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September 02, 2013, 01:23:27 PM
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If anyone wants my 20 chips from batch 2, please let me know.

I have them set to be assembled with Burnin which can be kept if you wish.

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September 02, 2013, 02:46:35 PM
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I take the miner, hoping that there are no further delays Undecided
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September 02, 2013, 07:16:44 PM
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any news from john k.?
We have to be fast and ask for a refund before this wednesday, or we could not receive it anymore


update:
zefir just received 3 of his batches refunded:
Refund Payment Notification: received refunds for 3 out of 8 batches from my group buy, see https://blockchain.info/es/tx/a69aac51f0d8ebaca5edef26c3038c81fdfbcb2703bdc088f69e49b1eaa571f1

Thank you Avalon for allowing me to limit the loss of 60+ miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts. This would have been a great success for the community if we had this level of customer support all the time, hope you guys are going to keep it up.

Good Luck!
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September 02, 2013, 10:12:19 PM
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Hi all

Just a few things:
1. I have not heard back from John K today about the refund request. Yesterday, after I contacted him, he replied saying he was going to put the refund request for our batch 1 asap. So I would guess he already did and we have now just to wait for AVALON to come back to us.
2. As far as I know, the escrow fee is not refundable. John K did his job and due to the AVALON mess he will have to keep still working by processing the refund to more than 120 different buyers.
3. Contrary to what a few are suggesting, I did not keep a 3% fee from batch 1. If you do the math, considering the chips price structure we used e.g. 0.08, 0.081 and 0.082 btc per chip I ended up which just about  2% too. However, due to trying to speed up the placing of the order I asked John K to buy the chips when we met the exact cost of chips + delivery + escrow fee. Therefore, I just ended up with a few chips as commission.
4. Expecting that nekonos and/or me receive some sort of compensation thanks to the second batch is not very optimistic. After all this fiasco I first need to see the chips in my doorstep to believe. Other assemblers are not even refunding full price for the assembly service customers paid for in advance. And this for me makes fully sense as all the time spent and money invested have to somehow be compensated.
5. After I receive news from John K that the refund has been received I will give 48 hours to everyone to ensure that the BTC addreess you used to make the payment and which you can see in the Bizwoo GB website is still valid for you to receive the refund.

Cheers.
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September 02, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
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I would advise bizwoo and nekonos to publish a donation address and to sum up an estimation of the time and money they invested for batch 1 so that people might have a better idea of what was involved. How much margin did bizwoo get if any (was the margin only in personal chips or partially ?), how time-consuming was the GP setup? how much did nekonos spend on prototypes/components and how much time did he spend working on them?

I know I would tip if I knew more about that and considered they lost more than myself (from memory I have already tipped at least 4 developers, some of them multiple times just for having developed mining related software).

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September 02, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
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Hi all

Just a few things:
1. I have not heard back from John K today about the refund request. Yesterday, after I contacted him, he replied saying he was going to put the refund request for our batch 1 asap. So I would guess he already did and we have now just to wait for AVALON to come back to us.
2. As far as I know, the escrow fee is not refundable. John K did his job and due to the AVALON mess he will have to keep still working by processing the refund to more than 120 different buyers.
3. Contrary to what a few are suggesting, I did not keep a 3% fee from batch 1. If you do the math, considering the chips price structure we used e.g. 0.08, 0.081 and 0.082 btc per chip I ended up which just about  2% too. However, due to trying to speed up the placing of the order I asked John K to buy the chips when we met the exact cost of chips + delivery + escrow fee. Therefore, I just ended up with a few chips as commission.
4. Expecting that nekonos and/or me receive some sort of compensation thanks to the second batch is not very optimistic. After all this fiasco I first need to see the chips in my doorstep to believe. Other assemblers are not even refunding full price for the assembly service customers paid for in advance. And this for me makes fully sense as all the time spent and money invested have to somehow be compensated.
5. After I receive news from John K that the refund has been received I will give 48 hours to everyone to ensure that the BTC addreess you used to make the payment and which you can see in the Bizwoo GB website is still valid for you to receive the refund.

Cheers.


OK, So as we the batch#1 group buyers are paying you for services rendered, could you please specify the exact amount?

But anyway... what's very important now is to contact JohnK to find out IF he requested and confirmed the refund payment address.

Thank You.

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September 03, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
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John, good that you've landed safely. Safe moving. And do add back our local BTC whatsapp group once you get a local cell number.


Done, cheers.

Got all escrow releases done so far, resuming to accept regular escrows after tomorrow once I figure out my safe and stuff. Chip GB refund requests sent in for those who've voted to do so.

Good. Step 2 done.

@bizwoo.. My Wallet address is correct.

Cheers.
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September 03, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
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If anyone in batch 1 gets refunders remorse and fancies getting chips, I was in batch 2 so was unable to have mine refunded.. Let me know and I will hook you up with the ones i've ordered for cheap.

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September 03, 2013, 12:04:25 PM
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Chip GB refund requests sent in for those who've voted to do so.


@Bizwoo, @John (John K.) - "for those who've voted to do so". So, the rest of us actually will get chips?

Isn't it better to place whole GB1 refund request as majority voted (or it's not a majority at all?) Is there any graph of "voting"?

Now I'm really starting to worry. Part of buyers will be refunded (hopefully - as they want), and then what? I though there is no posibility of partial refund. such a scenario could place non-refund-requesters in a bad situation (no refund and no chips at all, because of partial refund)

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September 03, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
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Does this mean for those of us in GB2 that opted for a refund can expect it pretty soon?

Cheers.
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September 03, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
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Does this mean for those of us in GB2 that opted for a refund can expect it pretty soon?

Cheers.
SM.


GB2 is not refundable at the moment
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September 03, 2013, 03:12:54 PM
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Chip GB refund requests sent in for those who've voted to do so.


@Bizwoo, @John (John K.) - "for those who've voted to do so". So, the rest of us actually will get chips?

Isn't it better to place whole GB1 refund request as majority voted (or it's not a majority at all?) Is there any graph of "voting"?

Now I'm really starting to worry. Part of buyers will be refunded (hopefully - as they want), and then what? I though there is no posibility of partial refund. such a scenario could place non-refund-requesters in a bad situation (no refund and no chips at all, because of partial refund)

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"for those who've voted to do so"

By "Those" he means Group Buy organizers, ie. bizwoo.

All buyers in batch 1 will receive a refund.

Batch 2 is not within the June 22 cutoff limit to request a refund, so those buyers will receive the chips.
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September 03, 2013, 05:20:34 PM
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By "Those" he means Group Buy organizers, ie. bizwoo.
Uh oh Smiley silly me. Thx.

All buyers in batch 1 will receive a refund.
Better than nothing I guess.

Batch 2 is not within the June 22 cutoff limit to request a refund, so those buyers will receive the chips.
Let's hope theese will come.

greets
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September 03, 2013, 05:28:16 PM
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By "Those" he means Group Buy organizers, ie. bizwoo.
Uh oh Smiley silly me. Thx.

All buyers in batch 1 will receive a refund.
Better than nothing I guess.

Batch 2 is not within the June 22 cutoff limit to request a refund, so those buyers will receive the chips.
Let's hope theese will come.

greets


Indeed.

What I posted above is "As things Stand at the moment". It can change very quickly in bitcoinland. That is why I have kept insisting here for things to MOVE ON. Shit can happen and we loose BTC..  €..  $ .
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September 03, 2013, 09:33:09 PM
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Hi all

John K has informed that he already placed the refund request and is only waiting to hear back from AVALON with the refund.

Preparing for it please visit the following link and have a look to the list of btc addresses from GB1 and the number of chips for which they will be refunded:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHDrDoprzirdGJXZ1pfaGNCNV9vdS03alo2V09QVkE&usp=sharing

From the time of this post I will give 48 hours to everyone to check their btc address is correct and only let me know by PM in case it is not and/or there is another problem. Please note that I do not expect to change btc addresses for the refund at least you are able to send a signed message from the address currently in the list.

Cheers 
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September 04, 2013, 04:34:35 AM
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Does anyone want to buy 48 chips from GB2?
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September 04, 2013, 02:21:03 PM
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Hi
I want my chips Smiley
Do you have any news if avalon will deliver soon?

Cheers,
Tom

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September 04, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
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Anyone interested on 48 chips from GB2?
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September 04, 2013, 04:31:48 PM
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PM me
if anyone wants 208 chips from GB2.
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September 05, 2013, 08:58:49 PM
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Any update on the refund?

Yifu has refunded 4 batches today.

https://blockchain.info/address/1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN

Is JohnK any of these?
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