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June 18, 2017, 11:56:13 PM
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  I have an issue involving

https://www.bitfinex.com/


https://poloniex.com/


I transferred 1.52 ETC  FROM  bitfinex to poloniex

Not much coin  and while some may think it is a technical issue  it is more about the way  they are handling this problem



Bitfinex
Withdrawal Approved
Your withdrawal #2141138 of 1.5168974 ETC (≈ 32.48 USD) via ETHEREUMC has been approved.

Withdrawal processing time:
Bitcoin: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Ether: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
EtherClassic: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Zcash: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Monero: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Litecoin: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Dash: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Ripple: Processed within 1 minute after approval, subject to "hot wallet" available balance. Processed within 12 hours maximum.
Normal wire withdrawals: Processed within 7 business days after approval
Express wire withdrawals: Processed within 1 business days after approval
Please note that for security reasons, Bitfinex maintains limited crypto-currency balances in its on-line hot wallet. Should your withdrawal exceed the available amount, Bitfinex will need to manually replenish the hot wallet and/or manually review and approve withdrawals, which may take up to 12 hours.
VIEW WITHDRAWAL DETAILS





Withdraw > Ethereumc Withdrawal 2141138
Withdraw completed successfully at June 11, 2017 22:30.

Status   Completed
Amount   1.51689740 ETC
Info   address 0x1417d559cd82764475830418d0a5a0e0b6bd79c2
tx 0x68b16882a8ffd2ee14873e6742eab145d6a0e...
Created   11-06-17 22:27:59



http://gastracker.io/addr/0x1417d559cd82764475830418d0a5a0e0b6bd79c2

http://gastracker.io/tx/0x68b16882a8ffd2ee14873e6742eab145d6a0eea249b0997fa3ff0683a95638e6


So they say funds  have been sent

but if you look  it is wrong it looks stuck





if you look at this explorer   no transactions

https://etcchain.com/addr/0x1417d559cd82764475830418d0a5a0e0b6bd79c2


look here no record of deposit


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June 19, 2017, 12:06:40 AM
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So what is your problem it is chump change  you are giving  more then that away in your difficulty contest.
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June 19, 2017, 12:12:51 AM
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Hey bitfinex  stole from me last year along with hundreds of others.

I left them and this was just a fractional payback of what they lost or stole last year.

They are why I ended the contest last year.

Now they  are being a weasel about this  payment and don't answer my emails.

To make it worse  poloniex    does not answer my inquiries on this.

So I have to spend time writing a warning thread  about both exchanges  since they are not doing their jobs correctly .

I don't care about 30usd in coin as you said i am giving more then $50 away in the free contest.

This it to warn people of shoddy service on the part of two major exchanges .


No sure  if I should post it here.  But some one will chime in I am sure.

The two explorer changes don't agree.  That is an issue

Thats the point


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June 19, 2017, 01:17:20 AM
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Basically something seems wrong with Poloniex ETC wallet. Because when you send ETH/ETC (needs to be > 1 on Polo) it takes a few minutes for it to get redirected to another address, yours is still stuck on your deposit address, this seems to be an issue on Poloniex's end.

I think they just need to resync the wallet and it should be fine. There is proof that it got deposited to the correct address and you shouldn't worry.

Bitfinex sometimes has delays with their withdraws lately because to save on fees they started grouping transactions together. So if you withdraw BTC or LTC (maybe ETH/ETC) what they do is they wait until there are like 20-30 withdraws at the same time and they combine the transaction together. So it will have many inputs and many outputs and this sometimes causes delays.

Poloniex is overloaded with new traders and busy approving people's IDs so they can get their tier upgraded, so that's why its taking a while for them to respond to your ticket, but I am sure this will resolve in itself.

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June 19, 2017, 01:20:54 AM
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According to one of the links you posted in your OP, the transaction was confirmed in block 3895841 of ETC.

The picture you posted with the red "unconfirmed transaction" is a "key" of what all the "descriptions" of transactions mean.

If you have not received credit on your poloiex poloniex account then I would suggest that you contact poloniex (and/or open a thread about poloniex).

Whenever I deposit/withdraw any kind of coin from any exchange, I will always deposit from/sent to an address whose private key I control in case there are any issues with the transaction.
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June 19, 2017, 01:23:29 AM
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Agreed!  Trading platforms have a duty to make sure payouts happen as quickly as possible.

In the world of trading if you have to wait 6 hr's or more for your money.. you can lose a fortune!

If they can't keep up with new registrations.. CLOSE them.. its bad practice for a trading platform to focus on new customers when existing ones are waiting for payouts.

Its unacceptable.. no matter small trader or larger..

Examples of issues

June 15, 2017, 05:57:57 AM   -   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1967629.0

June 13, 2017, 06:11:22 AM    -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1964514.0

June 08, 2017, 11:41:49 AM    -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957033.0

May 06, 2017, 02:16:20 AM   -   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1903332.0


They are getting a bad rep for this kind of thing.  Possibly they are now under so much load they can't keep up....

That's a warning sign in my eyes.

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June 19, 2017, 01:50:30 AM
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According to one of the links you posted in your OP, the transaction was confirmed in block 3895841 of ETC.

The picture you posted with the red "unconfirmed transaction" is a "key" of what all the "descriptions" of transactions mean.

If you have not received credit on your poloiex poloniex account then I would suggest that you contact poloniex (and/or open a thread about poloniex).

Whenever I deposit/withdraw any kind of coin from any exchange, I will always deposit from/sent to an address whose private key I control in case there are any issues with the transaction.

I did contact them 3 times.  Frankly the problem is they just don't answer  .

Like I said it is not much money but  just think if it was 10 eth .  or more.

I have been sending them a contact each day and I got one auto response  on the first one and zero follow up.

Both of these exchanges have done shit like this  to me before but I figure I may as well write about it here and link this to the exchanges.

I do think that 2 blockchain explorers should be in synch  since it is not a junk coin so to speak.

I never keep much money in these two exchanges because frankly their service has been shitty time and time again.

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June 19, 2017, 03:20:35 AM
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I still don't understand what your concern about bitfinex is. You requested a withdrawal to a certain address, bitfinex processed that withdrawal and sent the requested amount to the requested address, and the transaction confirmed.

I don't think it would make very much sense to blame bitfinex if you told them to send your BTC to someone like Lauda, and Lauda subsequently ran away with your money. As such, I don't think it makes sense to blame bitfinex if you told them to send ETC to poloniex and poloniex subsequently did not credit your account.
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Last edit: June 19, 2017, 12:07:42 PM by philipma1957
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I still don't understand what your concern about bitfinex is. You requested a withdrawal to a certain address, bitfinex processed that withdrawal and sent the requested amount to the requested address, and the transaction confirmed.

I don't think it would make very much sense to blame bitfinex if you told them to send your BTC to someone like Lauda, and Lauda subsequently ran away with your money. As such, I don't think it makes sense to blame bitfinex if you told them to send ETC to poloniex and poloniex subsequently did not credit your account.

I was not clear enough  this explorer shows no coins


https://etcchain.com/addr/0x1417d559cd82764475830418d0a5a0e0b6bd79c2

this explorer shows coins

http://gastracker.io/addr/0x1417d559cd82764475830418d0a5a0e0b6bd79c2

that is a direct conflict

and of course  Poloniex  does not show my 1.52 ETC


Both companies don't answer my emails on this.

If both  explorer's  did show the money  I would be all over Poloniex.com

But the fact is according to etcchain.com  I have zero coin.

So bitfinex   has not addressed this issue for me..

Like I said not much coin I really don't care about the coin.

I do care that  bitfinex does not address the conflict in  blockchain explorer.  If this was serious money
they would lose in a civil suit  for not addressing this.

I also care  that others may be having this issue of   gastracker.io  and etcchain.com  having a conflict in info

and exchanges saying fuck off.

So for now I consider both  exchanges wrong for not addressing this conflict in  blockchain explorer info

I call it a possible scam  in the making. my funds are locked in space  and one company (poloniex) does not answer me at all.

 while the other company (bitfinex)   does not address the conflict in explorer information.

Not good practice by them at all.

I am sending more emails to poloniex and bitfinex  asking them to view this thread  and how to :

A) fix the problem
B) explain the blockchain explorer conflict.

see screen shot below


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