[ANN] Ripple++

[Come-from-Beyond]

Following the tradition to announce the launch of a new altcoin in advance, and in continuation of my previous thread...

...I'd like to announce the launch of Ripple++, which will happen soon.

For those who r asking themselves why they should jump to this bandwagon a small comparison below:

	__________Ripple++__________	__________	__________Ripple__________	____________________Note____________________
Transaction confirmation time:	Almost instant	=	Almost instant	-
Hosting expenses:	0 *	>	Unknown	* Within GAE free quotas
Availability of the service:	99.999% *	>	Unknown	* Hosted in Google Cloud
Security:	Thru obscurity	=	Thru obscurity	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
User interface:	Very simple	>	Quite complicated	-
Distribution of coins:	Depends on computing power *	>	100% premine	* Like in Bitcoin
Is REAL money?:	No	=	Noone knows	-
Vulnerability to Sybil attack:	High	=	High *	* Ripple's protection is very doubtful
Open-source:	Kinda *	=	Kinda *	* Will be published soon not very soon in 100 years
Risk of dump:	Very low	>	Very high *	* OpenCoin can dump all their coins if Ripple comes close to a collapse
Total rating:	10 / 10	>	5 / 10

Those who wish to run their own node could start learning how to host Java application in Google App Engine.

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[Come-from-Beyond]

Here is a prototype of the interface:

[ymer]

If this is true this is gonna be so much fun.

[Come-from-Beyond]

If this is true this is gonna be so much fun.

Real fun will come later, when I publish the sources and everybody starts making their own ripples...

[anti-scam]

So this is basically just a test implementation? I can respect that.

[blastbob]

Nipple Ripple

[cryptocancer]

  Watching closely....

[muddafudda]

Reserved

[syn999]

taking space

[Narken]

Nice. when will it be released ?

[Jakewell]

Reserved

[TheSwede75]

Exciting. Considering the 'idea' behind Ripple is good, but completely ruined by the 100% premine scam and obvious pump and dump possibility of the developers/owners having 100 billion ripple at hand.

[FTWbitcoinFTW]

Real fun will come later, when I publish the sources and everybody starts making their own ripples...

THIS

Everybody should make is own ripple and send trust only with that !

[Come-from-Beyond]

I've got a few PMs regarding Ripple++. I wish to state that I'm not a Ripple hater, if it really works then I will, likely, support it.

[Theraty]

You can now trade ripples with BTC at therocktrading.com

You buy Ripple for USD at www.bitstamp.net

[kokjo]

You can now trade ripples with BTC at therocktrading.com

You buy Ripple for USD at www.bitstamp.net

...and thats just sad.

[jubalix]

Ripples going to love this....!!!

may make them hurry it all up a bit

[Theraty]

You can now trade ripples with BTC at therocktrading.com

You buy Ripple for USD at www.bitstamp.net

...and thats just sad.

Any better alternatives?

[wiggi]

If Ripple++ depends on computing power like Bitcoin why is it still vulnerable to Sybil attack?

[Come-from-Beyond]

If Ripple++ depends on computing power like Bitcoin why is it still vulnerable to Sybil attack?

Mining needs computing power. Consensus uses other approach.

[Korbman]

Following the tradition to announce the launch of a new altcoin in advance, and in continuation of my previous thread...

...I'd like to announce the launch of Ripple++, which will happen soon.

[...]

Those who wish to run their own node could start learning how to host Java application in Google App Engine.

Please tell me this isn't just a parody thread and will actually come to fruition

[Come-from-Beyond]

Please tell me this isn't just a parody thread and will actually come to fruition

It's not a parody thread.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Guys, I need ur help to test the interface on mobile phones.

If u r willing to help, go to https://ripplepp.appspot.com, please.
U r supposed to click [Login] and enter a secret phrase.
After u press [OK] the browser will generate RSA keys and send a request to the server.
I need to know how much time it takes to generate the keys (approximately) and if "0 XXX" appears in "Balance".

Thank you in advance.


EDIT: Don't launch minting, it's not implemented yet.

[e521]

this is going to be fun! ahah

[seleme]

Mining will be done via web interface?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Mining will be done via web interface?

Yes. This project is for testing, no need to use ASICs. 

[syn999]

Mining will be done via web interface?

Yes. This project is for testing, no need to use ASICs. 

any chance for cpu

[Come-from-Beyond]

any chance for cpu

A web browser uses CPU, so it's already for CPU.

[Akka]

If u r willing to help, go to https://ripplepp.appspot.com, please.
U r supposed to click [Login] and enter a secret phrase.
After u press [OK] the browser will generate RSA keys and send a request to the server.
I need to know how much time it takes to generate the keys (approximately) and if "0 XXX" appears in "Balance".

Thank you in advance.

How long will this roughly take, I candled it after about five minutes, when I started it I thought you wanted me to stop the seconds it takes  

[Come-from-Beyond]

How long will this roughly take, I candled it after about fife minutes, when I started it I thought you wanted me to stop the seconds it takes 

It takes a couple of seconds on my PC.

[Akka]

Strange, I tried it two additional times with different phrases (thought I maybe had encountered a bug as I used a ü the first time).

CPU usage goes to 100%, browser becomes unresponsive and it takes forever.

Well, as you are probably using Linux we just blame it on Microsoft  

[Come-from-Beyond]

Strange, I tried it two additional times with different phrases (thought I maybe had encountered a bug as I used a ü the first time).

CPU usage goes to 100%, browser becomes unresponsive and it takes forever.

Well, as you are probably using Linux we just blame it on Microsoft  

I use Windows 7.
What the browser was that?

[Akka]

Strange, I tried it two additional times with different phrases (thought I maybe had encountered a bug as I used a ü the first time).

CPU usage goes to 100%, browser becomes unresponsive and it takes forever.

Well, as you are probably using Linux we just blame it on Microsoft  

I use Windows 7.
What the browser was that?

Windows 7

Firefox 20.0.1

[Come-from-Beyond]

Firefox 20.0.1

Thx, perhaps I'll add "Google Chrome" as a requirement, coz the issue is somewhere inside the code written by other guy.

[Korbman]

Please tell me this isn't just a parody thread and will actually come to fruition

It's not a parody thread.

Wonderful!

Guys, I need ur help to test the interface on mobile phones.

If u r willing to help, go to https://ripplepp.appspot.com, please.
U r supposed to click [Login] and enter a secret phrase.
After u press [OK] the browser will generate RSA keys and send a request to the server.
I need to know how much time it takes to generate the keys (approximately) and if "0 XXX" appears in "Balance".

Thank you in advance.

On my PC [Windows 7 64-bit] using the latest version of Google Chrome, it took about 5 seconds.
On my phone [Droid RAZR Maxx; Android version 4.1.2] it took about 2 minutes or so to generate the key (using Google Chrome again).

[Come-from-Beyond]

On my PC [Windows 7 64-bit] using the latest version of Google Chrome, it took about 5 seconds.
On my phone [Droid RAZR Maxx; Android version 4.1.2] it took about 2 minutes or so to generate the key (using Google Chrome again).

Thank you. 2 mins is too much. I think Ripple++ won't work on phones, so I won't develop mobile version.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Let's test hashing now - https://ripplepp.appspot.com.
My hashrate is 4.2 kh/s in average, but my PC is not very old. I'd like to know what hashrate others have, maybe I will change the difficulty algo.
PS: Coins r not minted yet, it's just dumb number crunching.

[svost]

VMWare W7 1CPU Xeon E5620 2.4GHz - 3.1 Kh/s

PS. it is Chrome-only app?

[seleme]

my firefox dies painfully whenever I try to log in.

DOn't understand the login process, is it always going to be like this or what.

[seleme]

btw, 2.7kh, i3 4 cores on chrome

[xilin]

lol simple interface

[fawi]

2.6-3.4 kh/s chrome on win xp / Athlon 64 x2 5000+

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Will you fix this please which is a inherit feature in Ripple?

[Korbman]

Let's test hashing now - https://ripplepp.appspot.com.
My hashrate is 4.2 kh/s in average, but my PC is not very old. I'd like to know what hashrate others have, maybe I will change the difficulty algo.
PS: Coins r not minted yet, it's just dumb number crunching.

2.9-3.4 kh/s - PC is 3 years old now, working with an AMD Athlon II X4 635 2.9GHz [Quad Core].
3.0-3.5 kh/s - Work laptop (2 years old), a Dell Latitude E6520 running an Intel i5-2410M 2.30GHz [Dual Core].
Doesn't run on my phone after clicking 'Start'..just kinda sits there and nothing happens.

[jubalix]

how do i know this is not some sort of scam to get data on my computer

[idev]

my firefox dies painfully whenever I try to log in.

DOn't understand the login process, is it always going to be like this or what.

Yea that's what i get too.

[Coinbuck @ BTCLot]

how do i know this is not some sort of scam to get data on my computer

You can see the client side js.

[jubalix]

is this a botnet to cpu mine YAC or RC or somehting

[jubalix]

how do i know this is not some sort of scam to get data on my computer

You can see the client side js.

yeah but the cryptico.min.js is almost un readable

[Come-from-Beyond]

PS. it is Chrome-only app?

Yes.

my firefox dies painfully whenever I try to log in.

DOn't understand the login process, is it always going to be like this or what.

Looks like FireFox is not supported.

Will you fix this please which is a inherit feature in Ripple?

If I see that R.I.P.ple's consensus doesn't work, I won't bother with fixes.

is this a botnet to cpu mine YAC or RC or somehting

No, u can check JS-files and see that it uses SHA-3.

how do i know this is not some sort of scam to get data on my computer

You can see the client side js.

yeah but the cryptico.min.js is almost un readable

Look at https://github.com/wwwtyro/cryptico


@Others:

Thank you for hashrate info. I think I'll leave difficulty unchanged.

[svost]

NVidia Tegra3 Android 4.1 (Asus TF300TG)

Login procedure ~30 sec.
Speed ~ 0.7KH/s

[Come-from-Beyond]

NVidia Tegra3 Android 4.1 (Asus TF300TG)

Login procedure ~30 sec.
Speed ~ 0.7KH/s

Some tablets can run Ripple++, neat.

[Francesco]

Mhh, I don't understand how it can be like Ripple -it's too simple. Can I send USD IOUs?

Do you mean it's like the XRP part of Ripple? If so, it's just an odd alt-coin. But that's not the main point of Ripple.

Anyway, I like there being competition... my 2.3Kh/s are at your service, for now 

[Come-from-Beyond]

Mhh, I don't understand how it can be like Ripple -it's too simple. Can I send USD IOUs?

U can't. I'm going to implement only XRP.

[finway]

This is really fun.
1.7kh/s
no coins show up.

[Come-from-Beyond]

This is really fun.
1.7kh/s
no coins show up.

It's just hash testing. Minting not implemented yet.

[jubalix]

4 Khahs intel i5 4core 2.5 ghz

[Come-from-Beyond]

I've added minting. Welcome to test it.

Click here to see general statistics of Ripple++. "totalSupply" shows how much XXX already exists.

[ribal]

965BE @4ghz doing 5.3-5.5 khs, but not minting?

[e521]

2.5-3kh/s on i3, last chrome version, w7 64

[Come-from-Beyond]

965BE @4ghz doing 5.3-5.5 khs, but not minting?

Difficulty is 10'000'000. U have to mint ~30 minutes to get coins.

[ribal]

965BE @4ghz doing 5.3-5.5 khs, but not minting?

Difficulty is 10'000'000. U have to mint ~30 minutes to get coins.

I see. It has been running for about 20min now

[Come-from-Beyond]

I see. It has been running for about 20min now

Minting is single-threaded. U can open 2+ tabs with Ripple++ page and mint in all of them.

[ribal]

I see. It has been running for about 20min now

Minting is single-threaded. U can open 2+ tabs with Ripple++ page and mint in all of them.

Thx for advice. It works, Balance   2999971 XXX

[Korbman]

I see. It has been running for about 20min now

Minting is single-threaded. U can open 2+ tabs with Ripple++ page and mint in all of them.

Ah, interesting. Giving it a go now.

EDIT: Hmm..it's been 3 hours now and nothing has happened..soooo

[Come-from-Beyond]

Thank you, guys, for the help. I found a few minor bugs related to GAE database. I need some time to fix them.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Well, I spent a few days reading about Ripple consensus. Also, I talked to some guys regarding the issue. The resume is - Ripple consensus is bullshit. It's vulnerable to Sybil attack and there is no way to counteract it without centralization.

So, Ripple is a premined centralized coin. I won't waste my time trying to "fix" it. Period.