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July 04, 2017, 08:19:50 PM
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Hello,
don't know if this is the right place for my thread,if not just move it.
So i started betting on Nitrogensports site.
Deposited 0.30 BTC placed Parlay(More than 1 match) bet-lost.
Then i deposited 1 BTC to play 2 tennis matches today.

Here's my tennis bet: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/6d0ab62VUpKK1NaVk80RzFKb3lESmlOWmFPQT09/r/2178052/

Raonic won his match and then Lopez played 4 sets and RETIRED.So after that im joining back to nitogensports site to see if they updated the bet,and then what i see is my bet is LOST.WTF ?
I've asked in chat what's that about,and then chat mod told me they had rule if player retires after the first set all MATCH BETS are approved.Like HOW DA FK is this possible??? I've played on almost all big bookmakers and they ALWAYS VOID match winner bets.The rule is they only pay for set outcomes and ALWAYS return match bets no matter in which set the player retires(Take bet365 rules for example).
So how the fk i would know that they have such a shitty rules,which are set 100 % to scam users...

Take this example: Lets imagine there's a match between Djokovic and Nadal.So for example Djokovic leads 1:0 sets .And then Djokovic get injured in 2th set but he finish it.SO now the result is 1:1 sets and they start 3th set and then at the beggining Djokovic decides to RETIRE.SO my question is how do u determinate what will be the outcome of the match if Djokovic didn't retire.YOU CANT ,that's why it must be VOID ! There's no such fkin bullshit rule in all of the bookmakers.

Be aware of this bullshit site with bullshit RULES guys.
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July 04, 2017, 08:28:11 PM
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I think this is not a good place to share about your experience in nitrogen sports you can move this thread here in gambling section where gamblers and gambling owners can read this. Move it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
Well i never experience the same as yours and i think nitrogen sports is one of the great sports book these days .. since directbet.eu was gone nitrogen is the next bitcoin sports book alternative .. better to try discuss it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355081.5520
And maybe there are misunderstanding between mods in your issue..
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July 04, 2017, 08:37:42 PM
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I don't think i can move it,or i don't know how.So please can a moderator move it ,thanks ?

This is a scam 100 % no matter what they are saying.There's no such rule on any other bookmaker platform.I'm trying to explain to them in support ticket that if i knew about rule OF COURSE i wouldn't risk 1 BTC for 0.30 return !!
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July 05, 2017, 01:45:18 AM
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Hello,
don't know if this is the right place for my thread,if not just move it.
So i started betting on Nitrogensports site.
Deposited 0.30 BTC placed Parlay(More than 1 match) bet-lost.
Then i deposited 1 BTC to play 2 tennis matches today.

Here's my tennis bet: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/6d0ab62VUpKK1NaVk80RzFKb3lESmlOWmFPQT09/r/2178052/

Raonic won his match and then Lopez played 4 sets and RETIRED.So after that im joining back to nitogensports site to see if they updated the bet,and then what i see is my bet is LOST.WTF ?
I've asked in chat what's that about,and then chat mod told me they had rule if player retires after the first set all MATCH BETS are approved.Like HOW DA FK is this possible??? I've played on almost all big bookmakers and they ALWAYS VOID match winner bets.The rule is they only pay for set outcomes and ALWAYS return match bets no matter in which set the player retires(Take bet365 rules for example).
So how the fk i would know that they have such a shitty rules,which are set 100 % to scam users...

Take this example: Lets imagine there's a match between Djokovic and Nadal.So for example Djokovic leads 1:0 sets .And then Djokovic get injured in 2th set but he finish it.SO now the result is 1:1 sets and they start 3th set and then at the beggining Djokovic decides to RETIRE.SO my question is how do u determinate what will be the outcome of the match if Djokovic didn't retire.YOU CANT ,that's why it must be VOID ! There's no such fkin bullshit rule in all of the bookmakers.

Be aware of this bullshit site with bullshit RULES guys.


Hello, No Fear.

It's unfortunate that you feel this way towards the site and the rules. It is stated in the rules/tennis section, however;

https://nitrogensports.eu/n/rules

Delays and Shortened Matches
If a tennis match is completed, all wagers stand. A delay in the start of a match will not affect any wagers, nor will a suspension, as long as play is resumed and the match completed. In the event that a match does not go the expected number of sets, and the match is shortened by officials, the bets will still stand as long as an official winner is declared.

We advise everyone to read the specific rules for each sport before making a bet. Thank you.

-Jason


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July 05, 2017, 04:50:25 AM
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Yep, as NitrogenSports said, terms and conditions say that when there is a retired player on a match that is in your single bet, parlay, whatever, the result will depend on the match official's verdict and is usually pretty obvious.

This case reminds me of once there was a guy complaining about the opposite - he had a tennis match i believe as well, and he bet on the guy that was declared the winner when the opponent retired. However the bet was shown as cancelled.

So if you bet on the other guy and the bet showed as cancelled, how would you feel? Exactly. Sportsbooks have their own rules that are followed no matter the result, to ensure the fairness is even throughout all bets.

Take the L man, it's just bad luck. Can't blame it on the house.
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July 05, 2017, 07:20:27 AM
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Hello,
don't know if this is the right place for my thread,if not just move it.
So i started betting on Nitrogensports site.
Deposited 0.30 BTC placed Parlay(More than 1 match) bet-lost.
Then i deposited 1 BTC to play 2 tennis matches today.

Here's my tennis bet: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/6d0ab62VUpKK1NaVk80RzFKb3lESmlOWmFPQT09/r/2178052/

Raonic won his match and then Lopez played 4 sets and RETIRED.So after that im joining back to nitogensports site to see if they updated the bet,and then what i see is my bet is LOST.WTF ?
I've asked in chat what's that about,and then chat mod told me they had rule if player retires after the first set all MATCH BETS are approved.Like HOW DA FK is this possible??? I've played on almost all big bookmakers and they ALWAYS VOID match winner bets.The rule is they only pay for set outcomes and ALWAYS return match bets no matter in which set the player retires(Take bet365 rules for example).
So how the fk i would know that they have such a shitty rules,which are set 100 % to scam users...

Take this example: Lets imagine there's a match between Djokovic and Nadal.So for example Djokovic leads 1:0 sets .And then Djokovic get injured in 2th set but he finish it.SO now the result is 1:1 sets and they start 3th set and then at the beggining Djokovic decides to RETIRE.SO my question is how do u determinate what will be the outcome of the match if Djokovic didn't retire.YOU CANT ,that's why it must be VOID ! There's no such fkin bullshit rule in all of the bookmakers.

Be aware of this bullshit site with bullshit RULES guys.


Hello, No Fear.

It's unfortunate that you feel this way towards the site and the rules. It is stated in the rules/tennis section, however;

https://nitrogensports.eu/n/rules

Delays and Shortened Matches
If a tennis match is completed, all wagers stand. A delay in the start of a match will not affect any wagers, nor will a suspension, as long as play is resumed and the match completed. In the event that a match does not go the expected number of sets, and the match is shortened by officials, the bets will still stand as long as an official winner is declared.

We advise everyone to read the specific rules for each sport before making a bet. Thank you.

-Jason


Kudos.
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July 05, 2017, 08:47:55 AM
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Take the L man, it's just bad luck. Can't blame it on the house.

Of course i will blame the fk house.Bullshit rules like this one are bad for the game and they will scam many new players who come to place a bet.
Seems like u all don't have fkin idea what are the official rules by most of the bookmakers.But u know what,Nitrogen owners set those rules deliberately,knowing there will be new players,who come and doesnt give a shit about rules and just want to place a fkin bet.That's my case- i came to the site,YES without looking into bet rules, BUT i thought standart tennis rules on most betting houses are valid here too.

That's why im posting this thread here,to let know big players to not risk their money on this pathetic betting house!
If i've made that bet on Bet365 i would've won my BTC + 0.11 ,0.12 BTC up from Raonic match.

Guess i need to learn from my mistake the hard way - NEVER PLAY ON SMALL BULLSHIT SCUM SITES !

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July 05, 2017, 10:03:20 AM
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Of course i will blame the fk house.Bullshit rules like this one are bad for the game and they will scam many new players who come to place a bet.
Seems like u all don't have fkin idea what are the official rules by most of the bookmakers.But u know what,Nitrogen owners set those rules deliberately,knowing there will be new players,who come and doesnt give a shit about rules and just want to place a fkin bet.That's my case- i came to the site,YES without looking into bet rules, BUT i thought standart tennis rules on most betting houses are valid here too.

That's why im posting this thread here,to let know big players to not risk their money on this pathetic betting house!
If i've made that bet on Bet365 i would've won my BTC + 0.11 ,0.12 BTC up from Raonic match.

Guess i need to learn from my mistake the hard way - NEVER PLAY ON SMALL BULLSHIT SCUM SITES !

Peace

I see this as pretty ambiguous. I live in australia so i'm going to cite australian sportsbooks.

Ladbrokes says this:

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In Match Betting, if one player withdraws or is disqualified after the first set has been completed, the player progressing to the next round or that is awarded the match by the umpire will be considered the winner. If the first set has not been completed, all Match Bets will be void.

This is basically what Nitrogensports is following. But sportsbet says the opposite:

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all bets are void in the case of a match that involves a retirement or disqualification.
Bet365 seems to void bets as well.

It ultimately depends on the exact wording of the terms and conditions listed by the sportsbook you're playing at. In tennis this is a pretty common occurance, so i think that it's worth checking out next time their terms before actually betting.
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July 05, 2017, 03:42:04 PM
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It depends on sportsbook to sports book. Some might deal it other way and some may deal it way NS dealt . I recently got my bet cancelled when just like your bet , opponent in my bet event also got injured and I was expecting it to get resolved as win but it got cancelled (was on Coinbet24) and bet stake was returned and the support showed me their rules.
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July 05, 2017, 04:21:44 PM
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Take the L man, it's just bad luck. Can't blame it on the house.

Of course i will blame the fk house.Bullshit rules like this one are bad for the game and they will scam many new players who come to place a bet.
Seems like u all don't have fkin idea what are the official rules by most of the bookmakers.But u know what,Nitrogen owners set those rules deliberately,knowing there will be new players,who come and doesnt give a shit about rules and just want to place a fkin bet.That's my case- i came to the site,YES without looking into bet rules, BUT i thought standart tennis rules on most betting houses are valid here too.

That's why im posting this thread here,to let know big players to not risk their money on this pathetic betting house!
If i've made that bet on Bet365 i would've won my BTC + 0.11 ,0.12 BTC up from Raonic match.

Guess i need to learn from my mistake the hard way - NEVER PLAY ON SMALL BULLSHIT SCUM SITES !

Peace
And it's obvious you didn't read nitrogensports's rules.  So you're being an incredibly sore loser.  Next time don't assume you know the fucking rules.  DERP.

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July 05, 2017, 05:54:34 PM
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I play at five books online, four follow nitrogen's rule, seems to be the standard
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July 05, 2017, 06:29:34 PM
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Rule of thumb - always read the TOS and any specific rules for different sports you are going to bet on before actually starting to bet on a new sportsbook.

Additionally you can see that A. Mannarino is pronounced winner in that particular match so NitrogenSports are in their right to take your money.
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July 08, 2017, 08:49:20 PM
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Gotta agree with the majority and say you really should read a sites TOS before making any bets.

That being said, Lopez won the first set 7-5, then lost sets 2 and 3 at 6-1. He retired in the fourth set down 4 games to 3. I'm not saying comebacks aren't possible, but it would appear you were already on your way to probably losing this one, if it makes you feel any better.

A couple interesting things to note though. If you had bet the spread instead of the ML wager, it would have been a push as per rule 3 of Nitro's tennis betting rules. Also risking 1 unit to win 1/3 of a unit, particularly in accumulators, is generally pretty terrible and not advised in the world of professional sports degenning.

Good luck.
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It is the first time I such rule in a sport betting website. Major bookmakers ,especially in the UK which is considered as the country with a lot of small bookies, bet365, betfair, betathome ,bwin ,eurobet, and many others , if the game do not start or is interrupted during gameplay, the bet usually is a VOID.

Anyway it looks like this is not Nitrogensports fault, they have stated it in the rules. I rarely play tennis but it is good to know the rules, as honestly I never read them there, I took them for granted to be the same as 99% of other sportsbooks.




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July 09, 2017, 03:19:22 PM
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It is the first time I such rule in a sport betting website. Major bookmakers ,especially in the UK which is considered as the country with a lot of small bookies, bet365, betfair, betathome ,bwin ,eurobet, and many others , if the game do not start or is interrupted during gameplay, the bet usually is a VOID.

Anyway it looks like this is not Nitrogensports fault, they have stated it in the rules. I rarely play tennis but it is good to know the rules, as honestly I never read them there, I took them for granted to be the same as 99% of other sportsbooks.
These are the rules on retirement in Tennis at a variety of big bookies. It's actually much more split than you make it sound between voiding and settling.

1 Ball Served Bookmakers (player must serve just once for any bets to stand)
BetBright
Bwin

 

1 Set Completed Bookmakers (1 set must be played policy for bets to stand. If one set has not been completed all bets are void and you get your stake back)
Betdaq
Betfair
Betfred
BetOnline
Betsafe
Betsson
Coral
Ladbrokes
Matchbook
Paddy Power
Pinnacle
Smarkets
Sporting Bet
Unibet
888Sport

 

Whole Match Completed Bookmakers (whole match must be completed or bets are void)
10bet
188bet
Bet365
Bet-at-home
BetVictor
Boylesports
Sky Bet
Stan James
TitanBet
William Hill
Winner Sports


NitrogenSports would be in with the 1 Ball Served Bookmakers.
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July 09, 2017, 03:59:39 PM
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It is the first time I such rule in a sport betting website. Major bookmakers ,especially in the UK which is considered as the country with a lot of small bookies, bet365, betfair, betathome ,bwin ,eurobet, and many others , if the game do not start or is interrupted during gameplay, the bet usually is a VOID.

Anyway it looks like this is not Nitrogensports fault, they have stated it in the rules. I rarely play tennis but it is good to know the rules, as honestly I never read them there, I took them for granted to be the same as 99% of other sportsbooks.
These are the rules on retirement in Tennis at a variety of big bookies. It's actually much more split than you make it sound between voiding and settling.

1 Ball Served Bookmakers (player must serve just once for any bets to stand)
BetBright
Bwin

 

1 Set Completed Bookmakers (1 set must be played policy for bets to stand. If one set has not been completed all bets are void and you get your stake back)
Betdaq
Betfair
Betfred
BetOnline
Betsafe
Betsson
Coral
Ladbrokes
Matchbook
Paddy Power
Pinnacle
Smarkets
Sporting Bet
Unibet
888Sport

 

Whole Match Completed Bookmakers (whole match must be completed or bets are void)
10bet
188bet
Bet365
Bet-at-home
BetVictor
Boylesports
Sky Bet
Stan James
TitanBet
William Hill
Winner Sports


NitrogenSports would be in with the 1 Ball Served Bookmakers.

It's actually a slight bit more complicated than that for Nitrogen. Since it was a ML wager that was the issue, and there was a retirement, if they had not played one full set, the bet would have been cancelled.

Moneyline Wagers
In a head to head matchup, one full set must be completed for Money Line wagers to stand. If less than one set is completed, all Money Line wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.


If he had bet set spread, i.e. xxxxxx (+/-)1.5 sets, the bet would have been cancelled.

Set Wagers
When betting "Sets", if a match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned. If a set is completed that encompasses a bet (for example a first set bet where the first set is completed) then the bet will stand.


If he had bet the spread instead of the ML, for either player, the bet would have been cancelled.

Spread and Total Wagers
When betting Spreads and Totals, if a tennis match is not completed because of a player retirement or disqualification, all wagers will be cancelled and funds returned.


So basically in this case, OP had to bet Lopez ML and also have them complete at least one full set for the bet to be valid, which obviously happened.


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July 09, 2017, 07:54:38 PM
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while I don't know what are common rules in tennis betting , I'm sure that nitro is the most trusted and popular sportsbook in bitcoin market
tons of bets going on daily and really hard to see complaints against them

I'm sorry for your bad experience , but since the rules are saying that then Nitro has nothing to do about it and they didn't scam you
rules aren't the same in all bookie , so you need to read them in each site especially when you bet on tennis where such scenarios happen a lot

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July 10, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
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I don't think i can move it,or i don't know how.So please can a moderator move it ,thanks ?

This is a scam 100 % no matter what they are saying.There's no such rule on any other bookmaker platform.I'm trying to explain to them in support ticket that if i knew about rule OF COURSE i wouldn't risk 1 BTC for 0.30 return !!

People should use their mind. Except for all the people that are actually informed and know what they're doing. so please stop accusing other people of stealing because there is no stealing in Bitcoin.
there is simply giving away your money. You should always try to invest small amount and never take big risk on online gambling sites. That's my piece of advice.
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