on your agreements with Softswiss.

Nick is not an employee of SoftSwiss and I am sorry that you still think that. Anyway, even if you are right, then I still believe that's fully problem of Oshi's managment, which is really satisfied with the cooperation with SoftSwiss and isn't worried about any potential scam from SoftSwiss, NOT yours, nor the casino players. We are glad that you warned us and we hope you solve your problems successfully. But that's it - nothing more. All you do is just making other users confused and spamming.
So please do stop it and rather contact SoftSwiss or your lawyers if needed and let this thread alone. Otherwise I will have to ask the admins to do something about this becase it's just spam with no sense or meaning.


Recap for the others:
This user 'bit.news' probably tried to do some business with our platform provider SoftSwiss and for some reason, which is known only to this user and SoftSwiss, it didn't end up well. 'bit.news' is now trying to discredit Oshi.io and tens of other casinos built on SoftSwiss platform by meaningless accusations and wrong conclusions, even thought that neither Oshi.io or any other casino using SoftSwiss platform has nothing to do with SoftSwiss agreements, trades and any other business operation (platform provided excluded of course).
You can be sure that it's completely secure and safe to play on Oshi.

[bit.news]

Terms of the contract were not met by softswiss. After we paid them money they began to pull the rubber.And also to give up other obligations that were sounded in the agreement.
You work under the license of scammers, there's nothing more to say

In fact, there is more to say. If you signed a contract and they failed to meet their obligations under the contract, you have legal recourse through the jurisdiction the contract was signed under.
If you're only recourse is to argue various points here, then you obviously have no confidence in your legal position.


I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

I just think for people reading this thread, it's important to discriminate between somebody who is angry with no particular recourse i.e. a gambler who has lost a lot of money versus a businessman who understands enough about contractual law to right this issue i.e. you; bit.news. Sadly just repeating the accusation of SoftSwiss being a scammer doesn't actually change anything. It's also disappointing that you have not read and understood the correct definition of scammer.

Nevertheless, I hope you resolve your troubles with SoftSwiss




I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

I'm also sure that I'm here talking with the managers of the company Direx N.V

You say the words of Ivan Monic, they thus justified themselves when they could not integrate poker
Do you want me to voice the words of a poker provider about the reason for not integrating poker?

Retrospective analysis

We did it and sent it to Softswiss. Since they are our partners, we can not directly transmit this information to you. In short, the communication problems were identified, which in principle are solved, further actions depend on your agreements with Softswiss.

Nick is not an employee of SoftSwiss and I am sorry that you still think that. Anyway, even if you are right, then I still believe that's fully problem of Oshi's managment, which is really satisfied with the cooperation with SoftSwiss and isn't worried about any potential scam from SoftSwiss, NOT yours, nor the casino players. We are glad that you warned us and we hope you solve your problems successfully. But that's it - nothing more. All you do is just making other users confused and spamming.
So please do stop it and rather contact SoftSwiss or your lawyers if needed and let this thread alone. Otherwise I will have to ask the admins to do something about this becase it's just spam with no sense or meaning.


Recap for the others:
This user 'bit.news' probably tried to do some business with our platform provider SoftSwiss and for some reason, which is known only to this user and SoftSwiss, it didn't end up well. 'bit.news' is now trying to discredit Oshi.io and tens of other casinos built on SoftSwiss platform by meaningless accusations and wrong conclusions, even thought that neither Oshi.io or any other casino using SoftSwiss platform has nothing to do with SoftSwiss agreements, trades and any other business operation (platform provided excluded of course).
You can be sure that it's completely secure and safe to play on Oshi.

While you are working under the license of scammers Direx N.V, I would not trust this site. Make your own license and company, and then say that you do not depend on SCAMMERS DIREX N.V

I'm not trying to hurt the business of people who work with softswiss and direx n.v

But on behalf of these companies was fraud, and therefore I can not recommend sites that legally belong to scam companies

Here is the evidence


Here are some links in English

http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/i3/53655d77029939-95734520

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/76183-direx-n-v-casinos.html

http://aufaq.com/lichnyj-opyt-v-razrabotke-produktov-elektronnoj-kommercii/1179.html

http://aufaq.com/new/1181.html

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594723.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589538.msg6517909#msg6517909

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/casino-industry-discussion/78735-softswiss-direx.html#post829790


Here are some links in Russian

http://forumonlinecasino.com/topic/255-softswisscom-moshenniki/

http://forumonlinecasino.com/topic/243-ttrblog-casino-ttr-moshennik-pod-vidom-igroka/

http://forumonlinecasino.com/topic/255-softswisscom-moshenniki/

https://www.casinozforum.com/threads/ekaterina-i-konflikt-s-ttrcasino.276/

https://www.casinozforum.com/threads/skandal-na-ttrblog-ban-ekateriny-ili-otzyv-o-ttrcasino.261/

[OshiNick]

I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

This thread is getting rather monotonous, but just to say if you know your legal position then do something about it instead of spamming us and other SoftSwiss brands.

[OshiHugo]

Almost 3 days of our weekly tournament ate gone, but you can still join it!
And more than that! You can also win! Just as the tournament isn't based on wagering, it isn't based on the requirement to start during the first day either!
On the other hand - it helps - so don't forget that on Monday a new tournament starts!

[bit.news]

I am absolutely confident in my legal position! And so I want everyone to know that they are dealing with scammers Ivan Montic and His company

This thread is getting rather monotonous, but just to say if you know your legal position then do something about it instead of spamming us and other SoftSwiss brands.

While you are working under the license of scammers Direx N.V, I would not trust this site. Make your own license and company, and then say that you do not depend on SCAMMERS DIREX N.V

I'm not trying to hurt the business of people who work with softswiss and direx n.v

[OshiHugo]

What kind of prizes you would like to see in our roulette which is being prepared now?

[joksim299]

What kind of prizes you would like to see in our roulette which is being prepared now?

What do you mean?

[Bitinity]

What kind of prizes you would like to see in our roulette which is being prepared now?

What do you mean?

Perhaps he is preparing for a roulette competition at the moment and ask for ideas on what prizes we would like to see. But whatever the competition, then cash prize without rollover is always better than free spins with rollover.

[OshiHugo]

What kind of prizes you would like to see in our roulette which is being prepared now?

What do you mean?

Perhaps he is preparing for a roulette competition at the moment and ask for ideas on what prizes we would like to see. But whatever the competition, then cash prize without rollover is always better than free spins with rollover.

Yes, exactly! We are preparing a roulette/lottery game in which you will get tickets by depositing money. And we are just finishing it so I'd like to know what kind of prizes do you prefer. I'm almost certain that there will be a cash prize without rollover, just as it is in our weekly tournaments!

[MrFarel404]

How About Payout ?? Instant ??

[BTCevo]

What kind of prizes you would like to see in our roulette which is being prepared now?

What do you mean?

Perhaps he is preparing for a roulette competition at the moment and ask for ideas on what prizes we would like to see. But whatever the competition, then cash prize without rollover is always better than free spins with rollover.

Yes, exactly! We are preparing a roulette/lottery game in which you will get tickets by depositing money. And we are just finishing it so I'd like to know what kind of prizes do you prefer. I'm almost certain that there will be a cash prize without rollover, just as it is in our weekly tournaments!

Get some tickets by depositing any amount without doing something? If you ask some prizes may be it still depends on what are you going to do with the game. If you said wagered roulette may be you should give some huge prizes, but if it is number hunt, then you should give less prizes there. Prizes that you really need to give is only btc or may be things so people can choose whether they need the items or btc that equivalent

[OshiHugo]

How About Payout ?? Instant ??

If you mean Bitcoin payout then yes - it's nearly instant and it is one of the most liked feature about Oshi.io

[Bitinity]

What kind of prizes you would like to see in our roulette which is being prepared now?

What do you mean?

Perhaps he is preparing for a roulette competition at the moment and ask for ideas on what prizes we would like to see. But whatever the competition, then cash prize without rollover is always better than free spins with rollover.

Yes, exactly! We are preparing a roulette/lottery game in which you will get tickets by depositing money. And we are just finishing it so I'd like to know what kind of prizes do you prefer. I'm almost certain that there will be a cash prize without rollover, just as it is in our weekly tournaments!

Just by depositing money? No need to wager it and we will get ticket? So we are free to deposit any amounts then we can withdraw it after we get the tickets? If so, then it is not fun tournament at all. You should make fun tournament where players are playing your games.

[freebutcaged]

Even if you give 1000 spins and %5000 welcome bonus it wont make any difference mate, rigged games are rigged games without exception.

Every time I read a casino is saying they have more than 100-1000 games I'd just take the hint and walk away. since I'm not gonna deposit anything

If you were to give away some free amount and plus free spins for the test run, I might register if it's worth my time, no longer people fall for

These free spins and welcome bonuses, personally I got screwed too many times already by the likes of you.