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May 10, 2018, 10:26:52 AM
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Take a look what a criminal brain washer Nick Garner is!

According to your brain wash theories, informing the bitcointalk player community about issues with SoftSwiss is spamming?

And ask for your license is trolling and scamming, right?

That is correct. Game protect, you are a troll and you misguide and misinform for-profit to get people to register through your affiliate website
The fact is you're a spammer and the sooner your banned from these forums the better.

Readers: just look at Game protects profile of -64... And you'll see what I mean. If you think he should be banned as well, please report him to the moderators.
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May 10, 2018, 03:49:00 PM
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Take a look what a criminal brain washer Nick Garner is!

According to your brain wash theories, informing the bitcointalk player community about issues with SoftSwiss is spamming?

And ask for your license is trolling and scamming, right?

That is correct. Game protect, you are a troll and you misguide and misinform for-profit to get people to register through your affiliate website
The fact is you're a spammer and the sooner your banned from these forums the better.

Readers: just look at Game protects profile of -64... And you'll see what I mean. If you think he should be banned as well, please report him to the moderators.

Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website.

He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protect

If you genuinely think these forums would be better without him, there are two simple things you can do:

1. Report game protect to the moderator. If enough people do this, the moderators will pay attention and ban this person
2. Give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

How-to's

Report game protect to the moderator how to:
- click 'report to moderator' and give your reasons.

Trust review how to:
- go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
- pick a scam he has already attempted
- use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments

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May 15, 2018, 01:18:15 AM
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Here is a case where you boss stole 20 Bitcoins!

Casino Evolution - Stalling 20BTC withdrawal, no information and help from the support

Am curious about your excusation and brain wash theories?
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May 15, 2018, 07:13:27 AM
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BTCBTCBTC Oshi VIP BTCBTCBTC

We've improved Oshi VIP!

To become a VIP,  bet a certain amount of real play money each week.
Turnover requirements are here: https://oshi.io/vip

We've also simplified cashback requirements. Cashback will kick in if you have losses of more than 0.00130000 BTC, 10.00 EUR, 10.00 USD, 10.00 GBP, 15.00 AUD, 750.00 RUB, 100.00 SEK, 100.00 NOK, 10.00 CAD, and 75.00 CNY
Cashback ranges from 6% to 10% depending on what tier you're on.

We have also got a new VIP manager Max Klein... max.klein@oshi.io If you hang out on these forums and have played on Oshi in the past, or you're an existing customer, ping Max and see if he's got any bonuses for you!

Finally, there is also Oshi Black, where we nominate customers to top VIP status.

Nick
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May 15, 2018, 10:50:44 PM
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OshiNick is not able to answer my questions! Roll Eyes Maybe someone from the bitcointalk community can?

Number one the games, for instance Platinum Lightning is a Softswiss game (softswiss rebranded to bgaming).
Does SoftSwiss offer its gaming software only to casinos that uses their Bitcoin Casino or White Label or Turnkey Casino solution?

Or is it possible that SoftSwiss also sell its gaming software to foreign casinos without any solution from them?


Number two, I asked their live chat and they confirmed they’re softswiss (have screenshot)
This means that bitcoincasino.us operates under SoftSwiss's Bitcoin Casino solution?

If so, why does Ivan think bitcoin casinos do not need a license?
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May 18, 2018, 05:47:54 PM
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OshiNick is not able to answer my questions! Roll Eyes Maybe someone from the bitcointalk community can?

Number one the games, for instance Platinum Lightning is a Softswiss game (softswiss rebranded to bgaming).
Does SoftSwiss offer its gaming software only to casinos that uses their Bitcoin Casino or White Label or Turnkey Casino solution?

Or is it possible that SoftSwiss also sell its gaming software to foreign casinos without any solution from them?


Number two, I asked their live chat and they confirmed they’re softswiss (have screenshot)
This means that bitcoincasino.us operates under SoftSwiss's Bitcoin Casino solution?

If so, why does Ivan think bitcoin casinos do not need a license?

Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website.

He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protect

If you genuinely think these forums would be better without him, there are two simple things you can do:

1. Report game protect to the moderator. If enough people do this, the moderators will pay attention and ban this person
2. Give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

How-to's

Report game protect to the moderator how to:
- click 'report to moderator' and give your reasons.

Trust review how to:
- go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
- pick a scam he has already attempted
- use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments
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May 18, 2018, 05:50:40 PM
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BTCBTCBTC Oshi VIP BTCBTCBTC

We've improved Oshi VIP!

To become a VIP,  bet a certain amount of real play money each week.
Turnover requirements are here: https://oshi.io/vip

We've also simplified cashback requirements. Cashback will kick in if you have losses of more than 0.00130000 BTC, 10.00 EUR, 10.00 USD, 10.00 GBP, 15.00 AUD, 750.00 RUB, 100.00 SEK, 100.00 NOK, 10.00 CAD, and 75.00 CNY
Cashback ranges from 6% to 10% depending on what tier you're on.

We have also got a new VIP manager Max Klein... max.klein@oshi.io If you hang out on these forums and have played on Oshi in the past, or you're an existing customer, ping Max and see if he's got any bonuses for you!

Finally, there is also Oshi Black, where we nominate customers to top VIP status.

Nick


If you played on Oshi in the past and you want to give us another go, email max.klein@oshi.io to see if he can get you a nice welcome back bonus!


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May 18, 2018, 08:24:37 PM
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If you played on Oshi in the past and you want to give us another go, email max.klein@oshi.io to see if he can get you a nice welcome back bonus!
If you made the mistake and played at a SoftSwiss scam casino, you should be clever enough to not repeat your mistake!

Game Protect received countless scam reports about Curacao based casinos and also about SoftSwiss casinos like oshi.io!

Casino Evolution - Stalling 20BTC withdrawal, no information and help from the support

SoftSwiss also does not respect self-exclusion requests and take your money until you are financially broke!
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May 18, 2018, 08:34:25 PM
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Have you seen something like this before?

Game Protect, again, you're not making sense.
Please quote what does not make sense and explain why it does not make sense?

I ask legitimate questions and he does not answer it!

What do you think will happen if SoftSwiss wants to cheat you?

Exactly, they will kick your ass!
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May 20, 2018, 09:35:06 AM
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Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website.

He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protect

If you genuinely think these forums would be better without him, there are two simple things you can do:

1. Report game protect to the moderator. If enough people do this, the moderators will pay attention and ban this person
2. Give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

How-to's

Report game protect to the moderator how to:
- click 'report to moderator' and give your reasons.

Trust review how to:
- go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
- pick a scam he has already attempted
- use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments
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May 20, 2018, 11:54:09 AM
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- pick a scam he has already attempted
Where is the list of attempted scams?

Have you already opened scam accusations like it is common on bitcointalk?

If not, why not?
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May 21, 2018, 03:24:02 AM
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@gameprotect, mate why do you cross post from different threads?  You've done it now in the Oshi thread and also in mine.  I know you want answers to various topics but you should keep those topics tied to the original thread, not cross post quotes.

To a reader of these forums that isn't familiar with the myriad of topics ongoing at any one time - seeing random quotes becomes confusing.
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May 21, 2018, 03:27:11 AM
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BTCBTCBTC Oshi VIP BTCBTCBTC

We've improved Oshi VIP!

To become a VIP,  bet a certain amount of real play money each week.
Turnover requirements are here: https://oshi.io/vip

We've also simplified cashback requirements. Cashback will kick in if you have losses of more than 0.00130000 BTC, 10.00 EUR, 10.00 USD, 10.00 GBP, 15.00 AUD, 750.00 RUB, 100.00 SEK, 100.00 NOK, 10.00 CAD, and 75.00 CNY
Cashback ranges from 6% to 10% depending on what tier you're on.

We have also got a new VIP manager Max Klein... max.klein@oshi.io If you hang out on these forums and have played on Oshi in the past, or you're an existing customer, ping Max and see if he's got any bonuses for you!

Finally, there is also Oshi Black, where we nominate customers to top VIP status.

Nick


Nice, we'll be including this in our upcoming VIP program benefits piece we are currently working on.
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May 21, 2018, 11:54:48 AM
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@gameprotect, mate why do you cross post from different threads?  You've done it now in the Oshi thread and also in mine.  I know you want answers to various topics but you should keep those topics tied to the original thread, not cross post quotes.

To a reader of these forums that isn't familiar with the myriad of topics ongoing at any one time - seeing random quotes becomes confusing.
SoftSwiss is operator of oshi.io and Ivan Montic is OshiNick's boss, but according to your theories this thread Direx Limited, SoftSwiss, Direx N.V Scam by Ivan Montic has no relation to this thread?

If you are not able to understand even very basic things, how are you able to find Bitcoin casinos?

What is the advantage for players to play at casinos you found?
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May 21, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
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Ivan is not my boss...

Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website.

He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protect

If you genuinely think these forums would be better without him, there are two simple things you can do:

1. Report game protect to the moderator. If enough people do this, the moderators will pay attention and ban this person
2. Give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

How-to's

Report game protect to the moderator how to:
- click 'report to moderator' and give your reasons.

Trust review how to:
- go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
- pick a scam he has already attempted
- use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments
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May 21, 2018, 08:52:43 PM
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Ivan is not my boss...
You claim to operate under Direx N.V. and Ivan Montik is managing director of Direx N.V. and therefore your boss!

However, if you believe he is not your boss, thell us who is?

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May 22, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
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Ivan is not my boss...
You claim to operate under Direx N.V. and Ivan Montik is managing director of Direx N.V. and therefore your boss!

However, if you believe he is not your boss, thell us who is?


Game protect, it's obvious you have no idea how white label platforms work. You're just a troll.

Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website.

He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protect

If you genuinely think these forums would be better without him, there are two simple things you can do:

1. Report game protect to the moderator. If enough people do this, the moderators will pay attention and ban this person
2. Give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

How-to's

Report game protect to the moderator how to:
- click 'report to moderator' and give your reasons.

Trust review how to:
- go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
- pick a scam he has already attempted
- use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments
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May 22, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
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Ivan is not my boss...
You claim to operate under Direx N.V. and Ivan Montik is managing director of Direx N.V. and therefore your boss!

However, if you believe he is not your boss, thell us who is?


Game protect, it's obvious you have no idea how white label platforms work. You're just a troll.
Can you quote the obvious part, so that everyone can enjoy it?

Can you please explain us how the Softswiss white label fraud scheme works?

Because if Ivan is not your boss as you claim, then it must be a fraud scheme based on applicable civil and criminal laws! Cheesy

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May 22, 2018, 02:03:44 PM
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(Copied from an earlier reply... since game protect isn't interested in a debate, just trolling)


Once again game protect your not making any sense so I will try and help you...

What game protect is trying to say is that he believes the Curaçao gaming licence has no validity. Of course he doesn't say that he is an affiliate, marketing Curaçao licenced operators. Nothing like a little hypocrisy!

I have talked about this in the past, but to save reader going through numerous posts, let me explain stuff about Curaçao licensing and white label operators.

Different countries have their own licensing regimes. This list gives you a good idea the amount of regulation per country https://www.keytocasino.com/en/gambling-laws-around-the-world.html

Licensing does three things:

- acts as a framework for government get tax revenues
- gives some clarity for a game providers when it comes to deciding which country territories and or which casino operators they are going to work with. For example some game providers might not want to work with Curaçao licensed operators... Equally other game providers might not want to work with UK licensed operators.
- Creates a framework which can be used to support consumer welfare

Obviously as a reader, you're interested in consumer protection.

In the UK, gambling is highly regulated and there is a substantial tax take from the UK government. This regulation does improve consumer protection for individuals within the UK.

For European countries which don't have localised regulation, many operators use Malta licences which has an intermediate number of consumer protections associated with it https://calvinayre.com/regulators/malta/

Curaçao licences are fairly weak on consumer protection. To understand more:  https://calvinayre.com/regulators/curacao/. Curaçao licences are used

There is a correlation between the cost of a licence and the number of consumer protections it affords. More you pay,, the more resource a licensing authority will put in to consumer arbitration.
There's also a correlation between cost of licensing and value of a market place. For example UK licences are expensive, they offer a high consumer protection and it's a very profitable market if you can get a foothold

White labels
Oshi is a white label operator. Softswiss or now known as BGAMING handle transactions, licensing, customer services, game integration and we handle the marketing and strategy for Oshi. Were also responsible for our player terms and conditions.
For example, you read through my post you'll see that I'm very straight about stuff and I care about being fair with our players.  I've made those choices and as a brand and we live or die by our values. Different white label operators will have their own game plan.

As a white label operator I am allowed to use Softswiss's (BGAMING) Curaçao licence as a white label operator partner.

Why doesn't it show you is the licence holder?
The licence is in the name of Direx, which is a corporate entity registered in Curaçao tax and licensing reasons. Softswiss is a separate business which owns Direx. This arrangement is very similar to Google or Amazon or any other multinational business which has registered companies in different country territories for either licensing or tax reasons. Game protect has probably tried to say that it's all very scammy, but the reality is that it's just corporate/accountancy stuff.

Our licence: https://validator.antillephone.com/validate?domain=oshi.io&seal_id=9bf8464341b46cc486bd3ffb6525387b6cc808482d2cbd423b8b696342949e765e4287eb6913bc21514f1dc7713cf51d&stamp=6c9eea068af302a06c89ad6611841838

Technically I am not the licence holder. Direx is. However I, along with all other white label operators Softswiss / BGAMING network act as representatives of Direx. So for example if one of the white label operators was involved in attempted money laundering, Direx could lose its licence with Curaçao and every white label operator on the network would be unable to trade.

This puts a lot of responsibility on Direx to police the behaviour of every white label operator, because if there a serious licensing contravention, the whole network of sites could go down.

What does all this mean to you?

Arbitration
If you're in a country territories which doesn't have a local licensing framework for online gambling and gambling is legal where you are, you can use any casino (within reason) this table gives you some useful info https://www.keytocasino.com/en/gambling-laws-around-the-world.html

Consumer protection for players using Curaçao licence is not as good as I would like, but then brands like us rely on the arbitration services of affiliates like AskGamblers to deal with customer issues.
https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/oshi-casino-review/

We also rely on our good reputation in forums like this, which is why I'm so unhappy about 'Game protect' and his nonsense, because he doesn't understand the law and deliberately misdirects and misinforms to get people to go to his affiliate website. However, every nonsense post he puts up gives me an opportunity to talk some sense (I hope).

I've won but they're not paying!
In the end all casinos like us can do, is have clear terms and conditions that are fair, which is why we've written all our terms and conditions in plain English. Most people treat a casino as a service, where they go and gamble. However there is a large minority who treat us as an anniversary to be gamed or profit. They may win money by steering the odds in their favour i.e. through volatility arbitration or multiple duplicate account and then get caught out on terms and conditions. This kind of thing happens frequently.

Why gamble on a Curaçao licenced operator site?

Simply: Cryptocurrency. Curaçao allows casinos to use Cryptocurrency whilst not imposing overly rigourous KYC (know your customer) restrictions. In the UK, operators can offer Cryptocurrency as a payment option, but every customer has to be KYC'd. Since much of the benefit of Cryptocurrency is  pseudo-anonymity and lack of hassle, having all of this KYC and admin means you may as well just use a debit card.

Of course, I would like it if Curaçao was tighter on KYC requirements and hopefully they will do this in the future. I'd also like it if they were better on consumer arbitration.

In the end, any consumer should do their research and objectively look at a casino's reputation before putting their money down.





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What game protect is trying to say is that he believes the Curaçao gaming licence has no validity.
I never said the Curaçao gaming licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ have no validity.

I say the claims of casinos to operate under the 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ licenses have no legal basis. You might be not able to understand it, but this is a huge difference!


Of course he doesn't say that he is an affiliate,
I surely said it countless times that players can qualify for our online gaming consumer protection service if they register their accounts with any Qualify free casino.


marketing Curaçao licenced operators.
The only Curaçao licenced operators are the 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ license holders and Game Protect does not marketing them.


I have talked about this in the past, but to save reader going through numerous posts, let me explain stuff about Curaçao licensing and white label operators.

Different countries have their own licensing regimes.
Curaçao does not have a licensing regime! Even the PPO confirmed this: "Brick and mortar casinos and lotteries are regulated by two dfferent organizations, whereas online games of chance are yet to be regulated in anticipation of legislation."


This list gives you a good idea the amount of regulation per country https://www.keytocasino.com/en/gambling-laws-around-the-world.html
What relevant information do they give for players playing at Curaçao based casinos?

Where do they explain how the white label construction works?


This is a link to the Antillephone seal status page, right?

How or based on which laws can you claim the information at the seal status page of Antillephone is your license, while Curacao eGaming itself publicly states that the seal status is not to be accepted as valid license certificate?

I will explain with the example of a driving license what the seal status page is:

1) If authorities issued a driving license to you, they will give you a document / card called driving license with your photo on it.

2) The information that you have a driving license is also in a central register.

3) The seal status page information that oshi.io operates under the 8048/JAZ license is similiar to 2), but it is not 1), it is not your license certificate or your license as you false and misleading claim!

And there is also a huge difference between 2) and 3), because 2) is a register by authorities whereas 3) is a register by an anonymous adventure called Antillephone N.V.

Your license must be a document or contract with the 8048/JAZ license holder, because only the 8048/JAZ license holder holds a license issued by the Government of Curacao and no one else.

To show a valid license for oshi.io, you need to show us a valid authorization from 8048/JAZ license holder to Direx N.V. and then a valid authorization from Direx N.V. to the company that operates osho.io?

And if there is no company that operates oshi.io, then Direx N.V. is the operator of the website oshi.io! Because only companies can have a usage rights contract to operate under the 8048/JAZ license.

And in this case and as I already said, Ivan is your boss because Ivan is the managing director of Direx N.V.!
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