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July 03, 2017, 06:28:12 PM
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The purpose of this thread is to document the outstanding IOTA manual claims, and the response, if any, they have received from the IOTA team.

The IOTA team has ignored my request to make the process transparent and to publish a list of these claims with the status of each of them. Since they also do not respond to emails or PMs, and there is no clear and up to date information regarding what constitutes a valid claim request, there is a real danger that after the arbitrarily set deadline of July 11th many of the manual claims will be rejected as not submitted in time, or not containing enough information.

I am asking all participants in the IOTA ICO who still did not receive their IOTA, despite having submitted a claim, to document this fact by posting in this thread:

1. The IOTA Genesis account address to which you hold the seed (NOT the seed itself).

2. A copy of the claim(s) you have submitted (with any confidential info removed).

Participating in this thread does NOT constitute a claim submission. You still need to submit your claim to the IOTA team, but posting in this thread should help document what and when you have submitted.

To reduce noise and trolling, I will be moderating this thread and will allow only posts from IOTA stakeholders (containing the above info), or official responses from the IOTA team.

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Since they also do not respond to emails or PMs, and there is no clear and up to date information regarding what constitutes a valid claim request, there is a real danger that after the arbitrarily set deadline of July 11th many of the manual claims will be rejected as not submitted in time, or not containing enough information.


Don't hold your breath. I went from excited about this project to circumspect to outright doubtful after reviewing their github, their slack discussions, their "roadmap", their website and the inflated claims surrounding this project.
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The lists below can be useful:


Unreclaimed during round 1 (some entries can be already reclaimed, but if you don't see your address here then you should start worrying)

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July 03, 2017, 08:29:00 PM
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to me IOTA is same category as EOS.

both totally do not deserve their market cap. both will cost a lot of people a lot of money.

do not place buy orders on these things. please.

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Not sure I want to document my address here, but it appears on the "Unreclaimed during round 1" list CfB posted. My email to David (sent June 13th), which I haven't received a response to read as follows:

Hi David,

If you get time I need help with a manual claim.

Old Seed:
<redacted>

Old Address:
<redacted>

New Address:
<redacted>

Thank you for your help.

----------------

I've been avoiding sending follow up emails/PMs on slack for now, but the 11th is getting too close for comfort.
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Code:
AUQZDYDVKPNZLJY9AQNDJXCSFCQYSCUMSJEGDZPPYDOJDQORONUZ9JDVCBTNCUJNJONUHEWJBRDGHMWYQ 3 800 000 000 000

Code:
ICEJMO9GKWTKUCHMTBEMKXAHZUQKMBVCEBUYSDAFXIJLKSYIWROWYNAKERDQQGRMVRTNHFLG9OHBVYGQG 3 800 000 000 000

Code:
IMOZNQCCACHPXUAHCDKYBGBUDICHSFVPKQJFLH9WQBGHCOBEYDONKZBYXKWXJBEJKKPSBO9CDTZCLINOT 3 800 000 000 000

Code:
KUGJYRNQSGKUQPNBJHSPUGWIADL9XWCDOHTDFMSROHSWPYTVMYVDXEHGPUT99Q9ASJKONUBYAOLWEHCHW 3 800 000 000 000

Code:
KUS9DIMOORMNFUELCUJQEDODJVDFDPOHUDVQAXKGJRCMUKSMANTNBKERTG9DTHWOFOFGMOVNNJYXIGFBG 3 800 000 000 000

3.8 Ti. Around 1 400 000 $ in today prices.
A bunch of IOTA millionaires waiting their stakes Cheesy
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1. My genesis address is HBDGATVTSXFDAJLNTNRKEEOTLENQDOUIDM9YEQCRDVYZXNCLXOCDBSISNXNWGIOOXKSDUVEIPJANVYZ KI.

2. I first emailed contact@iotatoken.com on 21 Aug 2016, then again on 10 Jun 2017, and on 29 Jun 2017, this time also to david@iota.org. I never got a response. The full text of my last email, quoting my previous emails:

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29.06.2017, 02:17, "F O" <fokokof@y.......ru>:

Based on recent advice from the iota forum, I am forwarding my claim request also to david@iota.org.

Note that with the latest 2.3.0 version the address I obtain using my new seed is QONITOLNYGCDSXOOMG9VQGDRCMEDTZLDRJKIG9IHJHZDIZHWRRQSSPFGNKSIWXMOUYRVIQXIAMTUTZM RNMOEKWJBKZ.

My genesis seed and addresses generated with the last year version are included below.


10.06.2017, 10:22, "F O" <fokokof@y.......ru>:
> Hello,
>
> I don't see any of the addresses I sent you included in the latest snapshot. I also asked you on slack a few days ago if you need any further information from me, such as addresses generated with a newer version, but got no response. What should I do to get my manual claim processed?
>
> 21.08.2016, 22:39, "F O" <fokokof@y.......ru>:
>> My old seed is [removed] and my genesis account is HBDGATVTSXFDAJLNTNRKEEOTLENQDOUIDM9YEQCRDVYZXNCLXOCDBSISNXNWGIOOXKSDUVEIPJANVYZ KI.
>>
>> The addresses I have generated with a new seed:
>>
>> MOEKWJBKZLIKHWBJ9NXCUPHECCH9MVDQLSOLSYD9NOYDBZYMV9HMJE9NHOBTZUDRKXCRLPS9EGIOZ9K WMCPSLWMOWC
>>
>> CBHBVTYSYPEKCMRROJOESQKPZXYNPAVPTORZYDMUMANRWPPILWPRVNGYKODIPOCTLTTGVBAUCHXXAYV QTWMRZDVVFO
>>
>> UYV9HJIZENLDE9LNHAFPVOCFJCXUQBPNKZUQCBIPOWRLQRLRGSGHEBJDYUJRFICGHJHFQEAL9XQYXIK XNUOPMVOWCY
>>
>> I do not want to donate to the foundation or the big deal.

I also tried to contact @david on slack, on 5 Jun 2017, again no response:
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Hello, I submitted my manual claim to contact@iotatoken.com some time last summer, haven't got a response. My genesis account is HBDGATVTSXFDAJLNTNRKEEOTLENQDOUIDM9YEQCRDVYZXNCLXOCDBSISNXNWGIOOXKSDUVEIPJANVYZ KI and my email is fokokof@y.......ru. Will my claim be processed soon or do you need more information from me? Trying to use the claim process in the light client gives me empty seed errors. Do I need to create new addresses with the latest version and send them to you?
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I have genesis account LRDDFGQBQAXLMWMRFXNRVKEHKHH9ORDNSHIKOZCXICPQVNVYFRGYURYTEKHOIIHRJTIJVDVTPBPPZKC DV.

I do see in list of manual claims included in last snapshot the address that I sent to David in 2016: FIEE9MMWGAHWFMGVOLQOSIEMIWEEXUMWZJ9ERQB9AUFFSUTJSATLQXO9BCSFQLVLAXAPEVEEBUCVUFL QX.

However, I can't access this address now because 2.3.0 uses a different address generation method. When I log in, my balance is 0. The tool to reclaim within the wallet is gone. Am I facing another manual claim process? I did verify that I have saved my new seed correctly and can still generate the FIEE9M... address using an older version.

Below is my one-way communication with contact@iotatoken.com, last one also sent to david@iota.org on June 29.

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Hi,

My balance is still zero. The address I get using 2.3.0 is:

DMUKAHAITVNQIPVDSEUGXWHRALAPJOMSANLPRRKWHRKKCLNW9NA9PXIUFFXBDDWONDQNRGBLUYPHEYBSPFIEE9MMWG

How can I get access to my IOTA? Is there an updated claim procedure?



On Tue, February 14, 2017 23:54, iota8888@cmail.nu wrote:


> Hello again,
>
> Can you please process my manual claim? With the latest wallet my balance is still 0.
>
>
> On Sat, August 27, 2016 06:37, iota8888@cmail.nu wrote:
>
>   
> > I still have not received my claim after contacting you on slack, here is my data again:
> >
> > Original seed: <removed>
> >
> > New addresses generated from a new seed:
> > FIEE9MMWGAHWFMGVOLQOSIEMIWEEXUMWZJ9ERQB9AUFFSUTJSATLQXO9BCSFQLVLAXAPEVEEBUCVUFLQXCOEILBWWK
.....
> >
> > I will donate 7% for the Foundation, and 2% for the big deal.
> > 
>
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1. The IOTA Genesis account address to which you hold the seed (NOT the seed itself).
CSYCDHQWIGJTUN9F9GKNUOORTWJXKYOOD9CRNNLLWCNFGXICQQUDGLZQAGALVQHINMIFBSRYGEXPRTW HA

2. A copy of the claim(s) you have submitted (with any confidential info removed).






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My Iota genesis adress
XPIEMH9PPEVHKI9UUPIUHCUSTAIDFNDEGRWMRUDIQYKOKAHVQXPFO9SSIDESXLCNJJDHMYQ9RYPVEYO AN

I talked to David on slack in 2016 but the claiming process didn't work. Now I tried again to contact him:
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My Iota genesis adress:
LXTWVDWODYVEFUNWFVN9SIUAJSOX9HVEKR9YQKGGBXQVHYTSQVFWRIWNAAVTZJVPWE99DPOFHOHMR9T DT

Did send an email to : davidsoenst@gmail.com on 26-6-2017

Hi David,
My old seed:
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
please send to my new adres:
MQAWBQWGGRRBIXSHP9YUESMRUGOZDONSRUQBHMZLBRJOQZAGPBXDYZKNHCD9MROIGKDSYXCHKTYGLIH UFSJBWFRROL

greetings

David did talk to me on slack till the 17th june 2017


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has anyone got an answer or reclaimed his IOTA to this day?
thx Smiley


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I have written several emails to contact@iotatoken.com
The first on 10/17/2016
My seed is: xxxxx
And my wallet is: xxxxx

And as in the instructions of the iota page to make the manual claim it is necessary to send mail to david@iota.org with deadline until July 11, as I have sent one again today

As a bad solution could be to recover even if only half and the other to be donated to the foundation.
At least we would recover something ....
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My genesis account is QGZCBBYF9CCDCPNVECZAGPLRYK9GPCNCFZEFOLWBTYYHVYWBBBMQOTLYNONKWMCTAWQTHMSDQEW9RTV VO.

As you can see, I wrote to contact@iotatoken.com on 22 Aug 2016, 14 Oct 2016, and 8 March 2017. They did include the address from my first claim in the 2.3.0 snapshot, YYVOIYDHRMYWHTCIDVLNWEESKQKHKPPPZIQHKULUC9ZCHXFKYCI9JDQH9DBRKLEEGRYNL9LYMPKPSTA JDMQSTMTCMH. But with the change in addressing, I no longer get the same address and may require another manual intervention.

Today I also forwarded this to david@iota.org.


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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 08:30:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: nutcase@XXXXXXX
To: contact@iotatoken.com, come-from-beyond@XXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: manual claim


With 2.3.0, the first address opened by my seed is
KYZPVEIUPUAGA9YPPIEWUCTOV9TYABGLTHCGFYNKTMDRLVT9NHQSCXGMDMUSPL9XNNWF9YAIVBXFNGA NSQ9GGHHJDY.

The list of addresses I sent you back in August, quoted below, of which
the first is
Q9GGHHJDYXWUIHTVXPYXRWYQMVFZYBDQLONYGZL9GZIQQEGUXRLOJTRPNLCJEBTA99MGAJUHJOZBJZN L9AQUCHKBHI,
and the one I see included in the snapshot is
YYVOIYDHRMYWHTCIDVLNWEESKQKHKPPPZIQHKULUC9ZCHXFKYCI9JDQH9DBRKLEEGRYNL9LYMPKPSTA JDMQSTMTCMH,
was generated with the latest as of that time 1.0.x release, which was
using the old address generation that required a claim process in the
wallet.

Now it seems to me that my manually claimed iota have been assigned to
this old scheme address. Since the in-wallet claim procedure has been
removed, how do I claim them out of there?



On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, nutcase@XXXXXXX wrote:

> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 19:13:16 +0000 (UTC)
> From: nutcase@XXXXXXX
> To: contact@iotatoken.com
> Subject: Re: manual claim
>
>
> When will my claim be processed?
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016, nutcase@XXXXXXX wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: nutcase@XXXXXXX
>> To: contact@iotatoken.com
>> Subject: Re: manual claim
>>
>> Any update? My addresses still don't appear in the published snapshot.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, nutcase@XXXXXXX wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:38:38 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: nutcase@XXXXXXX
>>> To: contact@iotatoken.com
>>> Subject: manual claim
>>>
>>> Here is my info for manual claim:
>>>
>>> old seed: ..................
>>>
>>>
>>> addresses generated from my new seed:
>>>
Q9GGHHJDYXWUIHTVXPYXRWYQMVFZYBDQLONYGZL9GZIQQEGUXRLOJTRPNLCJEBTA99MGAJUHJOZB
JZNL9AQUCHKBHI
>>>
>>>
WRUWBCJVLZEEBMXYJRJBJHMZDYTDKRGYTMYBJSZFLDEBABEDWJQSVWMNLIWCUOWKFYUISZSV9WBC
SOYEWWOMGYQMDJ
>>>
>>>
NMJMEMRUWBXBHWZEQYBWCAYGSWKSTRHNZJQXVZNCTJVVWVPGES9AZBYIIZWAMDBVPZRZKVUMMAVN
SFUJEIDATPLGVR
>>>
>>>
MYCYKHUKASTDAAKFPCKFQIBZQAP9UCWHGVTDGP9CZHIMWFTCBRFRJOXABEUSVATOUCNIFQNYHXPR
NGLBVFAR9KUUSK
>>>
>>>
YYVOIYDHRMYWHTCIDVLNWEESKQKHKPPPZIQHKULUC9ZCHXFKYCI9JDQH9DBRKLEEGRYNL9LYMPKP
STAJDMQSTMTCMH
>>>
>>> donating 5% to Foundation, not donating to Big deal
>>>
>>

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Hi, I see my address in the list of unclaimed during phase one: AIMKHCCCAMYRDDEYELGDYJKZJZYHXLOAISXFKEHWGXARVKBCWLXTDFKTCYJML9GTKNWPUMPQWEYFPWH LZ
I tried to contact contact@iota.org, here are the messages.
I think what I mentioned in the first email was the address that was generated using my passphrase in a website, I did that on 30/12/2015.
   
Jun 8
   
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Hello,
I think I already claimed the IOTAs before, by going on a very simple website, inputting the custom password and getting back an IOTA address, but when I access it from a light client my balance shows as 0 in the address that was given me.
Scott ...
   
Jun 18
   
to me
Please generate more addresses within the light client - eventually, your balance should show.

   
Jun 19
   
to Scott
Hello,
I tried creating like 20 of them but still no luck. Should I keep trying? Is there anything else I can do?
Scott ...
   
Jun 19
   
to me
Please ask for technical support on the official IOTA Slack. Join channel #help 

http://slack.iota.org

Many thanks a good luck!


I tried to generate addresses with my seed but balance is still 0, I also tried with the procedure in the wallet when it was available but nothing.
I asked a couple times on slack but got no answer, today I tried again and they suggested me to email David, and so I did.
I emailed David today, waiting for an answer.
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1. The IOTA Genesis account address to which you hold the seed (NOT the seed itself).

DITBSJKNONVDHSVFXPSGBEDXUZGRULFFCMMHDX9EPWSI9ATWFTFTLAMLIIMOPDNJLDSYVEIEUBGIEMA PG

2. A copy of the claim(s) you have submitted (with any confidential info removed).

To: david @ iota.org
Date: June 10th, 2017

Here is my old seed :

Here is the new destination address : MHSXJVEAZHODDNS9OMF9IBZMVPXXUCNDKBWQG9JJSSHFIBGDSHGHXAQFHV9JSQHKNFGWDTYNAWDZGYL C9GOMEBIDZB

It is the 3rd time I give you that, 2 previous time on slack, user "xxxxxxxxxx", first time exactly 6 month ago ! Last time, yesterday.

Please CONFIRM, reception, as I already asked for such confirmation 2 times.
You told me not to worry, that it was ok. But now that I discover with the snapshot that it was not ok, I also find though comments on forum that the protocol had to be done trough email ?!?

So here is an email sent before 11th of July.


Regards

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

PS The old seed correspond to DITBSJKNONVDHSVFXPSGBEDXUZGRULFFCMMHDX9EPWSI9ATWFTFTLAMLIIMOPDNJLDSYVEIEUBGIEMA PG and the amount (according CFB) is 7170534010684 but I expect you to verify that.


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From: david @ iota.org
Date: June 10th, 2017

I told you and everyone 100 times (which has been echoed by the community) that you had to send it to EMAIL, not on Slack. Slack deletes after 10 000 msgs. We have 5000 people in our Slack. I receive 50 request at least daily. I am leading a project of thousands of people, I got hundreds of tasks each week, I cannot remember any one request, hence email.

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wow Shocked this thing screams scam!
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July 09, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
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This thread has now collected evidence and documented the experience of several IOTA purchasers whose manual claims have been ignored for almost one year now. We have seen that contrary to the statements by the IOTA team that it is the users' fault for leaving the claim till the last moment, most such users have been trying to claim multiple times since last year, never to receive a response. Others, whose claims may have formally been processed, still can't get hold of their IOTA because the software now doesn't let them access the same addresses. A few users I have talked to privately prefer not to post their case in public, so the number of submitted but ignored claims is actually higher.

Several of the claimants I have been in talks with are more than willing to consider taking legal action (and unlike me, do not care to remain anonymous). The IOTA team is no longer unaccountable. Unlike the common scams here, they do have a business presence in the real world and have even managed to attract traditional VC investors. So I would be curious to find out how would Jamie Burke and his partners from Outlier Ventures feel about having their investment in IOTA spent on fending off lawsuits, settling legal claims, and fixing bad PR, instead of on technical and business development? Will they like the fact that the names of Outlier Ventures and IOTA now appear together in the context of scam accusations and lawsuit threats? I plan to ask them. In fact, it may be a good idea for all of you with outstanding manual claims to also copy them, in one last claim request. Their contact info is conveniently posted at https://outlierventures.io/#contact and they proudly (for now) list IOTA as a startup they have invested in. And unlike David, who may just say he never got your request, those guys are used to being accountable and wouldn't take the risk of ignoring you.

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July 10, 2017, 07:39:27 AM
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This thread has now collected evidence and documented the experience of several IOTA purchasers whose manual claims have been ignored for almost one year now. We have seen that contrary to the statements by the IOTA team that it is the users' fault for leaving the claim till the last moment, most such users have been trying to claim multiple times since last year, never to receive a response. Others, whose claims may have formally been processed, still can't get hold of their IOTA because the software now doesn't let them access the same addresses. A few users I have talked to privately prefer not to post their case in public, so the number of submitted but ignored claims is actually higher.

Several of the claimants I have been in talks with are more than willing to consider taking legal action (and unlike me, do not care to remain anonymous). The IOTA team is no longer unaccountable. Unlike the common scams here, they do have a business presence in the real world and have even managed to attract traditional VC investors. So I would be curious to find out how would Jamie Burke and his partners from Outlier Ventures feel about having their investment in IOTA spent on fending off lawsuits, settling legal claims, and fixing bad PR, instead of on technical and business development? Will they like the fact that the names of Outlier Ventures and IOTA now appear together in the context of scam accusations and lawsuit threats? I plan to ask them. In fact, it may be a good idea for all of you with outstanding manual claims to also copy them, in one last claim request. Their contact info is conveniently posted at https://outlierventures.io/#contact and they proudly (for now) list IOTA as a startup they have invested in. And unlike David, who may just say he never got your request, those guys are used to being accountable and wouldn't take the risk of ignoring you.

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July 10, 2017, 07:40:36 AM
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Here's where I am at with a manual claim. I bought IOTA tokens in the crowdsale with BTC and JINN and verified my BTC and NXT addresses in the 1st claim. My balance was included in the original genesis, with my private seed generating the public address. My original address is listed in the Unreclaimed during round 1 list posted by Come-from-Beyond above.

I believed my IOTA tokens would be safe on an IOTA address corresponding to my seed from then, but somewhere along the way, they were not included in an IOTA snapshot it seems. I'm not sure on the details of how this happened.

In February 2017 I tried to use the tokens tied to my seed but got the "Empty Seed" error from the IOTA client when I tried to claim them. I talked to people in the Slack and they told me to get in touch with David. I did, and he instructed me to send an email to contact@iotatoken.com containing my original seed and a new IOTA address for the tokens to be claimed to.

When the June 9th 2017 IOTA snapshot happened, the manual claim balance for my address was not included. By his comments that day when asked why some manual claims weren't included, I believe David searched the email account(s) for emails with "claim" in the title but I was not instructed to include that.

I have sent another manual claim to David's email address david@iota.org this time, this time using the word "Claim" in the title. I asked David to confirm he had received it and he confirmed it. Just now I have asked him to confirm that the claim will be included in the next snapshot , scheduled for July 11th 2017 (as far as I'm aware).

It's been a process that has been at times confusing and frustrating, but I believe David will come through and include manual claim balances.
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