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October 07, 2018, 10:57:25 AM
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The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.
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October 07, 2018, 12:17:52 PM
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The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.

Your justification for the occupation of the Crimea is very similar to the justification by the Russians of the war with Finland for being located close to Leningad. With this logic, any country has the right, if it wishes, to start a war.
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October 07, 2018, 01:02:06 PM
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The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.

Your justification for the occupation of the Crimea is very similar to the justification by the Russians of the war with Finland for being located close to Leningad. With this logic, any country has the right, if it wishes, to start a war.


Actually, two completely unrelated events, and not similar in any way. Crimea was given as gift to Ukraine by Khrushcev, while Finland
was never part of Russia. Attack on Finland could be better compared with USA attack on texas, although USA actually achieved
goal and took Texas from Mexico forever
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October 07, 2018, 02:11:14 PM
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The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.

Your justification for the occupation of the Crimea is very similar to the justification by the Russians of the war with Finland for being located close to Leningad. With this logic, any country has the right, if it wishes, to start a war.


Actually, two completely unrelated events, and not similar in any way. Crimea was given as gift to Ukraine by Khrushcev, while Finland
was never part of Russia. Attack on Finland could be better compared with USA attack on texas, although USA actually achieved
goal and took Texas from Mexico forever

Crimea was donated to Ukraine because Crimea is not the original territory of Russia. For example, did he not give Ukraine any other territory? Secondly, the gift is a gift. This does not mean that the gift can be taken back.
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October 07, 2018, 03:47:34 PM
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Crimea was donated to Ukraine because Crimea is not the original territory of Russia. For example, did he not give Ukraine any other territory? Secondly, the gift is a gift. This does not mean that the gift can be taken back.
There is no "gift of populace" notion in international law, neither there was in Soviet law.
Population are not slaves to be gifted. Officially, it was not a gift, it was illegal act, both from the point of view of USSR and of Russian Soviet Federative Republic and even of Ukrainian SSR.
And Sevastopol was not "gifted" around that time, it was "gifted" (illegally ceded) by Yeltsin.

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October 08, 2018, 11:05:42 AM
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I'm my opinion USA is the most aggressive country. But countries can do nothing it. American media bombarded the world population with propaganda 24/7. And USA has the most powerful military in the World. Thus no one can criticize the USA. It is like the Emperor new cloth story. Every Leader that criticize would be painted evil, replace and killed even their only intention is helping their own people.

Russia isn't aggressive country, but it has to defend its rights and borders
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October 08, 2018, 03:16:40 PM
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How can you call Russia agressor? The history of this country is full of wars, you are right. But did you think how people feel during this taugh time? German attacked Poland and Ukraine and only Russia could resist... Russia lost in this 2 world war more people than other countreis together. More than 20 million Russians. They saved YOU from fashists. But your media fool you and you do not know the truth. Americans think that they won in the 2nd world war, but it's not true. Russia did it.
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October 08, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
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How can you call Russia agressor? The history of this country is full of wars, you are right. But did you think how people feel during this taugh time? German attacked Poland and Ukraine and only Russia could resist... Russia lost in this 2 world war more people than other countreis together. More than 20 million Russians. They saved YOU from fashists. But your media fool you and you do not know the truth. Americans think that they won in the 2nd world war, but it's not true. Russia did it.

It wasn't so simple, though...but Americans played it cleverly, pitted Germany on Russia, then helped Russia, all
for their profit, while bleeding both Russia and Germany...I hope new generation of Russia and Germany politicians are more smart


As someone said somewhere, in Battle for Berlin, Russians drove Studebaker trucks, Americans used Ford, and Germans used General Motors
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October 08, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
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Americans think that they won in the 2nd world war, but it's not true. Russia did it.

To be completely correct, it was the Soviet Union. Apart from territory, modern Russia has very little in common with its predecessor.
It played the major role, but I think the USA did their important contribution as well: who knows how the history would`ve gone if Americans didn`t confront Japan on the Pacific front?
Don`t forget it wasn`t only Germany the other countries fought against, it was the Axis powers.
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October 09, 2018, 06:41:03 PM
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Russia is the most aggressive country

    Following the Second World War, Russia is the only country that has seized foreign territories and even the whole state. Neither the United States, nor the United Kingdom, nor Canada, as a winner country, unlike Russia, did not acquire a meter of foreign land, but Russia seized vast territories:
 - 10% of the territory of Finland, and this is almost the territory of Switzerland,
 - annexed part of Germany (East Prussia),
 - three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR,
 - the huge territories of Poland were torn away in favor of the USSR,
 - annexed part of Romania (Bessarabia),
 - Tyva was annexed (in 1944),
 - part of the territory of Japan (Southern Sakhalin with the Kuril Islands) has been annexed.

 
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Do you have any idea what you wrote? Beginning to read the true history books of our world, and then say that someone has captured in this world.
What is shown on television today is not the slightest truth. Today show that Russia provoked the 2nd world war. How dare you do this to write! If would nor the USSR you would all executed in camps or destroyed under Hitler and fascist Germany!
I am sure everyone is tormented by greed and greed only because Russia has such large territories and such wealth - this is the main reason for discord.
Do not look into the GARDEN to another - count your hectares!
You would still remembered the adventures of Alexander the great or the Roman Empire!.
Better look at what is happening in the world today-the whole of Africa and the middle East is on Fire just because the United States and the whole of Europe are spreading chaos and disorder there funding terrorists.

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October 09, 2018, 06:44:49 PM
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Alik Bakhshi

Russia is the most aggressive country

    Following the Second World War, Russia is the only country that has seized foreign territories and even the whole state. Neither the United States, nor the United Kingdom, nor Canada, as a winner country, unlike Russia, did not acquire a meter of foreign land, but Russia seized vast territories:
 - 10% of the territory of Finland, and this is almost the territory of Switzerland,
 - annexed part of Germany (East Prussia),
 - three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR,
 - the huge territories of Poland were torn away in favor of the USSR,
 - annexed part of Romania (Bessarabia),
 - Tyva was annexed (in 1944),
 - part of the territory of Japan (Southern Sakhalin with the Kuril Islands) has been annexed.

 
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Do you have any idea what you wrote? Beginning to read the true history books of our world, and then say that someone has captured in this world.
What is shown on television today is not the slightest truth. Today show that Russia provoked the 2nd world war. How dare you do this to write! If would nor the USSR you would all executed in camps or destroyed under Hitler and fascist Germany!
I am sure everyone is tormented by greed and greed only because Russia has such large territories and such wealth - this is the main reason for discord.
Do not look into the GARDEN to another - count your hectares!
You would still remembered the adventures of Alexander the great or the Roman Empire!.
Better look at what is happening in the world today-the whole of Africa and the middle East is on Fire just because the United States and the whole of Europe are spreading chaos and disorder there funding terrorists.


While most of what you wrote is true, you can't disregard this:



German and Soviet officers shaking hands following the invasion of Poland
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October 09, 2018, 07:29:42 PM
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Wouldn't Germany be most aggressive country then? Even going at such lengths as attacking an ally, while having 3-front war already. That's what i would call excessive aggressiveness. Sure, some might say that USSR was preparing their own attack on western front, if Germany didn't strike first, but as I've read from historic documents, many Hitler's advisers advised him not to attack USSR in current circumstances. Yet, he was such an aggressive dude, that he could resist the urge to strike, and he did, and the history went as we know it. Nowadays Russia's aggressive posture is nothing more than a bravado really. There isn't any wars that happen on a global scale, and the one war that is happening, is economic one, and Russia's currently losing it.
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October 16, 2018, 05:55:01 PM
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Usually, travelers can be robbed or kidnapped while drinking in nightclubs or bars, after accepting the proposals of free food, drinks, or transportation from strangers. Don’t leave your food or beverages unattended. Kidnapping for political reasons is possible in the North Caucasus. At one time the tourists have been attacked.
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October 16, 2018, 07:06:04 PM
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Usually, travelers can be robbed or kidnapped while drinking in nightclubs or bars, after accepting the proposals of free food, drinks, or transportation from strangers. Don’t leave your food or beverages unattended. Kidnapping for political reasons is possible in the North Caucasus. At one time the tourists have been attacked.

There is North Caucasus in the USA? From your description sounds almost as dangerous as Chicago or Detroit
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October 21, 2018, 04:03:51 PM
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Usually, travelers can be robbed or kidnapped while drinking in nightclubs or bars, after accepting the proposals of free food, drinks, or transportation from strangers. Don’t leave your food or beverages unattended. Kidnapping for political reasons is possible in the North Caucasus. At one time the tourists have been attacked.
This sort of thing is not only limited to Russia but almost every tourist Hotspot in the world. The local citizens will always try one way or another to steal from the tourists. It’s not something new so don’t vilify the Russians because of that .

 
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October 21, 2018, 05:18:20 PM
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More aggressive than the USA?  Huh
I don't think so. Yes, Putin is displayed as the bad guy and yes he is doing shady stuff, but so is everyone else. They just have a better image. Also without Russia there would be no counterpoint to the dominance of the States. No good if one global player has overwhelming power.
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October 21, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
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In general, it is ridiculous to consider Russia an aggressor. The largest country in the world has no global territorial claims. Russia did not join the Donbas, although local residents expected it and hoped for it.
There are no economic benefits, unlike the United States, for which any war anywhere is beneficial for the dollar.
Russia is under constant pressure of propoganda from the west. Not to mention the economic pressure.
Perhaps the tale of terrorism has already annoyed everyone and needs a new external opponent.
And China, though a great threat, but a bad goal. He is able to make the whole Western world an economic hell and leave them without pants very quickly.
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November 05, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
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Foreigners are usually scammed via dating websites. Once the relationship develops, the target is asked by their friend or prospective partner to transfer money to make the travel to the country of the victim’s origin possible. When the money has been obtained the relationship is usually terminated. On the streets be careful and avoid playing in different gambling games, as they always organized with malice prepense.
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November 05, 2018, 09:11:15 PM
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Russia is not an aggressive country. Those who claim that Russia is an aggressive country do not understand the true structure of the world. Russia is always forced only to defend itself.

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November 06, 2018, 10:49:55 AM
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I believe that the above applies only to the policies that are led by the heads of state.
But in no case, it is not necessary to transfer this negative attitude to the inhabitants of Russia, ordinary people. Believe me, they themselves have always been the victims of their rulers.
This is very sad. Now in Russia, too, not everyone agrees with the foreign policy of the authorities. Therefore, it is not necessary to transfer the negative to the whole nation. It is necessary to treat people humanly, despite the policy.
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