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June 28, 2017, 01:48:54 PM |
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Some people will never learn.
Oh, Ive learned that only 2fa is really secure, until it aint. So why is it not mandatory, the whole point of this thread. Of course id like my litecoin back. And I want the fees polo made off my theft back. However, I am simply arguing for 2fa to be mandatory at polo. The fact that it isn't, when this is a repeat problem effecting several people should leave them open to a lawsuit.
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June 28, 2017, 01:58:23 PM Last edit: June 28, 2017, 03:37:49 PM by sud |
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Some people will never learn.
Oh, Ive learned that only 2fa is really secure, until it aint. So why is it not mandatory, the whole point of this thread. Of course id like my litecoin back. And I want the fees polo made off my theft back. However, I am simply arguing for 2fa to be mandatory at polo. The fact that it isn't, when this is a repeat problem effecting several people should leave them open to a lawsuit. It's not mandatory because some prefer convenience over security. Their choice. If you want best protection of your account, go to settings page and enable all security options. I do it on every exchange right after sign up.
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silvermetal
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June 28, 2017, 02:01:47 PM |
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Oddly enough an E-mail confirmation is not necessary to process the withdrawal after the hack at poloniex.
Agree with the op, because poloniex is aware that multiple accounts without a 2fa are hacked they must take action (eg inform their customers, make 2fa mandatory and delay withdrawals). Because they don't, it makes them (partly) accountable for the current hacks.
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NeuroticFish
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June 28, 2017, 02:09:06 PM |
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Some people will never learn.
Oh, Ive learned that only 2fa is really secure, until it aint. So why is it not mandatory, the whole point of this thread. Of course id like my litecoin back. And I want the fees polo made off my theft back. However, I am simply arguing for 2fa to be mandatory at polo. The fact that it isn't, when this is a repeat problem effecting several people should leave them open to a lawsuit. If you lose your phone, the 2FA will make your life hard. If you only keep pennies on Poloniex, it's not worth it. I did a factory reset for my phone and I kept my exchange accounts without 2FA for some 2-3 days with no 2FA (obviously they were empty too). When the phone came to a good status, I've re-enabled 2FA everywhere. Bottom line: there are moments when it's okay to have no 2FA. Making it mandatory would be stupid. It's the user's problem to deal correctly with this.
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btc_zero_sum
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June 28, 2017, 04:02:42 PM |
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Polo continually is getting hacked.
wrong! it's people and their shitty computers getting hacked. i bet you guys have wallets, login to exchanges and other valuable stuff on the same computer you use to watch porn, open any email attachments and visit other lame site that would refill your stupid windows os with malware and keyloggers yes, start a class action and people will laugh at you
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Peanutbutterpolka (OP)
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June 28, 2017, 04:38:10 PM |
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Reread the thread. I used a fresh boot from a livelinux cd. And used a fresh email account. If email account was hacked why not just withdraw, why trade the value out? No, it seems to me polo help desk or polo is ,has been, and still is hacked. The exact same thing has happened to others. Polo is complicit and negligent. They are complicit cause they made $ off the theft and then investigated themselves and found no wrong doing. And then low and behold it happened again to somone else. Polo continually is getting hacked.
wrong! it's people and their shitty computers getting hacked. i bet you guys have wallets, login to exchanges and other valuable stuff on the same computer you use to watch porn, open any email attachments and visit other lame site that would refill your stupid windows os with malware and keyloggers yes, start a class action and people will laugh at you
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June 29, 2017, 12:17:39 PM |
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Reread the thread. I used a fresh boot from a livelinux cd. And used a fresh email account. If email account was hacked why not just withdraw, why trade the value out? No, it seems to me polo help desk or polo is ,has been, and still is hacked. The exact same thing has happened to others. Polo is complicit and negligent. They are complicit cause they made $ off the theft and then investigated themselves and found no wrong doing. And then low and behold it happened again to somone else. Polo continually is getting hacked.
wrong! it's people and their shitty computers getting hacked. i bet you guys have wallets, login to exchanges and other valuable stuff on the same computer you use to watch porn, open any email attachments and visit other lame site that would refill your stupid windows os with malware and keyloggers yes, start a class action and people will laugh at you which linux distro and which version? did you connect from your house network, from a cafe or from an open network? explain better how you got your funds stolen, even if i really don't like poloniex i hardly believe it's their fault
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xbiv2
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June 29, 2017, 12:21:20 PM |
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Polo continually is getting hacked. User accounts without 2fa are the target. Value in said accounts is traded out to the attackers benefit.
Polo is complacent in this. They know and do nothing. They are enabling this to happen. Most likely they are insolvent and or are in on it. Very shaddy!
Its time for a class action lawsuit.
New support members from moderators have to many rights on getting information. It the problem.
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NUFCrichard
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June 29, 2017, 02:15:52 PM |
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Do you have any information about how many people have been hacked, and whether or not there has been a password leak? The fault could lie with you, we don't know that. I don't know why you don't just activate 2FA, even if it is a just in case.
I hope your password is crazy strong too. I don't keep much money at Poloniex or any other exchange, but I always use 2FA.
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Hueristic
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June 29, 2017, 04:55:46 PM |
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Some people will never learn.
Oh, Ive learned that only 2fa is really secure, until it aint. So why is it not mandatory, the whole point of this thread. Of course id like my litecoin back. And I want the fees polo made off my theft back. However, I am simply arguing for 2fa to be mandatory at polo. The fact that it isn't, when this is a repeat problem effecting several people should leave them open to a lawsuit. So you want to blame the exchange for not forcing you to use the extra security they provide and your answer to that is to force everyone else to have to use it. Fucking ridiculous, your out of your fucking mind. Go back to banks and fuck off. Polo continually is getting hacked.
wrong! it's people and their shitty computers getting hacked. i bet you guys have wallets, login to exchanges and other valuable stuff on the same computer you use to watch porn, open any email attachments and visit other lame site that would refill your stupid windows os with malware and keyloggers yes, start a class action and people will laugh at you QFT
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June 29, 2017, 04:59:54 PM |
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I dont understand why some people dont use the 2fa when its just few clicks away in exchange of haigh security of their account. Personally, i activate 2fa on all necessary accounts i have.
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silvermetal
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June 29, 2017, 05:40:18 PM Last edit: June 29, 2017, 06:23:19 PM by silvermetal |
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So you want to blame the exchange for not forcing you to use the extra security they provide and your answer to that is to force everyone else to have to use it. Fucking ridiculous, your out of your fucking mind. Go back to banks and fuck off.
Well maybe they should leave the option open for idiots like you to switch off the 2fa with the following disclaimer: At your own risk! It is a matter of time that your account will be hacked and your coins stolen. Not everybody knows that nowadays you don't have to provide your mobile number or other private information to enable 2fa. That is why a lot of people have not enabled it. It is the task of a decent and reliable exchange to educate and inform their customers!
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June 29, 2017, 05:44:13 PM |
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Polo continually is getting hacked. User accounts without 2fa are the target. Value in said accounts is traded out to the attackers benefit.
Polo is complacent in this. They know and do nothing. They are enabling this to happen. Most likely they are insolvent and or are in on it. Very shaddy!
Its time for a class action lawsuit.
More ppl need get on 1ex.trade!!! Big vol this summer coming.
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June 29, 2017, 06:18:35 PM |
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How about stop using crooked exchanges ? What you think someone is guessing all those stolen passwords ? Jeez you brats are naive and gullible Didn't learn from GOX, Cryptsy, Mintpal, MCXNow ?
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Hueristic
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June 30, 2017, 12:07:55 AM |
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So you want to blame the exchange for not forcing you to use the extra security they provide and your answer to that is to force everyone else to have to use it. Fucking ridiculous, your out of your fucking mind. Go back to banks and fuck off.
Well maybe they should leave the option open for idiots like you to switch off the 2fa with the following disclaimer: At your own risk! It is a matter of time that your account will be hacked and your coins stolen. Not everybody knows that nowadays you don't have to provide your mobile number or other private information to enable 2fa. That is why a lot of people have not enabled it. It is the task of a decent and reliable exchange to educate and inform their customers! YUP, real idiot here been around here for years and never been hacked. Yup real dumbass. If your a retard your gonna lose your money know matter what. I'd explain that in more detail but I doubt you could grasp it.
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June 30, 2017, 05:04:07 AM Last edit: June 30, 2017, 06:30:40 AM by silvermetal |
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YUP, real idiot here been around here for years and never been hacked. Yup real dumbass. If your a retard your gonna lose your money know matter what. I'd explain that in more detail but I doubt you could grasp it.
If your vocabulary reflects who you are in reality; aggressive and suspicious then I understand that in this crypto world you have never lost a penny. I am happy for you, and hope you can say that after a few years as well. But not everybody is like you, there are also a lot naive and faithful people who should be protected by making 2fa mandatory and by proper education/information. Currently in this wild west of crypto it is steal or get robbed.
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June 30, 2017, 09:06:59 AM |
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How are the accounts getting hacked? Don't they use a hash of the password. I would think that as long as you use a strong password you would be okay. My Keepass generates a 24 random ASCII digit password. That should be more than sufficient.
2FA is a pain because you can't access your account when you travel overseas. I have to use a separate phone for each country due to phone incompatibilities, but I have never seen a 2FA account that allows for that.
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June 30, 2017, 09:45:19 AM |
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Bittrex has been a target since a long time ago, and many people have been hacked. And now Poloniex, the largest and most trusted Exchanger. Poloniex often encourages users to change their passwords regularly to avoid hacked accounts. The use of Authy / 2fa is highly recommended before more people lose money there.
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June 30, 2017, 10:07:49 AM |
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In case any of you were wondering. I boot from a live linux cd before any exchange activity or email and reboot inbetween steps.
And just randomly the account gets hit right after contacting customer support.
I still have the qora in my account, that is evidence of a crime. If they delete it they are destroying evidence.
Polo also made and kept the transaction fees from the theft.
Thats pretty fucked up to make money off of a theft.
I don't believe you. Why not just use 2FA instead of this nonsense then? Unless you use a unique, otherwise unused email, with a unique password, it's a useless excercise. You have to have your email hacked to allow the hacker to recover your poloniex password and do the deed. So with a safe mail, everything is ok? Which provider is the most safe? gmail, hotmail, yahoo, gmx? What do you advise please?
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June 30, 2017, 01:21:52 PM |
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YUP, real idiot here been around here for years and never been hacked. Yup real dumbass. If your a retard your gonna lose your money know matter what. I'd explain that in more detail but I doubt you could grasp it.
If your vocabulary reflects who you are in reality; aggressive and suspicious then I understand that in this crypto world you have never lost a penny. I am happy for you, and hope you can say that after a few years as well. But not everybody is like you, there are also a lot naive and faithful people who should be protected by making 2fa mandatory and by proper education/information. Currently in this wild west of crypto it is steal or get robbed. I don't want a nanny state everywhere I go that is all. I believe in Darwinism and don't think everyone should be forced to do things they don't feel they need to save a few morons (not saying every hacked is a moron just making a general statement). We are Adults that can make our own decisions. Whats right for a few is not always right for all. There is headgear in all Our futures if the insurance companies have their way. How do you like having traffic stopped both ways for a school bus and a16 year old kid jumps out and gets in there car and drives away? I say if they are that dumb by that age they should not breed.
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