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May 10, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
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There are already many accusations against Joshter, why hasnt he been tagged yet, we were going to do a deal for yac, ltc. He wanted me to send first, I reccomended using John K escrow, within two minutes he pms me a fake contract and said he contacted him, but he was offline, then withing minutes he cancels the deal..... dont do business with him typical scammer -

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May 10, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
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Can you provide any evidence of this 'fake' contract?

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May 10, 2013, 08:39:21 PM
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saudibull = Joshster

Move onto your next account and try again.

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May 10, 2013, 08:42:02 PM
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Can you provide any evidence of this 'fake' contract?
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Escrow Request.
« Sent to: saudibull on: Today at 08:05:56 PM »
Quote  Reply  Delete 
Quote from: John (John K.)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

The escrow address for Joshster(the seller) and Saudibull(the buyer) transaction would be:

LNzD63MLKavcLQftDqGnnxq4gXevYoyAQy - Litecoin

Please state and agree to the conditions (It is 3500 YAC for 75 LTC.) beforehand.

If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a ‘statement of condition’.

The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.  On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.

Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction.   
If possible, please tip me at 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz .

Thank you.

John (the escrow holder)
10 May 2013
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 - John K was offline, I never recieved a PM from John K. and Joshter just copied this from John K's post and sent it to me.

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May 10, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
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saudibull = Joshster

Move onto your next account and try again.
  ?  Are you saying that we are the same person.... ? lol, yea, we are both online at the same time... that is a very immature thing to put out there, especially when you are a little higher up on the chain here...

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May 10, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
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Escrow Request Confirmed
« Sent to: saudibull on: Today at 08:44:02 PM »
Quote  Reply  Delete 
Confirmed send the Litecoin to the escrow address.

Quote from: John (John K)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

The escrow address for Joshster(the seller) and Saudibull(the buyer) transaction would be:

LNzD63MLKavcLQftDqGnnxq4gXevYoyAQy - Litecoin

Please state and agree to the conditions (It is 3500 YAC for 75 LTC.) beforehand.

If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a ‘statement of condition’.

The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.  On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.

Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction. 
If possible, please tip me at 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz .

Thank you.

John (the escrow holder)
10 May 2013
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May 10, 2013, 08:55:26 PM
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Okay, Joshster has been accused of scamming before, check this thread out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192971.0 and here is another one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196082.0

Again there are mixed reviews although, this does require attention from moderators, so that they can investigate further.


Edit: Found another thread with similar allegations: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200433.0


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Escrow Request Confirmed
« Sent to: saudibull on: Today at 08:44:02 PM »
Quote  Reply  Delete 
Confirmed send the Litecoin to the escrow address.

Quote from: John (John K)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

The escrow address for Joshster(the seller) and Saudibull(the buyer) transaction would be:

LNzD63MLKavcLQftDqGnnxq4gXevYoyAQy - Litecoin

Please state and agree to the conditions (It is 3500 YAC for 75 LTC.) beforehand.

If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a ‘statement of condition’.

The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.  On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.

Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction. 
If possible, please tip me at 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz .

Thank you.

John (the escrow holder)
10 May 2013
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If this is true that is very bad, but this would require moderators looking into the situation, this is out of the publics hands.
He/she has been reported many times, some may not be true of course.
But, the public can't check ip's, hopefully a member of staff can take a look at what ip address that account was registered at, it could be you. (people do stuff like this when there mad, I'm not saying it's you though).
Maybe, the account was registered at a separate ip and still could be joshster, but there are ways of finding out.

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May 10, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
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A scan would be better, because a text copy can be changed, but I think in this case it's enough evidence to have results. John will be so annoyed that this Joshter, finally, will receive the tag for which he (involuntarily) worked so hard. It seems that impersonating John is a capital offense that grants a quick tag from Theymos. Since Joshter and MartinReynolds are the same person (he confessed that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197430.msg2066486#msg2066486), I hope we will have two tags for the price of one.

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May 10, 2013, 09:11:04 PM
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Yes, I agree a scan of the message would be better, would provide more solid evidence.




A scan would be better, because a text copy can be changed, but I think in this case it's enough evidence to have results. John will be so annoyed that this Joshter, finally, will receive the tag for which he (involuntarily) worked so hard. It seems that impersonating John is a capital offense that grants a quick tag from Theymos. Since Joshter and MartinReynolds are the same person (he confessed that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197430.msg2066486#msg2066486), I hope we will have two tags for the price of one.

It's only right that he has the tag on both accounts, otherwise he could just do the same on is other account.

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May 10, 2013, 09:12:34 PM
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Yes I agree with all of you, I already reported this to moderators and will provide scans or screenshots if necessary  - I noticed that he has had several accusations against him.

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May 10, 2013, 09:30:17 PM
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The scammer Joshter got the contract from John is this occasion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200433.0). And if it's the same contract (except personal details) as the one used by this CouragedOne (he is claiming his account was hacked, but I saw no post from him in that sense and he is clearly in possession of the account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201265.0), that means the scammers Joshter/MartinReynolds/CouragedOne are the same person.

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May 10, 2013, 09:32:15 PM
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The scammer Joshter got the contract from John is this occasion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200433.0). And if it's the same contract (except personal details) that the one used by this CouragedOne (he is claiming his account was hacked, but I saw no post from him in that sense and he is clearly in possession of the account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201265.0), that means the scammers Joshter/MartinReynolds/CouragedOne are the same person.

Nice eye Trading!

This is starting to look rather nasty for him, if he's lying about being hacked then he's in bigger trouble.

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May 10, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
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This is not business, it's personal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197457.0
Theymos justifies the tag of CouragedOne saying that he impersonated John: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112650
It seems this scammer doesn't learn easily. 10 minutes after getting his account CouragedOne tagged, comes again as Joshter and tries to do the same. If they are the same person, I hope Theymos will publish the IPs and all the emails of Joshter/MartinReynolds/CouragedOne.

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May 10, 2013, 09:52:09 PM
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This is not business, it's personal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197457.0
Theymos justifies the tag of CouragedOne saying that he impersonated John: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112650
It seems this scammer doesn't learn easily. 10 minutes after getting his account CouragedOne tagged, comes again as Joshter and tries to do the same. If they are the same person, I hope Theymos will publish the IPs and all the emails of Joshter/MartinReynolds/CouragedOne.

That would be nice, this is turning into not just a one off scam, but a chain of them.
He/she is a serial-scammer!
On a serious note, by publishing the ip address would be good, but I think he would just use a VPN service if he/she is determined.

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May 10, 2013, 09:55:14 PM
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I have decided to come clean, and repay.

If Bitcoin ever became widely used, we can all say we was in it from the start.
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May 10, 2013, 09:56:08 PM
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Yea, I am MartinReynolds but not CouragedOne

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May 10, 2013, 11:19:06 PM
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wow... Its like watching a soap opera............

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I have decided to come clean, and repay.

Why you decided to come clean?
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May 11, 2013, 12:25:55 AM
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hes banned now

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hes banned now

How many of his accounts are banned?
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