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July 17, 2017, 08:31:32 PM
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What indicates that you are in hell? Wasn't the devil just one of god's subjects who attempted to overthrow his superior? It's similar to governments and their citizens. Just a thought. Any others? I'd love to hear what people have to say! Please keep an open mind and NO negativity, this is not meant to be an argumentative/pot-stirring post. Simply answer the question in the subject with other opinions in mind. Thanks!

Satan is subordinated to god, and come to show the way to the more lost  Grin

You are in hell when you stop fearing god, and need to be pushed back on the right track Smiley

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July 17, 2017, 08:34:10 PM
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If you believe that you'll get heaven if you did good deeds in your life then there will be hell to for all of your sins. I think people lost that feeling about being good and most of us just living a robotic life where we only think about ourselves. If there is a hell then most of us will be there for sure.

God sent satan to job to try his faith too , even if his life was full of good deeds Smiley

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July 17, 2017, 09:25:20 PM
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I don't know about you but I'm definitely in hell,

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July 17, 2017, 09:28:52 PM
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As I said right here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1995126.msg19870338#msg19870338, Hell exists, and in this life we are way far away from it. But death might send you there in an instant.

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July 17, 2017, 09:39:02 PM
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The whole basic idea of Hell in the religious books, is a place of hot fire and burning torment. Are we in Hell? Consider...


In metaphoric /  alchemical term, fire is agent of transformation / purification.

Im not sure if it's to be taken litterally in this context. Literal interpretation of religious books is not always the good way to understand it.

In Islamic / Arabic litterature there is more this aspect of pain as alchemical agent to deal with the hearth of criminal who are unable to learn from the books, which work like calcination to transform them.

From the book of understanding they explain these different way to get the understanding of religion, which in worst case scenario resolve to pain as calcination agent.


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July 17, 2017, 09:47:30 PM
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The whole basic idea of Hell in the religious books, is a place of hot fire and burning torment. Are we in Hell? Consider...


In metaphoric /  alchemical term, fire is agent of transformation / purification.

Im not sure if it's to be taken litterally in this context. Literal interpretation of religious books is not always the good way to understand it.

In Islamic / Arabic litterature there is more this aspect of pain as alchemical agent to deal with the hearth of criminal who are unable to learn from the books, which work like calcination to transform them.

From the book of understanding they explain these different way to get the understanding of religion, which in worst case scenario resolve to pain as calcination agent.


If a person is dead, you can burn him all day long, and he can't feel a thing.

The point of Hell is that the people who go there will feel the pain of continual fire throughout their whole bodies. Even if it doesn't literally happen that they are physically burning, they will feel as though they were. And that is what really counts.

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July 17, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2017, 10:15:52 PM by IadixDev
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Need to read jabir ibn hayyan  Grin he is the master on this sort of things Cheesy he also invented chemistry Smiley



http://www.ptmistlberger.com/psychospiritual-alchemy.php

The key to alchemy is found in the word transmutation, a word that in its original Latin meaning refers to total change. Physically this denotes a change of the properties of matter, and thus of substance; psycho-spiritually, it refers to inner transformation—in specific, certain actions to aid in freeing the spiritual essence that is ‘trapped’ within (echoing the Gnostic view that spirit is trapped in matter). This idea had its basis in the ancient belief that within the Earth ‘grew’ metals and that, given enough time, these metals would ultimately become gold. Nature was seen as fundamentally engaged in a process of evolution, and the essential idea of alchemy was to speed this process up—in short, to save time.

Spiritual alchemy is concerned with the transmutation of the personality and its structures, so as to allow for the light of unobstructed consciousness and pure Being to be directly known. The direct knowing of pure Being is gnosis, Self-realization. Spiritual alchemy is thus a means by which we re-structure our personality and the various levels of our identification with it, so as to realize the infinite potential of our true being. It is essentially a comprehensive roadmap, using colourful and sophisticated symbols, detailing the means and steps by which we get ourselves ‘out of our own way’ and allow our highest and best destiny to unfold.




Fire: In esoteric studies all elements carry great significance, but in the realm of alchemy, it may be said that fire rules. It is the key, the mastery of which has long been held to be of prime importance by alchemists and shamans of old (as well as by smiths and potters, craftsmen whose work was related in many ways to alchemy). This is because fire is the element of transmutation par excellence, the key to changing things from one state to another—beginning with the most obvious examples of the power of the Sun and the core of our planet to heat the surface of the Earth, allowing for the possibility for life as we know it to develop.12 Of the four qualities mentioned above—hot, cold, wet, and dry—only two, hot and cold, are foundational (being found in space beyond our planet), and as cold is but the absence of heat, in the final analysis only fire (hot) is the essential transformational force. As Titus Burckhardt put it.

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July 17, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
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We are already there  Roll Eyes
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July 17, 2017, 11:22:44 PM
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With Etherium falling in price?
Yeah, the hell is real, guys!
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July 17, 2017, 11:51:23 PM
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With Etherium falling in price?
Yeah, the hell is real, guys!

Dont loose faith  Grin

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July 17, 2017, 11:56:19 PM
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Hell do exist.Hell is only dedicated to those who deserve it
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July 18, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
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Hi, we already there. Tongue
yes, me too, i think we are already there because of the situation happen in every country, its full of darkness everywhere.

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