What to do with the wall observer thread?

[bitserve]

If option 1 or 3 occur, who are the candidates for new listed owner / mods? Someone please compile a list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character" - "I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable."

[STT]

Thats a very active thread, it would be alot for one person to be totally responsible for it but if the OP is awol then doesnt take much for an improvement. 

I must have high tolerance because Ive seen far worse, depends how badly we rate emotional posts of yippe its gone up.  If thats spam then yea its spammy but thats a kind of gauge to sentiment.   Ditto when people moan so much, btc is never going up again then you know people have given up trying and its some use to know if people somehow view 2000 negatively.   

Going on that its probably going to require two threads.   One actual commentary on price movements,  attempts to label or characterise the market gait.   Another thread for purely people happy its gone up and, to the moon type spam

[freedomno1]

Cross threading

What if I create an Off-Topic -> Chat section which doesn't contribute to post count, is ignored from unreadposts by default, hides signatures, and has some additional unpaid mods pulled from the Wall Observers regulars? It'd be exempt from some of the rules in order to allow for the chatroom-like style.

If we build an Off Topic -> Chat Section would it be able to have a Chartbuddy  posting a price every hour without contributing to the total post count that seems like a viable solution to the spam issue.

Moderation wise, more than one mod would probably need to be recruited to moderate in that thread presuming the traffic it gets.


Other points
Value wise the Backlink data to the Wall Street Observer Thread is significant and reaches outside the forum as a distinct starting point or reference
http://smallseotools.com/backlink-checker/
WSO acts as a Barometer of sentiment and acts as an echoing chamber of Sober Second thought (Senate), and a social thread not all forum threads need to be on the point with technical numbers and data, mindless garbage works for the media we call it celebrity news.
If the question was do people see value in the thread, then we already answered that from the discussion we see here defending it.

On Anarchy
Bitcoin is a Wild West we do need to remember the roots of it, the moderators might be challenged dealing with it but the viewers and readership is organic and stretches beyond the forum as part of the identity of Bitcoin and acts as a place to vent it out so it is productive in the end, we have to factor in Bitcoin culture not just moderation when looking at these type of threads so maintaining its existence in my opinion is valuable for multiple reasons.

[edgar]

surely with 6000+ BTC a bot could be programmed to moderate 90% of the shit.

leaving the 'mods' just 10% of actual 'work'

[Lauda]

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

Who should be placed on that list of people? There are a lot of people in there that are definitely not material for that 'position'. Maybe, Jimbo?

surely with 6000+ BTC a bot could be programmed to moderate 90% of the shit.

What 6k BTC? The answer is still not 'yes' to your suggestion. There's no way that the current AIs are advanced enough to do something like that. BTCT does have at least 1 bot that kills some of the spam, but it does not have any type of learning built into it.

[bitserve]

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

Who should be placed on that list of people? There are a lot of people in there that are definitely not material for that 'position'. Maybe, Jimbo?

At this point I guess it is just a list of CANDIDATES.

Even YOU could put your name on the list if you wish to enjoy the lulz of being one of the least voted for the "position" (assuming there is a voting or some sort of community feedback requested about the self-appointed candidates).

It's just a preliminary list, as requested by Theymos.

First step is to know who would be WILLING to help. Everyone can propose any names... but the candidates need to take a step forward and explicitly express their willingness... And it will be way easier if they just put their name in the list.

[FractalUniverse]

I dont know who all should be on the list, but i know who should not. Anyone who voted for the 5th choice should be disqualified right away

[bitserve]

I dont know who all should be on the list, but i know who should not. Anyone who voted for the 5th choice should be disqualified right away

Confirmed.

[kurious]

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

Who should be placed on that list of people? There are a lot of people in there that are definitely not material for that 'position'. Maybe, Jimbo?

At this point I guess it is just a list of CANDIDATES.

Even YOU could put your name on the list if you wish to enjoy the lulz of being one of the least voted for the "position" (assuming there is a voting or some sort of community feedback requested about the self-appointed candidates).

It's just a preliminary list, as requested by Theymos. First step is to know who would be WILLING to help.

Jimbo seems to be happy on Meuh's new thread. I went on to hint to him he should put himself up for the role, but he hasn't said anything.

People do need to put themselves forward, of course, but Theymos seems to have agreed by asking for candidates that the thread regulars will need to approve.

As to what the thread should be, I think it only will work if it looks like and feels like the old one.  There are already 'no nonsense' WO threads emerging and as long as some want them, I am sure they will survive and there is no reason why they should not.  Theymos just wants the original thread to be watched over in a way that doesn't use too much of his moderation resources.

The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but its anarchy was its character.

[bitserve]

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

Who should be placed on that list of people? There are a lot of people in there that are definitely not material for that 'position'. Maybe, Jimbo?

At this point I guess it is just a list of CANDIDATES.

Even YOU could put your name on the list if you wish to enjoy the lulz of being one of the least voted for the "position" (assuming there is a voting or some sort of community feedback requested about the self-appointed candidates).

It's just a preliminary list, as requested by Theymos. First step is to know who would be WILLING to help.

Jimbo seems to be happy on Meuh's new thread. I went on to hint to him he should put himself up for the role, but he hasn't said anything.

People do need to put themselves forward, of course, but Theymos seems to have agreed by asking for candidates that the thread regulars will need to approve.

As to what the thread should be, I think it only will work if it looks like and feels like the old one.  There are already 'no nonsense' WO threads emerging and as long as some want them, I am sure they will survive and there is no reason why they should not.  Theymos just wants the original thread to be watched over in a way that doesn't use too much of his moderation resources.

The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but its anarchy was its character.

Put your name on the list. Is not that hard, just go quote the message with the list of candidates and add:

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character"

... Or whatever you think would define your "moderation style".

I am not going to actively run the list, just wanted to have the ball started.

[deepceleron]

Disable signatures and activity numbers on posts, to reduce the incentive for mindless garbage filling up neverending threads and driving long-term members away from the once-useful forum.

[kurious]

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

Who should be placed on that list of people? There are a lot of people in there that are definitely not material for that 'position'. Maybe, Jimbo?

At this point I guess it is just a list of CANDIDATES.

Even YOU could put your name on the list if you wish to enjoy the lulz of being one of the least voted for the "position" (assuming there is a voting or some sort of community feedback requested about the self-appointed candidates).

It's just a preliminary list, as requested by Theymos. First step is to know who would be WILLING to help.

Jimbo seems to be happy on Meuh's new thread. I went on to hint to him he should put himself up for the role, but he hasn't said anything.

People do need to put themselves forward, of course, but Theymos seems to have agreed by asking for candidates that the thread regulars will need to approve.

As to what the thread should be, I think it only will work if it looks like and feels like the old one.  There are already 'no nonsense' WO threads emerging and as long as some want them, I am sure they will survive and there is no reason why they should not.  Theymos just wants the original thread to be watched over in a way that doesn't use too much of his moderation resources.

The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but its anarchy was its character.

Put your name on the list. Is not that hard, just go quote the message with the list of candidates and add:

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character"

... Or whatever you think would define your "moderation style".

I am not going to actively run the list, just wanted to have the ball started.

I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable.

Ironically I am sort of suspicious of anyone who would want to be 'The Candidate' as I have a distrust of anyone who seeks power, because they are usually just the sort of person who I don't want to have it.

EDIT: that said, the list you have so far has no one I would object to on it. I am happy to offer help to any / all of them. I can do European time zone early shift as I always read forums early every morning witb my coffee to catch up.

[bitserve]

I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable.

Ironically I am sort of suspicious of anyone who would want to be 'The Candidate' as I have a distrust of anyone who seeks power, because they are usually just the sort of person who I don't want to have it.

Yep. That's why I am asking you to put your name on the list if you are willing to help in any way. You can clearly state in the list any restriction on your willingness to help. Let's get this rolling.

[kurious]

I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable.

Ironically I am sort of suspicious of anyone who would want to be 'The Candidate' as I have a distrust of anyone who seeks power, because they are usually just the sort of person who I don't want to have it.

Yep. That's why I am asking you to put your name on the list if you are willing to help in any way. You can clearly state in the list any restriction on your willingness to help. Let's get this rolling.

OK, since you are helpfully compiling it, consider me added as a helper.  I can hardly advocate the cause of saving the WO and refuse to help.

'Happy to help any team on a part time basis if it will keep the WO going in a fashion as close to its original anarchic form as possible'

[bitserve]

If option 1 or 3 occur, who are the candidates for new listed owner / mods? Someone please compile a list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character" - "I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable."

[kurious]

If option 1 or 3 occur, who are the candidates for new listed owner / mods? Someone please compile a list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "'Happy to help any team on a part time basis if it will keep the WO going in a fashion as close to its original anarchic form as possible'"

Better shorter.

[bitserve]

Now I would like to also see in the list marcus_agustus, Bitcoinnewmagazine, infofront, etc... but it is up to them to express their willingness to help by putting their names on the list.

[kurious]

Now I would like to also see in the list marcus_agustus, Bitcoinnewmagazine, infofront, etc... but it is up to them to express their willingness to help by putting their names on the list.

I posted on their WO threads when Theymos was seeking candidates, might need to give 'em a nudge as if the WO is revived their own threads may fade in any case.

[bitserve]

If option 1 or 3 occur, who are the candidates for new listed owner / mods? Someone please compile a list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "'Happy to help any team on a part time basis if it will keep the WO going in a fashion as close to its original anarchic form as possible'"

Erkallys - "I candidate if this is needed. At least I have no hatred toward me as well as any fanboy."


P.S.: Missed a candidate (Erkallys) that already expressed his willingness to help. Added him to the list. But please, candidates add yourselves, thanks

[Erkallys]

If option 1 or 3 occur, who are the candidates for new listed owner / mods? Someone please compile a list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "'Happy to help any team on a part time basis if it will keep the WO going in a fashion as close to its original anarchic form as possible'"

Erkallys - "I candidate if this is needed. At least I have no hatred toward me as well as any fanboy."


P.S.: Missed a candidate (Erkallys) that already expressed his willingness to help. Added him to the list. But please, candidates add yourselves, thanks

Thank you for seeing me. About your requests :  I would not be too strict on moderation, and I am available all day long.