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July 27, 2017, 02:22:24 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313.msg20368185#msg20368185

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.
2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.


Hello,

To be honest, I am not very happy.

1. You called me a "terrorist" when you were keeping my balance. How funny..

2. You wrote that I was only looking for a scandal. I ended up writing a scam accusations because your co-admin ignored me, some of your mods were laughing at me and you asked me to deposit again to find a solution. You really have no shame...

3. You lied to everyone because you wrote that it was the first time this sort of issue happens. But when we started talking together in PM on Duckdice, you told me that this has already happened and you never refunded anyone.
How many people were just too shy to write a scam accusation against you? You will refund them, won't you?

4. And the funniest part : you can not revert my account to 23% bonus and 9.xx BTC balance. It is just you don't want to let the players win on your website. I deposited 2 BTC, my stats are + 5.088 BTC and I should be happy to get 2 BTC after 10 days ?

I'd like to thank the great bitcointalk community. Everyone who wrote a support message/ red trust on  their account before my message, I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund. You can send me your bitcoin addresses in PM. I will give those people some coins, because we did it all together.


 I have never been treated like that by the casino in my whole life. I strongly recommend to everyone here to avoid Duck Dice.

The case is half resolved.
We are happy u got your initial deposit back & thank u making us aware of their scam tactics

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July 27, 2017, 02:51:21 PM
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Good to see this outcome but NOT full resolution, because everyone helped 1 user get some justice. It is a shame that admin only got pressured into doing the right thing and did not apologise to the user. It's like the teacher forcing the bully to shake the hand of the victim. Anyway, the reputation is already damaged. Reputation is worth more than 2 BTC. More than any BTC.

My only concern now is people who were unaware of this. There could be future repercussions from this ugly mess that will affect players.

@OP. Please withdraw and confirm here you got your money back.

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July 27, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
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Good to see this outcome but NOT full resolution, because everyone helped 1 user get some justice. It is a shame that admin only got pressured into doing the right thing and did not apologise to the user. It's like the teacher forcing the bully to shake the hand of the victim. Anyway, the reputation is already damaged. Reputation is worth more than 2 BTC. More than any BTC.


You echo my thoughts exactly, which is why, for the time being at least, my rating will remain on the DuckDice forum account. They didn't do this (refund the 2 BTC) because they wanted to make things right - they truly believed they were right to begin with. Taking back the bonus while the player was in profit by several BTC, along with the deposit as well, is a sign of bad business ethics in my personal opinion - they only caved due to pressure from users in this thread, along with the ratings that myself and other users left them.

This is not to say that the tag will be permanent, I would be extremely pleased to see them implement a bonus system that is fair to both the house and the player. If they do this, and there are no further complaints over the next couple of months following the update against DuckDice, then I will be happy to remove the tag.

This is my final say on the matter.

My only payment address: 1ZephertJThxkHih7XcaUHBkMSnvkTt5u
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August 05, 2017, 12:53:09 PM
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Good morning,

I sent some btc to the people who sent me their address and helped me.

Again, the case is still half resolved. I appreciate the fact that DT members won't untag them like that. And don't take us for idiots again, are you trying to tell me that nobody ever cancel his bonus with a balance? If it was the case, how all the players in the chat knew that my balance was lost? They explained me that already happened and you did the same.  You have no shame again.

Your "terrorist"
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August 05, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
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Good morning,

I sent some btc to the people who sent me their address and helped me.


Hi there Ozafejyw782,

Thanks for being generous, even though you really didn't need to do such a thing.

How many people sent you a PM with their address? I won't ask you to name them, but I will say shame on those who took advantage of your offer - I doubt many of them would have done the same thing you did.

My only payment address: 1ZephertJThxkHih7XcaUHBkMSnvkTt5u
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August 05, 2017, 07:03:44 PM
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Good morning,

I sent some btc to the people who sent me their address and helped me.


Hi there Ozafejyw782,

Thanks for being generous, even though you really didn't need to do such a thing.

How many people sent you a PM with their address? I won't ask you to name them, but I will say shame on those who took advantage of your offer - I doubt many of them would have done the same thing you did.
Well I do agree taking  money in this kind of situation is not an OK thing . But I do not agree with ( shame on those ) part . He offered to give reward and some people agreed  to take it  .  And while it is not acceptable for you and me and some others to take that money . We do not have the right to call them out for it since Op is the one offered it .  


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August 06, 2017, 12:19:17 AM
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Hi there Ozafejyw782,

Thanks for being generous, even though you really didn't need to do such a thing.

How many people sent you a PM with their address? I won't ask you to name them, but I will say shame on those who took advantage of your offer - I doubt many of them would have done the same thing you did.
The $60 I have received do not compensate all the effort I have spent so far and all the harassment I have received, but he is the first who fulfilled his announcement to send some coins to those who helped him. Smiley

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The $60 I have received do not compensate all the effort I have spent so far and all the harassment I have received, but he is the first who fulfilled his announcement to send some coins to those who helped him. Smiley
You have serious mental problem. I suggest you to search for medical help.
In case you didn't notice, people here are trying to help without asking for money, and all I can hear from you is -give me the money for my help. To be honest with you no one is taking you serious.

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August 07, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
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The $60 I have received do not compensate all the effort I have spent so far and all the harassment I have received, but he is the first who fulfilled his announcement to send some coins to those who helped him. Smiley
You have serious mental problem. I suggest you to search for medical help.
Mr doctor, please also give me the name of my mental disease, so I can save the medical costs?

Or do you think the $60 are sufficient to pay the medical treatment?


In case you didn't notice, people here are trying to help without asking for money, and all I can hear from you is -give me the money for my help.
In case you did not notice,

1) I publicised a Duckdice.io scam article on Game Protect website that is listed on the first page and within the first entries on google.

To build up the Game Protect website and get scam articles listed on the first page and within the first entries took several 1000s hours of my time

2) I inform in my signature about the Duckdice.io scam and the value of my signature is worth at least $200 per month

3) If all the other people offer such a service cost free and pay the time and the price from their pocket, then I will immediately remove my service 1) + 2)

Show me?

4) Out of curiosity, did the help of the other people lead to get his remaining 6.76 BTC processed?

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August 08, 2017, 12:13:40 AM
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2) I inform in my signature about the Duckdice.io scam and the value of my signature is worth at least $200 per month
I'd assume I know a thing or two about signatures and their valuation.
You're delusional.


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August 09, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
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2) I inform in my signature about the Duckdice.io scam and the value of my signature is worth at least $200 per month
I'd assume I know a thing or two about signatures and their valuation.
You're delusional.
What do you think how much is the value of calling out publicly proven scams in the signature?

AFAIK I am the only one who do this, so no one else should have experience with it.

Could be a coincidence, but when I had the publicly proven Betcoin.ag scam! in my signature, within a few weeks their traffic on Alexa dropped for 65% and after I removed them, their traffic rised again.

And when I had the MegaDice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared! in my signature, their traffic dropped for 370% within a few weeks and when I removed them, their traffic rised again.

A lot of people were getting aware about MegaDice aka SatoshiDice and it was also referred to this article on reddit and twitter:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/67vhos/satoshidice_customers_roll_and_get_blind_snake/

https://twitter.com/edgelessproject/status/857647693031714818

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September 01, 2017, 07:00:37 AM
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Good morning,

I sent some btc to the people who sent me their address and helped me.

Again, the case is still half resolved. I appreciate the fact that DT members won't untag them like that. And don't take us for idiots again, are you trying to tell me that nobody ever cancel his bonus with a balance? If it was the case, how all the players in the chat knew that my balance was lost? They explained me that already happened and you did the same.  You have no shame again.

Your "terrorist"

I lost 47 LTC because of their "funny" bonus policy. I still have proof as you can see below
The following is what I asked to a mod in the chatroom

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hi
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I asked something to sv1rby but he told me to ask you
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about bonuses
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go ahead
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Look I deposited some ltc
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Now I see that all balance is locked
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hmm oke i dont know how it exactly works
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including profit. I know that in order to get the profit I have to wager the required amount. But I was wondering what if I cancel the bonus. Will I simply go back to my orginal deposit? because what I see in the cancel section is confusing a bit.
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if you cancel you will lose the whole locked balance
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so if your depo is in that , you will loose that too
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no way
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really
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?
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yep thats how it works, rolls are paid from thje balance, and winnings goes into the locked balance
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and there is one simple reason for that, what did you expect what should happen after you cancel ?
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I did not thaat
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I did not thaat
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well if you cancel the bonus direct you get the initial deposit because noting is locked
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I supposed we were going back to deposited balance
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that's not clear in the bonus rules
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so now either I lose everything or I lose everything
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*or win
17:58
if you going back to the deposit balance, they will be bankrupt after 1 day people go hunt big multipliers with the bonus amount and if they dont hit, they just cancel, get their initial deposit and deposit again
17:58
This should be explained better over there
17:59
thanks for clarifying
17:59
yep, admin should make that more clear, but it logical that is works this way

And to me that happened in May.

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September 01, 2017, 07:33:30 AM
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Good morning,

I sent some btc to the people who sent me their address and helped me.

Again, the case is still half resolved. I appreciate the fact that DT members won't untag them like that. And don't take us for idiots again, are you trying to tell me that nobody ever cancel his bonus with a balance? If it was the case, how all the players in the chat knew that my balance was lost? They explained me that already happened and you did the same.  You have no shame again.

Your "terrorist"

I lost 47 LTC because of their "funny" bonus policy. I still have proof as you can see below
The following is what I asked to a mod in the chatroom

And to me that happened in May.

Why havent you post the whole conversation??

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it is not if you read and deposit for the first time
05/12/17
I could have had 25 ltc for free now...
05/12/17
Now it's me against the bankroll
05/12/17
05/12/17
yep but is the locked balance > deposit
05/12/17
it is
05/12/17
I am on profit which I have to unlock
05/12/17
I will ask on the furum to make that clearer
05/12/17
have a good day
05/12/17
thanks
05/12/17
well i got a trick
05/12/17
?
05/12/17
just make a simple calculation, how much do you need to wager ?
05/12/17
wait
05/12/17
2863 LTC only......
05/12/17
and how much is your locked balance - orginal deposit?
05/12/17
124ish vs 47ish
05/12/17
so 124 - 47 = 77 profit
05/12/17
yes but 57 is a bonus
05/12/17
if you wager 2863 you will loose +/- 1% house edge so will be 30ltc
05/12/17
so if you would set the bot on 0.01 LTC on 1.25x and let it ruwn without any multiplier on loss, you will loose 30ltc
05/12/17
and still ends up with a nice profit without any risk
05/12/17
that's right
05/12/17
I think I will try to increase the profit a bit more
05/12/17
I thought something similar
05/12/17
I can't be on dice all day...
05/12/17
05/12/17
lol
05/12/17
thanks dre
05/12/17
I'll keep you posted
05/12/17
but is that 2883 wager the amount what you see or have you calculated that
05/12/17
I have made the difference of what it says on the balance
05/12/17
ok but a roll counts for 50% so you need to double that amount
05/12/17
yep
05/12/17
so you need to keep that in mind calculating the wager
05/12/17
I just always calculate how much i have left to wager and m profit and then unlock it wihtout any risk people go bust always because they dont want to loose any
05/12/17
look the unlock amount is 3167ltc
05/12/17
I wagered 312
05/12/17
so will loose around 32 ltc so still profit
05/12/17
even one ltc profit is good
05/12/17
I did not want to lock all these funds
05/12/17
but anyway
05/12/17
thanks for the advice

Now you are saying here you had the same so that you cancelled the bonus. I told you there how you could unlock it safe without any risk.

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September 01, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
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Why havent you post the whole conversation??
Because it's irrelevant to the fact that the bonus terms were missing information; the conditions did not display the whole truth.

Now you are saying here you had the same so that you cancelled the bonus. I told you there how you could unlock it safe without any risk.
'without any risk' is misleading. It's still risky, every single time a user places a wager. In fact, regardless of whatever strategy is implemented, there is still a -57.1 LTC ev associated with the remaining wager amount. (According to the old conditions and the chatlog)

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September 01, 2017, 12:06:30 PM
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Actmyname is completely right:

To fulfil the wagering requirement is not unlock the account balance safe without any risk!

The bonus term said: "You can cancel bonus at any time"

And this clearly refers to a click |Cancel Bonus| feature, because you can not fulfil the wagering requirement at any time.

But instead of canceling the bonus, they canceled the whole balance!

Why would someone agree to cancel his whole balance if it contains deposit + winnings + bonus?

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September 01, 2017, 01:55:48 PM
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@dre1982
It's good you posted it all. I have no problem with that.
I started playing thinking that the bonus was working in one way: when I wanted to go back I realized that there was no coming back.
Either winning or losing everything.
And I lost.

I don't want my LTC back even though a small compensation should be given to players in my situation.

You see, in the real life if you sign a contract and then you put a new rule that goes against one of the parties without notifying, you get troubles.
This is what happened with your bonus system.

That's it.

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September 28, 2017, 07:12:38 PM
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I wish I saw this thread before I started using DuckDice.

I was also just recently scammed for all the BTC that I had deposited into DuckDice.

This is the situation and the message that I sent to DuckDice Support:

"Hello, I recently joined DuckDice (just yesterday), but I have encountered an error or something that stole pretty much all of my BTC.

Now that I see that there is a slot for attachments, I really wish I took a screenshot, but I will just try to explain instead.

I was betting around 10 Satoshis to 10000 Satoshis, and In a single bet the abosulute MAXIMUM that I would lose would potentially be 0.001 BTC, Of course depending on many different factors.

But then suddenly I lost 0.06 BTC on a single bet! Three times in a row!

How did this happen!?

It was on auto bet and the bot was playing by itself. Everything was running perfectly smooth for an hour or so, and then I just left it to run for awhile.

When I returned, no more than 2 hours later, it had completely run out of funds, and the 3 most recent losses were for 0.06 BTC each.

What? How?!

Please please get my Bitcoin back! I feel completely cheated and I just dont understand how this possibly could have happened. There was absolutely no possible way that it should have lost that much from a single bet! Let alone three times in a row!

None of the parameters were set high enough for that to possibly happen. It was not set high enough to allow bets of that size, so I have absolutely no idea why or how it chose to bet 0.06 BTC in a single bet. Three times in a row.

Please get my BTC back! I should receive 0.18 BTC. That is how much I had originally until the auto-bet decided to use it all without my permission.

I did not allow the auto-bet to issue bets of that high amount. I am completely confused and I feel absolutely cheated. There was no possible way that it should have been betting 0.00001000 BTC for over an hour, and then suddenly issue three bets of 0.06 BTC.

Please help! Thank you so much!"


Unfortunately, no replies at all.

I feel horrible. I lost all my BTC that I had deposited within seconds of a rogue auto-bet bot.  Cry
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September 28, 2017, 07:36:58 PM
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I wish I saw this thread before I started using DuckDice.

I was also just recently scammed for all the BTC that I had deposited into DuckDice.

This is the situation and the message that I sent to DuckDice Support:

"Hello, I recently joined DuckDice (just yesterday), but I have encountered an error or something that stole pretty much all of my BTC.

Now that I see that there is a slot for attachments, I really wish I took a screenshot, but I will just try to explain instead.

I was betting around 10 Satoshis to 10000 Satoshis, and In a single bet the abosulute MAXIMUM that I would lose would potentially be 0.001 BTC, Of course depending on many different factors.

But then suddenly I lost 0.06 BTC on a single bet! Three times in a row!

How did this happen!?

It was on auto bet and the bot was playing by itself. Everything was running perfectly smooth for an hour or so, and then I just left it to run for awhile.

When I returned, no more than 2 hours later, it had completely run out of funds, and the 3 most recent losses were for 0.06 BTC each.

What? How?!

Please please get my Bitcoin back! I feel completely cheated and I just dont understand how this possibly could have happened. There was absolutely no possible way that it should have lost that much from a single bet! Let alone three times in a row!

None of the parameters were set high enough for that to possibly happen. It was not set high enough to allow bets of that size, so I have absolutely no idea why or how it chose to bet 0.06 BTC in a single bet. Three times in a row.

Please get my BTC back! I should receive 0.18 BTC. That is how much I had originally until the auto-bet decided to use it all without my permission.

I did not allow the auto-bet to issue bets of that high amount. I am completely confused and I feel absolutely cheated. There was no possible way that it should have been betting 0.00001000 BTC for over an hour, and then suddenly issue three bets of 0.06 BTC.

Please help! Thank you so much!"


Unfortunately, no replies at all.

I feel horrible. I lost all my BTC that I had deposited within seconds of a rogue auto-bet bot.  Cry

Was that using the web's auto bet?

What were your settings exactly?

The bets ids?
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September 28, 2017, 07:45:17 PM
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I wish I saw this thread before I started using DuckDice.

I was also just recently scammed for all the BTC that I had deposited into DuckDice.

This is the situation and the message that I sent to DuckDice Support:

"Hello, I recently joined DuckDice (just yesterday), but I have encountered an error or something that stole pretty much all of my BTC.

Now that I see that there is a slot for attachments, I really wish I took a screenshot, but I will just try to explain instead.

I was betting around 10 Satoshis to 10000 Satoshis, and In a single bet the abosulute MAXIMUM that I would lose would potentially be 0.001 BTC, Of course depending on many different factors.

But then suddenly I lost 0.06 BTC on a single bet! Three times in a row!

How did this happen!?

It was on auto bet and the bot was playing by itself. Everything was running perfectly smooth for an hour or so, and then I just left it to run for awhile.

When I returned, no more than 2 hours later, it had completely run out of funds, and the 3 most recent losses were for 0.06 BTC each.

What? How?!

Please please get my Bitcoin back! I feel completely cheated and I just dont understand how this possibly could have happened. There was absolutely no possible way that it should have lost that much from a single bet! Let alone three times in a row!

None of the parameters were set high enough for that to possibly happen. It was not set high enough to allow bets of that size, so I have absolutely no idea why or how it chose to bet 0.06 BTC in a single bet. Three times in a row.

Please get my BTC back! I should receive 0.18 BTC. That is how much I had originally until the auto-bet decided to use it all without my permission.

I did not allow the auto-bet to issue bets of that high amount. I am completely confused and I feel absolutely cheated. There was no possible way that it should have been betting 0.00001000 BTC for over an hour, and then suddenly issue three bets of 0.06 BTC.

Please help! Thank you so much!"


Unfortunately, no replies at all.

I feel horrible. I lost all my BTC that I had deposited within seconds of a rogue auto-bet bot.  Cry

Was that using the web's auto bet?

What were your settings exactly?

The bets ids?

Thats part of the problem. I cant look back far enough in my history to see the 3 bets where it lost 0.06 BTC.

But yes, I was using the web auto bet, and the settings were just a simple 0.0001 BTC at a 65% chance.

Win multiplier 1. Loss multiplier 1.

I cant see it in my history because it did those 3 bets, and then about 20 more "normal" bets before it ran out of funds.

I didnt stop it in time to be able to take a pic of the 3 rogue bets, which is why im scared, because I doubt anyone is going to believe me

I only came back and saw the 3 losses just seconds before they disappeared from the most recent history
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September 28, 2017, 08:39:20 PM
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Weird story. Haven't seen 3 0.06 losses in HR tab. And you let it run 20 more minutes after those bets.  Huh

I have informed admins and they are busy with it now.

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