Men and their weapons

[Sithara007]

It's not surprising at all everything we do we must have a way to make it deadly,  we always looking for new ways to kill our fellow men all because we want to be feared.

I can't agree with your post. We mostly use weapons for self-defense. Weapons give us more confidence and a feeling of safety. 99% of us don't want to kill our fellow human beings. And we also don't want anyone to fear us.

[tvbcof]

Swords and axes are good for the purpose of posing for photos, but in practical situations they are useless (especially if your enemy owns an assault rifle). Personally, I don't own a gun. But I would feel more secure and safe, if I could get hold of one of them.

This is an element of the gun debate here in the U.S. that is overlooked in my opinion.  Overlooked by both sides.

People spend vast sums of money and take significant risks to enjoy a feeling of safety and security.  Airbags in cars, taxes for police and fire, alarm systems in homes, pharmaceutical products, etc.  Feeling this way is a fundamental quality-of-life issue.

Having access to a firearm for personal protection certainly gives a lot of people a noticeably enhanced sense of safety and security, and it is more-so in instances where friends and neighbors have had problems with crime or where one has had to take out a restraining order on someone and so forth.

It is important to note that whether, statistically, guns are more of hindrance to safety than a help, they do add substantively to many people's quality of life.  Especially those who are physically disadvantaged and thus more often targeted by scummy criminals.  This should be an important element of the discussions here.

[tikboyhere]

I believe that the weapon of being a man is his body. It was being forged by pain and endurance. Pain from hardwork like running, push ups and lifting. We also need to consider their diet because it is being part of endurance, focus and strict discpline. I just want to share my experience from being 90kg, I am down now to 75kgs and it really gives me so much confidence. Hearing good things from others puts additional confidence to myself. Its the best weapon for the reasons that it will help you to be successful in life because you will be no longer afraid of trying something since youre body itself is fully equiped already.

[Jomaica]

I think sword is a very mighty weapon if we are in  Victorian era or something, it will be very useful for sure but now it is only for decoration and for other entertainment purposes and also sport and it's very awkward if you actually carry a weapon like a sword for protection in public people might not take you seriously, they might think you are a cos player . I prefer to carry a small knife instead or a balisong (a Philippine weapon).

[pisston]

I think sword is a very mighty weapon if we are in  Victorian era or something, it will be very useful for sure but now it is only for decoration and for other entertainment purposes and also sport and it's very awkward if you actually carry a weapon like a sword for protection in public people might not take you seriously, they might think you are a cos player . I prefer to carry a small knife instead or a balisong (a Philippine weapon).

Undoubtedly, you are right, especially when you pull Machete from behind your belt and hit someone with your paws a couple of times to break the bones, I do not think that someone else will contradict you. Only radical measures can stop the chaos.

[tvbcof]

I think sword is a very mighty weapon if we are in  Victorian era or something, it will be very useful for sure but now it is only for decoration and for other entertainment purposes and also sport and it's very awkward if you actually carry a weapon like a sword for protection in public people might not take you seriously, they might think you are a cos player . I prefer to carry a small knife instead or a balisong (a Philippine weapon).

Undoubtedly, you are right, especially when you pull Machete from behind your belt and hit someone with your paws a couple of times to break the bones, I do not think that someone else will contradict you. Only radical measures can stop the chaos.

I'm guessing that this will be the sales pitch behind having all humans be fitted with a neural lace.  End violence, and dangerous behavior generally.  Basically, a AI computer will be monitoring everyone in real-time and can stop them from doing anything 'bad.'  Of course certain trustworthy people (e.g., the wealthy, higher level technocrats, etc) will not need one.

I'm sure your average soccer-mom would be all for it.  Her kids will have a safe environment to grow up in with no bullying and that sort of thing.  Many pros, and the cons (e.g., that the controllers would ever mis-use their power) are mostly crazy conspiracy theories.

[coolcoinz]

If we're talking about melee weapons, it has been proven that japanese swords are superior. They cut into almost any material and are even able to withstand a bullet from a modern gun, so if you're lucky it's possible to shield yourself from a rifle shot with a katana
Swords and knives can still be very dangerous weapons in crowded areas. Think what a skilled swordsman could do in a train or a busy street during rush hours.

[Lancusters]

It's not surprising at all everything we do we must have a way to make it deadly,  we always looking for new ways to kill our fellow men all because we want to be feared.

I can't agree with your post. We mostly use weapons for self-defense. Weapons give us more confidence and a feeling of safety. 99% of us don't want to kill our fellow human beings. And we also don't want anyone to fear us.

And I want to be feared. But have to fear criminals. They should always know that at any moment a victim can become a hunter or some of the bystanders may help to resist. Then crime will be less. All comes from the impunity, while on every corner the police will not put.

[Okurkabinladin]

It's not surprising at all everything we do we must have a way to make it deadly,  we always looking for new ways to kill our fellow men all because we want to be feared.

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.

- Robert A. Heinlein

I find it interesting how different cultures have very different designs of melee weapons. From scimitars from the Middle East, kukris from Nepal, medieval weapons such as morningstars, war hammers and flails, Japanese katanas, the list is exhaustive. Also many weapons were designed with specific warriors in mind - heavy, bludgeoning weapons for large, strong soldiers, and lighter, sharper weapons for the more nimble fighters.

Similar to modern weaponry, it seems that war has always been a catalyst for new and experimental technology. I'm sure that even in ancient times, the manufacturers of the best weapons would have been very well paid.

It's worth mentioning that ranged weapons, such as spears and longbows, would have been a significant technological advantage (both for hunting and war) when they were developed, and may have significantly changed history.

However, more recently the saying "the pen is mightier than the sword" is certainly becoming truer than ever. While originally the pen was literally writing and drawing propaganda, in these modern times the pen is a metaphor for the video camera. And its moving pictures can be spread within moments across the entire globe, edited to follow certain agendas and ideologies.

What's more, we are currently in an era where a computer and webcam have huge amounts of power and influence, I'd go so far as to say the keyboard may be the next evolution in handheld weaponry. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk

I dont think pen (or camera) makes good comparison. Men argued each other since dawn of time, tools of war were then employed where agreement failed. Just as camera is complementary to the word of mouth, assault rifle is complementary to the kukri or indeed hatchet.

Yes, research of historical weapons is as rewarding as study of religion systems. Both, reflected mindsets of the people, who used them.

Remarkably, men-at-arms - easpecially in Europe in middle East often took both sharp and bludgeoning weapons. As did weapons evolve, so did armor in evolution of combat. You cant cut through plate armor, but you might be able to crush it. Yet, unarmored opponent with sword will have far more reach, than your war hammer. - so you need armor too.

[Okurkabinladin]

Weapons, words that one might call a tool for battle, but now the weapon for fighting men is money. 

Said man, whose life is dependant on other men willing to kill for his safety 

Try to buy those:

I always liked swords and other weapons. When I was a kid my friends and I would make our own. We used wood and would sand the edges and paint the swords to make them look more real. Then we would have mock sword fights. Not that we knew what we were doing.. I wonder if these games are just ingrained in our subconscious from past dna or its programming from the movies we watched.

These days you just order your swords and other medieval weapons online, sharpened or dull your preference.

http://www.handmadesword.com/
https://www.reliks.com/

You might be interested in HEMA (historical european martial arts) then. There are several knowledge able youtubers on this topic. For example Matt Easton or Skallagrim. Sparring with real weapons with properly trained people moves entire exercise onto whole new level. Not to mention its great for your fitness level.

[Slow death]

Oh this guy reminds me nero of devil may cry, big game

My father is military I always caught some guns... I like colt 1911, caliber 45.

Many guns I see when I play call of duty and many other electronic war games

[Okurkabinladin]

Oh this guy reminds me nero of devil may cry, big game

My father is military I always caught some guns... I like colt 1911, caliber 45.

Many guns I see when I play call of duty and many other electronic war games

Picture is from Dark souls, another great game. However, this piece of armor is historically accurate. Maxmillian type was used in late medieval times to a great effect, protecting its owners against virtually anything but cannonballs and high powered long guns. Remarkably it was light too, 25 kilograms (55 pounds) is less, than soldiers these days carry into battle and it was suspended all over the joints, not hindering movement.

It's not surprising at all everything we do we must have a way to make it deadly,  we always looking for new ways to kill our fellow men all because we want to be feared.

I can't agree with your post. We mostly use weapons for self-defense. Weapons give us more confidence and a feeling of safety. 99% of us don't want to kill our fellow human beings. And we also don't want anyone to fear us.

Agreed. Lindybeige made a great educational video on the fact, that vast majority people in the past wars actually aimed above head of their opponents. Missing them on purpose basically. Militaries than started to train people differently, ingraining into them to aim "too low". Even in war only a minority kill other human beings on purpose.

Shooting to kill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zViyZGmBhvs

[TheCoinGrabber]

Swords and axes are good for the purpose of posing for photos, but in practical situations they are useless (especially if your enemy owns an assault rifle). Personally, I don't own a gun. But I would feel more secure and safe, if I could get hold of one of them.

You are not right. When a person is good with a knife is also a very serious weapon in our time. I have a pistol and assault rifle. I know whereof I speak. If you have a gun, and the enemy is proficient with a knife is at a distance of ten meters from you, believe me you do not have much of a chance.

Not to mention, knives are concealed weapons, that's why they've always been associated with stealth and assassination. IMHO, children should be taught martial arts in school and that included use of these weapons and tactics to disarm them. Gun classes then come later in high school.

Thus it is necessary not to forget to educate children so that they their knowledge is not directed against people, though of course if children are well-behaved then the ability to use weapons they do not need.

I think it's really about responsible gun ownership. The way guns are looked upon now, it seems like it's treated more as a weapon of power and violence rather than an instrument of order. If everyone's gonna get a gun at one point though, it'll seem, well - commonplace. I remember here in my country, there's a province where people are said to carry their butterfly daggers like they'd wear undies. Consequently, they were polite coz things could turn into a knife fight if they don't keep their heads cool.

I also think the issuing of a personal gun when someone reached a certain age and level of mastery acts as a sort of rite of passage, imbuing the gun with a deeper meaning.

[Eternu]

Swords and axes are good for the purpose of posing for photos, but in practical situations they are useless (especially if your enemy owns an assault rifle). Personally, I don't own a gun. But I would feel more secure and safe, if I could get hold of one of them.

You are not right. When a person is good with a knife is also a very serious weapon in our time. I have a pistol and assault rifle. I know whereof I speak. If you have a gun, and the enemy is proficient with a knife is at a distance of ten meters from you, believe me you do not have much of a chance.

Not to mention, knives are concealed weapons, that's why they've always been associated with stealth and assassination. IMHO, children should be taught martial arts in school and that included use of these weapons and tactics to disarm them. Gun classes then come later in high school.

Thus it is necessary not to forget to educate children so that they their knowledge is not directed against people, though of course if children are well-behaved then the ability to use weapons they do not need.

I think it's really about responsible gun ownership. The way guns are looked upon now, it seems like it's treated more as a weapon of power and violence rather than an instrument of order. If everyone's gonna get a gun at one point though, it'll seem, well - commonplace. I remember here in my country, there's a province where people are said to carry their butterfly daggers like they'd wear undies. Consequently, they were polite coz things could turn into a knife fight if they don't keep their heads cool.

I also think the issuing of a personal gun when someone reached a certain age and level of mastery acts as a sort of rite of passage, imbuing the gun with a deeper meaning.

Man has always been drown to weapons, from swords to guns. Also weapon sometime represent status, so the better (Expensive) weapon you have, the more wealthy you are, but that does not mean that you know when and how to use it, and that is the biggest problem. Most of people have access to a weapon, but did not take time to learn how to use it properly. Now days people do not take weapon too seriously, and they should.

[gabmen]

When it comes to swords and men who revere and was revered through them, I can only think of the Japanese samurais. There have been a lot of civilizations and warriors of different nation but I think none would come close to how samurais value the katana. It is well known that these people consider their swords as brothers of their souls and that it defines basically who they are, living and dying with these weapons preferably in their hands.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Swords and axes are good for the purpose of posing for photos, but in practical situations they are useless (especially if your enemy owns an assault rifle). Personally, I don't own a gun. But I would feel more secure and safe, if I could get hold of one of them.

You are not right. When a person is good with a knife is also a very serious weapon in our time. I have a pistol and assault rifle. I know whereof I speak. If you have a gun, and the enemy is proficient with a knife is at a distance of ten meters from you, believe me you do not have much of a chance.

Not to mention, knives are concealed weapons, that's why they've always been associated with stealth and assassination. IMHO, children should be taught martial arts in school and that included use of these weapons and tactics to disarm them. Gun classes then come later in high school.

Thus it is necessary not to forget to educate children so that they their knowledge is not directed against people, though of course if children are well-behaved then the ability to use weapons they do not need.

I think it's really about responsible gun ownership. The way guns are looked upon now, it seems like it's treated more as a weapon of power and violence rather than an instrument of order. If everyone's gonna get a gun at one point though, it'll seem, well - commonplace. I remember here in my country, there's a province where people are said to carry their butterfly daggers like they'd wear undies. Consequently, they were polite coz things could turn into a knife fight if they don't keep their heads cool.

I also think the issuing of a personal gun when someone reached a certain age and level of mastery acts as a sort of rite of passage, imbuing the gun with a deeper meaning.

Man has always been drown to weapons, from swords to guns. Also weapon sometime represent status, so the better (Expensive) weapon you have, the more wealthy you are, but that does not mean that you know when and how to use it, and that is the biggest problem. Most of people have access to a weapon, but did not take time to learn how to use it properly. Now days people do not take weapon too seriously, and they should.

When you said status, I suddenly remembered feudal Japan where commoners can't have swords. Weapons are mass-produced now and their easier than ever to get.

IMHO this is why the state should be more engaged in education people on not just using it but using it responsibly. This might require a cultural change though. I mean, the Swiss are well-armed but they don't have mass shootings like in the US.

[criptix]

Why are nations with gun abundance mostly 3rd world and civil war countries?

The USA is polite? Does a polite nation go to (senseless) wars 224 out of 241 years of existence? 

They have one of the highest gun deaths per year per 100.000 people.


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Why do swiss have so much weapons any1 know and can explain?

[darkangel11]

Why are nations with gun abundance mostly 3rd world and civil war countries?

The USA is polite? Does a polite nation go to (senseless) wars 224 out of 241 years of existence?  

They have one of the highest gun deaths per year per 100.000 people.


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Why do swiss have so much weapons any1 know and can explain?

They have extremely liberal gun laws compared to the rest of Europe. You just register the gun and that's all, while in most EU countries you have to undergo a strict background check and sometimes even psychiatric evaluation.

There are many countries with a relatively high ownership ratio and very small number of gun crimes. Guns don't kill, people do. If you give guns to people in an unstable environment, where there's a lot of crime, not much work, and kids are spending their days pickpocketing or getting high, you'll have high gun crime numbers.


Low number of guns doesn't necessarily mean low number of gun crimes.
Compare disarmed countries like Japan or South Korea with Norway or Iceland.
Norway has 30 times more guns that SK, but only 2 times the number of gun crimes.

[criptix]

Why are nations with gun abundance mostly 3rd world and civil war countries?

The USA is polite? Does a polite nation go to (senseless) wars 224 out of 241 years of existence? 

They have one of the highest gun deaths per year per 100.000 people.


Edit

Why do swiss have so much weapons any1 know and can explain?

They have extremely liberal gun laws compared to the rest of Europe. You just register the gun and that's all, while in most EU countries you have to undergo a strict background check and sometimes even psychiatric evaluation.

There are many countries with a relatively high ownership ratio and very small number of gun crimes. Guns don't kill, people do. If you give guns to people in an unstable environment, where there's a lot of crime, not much work, and kids are spending their days pickpocketing or getting high, you'll have high gun crime numbers.


Low number of guns doesn't necessarily mean low number of gun crimes.
Compare disarmed countries like Japan or South Korea with Norway or Iceland.
Norway has 30 times more guns that SK, but only 2 times the number of gun crimes.

Wait i though the nr. 1 narrative of guns for everyone is that it makes everything safer?!
The graphic and the arguments you use contradict that narrative strongly.

Also: holyshit how comes the scadinavian rape for all nations are actually packed with guns.
The finns even have as much guns as the swiss luls
Something isnt right

[LostWords]

Also: holyshit how comes the scadinavian rape for all nations are actually packed with guns.
The finns even have as much guns as the swiss luls
Something isnt right

Probably because of hunting. There is a lot of wildlife in those countries. The funny thing is that when you look at this list of 10 best countries for gun owners: http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/culture-politics-network/best-countries-gun-owners/ you will see Finland at nr. 9, Sweden nr. 7 and Norway at nr. 5.