Wall Observer new ownership

[Lauda]

Because you started it when you insisted that all gender specific pronouns attributed to you were sexist, presumably because you enjoy the attention?

Are you trying to suggest that I am needy?

hahahaha Lauda.. .If you are potentially going to resume to power, you have to take these nutjobs in stride and humor, no?

I have gotten used to it over the years.

However, candidates displaying a level of utter contempt for the WO by saying it was 'full of garbage AND idiots' are unlikely to find it is the best way to get people to vote for them to be its moderator.

You are highly confused. The entity that wins this (infofront is the likely winner as of now) has zero benefit from it. He/she/it is doing everyone else a huge favor with their contribution. Therefore, there is no reason to "campaign" for this in any way.

The reason the WO thread is interesting is oftentimes because of the "garbage and idiots". The beautiful thing is, you can ignore the "garbage and idiots" that you don't like. There are quite a few users I've ignored specifically because of their posting in the WO thread, but some users who would most likely be moderated more often than not... *ahem r0ach*... are quite entertaining to me.

If this were to be applied in WO thread, it would have to be applied in the rest of the forum. I disagree with your suggestion.

Can you please stop being so unpatriotic?

Did you vote for Trump?

[Last of the V8s]

The reason the WO thread is interesting is oftentimes because of the "garbage and idiots". The beautiful thing is, you can ignore the "garbage and idiots" that you don't like. There are quite a few users I've ignored specifically because of their posting in the WO thread, but some users who would most likely be moderated more often than not... *ahem r0ach*... are quite entertaining to me.

If this were to be applied in WO thread, it would have to be applied in the rest of the forum. I disagree with your suggestion.

Dude this is so typical of you wretched sig-spammers.

You waltz into a thread pretending to know things and voicing opinions on stuff.

But you have proved here and many times before that you are not reading the threads before ejaculating on this or that matter:

Since option 1 is in the lead, I already wrote a draft of a policy change for that one, possibly addressing your concerns:

The Wall Observer is now owned by the forum. The listed owner is responsible for maintaining it. If the owner fails to maintain it (ie. I start getting too many complaints), then they will be replaced.

The thread is exempt from the following rules from the perspective of bitcointalk.org mods:

- Off-topicness (in relation to either Speculation or the topic itself).
- Double-posting etc., within reason.

(The thread owner can and should enforce those rules to some degree, however.)

A warning will show up about the above rule exemptions when you try to report a post in the thread.

Signatures won't show up in the thread anymore.

I can only suggest you take care to spend much more time reading the material and much less time trying to pick up pennies.

[Lauda]

Dude this is so typical of you wretched sig-spammers.

Who, Holliday, me?

You waltz into a thread pretending to know things and voicing opinions on stuff.

Waltz in? I've been part of this thread since its inception. I have responded to someone who was replying to my statement. I think that you are confused.

But you have proved here and many times before that you are not reading the threads before ejaculating on this or that matter:
-snip-

You are complaining that I may have missed/forgotten a post that is not even part of this thread Not that the quote is actually really relevant to what I had stated.

[Last of the V8s]

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1993570.0

This thread depends on that thread. See? See!

If this were to be applied in WO thread, it would have to be applied in the rest of the forum. I disagree with your suggestion.

... threads ...

The thread is exempt from the following rules from the perspective of bitcointalk.org mods:
Signatures won't show up in the thread anymore.

I can only suggest you take care to spend much more time reading the material and much less time trying to pick up pennies.

[Lauda]

I can only suggest you take care to spend much more time reading the material and much less time trying to pick up pennies.

Exempt from a few rules != exempt from everything. Considering that the quote isn't even relevant, I can only suggest the same.

Not that the quote is actually really relevant to what I had stated.

There's nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes.

You should try it considering that you are wrong.

[Last of the V8s]

I can only suggest you take care to spend much more time reading the material and much less time trying to pick up pennies.

Exempt from a few rules != exempt from everything. Considering that the quote isn't even relevant, I can only suggest the same.

Not that the quote is actually really relevant to what I had stated.

Aha the 'same to you with knobs on' argument.
There's nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes.
Admitting it to yourself can be quite helpful. Try it.
I'm out.

[freedomno1]

A gentle touch is needed a hands off approach that is Laisse-Fairre as much as can be reasonable with that in mind my vote was made, lets see how the community decides this one. Good selection but different approaches for different tasks, that's the way it is done.

Can we post train pictures and stuff when our candidates go in the lead?

In a few days we will have WO again, maybe it is good to start recovering old habits in the meantime (or to do it for the last time in case Lauda wins the poll)

Lol We need a Choo Choo Train signature again he-he ah good old days lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqZoph265U

(Lol reads through goes into women logic ah just like the WSO ^^ worth a taste for Theymos )

Sure we have a few days left, yet I would have thought that with the passage of time, more members would have attempted to log into the WO thread and then gravitated towards these voting threads... and just that more votes would have come through in a shorter period of time

I guess my tentative theory is that WO participants are much more fleeting than I had considered and they seem to be more gravitating towards such WO thread when we have extremes in BTC price movements - which have not been happening in the last couple of weeks.  Prices have been relatively flat in the $2350 to $2700 price range in the last couple weeks, since the locking of the WO thread....

Time for a break out in terms of prices and in terms of recharging the allegedly "fleeting" WO posse?

Over analyzed calm down the storm doth approaches and also not everyone reads meta and gets redirected here it is the default hidden board where all the olden drama is hidden, well that and reputation pretty much ^^.

Although I loathe Trump and his supporters I do think a supporter of his would be a more appropriate choice here..

I just wanted to point out there may be more females coming..
I think I almost turned my self with sissy hypno porn
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1997638.msg19908380#msg19908380
It starts with sipping a glass with dinner then next thing ya know you're in an alley draining pipe..

Inserts feminism it's HC (LD) vs everyone else since their men to the best of presumed internet logic.
Got to get the women bitcointalkers out to vote (looks around um... claps hands ^^)
Gotta be careful about that hypno porn though it can get anyone's right hands.

[yefi]

Here's to a new era in the thread's history. Let's see what this one brings, from Ediacaran oddity to Cambrian expressiveness.

[xhomerx10]

  I voted for Lauda.

That was obvious.

  Well excuse me for being Captain Obvious but somebody asked and it was a good segue into my rant.

It was locked because it did not have a moderator at all.

The Wall Observer thread is currently locked because it attracts way more off-topic posts than we want to deal with. Continuing the status quo is therefore not really an option. The thread can continue if the situation is changed in such a way that we don't have to constantly clean up its trash, however.

I will be looking at who voted what, and I might publish it here. Mostly I'm interested in hearing from participants in the Wall Observer thread.

Vote for every option that you consider acceptable.

 Yeah.  Sure.  The admin is helpless when a self-moderated thread's moderator goes AWOL.

I like that when I get a notification of activity in a thread I follow that it will contain something topical and worthy of my time rather than a Nazi woman wearing Bitcoin symbol arm band and sporting flashing green lights for breasts.  It's not funny, not entertaining, not offensive to me personally but mainly it's not topical.  Then other people want to weigh in on that off-topic post with their own critiques, criticisms, shaming and various other expressions of "free speech" and the thread goes to shit.

  Feel free to exercise your free speech by creating a new thread in the society section about whatever the hell you want and then let people decide whether they care to waste their time in there.  Perhaps you don't realize the reason the thread was locked in the first place.  It's those "free speech" off topic posts that created the censorship - we're still free to make our posts just not in the WO thread because it was "out of control".  It became a headache for the administrator of this board; the easiest thing for him to do would be to leave it locked.  This should lead any sane individual to realize that the WO thread WAS full of garbage AND idiots.

 If you want free speech, put on placard and dance around in the streets - or - if you want free speech in here, open a new thread with your off-topic rants.  When I say "you" I'm talking to all those idiots who caused the complaints that led to the WO thread being locked in the first place.  This is not the end of the problem; it's a second chance and from what I see in this thread, we may be destined to repeat the same mistake.  Free speech doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want and there are no consequences - it only means the government can't penalize you for saying it.

So you want free speech, but you want it controlled? You believe in 'order'.  OK, I see.

Maybe it was 'full of garbage and idiots', maybe that is an exaggeration.  Maybe it was tiresome at times, maybe that disorder was part of its allure. 

However, candidates displaying a level of utter contempt for the WO by saying it was 'full of garbage AND idiots' are unlikely to find it is the best way to get people to vote for them to be its moderator.

 No, you don't see.

It was 'full of garbage and idiots', it was 'tiresome at times' and 'disorderly' but all of those are simply opinions that vary member to member.  The thread was locked because these opinions made it to the eyes of the admin one time too often.  A hands off approach by a new moderator will land us in the same boat.

 Anyway, congratulations to the winner and good luck in your new role!

[xhomerx10]

[blah blah something blah]

...I only saw xhomerx10's post because you quoted him, I have him on ignore (possibly due to me ignoring pretty much anyone with a paid sig). The reason I'm pointing that out is because I'm compelled to respond to his post with the following: L2Ignore!...
[blah blah blah]

 For the record:

I have a lot of respect for sidehack and his contributions to the Bitcoin mining community.  Mine is not a paid sig.

[yefi]

It was 'full of garbage and idiots', it was 'tiresome at times' and 'disorderly' but all of those are simply opinions that vary member to member.  The thread was locked because these opinions made it to the eyes of the admin one time too often.  A hands off approach by a new moderator will land us in the same boat.

The forum was locked because too many off-topic posts were being reported, quite possibly to cause disruption. This was possible because the open-topic nature of the thread was never properly addressed with respect to the on-topic rule.

As for garbage and idiocy, those have never been criteria for deletion on this forum. One can live the life of Stig of the Dump here, so long as it is topical. So what is really being argued there is to merely shift trash from one forum receptacle to another.

[Erkallys]

My congratulations to infofront for getting the role of moderator of the Wall Observer ! I know that with him he is into good hands !

[Lauda]

My congratulations to infofront for getting the role of moderator of the Wall Observer !

Likewise. Congratulations infofront and good luck. You will need it.

[theymos]

infofront wins. The WO thread is transferred to him and is now unlocked. May you forever keep it out of my hair!

Based on who voted what, I determined that second-place actually goes to empowering. The votes:

infofront
marcus_of_augustus
jbreher
EAL
arklan
yefi
Wendigo
freedomno1
JayJuanGee
r0ach
2dogs
Torque
kurious
xyzzy099
bitebits
pooya87
bones261
White sugar
sirazimuth
ShroomsKit_Disgrace
Dotto
spiderbrain
steelboy
harrymmmm
cafucafucafu
JanpriX
savetherainforest
fluidjax
Ziploc
Babylon
BlackFlag
RayX12
Chevas Regal
FractalUniverse
bitserve
DrMsEr
machasm
deepcolderwallet
Genesis1337
Bitcoinaire
Gab0
(dogie)
(Quickseller)
(chaser15)
(DarkStar_)
(BlockEye)
(clickerz)
(Snub)
(Jemzx00)
(Wowcoin)
(eaLiTy)
(iwantapony)
(TryNinja)
(SportbetMaster)
(webtricks)
(btc2nxt)
(jems)
(ImGenius)
(sossygirl)

empowering
marcus_of_augustus
EAL
arklan
yefi
kurious
xyzzy099
infofront
crazyjack
BlindMayorBitcorn
silverfuture
bones261
Dotto
spiderbrain
soullyG
fluidjax
Last of the V8s
FractalUniverse
cgt99
bitserve
Scofield
(Quickseller)
(DarkStar_)
(Jemzx00)

Lauda
Soros Shorts
JimboToronto
qwk
xhomerx10
Meuh6879
Denker
pooya87
leowonderful
soullyG
JanpriX
klaaas
Ted E. Bare
coolcoinz
FractalUniverse
JessicaG
kludzins
Scofield
trackermut
(KWH)
(dogie)
(minifrij)
(1Referee)
(ranochigo)
(irfan_pak10)
(xandry)
(whywefight)
(SFR10)
(pinoycash)
(free-bit.co.in)
(xLays)
(lighpulsar07)
(bennl)
(BeetcoinScummer)
(EpicFail)
(Moon_Man)

lightfoot
OgNasty
jbreher
EAL
arklan
yefi
lightfoot
kurious
xyzzy099
infofront
silverfuture
bones261
empowering
Muhammed Zakir
soullyG
bitserve
x2666
(ranochigo)
(Quickseller)
(clickerz)
(Jemzx00)

arklan
EAL
arklan
yefi
kurious
infofront
silverfuture
bones261
bitserve
(izanagi narukami)
(Quickseller)
(Zeroxal)
(clickerz)
(senyorito123)
(killyou72)
(Jemzx00)
(Traxo)

Erkallys
EAL
yefi
kurious
infofront
bones261
V1saya
bitserve
(Quickseller)
(Erkallys)
(Zeroxal)
(clickerz)
(Jemzx00)
(Russlenat)
(Odd Thomas)
(PX-Z)

[Lauda]

Based on who voted what, I determined that second-place actually goes to empowering.

Out of curiosity, what was the basis for excluding the votes? People who do not participate in that thread were excluded or was something else used?

[theymos]

Out of curiosity, what was the basis for excluding the votes? People who do not participate in that thread were excluded or was something else used?

Empowering has 4 more participant votes, including 2 more high-rank participant votes.

It was closer for third place: Compared to lightfoot, you have 1 more high-rank participant vote but the same number of total participant votes. At this stage, I considered it a tie which I broke by looking at non-participants.

[Holliday]

The reason the WO thread is interesting is oftentimes because of the "garbage and idiots". The beautiful thing is, you can ignore the "garbage and idiots" that you don't like. There are quite a few users I've ignored specifically because of their posting in the WO thread, but some users who would most likely be moderated more often than not... *ahem r0ach*... are quite entertaining to me.

If this were to be applied in WO thread, it would have to be applied in the rest of the forum. I disagree with your suggestion.

Unless there is some technical barrier, I don't see why the "on-topic" rule needs to apply to the entire forum without exception. The WO thread is often interesting because every post isn't about order depth walls on various exchanges (I'd imagine a very low percentage of them are). In fact, observing walls is pretty fucking boring, which is probably why the thread evolved into something else.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

EDIT: (lawl) Special Wall Observer rules: bitcointalk.org moderators do not moderate the Wall Observer thread for multi-posting (except obvious spam), trolling, or on-topicness. Do not use this form to report those violations; instead, contact the thread owner. Reports of other rule violations are OK here.

I only saw xhomerx10's post because you quoted him, I have him on ignore (possibly due to me ignoring pretty much anyone with a paid sig). The reason I'm pointing that out is because I'm compelled to respond to his post with the following: L2Ignore!

For the record:

I have a lot of respect for sidehack and his contributions to the Bitcoin mining community.  Mine is not a paid sig.

Well... for the record: I did say possibly (I didn't bother to check). I could have also possibly ignored you because you were posting "garbage"or being an "idiot" somewhere, possibly in the WO thread!

[yefi]

May you forever keep it out of my hair!

You still have hair?

Anyway, thanks for your intervention here. Hopefully things can run smoothly now.

[freedomno1]

Thanks Theymos now that it is officially out of your hair and we have a successor let the Madness Begin! (or Continue whatever you may please)

[r0ach]

Did you vote for Trump?

Who do you think is running all the Twitter Pepe frogs?  It's not Vladimir Putin.  Each heroic Sybil Pepe journeys into the dangerous world of Twitter to battle Marxism.  Most of them are banned, but they stay in there long enough to get the job done.



The #goyimliberationmovement is at war, and in war there are no rules.  The Overton window will slowly be moved downwards by any means necessary.  It is essential Lebensraum for the wall observer Munich beer hall be maintained by executive order.