Is BitcoinCash a joke?

[RealBitcoin]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

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[Xavofat]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

[BitcoinBarrel]

It sure sounds like a joke "Bitcoin Cash" 

After this whole debacle, they might as well re-name it to "Bitcoin Crash" because that's what BCC price is going to do. Then it will recover to be just like all the other "alt-coins" out there.

Bitcoin is King!

[-ck]

Yes

[flippener]

You may be right, but I won't be turning down free altcoins.

[Quantus]

yes

XT, Unlimited, classic, BTC1, Bitcoin Cash... boy do you people have a short memory.

[sweetbet]

I hope so.

[mk4]

I personally wouldn't go as far as calling them a joke just because they don't agree with having segwit, and just because they have a different proposed solution. And also just becausr they are the minority.

Eitherway, I think divided communities is expected when talking about having decentralization.

[25hashcoin]

No. It's extremely serious and should be observed by all.

[bitllionaire]

I personally wouldn't go as far as calling them a joke just because they don't agree with having segwit, and just because they have a different proposed solution. And also just becausr they are the minority.

Eitherway, I think divided communities is expected when talking about having decentralization.

i think we should not consider it as a joke because bitcoin now play important part in our life and we cannot ignore the importance of bitcoin in our life, because bitcoin is now giving livelihood to many families.

[Uberse]

Does anyone if BitcoinCash contains the malleability-problem fix that SegWit has? If it doesn't, it's dead. You couldn't use LN, right?

[williamuk]

Does anyone if BitcoinCash contains the malleability-problem fix that SegWit has? If it doesn't, it's dead. You couldn't use LN, right?

Wrong

Also:

- With segwit, block sizes that were 1Mb will become 2Mb average (up to 4Mb). So much for decentralisation and those node runners with low specs connectivity and hardware...

- LN itself is a transaction layer that would sit on top of bitcoin but also a number of other currencies (at least 4 others I've come across). LN is what people would transact with rendering the underlying currencies, in time, irrelevant (and removing bitcoin's value as a currency in the process)

- A big subject of contention is also as far as I understand, about fees. Bitcoin Core wants miners to give a 75% discount for transactions to and from LN (the LN service would of course require fees...). Assuming all transactions went through LN and existing fees cover the miners' economic costs of processing transactions it would require that native bitcoin fees go up by a factor of 4 to cover the deficit

- There is no solid logic I have come across that would require bitcoin block sizes to stay at or below 1Mb. The original design allowed for block size growth. The extent of the efforts put into stopping bitcoin from growing and scaling natively is not meaningfully and maturely explained. Segwit proves that keeping block size low is NOT an issue.

- Segwith, LN technologies are at least in part patended by one or more private companies including Blockstream, a company that employs people at the top of the bitcoin core development team. These people are, as far as I know, hiding the nature of their patents.   How does that fit with bitcoin's decentralised, open source nature and philosophy? Since when are open source developers supposed to behave that way?

Something is very wrong with bitcoin's governance and that raises fundamental questions about it's future.

At least we know miners' motivations: they want to make as much money as possible from bitcoin and for that they need it to succeed.

The bitcoin core leadership and the companies they are associated with seem to focus mostly on developing other technologies and on making sure bitcoin won't scale natively. What is their motivation, what are their vested interests? Is it about development as they claim to some or is it about being in business for themselves?

[BitWhale]

It's not intended as a joke, but it is pretty humorous to watch them try.

Personally, you'd think if they were going for the kill they would've at least picked a better name.

Bitcoin Cash. Why not Bitcash? Bitmoney?

No lets go with a name that sounds super redundant like Bitcoin Cash...

That being said, I'll hold my free BCC. Things get pumped, BCC will have its day just like every other altcoin this season.

[gmaxwell]

Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

LOL.  As if...

In realty they've made a hundred tiny commits "reformatting" a couple lines here and there, seemingly to obfuscate the changes.

The diff against the Bitcoin Core they forked from is:  551 files changed, 54096 insertions(+), 47943 deletions(-)

The diff against Bitcoin Core master is:  813 files changed, 76156 insertions(+), 63863 deletions(-)

Does anyone if BitcoinCash contains the malleability-problem fix that SegWit has?

It doesn't, its still fully vulnerable to tx malleability.  Though it does copy the signature hashing algorithm from segwit (LOL so much for their concern trolling about segwit being 'patented')  it applies it in a way that leaves the malleability problems.

[aso118]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

The Bitcoin Cash held by the forum won't be exchanged for bitcoins. I wouldn't ask you to write the idea off completely.
If Bitcoin doesn't handle scaling well, we could see some tired people heading for Bitcoin Cash.

[zarados]

May be its more a bluff than a joke. Once,I think BCC is an abbreviation of bitcoin classic, but it turns out BCC is bitcoin cash  , as other members say, with a blocksize segwit from 1 MB to 2MB, suddenly anyone doing 8MB hardfork on 1st August? That's even 4 times of 2MB, do you believe this? If it is true, should we need to take it into account in making a decision before 1 August arrives. Whether this includes action to replace the current position of the king (bitcoin).

[Ikron]

With the BIP91 looking stable, seems that BCC would be just in the piles with the other alts.
But if it suddenly turns around laughing at us in the future-then I would reconsider myself in front of a mirror.

[BTC-BTC-BTC]

I don't see there is a team working on the project anywhere.

[erep]

I heard there are some exchanges which already give your these coins by holding your Bitcoins. You can actually trade them which doesnt even exist. I am still thinking of claiming it but decrypting your wallet is not a good thing for me.

[RealBitcoin]

yes

XT, Unlimited, classic, BTC1, Bitcoin Cash... boy do you people have a short memory.

They are just rebranding the same failed project over and over again, aren't they?

It looks to me that they are desperate to gain control over BTC, but it's not happening though.

I personally wouldn't go as far as calling them a joke just because they don't agree with having segwit, and just because they have a different proposed solution. And also just becausr they are the minority.

Eitherway, I think divided communities is expected when talking about having decentralization.

Ok good point, but you can't take them seriously if they rebrand their project every few months.

Was their software tested in a testnet? Wast it reviewed by security experts? I don.t think so, so how can we trust them with 40 billion $ then?

[Lucky7btc]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

Bitcoin was the TEST run and BCC will be the new king of the cashless society. Get ready to accept your mark

[groko271]

yes

XT, Unlimited, classic, BTC1, Bitcoin Cash... boy do you people have a short memory.

Well said. That's the problem here, short memories. Somehow people think something different will happen even thought the circumstances are exactly the same. So lame. To be honest, Im sick of this conversation and cant wait for August 1st so the lessons can be learnt again.

My question is, who wants a coin that major exchanges won't list?

[dothebeats]

A few line changes from Core, put some new codes here and there. Rush it a little bit and voila! We have Bitcoin Cash. How often do we see other versions of bitcoin from minorities that are unsatisfied of what the main code can deliver?

I'm just gonna put this here...



+1 for Bitcoin Cash team for tryharding.

[gmaxwell]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6pxs4p/sipas_schnorr_code_deleted_from_secp256k1_emerged/

Apparently copying isn't enough for them, they apparently feel the need to rip off the authorship information and tack on their own name.

[franky1]

from what i have read bitcoincash meant to be a bilateral split (an accepted and obvious altcoin)

so with that said. it just seems like drama

gmax loves to decline being part of any code when things go wrong, so why care.
its open source decentralised so anyone is free to copy and use it anyway.

i would laugh if they did put gmax's company name into the code...
but then ofcourse everyone would see gmax cry and scream to get it taken away because he does not want to be seen as part of their project.

gmax would scream blue murder that he does not endorse or promote the code. and would then scream to not trust the code anyway because in his eyes its not been peer reviewed by his company. nor is it gmax's code due to all the "551 files changed, 54096 insertions(+), 47943 deletions(-)" changes which makes it no longer his companies code.

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in short gmax is creating drama where attributed or not gmax will complain either way

in very short
gmax is a drama queen

to gmax
how about stop being a corporate economist and go back to being a programmer.
how about actually work on a tx fee priority formulae, instead of shouting "just pay more" and then finding ways to bloat the blockchain with your "ct pedersen commitments"

and then
if you really wanna be anal about attributions then write cores 'copyrights' list with EVERY contributor. meaning comment every line of code with a tribute to who wrote it.

or
how about realise that bitcoin should be owned by no single party/team

and stop trying to be a controlfreak, emphasis on control...though im sure your drama queen qualities will take issue with the freak mention

[RealBitcoin]

from what i have read bitcoincash meant to be a bilateral split (an accepted and obvious altcoin)
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Let's just set aside the drama for a moment. I know you want big blocks and let's not debate that for now.

What I want to ask you, is regardless of the big block debate. But do you really think that a bitcoin client so new such as BitcoinCash is a responsible way to upgrade the network?

It was probably never reviewed and audited by security experts, I don't think they even have a testnet to test things. So it's almost like they want people to blindly trust their software.

How can you take something like that seriously? Especially when 40 billion $ is involved?

[giveen]

It sure sounds like a joke "Bitcoin Cash" 

After this whole debacle, they might as well re-name it to "Bitcoin Crash" because that's what BCC price is going to do. Then it will recover to be just like all the other "alt-coins" out there.

Bitcoin is King!

Hehe i agree with you people are currently over hyped about bitcoin cash and surely this drama will continue for few months but later we what's the result

The coin will be listed somewhere on coinmarket site and most likely people will trade it for a while and finally in end it will get dumped.
The chance of bitcoin crash making it far is really less

[wantjokull]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

But don't you think copying just someone's code and modifying it can be done by almost every coder. If this is the case then everyone will start creating new bitcoin coin and will try to perform big hard forks. This will just rip off the basis of bitcoin and its working. I'm sure there involves lot of other things other than just copying the code itself.

No, not everyone will trust the new currency as long as it is being loved by new developers for may be "testing".

But investors might find it little hesitating to invest into it at all. To me BCC looks just a creation of curiosity which won't be getting any investment real soon. It will get attraction of many people but through the long run of time that too if people think that it is worth to invest.

[traderethereum]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

But don't you think copying just someone's code and modifying it can be done by almost every coder. If this is the case then everyone will start creating new bitcoin coin and will try to perform big hard forks. This will just rip off the basis of bitcoin and its working. I'm sure there involves lot of other things other than just copying the code itself.

No, not everyone will trust the new currency as long as it is being loved by new developers for may be "testing".

But investors might find it little hesitating to invest into it at all. To me BCC looks just a creation of curiosity which won't be getting any investment real soon. It will get attraction of many people but through the long run of time that too if people think that it is worth to invest.

i think not all people can start to create new bitcoin coin because yes they have skill to modify the code but did they have good relationship with other people? did they have community to convinced that they can create something which is better than bitcoin? if this is so, then i think in that community or whatever it called, there will be one person or more that will not receive the idea and against with the coder because they think its not the original idea and only copycat.

sometime when we copying the code, it can makes the process and the progress works perfectly and even better than the original but all of this thing is depend on how people give their supports. they will judge if its better or not if compare with the original. and related with BTC and BCC, let people decide what they want and se what will happen in the market.

[Xenrise]

Well I hope so. I really do not support bcc myself. I doubt it, really. For me it is a threat for everbody. I've read a thread saying, that it threatens the time of transaction, it adds 8 mb of transaction of bitcoin. So this doesn't really get my support.

[RealBitcoin]

Well I hope so. I really do not support bcc myself. I doubt it, really. For me it is a threat for everbody. I've read a thread saying, that it threatens the time of transaction, it adds 8 mb of transaction of bitcoin. So this doesn't really get my support.

Yes this is true, if they want a 8mb coin, then they should create an altcoin and stop stealing Bitcoin's brand.

Bitcoin will probably remain small block. If they dont like this, they should create another altcoin there are hundreds more, why not use those?

[eternalgloom]

It sure sounds like a joke "Bitcoin Cash" 

After this whole debacle, they might as well re-name it to "Bitcoin Crash" because that's what BCC price is going to do. Then it will recover to be just like all the other "alt-coins" out there.

Bitcoin is King!

The thing is that some of these "other altcoins out there" have a pretty decent value, also compared to Bitcoin.
BCC has some pretty powerful backers and I'm sure that it could thrive under the right set of circumstances.

A crash is indeed to be expected, as a lot of people will be selling their BCC right away.
I'm going to hold on to mine and see after a couple of months what they're worth.

[CryptosapienZA]

Personally, i dont know if they are a joke. I dont think their "complaints" are unreasonable. I do think both parties handled this poorly.I am trying to be as neutral as I can in this situation.  But I am wondering though, if they are a joke why is everyone talking about them. I mean look at new posts here on the BitcoinTalk/Reddit/Twitter, it seems they are the only thing we seem to be posting about. I just hope we wont end up being THE joke. In the end I do think Bitcoin will survive this, but the current environment is toxic. I cant wait for all this to pass.

[Paashaas]

BCC is one major joke/bluff. If Jihan had some balls he would moved 40% of his hashpower into BU..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6pxs4p/sipas_schnorr_code_deleted_from_secp256k1_emerged/

Apparently copying isn't enough for them, they apparently feel the need to rip off the authorship information and tack on their own name.

Really? I'm shocked to see this kind of retardness

[classicsucks]

I don't see there is a team working on the project anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0w43NQdiY

This dude Amaury actually seems pretty sharp. I was impressed by his analogy of blocksize limit = "Google saying they won't do anymore searches today because the capacity has been reached", LOL.

As far as BCC succeeding, it will depend on how hard Segwit fails... Given that 10% of global hashpower is committed to mining BCC, I'd say it's a bit more serious than a typical shitcoin... Also it sneaked in the back door of hundreds of Bitcoin exchanges, because "exchanges denying access to peoples' free tokens" caused a minor rage-fest... Even if BCC/USD falls to $1, people still want their free money!

All in all, a well-timed play, and a big middle finger to all of the foaming-at-the-mouth Segwit devotees... Sorry boys, no offense... Personally I was really appalled at all of the UASF flag-waving behavior.

[countryfree]

Yes, it's a joke.

It's bitcoin for losers.

[JohnCryptonian]

Being quite new to this Bitcoin thing, I have read that Bitcoincash is being applied by some people that are not really effective enough because they are only a few. In this case, I think that it's better to stick the original but I won't say that BitcoinCash is a joke. They are just making that to make more money, I guess. They are just people desperate for more money and too lazy to do actual work.

[TheRakula]

Yes. It's absolutely a joke.

[bcsuisse]

it is not a joke. if bitcoin cash gets 25% of the hashing power it will have higher tps than bitcoin !

[CrypticGambit]

Well i don't believe in bitcoin cash, I hope it goes to 0

[error08]

it is not a joke. if bitcoin cash gets 25% of the hashing power it will have higher tps than bitcoin !

What is it, tps?
Bitcoin is different with bitcoin cash, every miner can choose to mine one or both of it.
But the main thing that play most important role is "usability", we know bitcoin dominance in the market and how it's already used in various sectors.
As we know bitcoin cash run in different blockchain, so it just an altcoin. We will see how the market react to this new coin. If bitcoin cash could rise again compare to current price, then I will sell it.

[bcsuisse]

it is not a joke. if bitcoin cash gets 25% of the hashing power it will have higher tps than bitcoin !

What is it, tps?
Bitcoin is different with bitcoin cash, every miner can choose to mine one or both of it.
But the main thing that play most important role is "usability", we know bitcoin dominance in the market and how it's already used in various sectors.
As we know bitcoin cash run in different blockchain, so it just an altcoin. We will see how the market react to this new coin. If bitcoin cash could rise again compare to current price, then I will sell it.

if the hashing power goes to bcc. bcc with be BTC and btc will go to 0.
I dont support bcc, but I will hold them and see what happens

[error08]

it is not a joke. if bitcoin cash gets 25% of the hashing power it will have higher tps than bitcoin !

What is it, tps?
Bitcoin is different with bitcoin cash, every miner can choose to mine one or both of it.
But the main thing that play most important role is "usability", we know bitcoin dominance in the market and how it's already used in various sectors.
As we know bitcoin cash run in different blockchain, so it just an altcoin. We will see how the market react to this new coin. If bitcoin cash could rise again compare to current price, then I will sell it.

if the hashing power goes to bcc. bcc with be BTC and btc will go to 0.
I dont support bcc, but I will hold them and see what happens

You should know that btc hash power will not go to 0, mining power has very little influence here, the most important factor is which currency people/businesses/exchanges accept: if for example one currency is accepted by 95% of the pre-split economy, and the other is accepted by only 5% of the pre-split economy, then the 95% one is probably truly Bitcoin, and the other one can be considered a Bitcoin-derived altcoin. credited to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012799.0
I doubt people will choose bitcoin cash over bitcoin, that's why Op stated : Do we will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software? As we know only few exchanges support bitcoin cash but it seems like more exchanges will listed it and that is a common thing for famous altcoin. However, I would like to see bitcoin cash rise again over $500 and I will sell it immediately.

[johanesrobin]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

[Klausi]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

Really? How did you get the info and which source? Many people keep on criticizing about bitcoin cash and they think that is isn't real however, I'm fine with minimal changes because I didn't invest my btc. What's more important for me now is I always update info because it's good to know how and why is everything going on in btc.

[classicsucks]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

Trex says 24hr high price is 0.14789000 and the coin has only existed for 6 hours... but it's fluctuating quite a bit right now...

[BrannigansLaw]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

Really? How did you get the info and which source? Many people keep on criticizing about bitcoin cash and they think that is isn't real however, I'm fine with minimal changes because I didn't invest my btc. What's more important for me now is I always update info because it's good to know how and why is everything going on in btc.

The number of exchanges trading bitcoin cash has increased for now and surprisingly bittrex and kraken which are the exchanges i am trading started bitcoin cash trading and the volume they are getting is pretty huge ,$10,525,500 for bittrex and $6,980,600 for kraken,i did not expect these sort of volumes today,it is surprising.

[HaXX0R1337]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

Trex says 24hr high price is 0.14789000 and the coin has only existed for 6 hours... but it's fluctuating quite a bit right now...

The price is really interesting and good to see that the coins i get for free is trading above $200 and whether i am looking forward for a rally in price is too early too say because the chain is created today and who knows what the future holds for them,if everything goes smooth then we will have a good alternative for bitcoin.

[xbiv2]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Lets wait 1 week

[hovrah]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

Trex says 24hr high price is 0.14789000 and the coin has only existed for 6 hours... but it's fluctuating quite a bit right now...

The price is really interesting and good to see that the coins i get for free is trading above $200 and whether i am looking forward for a rally in price is too early too say because the chain is created today and who knows what the future holds for them,if everything goes smooth then we will have a good alternative for bitcoin.

Do you really think that the alternative to bitcoin will prevail? I do not really want to trust this moment, because so many users believe it is Bitcoin. Although it seems to me that the market itself will react to the fall.

[Variogam]

Bitcoin Cash is interesting alternative for Bitcoin, especially when Bitcoin fees increases again to unacceptable levels then Bitcoin Cash could have big advantage over Bitcoin.

[shintosai]

Bitcoin Cash is interesting alternative for Bitcoin, especially when Bitcoin fees increases again to unacceptable levels then Bitcoin Cash could have big advantage over Bitcoin.

good point mate if price increase happen again with our transactions we can use this new project as an alternatives but who knows
who's service will allow this coin being use or served likewise with bitcoin.

[boyptc]

yes

XT, Unlimited, classic, BTC1, Bitcoin Cash... boy do you people have a short memory.

They have named it XBT on some of the other exchanges.

Why can't they just pick on name and stick to it.

I count 4 different abbreviations for the same damn coin now.

These people are intelligent, they are putting the name of bitcoin on their alt coins so that it will look legit. Whatever they call it, they are all jokes and just for trading reasons. Bcc now, bitcoin abc, and whatever again they call it those names are really attracting people. But after this hype, all these coins will all die.

[worthy1]

well its bounced up to $395 per coin at the moment...

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#charts

[stupid_seb]

BCH is a smart speculative move. (period)

21M coins,  even @ $100 per coin creates $2Billion value out of thin air!
Bonus points: It's almost as if the value will go exclusively to bitmain bc they have a vast majority of the hash power.


Bottom line: Bitmain will probably make (more than) a couple Million Dollars with this "idea".

Brilliant.
ICOs scammers are tiny fish compared to Bitmains' masterplan!!


I wish I had the idea...

[magmar]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

Now is August 2 and we saw that the bcc or the bitcoin cash is not a joke, hence, it is an interesting coin because the value of it rises but not that much compared to the original. I can see a potential to this coin, I'd aldo like to invest in these but not that much, maybe it is because of their first bloom that's why they rise their value already, for me bitcoin is still the best.

[Rahar02]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

Now is August 2 and we saw that the bcc or the bitcoin cash is not a joke, hence, it is an interesting coin because the value of it rises but not that much compared to the original. I can see a potential to this coin, I'd aldo like to invest in these but not that much, maybe it is because of their first bloom that's why they rise their value already, for me bitcoin is still the best.

It's normal for every coin that just launched to the market, I've seen yesterday bcash price was $283 and it rise up to $382 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
Bcash is just an altcoin and just like other coins, it will be used as trading object. It is a good time to watch over the price and wait for the best time to cash out, maybe bcash could recover to over $500 again.

[xbiv2]

At this moment have zero transactions on BitcoinCash blockchain.
https://www.btcforkmonitor.info/
Still waiting a block.

[Sithara007]

It's normal for every coin that just launched to the market, I've seen yesterday bcash price was $283 and it rise up to $382 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
Bcash is just an altcoin and just like other coins, it will be used as trading object. It is a good time to watch over the price and wait for the best time to cash out, maybe bcash could recover to over $500 again.

During the first week, a lot of people will be dumping their BCH tokens, and therefore the prices may decline. But after that I expect the prices to stabilize at BTC0.20 to BTC0.25 levels. It is difficult to say whether BCH will have an effect on the BTC exchange rates. But the initial indications are that the BTC exchange rates are not affected.

[Wesimon]

Though bitcoin cash was a copycat of bitcoin, still bitcoin cash has higher value than any other altcoins so you cannot take it as a joke. If you have bcc, there will be a bigger opportunity for you to profit from it. Thanks God cause it does not affect bitcoin price even if many are dumping it. Its still early to conclude about bcc so let's wait and see.

[Casdinyard]

Seems pretty legit as of now, the name though still seems like a joke lol

Well my friends are excited about this free coin like its an instant cash for them. But it just end there.
After they converted it to fiat then they will not buy to have again another bcc.
Well I just dont really like this idea photocopying bitcoin. They say it will be the next btc in the future as the supply becomes very limited. Damn, bitcoin is bitcoin and no other be.

[xbiv2]

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks
BitcoinCash OK

[pdpanzer]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

Now is August 2 and we saw that the bcc or the bitcoin cash is not a joke, hence, it is an interesting coin because the value of it rises but not that much compared to the original. I can see a potential to this coin, I'd aldo like to invest in these but not that much, maybe it is because of their first bloom that's why they rise their value already, for me bitcoin is still the best.

The value rises, because the ONLY supply of BCC are some exchanges that did clients the favor of managing their BCC wallet (including the splitting). So the total amount of coins that can be SOLD is limited by those that remained -against all advise- BTC on exchange. The rest will have to wait until wallet opens. Noteworthy, we only seen less than 50,000 coins traded. But there are over 20,000,000 coins that people may want to trade for something else as soon as the first exchange opens transfers.

WARNING: current price of BCC is the price of the coins that happened to be converted from clients on the exchange that owned BTC at fork time, settling with those that for some reason don't want to wait for the cheap supply from those on Wallet. This is not advise - it's just observing that the vast majority of BCC cannot be moved to an exchange to trade for something else until the Exchanges open deposits for BCC.

[anonjdoe]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

On the contrary, considering it launched at the full difficulty of the legacy Bitcoin chain, managed to have essentially volunteer miners find even its first post-fork block (some call it the Exodus Block), has since demonstrated that it's new downward difficulty adjusting mechanism works as designed, and is now clearly functional enough to survive to the next standard difficulty adjustment despite its miners still operating at a cost deficit seems to me to be a quite good showing so far. Morever, in the midst of being bombed by the Nothing-But-Core and dump free coins crowds, it's still holding up as the fourth largest cryptocurrency by market cap, despite being less than four days old. I'd say that's hardly a joke.

Furthermore, it's clearly proved the Blockstream and Core contentions that a hard fork would be disastrous, or must take forever to plan were always bald-faced lies.

Going forward, it's going to function as a hedge against possible problems with SegWit and it's unnecessary, Rube Goldgerg-ian complexity, as well as insurance that on-chain scaling will continue regardless of whether the 2x part of SegWit2x ever activates.

Lastly, even in its nascent state, it's demonstrating what actual developer decentralization can look like in the Bitcoin space, with four different development teams, each fielding its own compatible client.

[Idrisu]

I think the same people that are behind bitcoin unlimited are behind bitcoin cash and I think splitting is not the right thing to do as bitcoin core has a very strong foundation! It's currently serving as a gold standard to others altcoins and that always create sympathy from altcoins investment when ever fork issue come up. The owners of bitcoin cash should convert their coins to altcoins instead of splitting.

[bcsuisse]

I think the same people that are behind bitcoin unlimited are behind bitcoin cash and I think splitting is not the right thing to do as bitcoin core has a very strong foundation! It's currently serving as a gold standard to others altcoins and that always create sympathy from altcoins investment when ever fork issue come up. The owners of bitcoin cash should convert their coins to altcoins instead of splitting.

I have used bcc now, and while it is slow as hell the user exp. is 100% the same with bitcoin. I would bet that if more miners moved over 80% of the bitcoin users would not care if bcc or btc won in the end.

it has to be cheap, it has to be fast. the rest, well most of the people dont know how a creditcard works, yet they use it.

[classicsucks]

I think the same people that are behind bitcoin unlimited are behind bitcoin cash and I think splitting is not the right thing to do as bitcoin core has a very strong foundation! It's currently serving as a gold standard to others altcoins and that always create sympathy from altcoins investment when ever fork issue come up. The owners of bitcoin cash should convert their coins to altcoins instead of splitting.

This may be true, but don't you think the Core devs were coding for UASF148 and Segwit2x behind the scenes? Who do you think shaolinfry really "was"? From what I've heard he is Peter Todd. Nobody is speaking publicly right now because they don't want to get their heads sawed off by the hate machine. This doesn't mean that code can't be written.

BCC is doing great, and the blocks aren't full. The mempool is clear despite huge volume, and the difficulty is adjusting as it should.

And the devs are actually writing code, rather than trolling on reddit and putting people down!

[allohha]

I think the same people that are behind bitcoin unlimited are behind bitcoin cash and I think splitting is not the right thing to do as bitcoin core has a very strong foundation! It's currently serving as a gold standard to others altcoins and that always create sympathy from altcoins investment when ever fork issue come up. The owners of bitcoin cash should convert their coins to altcoins instead of splitting.

This may be true, but don't you think the Core devs were coding for UASF148 and Segwit2x behind the scenes? Who do you think shaolinfry really "was"? From what I've heard he is Peter Todd. Nobody is speaking publicly right now because they don't want to get their heads sawed off by the hate machine. This doesn't mean that code can't be written.

BCC is doing great, and the blocks aren't full. The mempool is clear despite huge volume, and the difficulty is adjusting as it should.

And the devs are actually writing code, rather than trolling on reddit and putting people down!

But it seems to me that this is a complete fucking thing. We still all claim that Bitcoin should take the leading position among the currency and every person on Earth should use Bitcoin as a means of payment. But there are And such nuances will be repeated all the time, then a simple person will not be able to control the crypto currency and even more so to use it. Because knowledge must be very huge.

[Ehrhc]

It's facing negative PR campaign!

[Zer0Sum]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

Now is August 2 and we saw that the bcc or the bitcoin cash is not a joke, hence, it is an interesting coin because the value of it rises but not that much compared to the original. I can see a potential to this coin, I'd aldo like to invest in these but not that much, maybe it is because of their first bloom that's why they rise their value already, for me bitcoin is still the best.

It's normal for every coin that just launched to the market, I've seen yesterday bcash price was $283 and it rise up to $382 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
Bcash is just an altcoin and just like other coins, it will be used as trading object. It is a good time to watch over the price and wait for the best time to cash out, maybe bcash could recover to over $500 again.

Yes, it's a trader's alt, BUT...

(1)  First official Bitcoin fork

(2)  Moving $1.5 billion on 30,000 tx per day

(3)  More hash power on the way when diff drops and network stable

(4)  Devs can easily make various improvements without all the politics and overhead Core has

So much win, baby. You will get tired of winning !!

[PanneKopp]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

[bcsuisse]

is there any site comparing btc to bcc in terms of hashpower, transactions, wallets , etc.

[tansoft64]

BitcoinCash for me is not a joke because they create that alt-coin by there hard work and it is huge investment too for the development! If it is a joke so they are wasting there money! BitcoinCash has a huge potential now in the market.

[Traxo]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Is the joke on the security of our BTC wallets?

[Red-Apple]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

as if we never saw or read or even heard of the bitcoin paper by Satoshi Nakamoto.
as if in the paper Satoshi says make the blocks so big that it makes everything centralized.
as if in the paper Satoshi says fuck consensus, fork if you want to fork even if you are alone.
as if in the paper Satoshi says abuse my identity with lies and steal it to attract idiots to your fork to no longer be "alone" but have some gullible sheep with you.
/s

[tlkchain]

You may be right, but I won't be turning down free altcoins.

You tell the idea of the vast majority of people，lol
bitcoincash just a speculation,as I see!

[escrow.ms]

Yes bitcoin cash is a joke, You don't need to use it, you can donate this waste to me.
1Dq7tRUN3okSK3aNRfergHzhB9hs4YVYuN

Thank you.

[Mahanton]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

Indeed if we do read the whitepaper of Bitcoin we would really say that this is really a joke since all on Bcc is opposing on what it should be on Bitcoin but this joke did probably give some free money on Btc users and we cant really deny on that thing because we did know that bcash price hypes up and tend to sell on those price points and yet somehow gives us benefits and theres no other than that because people most of their bcc have been dumped already.

[escrow.ms]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

Indeed if we do read the whitepaper of Bitcoin we would really say that this is really a joke since all on Bcc is opposing on what it should be on Bitcoin but this joke did probably give some free money on Btc users and we cant really deny on that thing because we did know that bcash price hypes up and tend to sell on those price points and yet somehow gives us benefits and theres no other than that because people most of their bcc have been dumped already.

This.

Bitcoincash gave you something, while it took nothing from you. Why are you even whining? If you still don't trust bitcoincash, donate your coins for the good cause.
Even right now 1 BCC can feed at least 5 people a three times meal.

[Traxo]

Is someone's (not mine) speculation of $1000 and perhaps roughly 0.25 - 0.33 BTC going to be a joke and who is the joke on?

[cellard]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

Indeed if we do read the whitepaper of Bitcoin we would really say that this is really a joke since all on Bcc is opposing on what it should be on Bitcoin but this joke did probably give some free money on Btc users and we cant really deny on that thing because we did know that bcash price hypes up and tend to sell on those price points and yet somehow gives us benefits and theres no other than that because people most of their bcc have been dumped already.

This.

Bitcoincash gave you something, while it took nothing from you. Why are you even whining? If you still don't trust bitcoincash, donate your coins for the good cause.
Even right now 1 BCC can feed at least 5 people a three times meal.

It took nothing from us? Ehhh, how about all the scaling drama and the price crash back to $1800?

If you think Bitcoin Cash had no negative impact on holders then you are delusional. If Roger Ver, Bitmain, and the rest of idiots, instead of causing havok with their false beliefs, supported Core's roadmap, we would be sitting at $10000 already. We are years behind development because all the drama-inducing queens in the ecosystem.

[escrow.ms]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

Indeed if we do read the whitepaper of Bitcoin we would really say that this is really a joke since all on Bcc is opposing on what it should be on Bitcoin but this joke did probably give some free money on Btc users and we cant really deny on that thing because we did know that bcash price hypes up and tend to sell on those price points and yet somehow gives us benefits and theres no other than that because people most of their bcc have been dumped already.

This.

Bitcoincash gave you something, while it took nothing from you. Why are you even whining? If you still don't trust bitcoincash, donate your coins for the good cause.
Even right now 1 BCC can feed at least 5 people a three times meal.

It took nothing from us? Ehhh, how about all the scaling drama and the price crash back to $1800?

If you think Bitcoin Cash had no negative impact on holders then you are delusional. If Roger Ver, Bitmain, and the rest of idiots, instead of causing havok with their false beliefs, supported Core's roadmap, we would be sitting at $10000 already. We are years behind development because all the drama-inducing queens in the ecosystem.

But it didn't crashed.

We would be sitting at 10000$ already..
If Ethereum wasn't there
If so many exchanges weren't hacked and their bitcoins weren't dumped
and so on....

[HastyQuynh]

I think It's not joke. We it will see the changes of it 

[cellard]

Is BitcoinCash a joke?

Yes, if you believe the withepaper of BitCoin from Satoshi Nakamoto is a joke.

Indeed if we do read the whitepaper of Bitcoin we would really say that this is really a joke since all on Bcc is opposing on what it should be on Bitcoin but this joke did probably give some free money on Btc users and we cant really deny on that thing because we did know that bcash price hypes up and tend to sell on those price points and yet somehow gives us benefits and theres no other than that because people most of their bcc have been dumped already.

This.

Bitcoincash gave you something, while it took nothing from you. Why are you even whining? If you still don't trust bitcoincash, donate your coins for the good cause.
Even right now 1 BCC can feed at least 5 people a three times meal.

It took nothing from us? Ehhh, how about all the scaling drama and the price crash back to $1800?

If you think Bitcoin Cash had no negative impact on holders then you are delusional. If Roger Ver, Bitmain, and the rest of idiots, instead of causing havok with their false beliefs, supported Core's roadmap, we would be sitting at $10000 already. We are years behind development because all the drama-inducing queens in the ecosystem.

But it didn't crashed.

We would be sitting at 10000$ already..
If Ethereum wasn't there
If so many exchanges weren't hacked and their bitcoins weren't dumped
and so on....

Mmm, how it didn't crash?

Let's look at the past notable crashes over the past months:



We recently say $1800 again because of the Bitcoin Cash drama, if we didn't have that, there wouldn't have been that selling presure. Now that the market is making it clear that Bitcoin Cash is not a treat at all and segwit is going to get activated with no drama, the price will keep growing, UNTIL hardforkers come back.

Also notice that "Hearn Dump", was right after the Bitcoin XT crash. Also notice the Bitcoin Unlimited drama happened around PBOC crash too.

[speaktome]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

Now is August 2 and we saw that the bcc or the bitcoin cash is not a joke, hence, it is an interesting coin because the value of it rises but not that much compared to the original. I can see a potential to this coin, I'd aldo like to invest in these but not that much, maybe it is because of their first bloom that's why they rise their value already, for me bitcoin is still the best.

It's normal for every coin that just launched to the market, I've seen yesterday bcash price was $283 and it rise up to $382 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
Bcash is just an altcoin and just like other coins, it will be used as trading object. It is a good time to watch over the price and wait for the best time to cash out, maybe bcash could recover to over $500 again.

Yes, it's a trader's alt, BUT...

(1)  First official Bitcoin fork

(2)  Moving $1.5 billion on 30,000 tx per day

(3)  More hash power on the way when diff drops and network stable

(4)  Devs can easily make various improvements without all the politics and overhead Core has

So much win, baby. You will get tired of winning !!

That must be something to say that it does not really constitute a joke,but besides  I do not think it is a threat to BTC,rather both must learn from each other and i say this for several reasons,one of them is,for example,that although the BCH  network has the ability to work with 8MB block size,it will take time to fill all that maximum capacity which is paradoxical,and on the other hand the users of the original chain aka BTC can  see the effects of increasing block size and that the users are aware of the positive or negative effects that may exist by doing this,and in a given moment to justify because the increments must be gradual and not sudden based on the use that is given in certain periods of time,this could give an idea to the average use to explain why the limit was set at the launch of BTC, or  help understand as the original proposal of segwit should have good effects instead of a big sudden increase.

[classicsucks]

Mmm, how it didn't crash?

Let's look at the past notable crashes over the past months:

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We recently say $1800 again because of the Bitcoin Cash drama, if we didn't have that, there wouldn't have been that selling presure. Now that the market is making it clear that Bitcoin Cash is not a treat at all and segwit is going to get activated with no drama, the price will keep growing, UNTIL hardforkers come back.

Also notice that "Hearn Dump", was right after the Bitcoin XT crash. Also notice the Bitcoin Unlimited drama happened around PBOC crash too.

Blaming "Bitcoin Cash drama" on price drop is downright dishonest - the BTC price dropped to $1800 when Segwit2x/UASF/BIP148 drama was at a height. Bitcoin Cash was barely on the radar at that time.

Since Bitcoin Cash's launch, BTC price has only gone up!  Which is surprising, BTW...

And WTF is "hardforkers coming back"? That just makes no sense.

[bcsuisse]

price will go up again. and than down a couple of times. lets see how high it goes this time

[GRR]

Only idiots buy BCH if they think it will eventually succeed over BTC. It only makes sense if you wanna do a risky gamble.

[Cult]

People pushing this bitcoin fork have great resources, they can afford losing millions of dollars in mining revenue, these are not common pump and dump scammers, they have great resources and they want to be in charge of bitcoin.

They will not go down easily.

[Ronaldcoin2017]

People pushing this bitcoin fork have great resources, they can afford losing millions of dollars in mining revenue, these are not common pump and dump scammers, they have great resources and they want to be in charge of bitcoin.

They will not go down easily.

yes i believe on that last line. Of your qoute for me it is really not a joke! How can we say that .it is a joke if its speak a big amount of money.if we are goin to see all factors in it we cannot really say that it is a joke.

[decoder88]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

As many people said,  bitcoin cash is not a joke for me.  It is a real thing that can help many people as i can see of what it can do to one's live. And i witness what the great things can do when you have a bitcoin cash.

[shimbark123]

Of course NO. Bitcoin cash was given for free when bitcoin did split right? So it is not a joke, I think you just pertained it as a joke because it is an alternative coin. But what do you mean on Bitcoin Ultimate sir? Was that part of those dramas that happened?

[robelneo]

Did you get a free Bitcoincash or not, this is a free money everyone made $500 to hundred thousand of dollars so why treat it as a joke, and it's still to early to tell the potential of Bitcoincash we'll see how it goes after three more months.

[xapwxrm5742]

Did you get a free Bitcoincash or not, this is a free money everyone made $500 to hundred thousand of dollars so why treat it as a joke, and it's still to early to tell the potential of Bitcoincash we'll see how it goes after three more months.

bitcoincash still have an space of bubble,it's free for a lots of guy
so what do you think if it will got the investors' support forever like BTC?
some guys would lose a lot of their money in this  speculation game

[Gaff]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

As many people said,  bitcoin cash is not a joke for me.  It is a real thing that can help many people as i can see of what it can do to one's live. And i witness what the great things can do when you have a bitcoin cash.

I don't think so. Bitcoin is bitcoin alone and no need for splitting. This is something untrusted to some people because they keep on adjusting with this kind of method. This isn't necessary to split because people are being used to bitcoin itself. The more splittings may come the more difficult to understand. So it's now becoming stressful eventhough others think this isn't a joke yeah it's not but just for the sake of investments don't make it complicated.

[classicsucks]

Congratulations, BCC is not nonsense. If you save BTC in Bittrex you get free BCC. Good price 0.17 BTC

Trex says 24hr high price is 0.14789000 and the coin has only existed for 6 hours... but it's fluctuating quite a bit right now...

The price is really interesting and good to see that the coins i get for free is trading above $200 and whether i am looking forward for a rally in price is too early too say because the chain is created today and who knows what the future holds for them,if everything goes smooth then we will have a good alternative for bitcoin.

Do you really think that the alternative to bitcoin will prevail? I do not really want to trust this moment, because so many users believe it is Bitcoin. Although it seems to me that the market itself will react to the fall.

Plenty of alternatives to Bitcoin ARE prevailing right now! Just because their market caps are smaller doesn't mean much, especially when these other coins have a much more sane approach to scaling...

[batang_bitcoin]

I've been saying before that this alt coin is a joke, yes bitcoin cash a joke. But upon seeing it written and listed on bittrex, the highest price that I've seen with it is 0.6 BTC. You know what people? I feel bad that I have to eat my words back and this is not a joke but this coin has something to generate profit for everyone.

[cuo]

It sure sounds like a joke "Bitcoin Cash" 

After this whole debacle, they might as well re-name it to "Bitcoin Crash" because that's what BCC price is going to do. Then it will recover to be just like all the other "alt-coins" out there.

Bitcoin is King!

Yes, I honestly agree with your opinion, even this one will never be able to shake the bitcoin, they will just be the same as regular altcoin.

[Oo ako to]

I've been saying before that this alt coin is a joke, yes bitcoin cash a joke. But upon seeing it written and listed on bittrex, the highest price that I've seen with it is 0.6 BTC. You know what people? I feel bad that I have to eat my words back and this is not a joke but this coin has something to generate profit for everyone.

It's still a joke. People just hyping it and they are lucky you bought it. Maybe these weeks it is the latest attraction but no one can deny it's just a shitclone of bitcoin. Good luck for being a bagholder of bitcoincash where most people got it for free.

[HashFace]

I don't understand all the hate for Bitcoin Cash.  Not trying to take sides here, but I just see it as free money.  I think it's too bad that the two communities could not agree on a scaling solution, but it's free coins and it didn't knock the price of bitcoin down at all.  Since the split, BitCoin went through the roof, and Bitcoin Cash seems to have found a near term bottom, and has been trending up for 3 days or so.  It's holding at #4 in market cap and #3 in price per coin (of the top 100 coins) ... it's future will depend on if the development team sticks with it, or if this was just a one time pump and dump scam.

[syskall]

I don't understand all the hate for Bitcoin Cash.  Not trying to take sides here, but I just see it as free money.  I think it's too bad that the two communities could not agree on a scaling solution, but it's free coins and it didn't knock the price of bitcoin down at all.  Since the split, BitCoin went through the roof, and Bitcoin Cash seems to have found a near term bottom, and has been trending up for 3 days or so.  It's holding at #4 in market cap and #3 in price per coin (of the top 100 coins) ... it's future will depend on if the development team sticks with it, or if this was just a one time pump and dump scam.

Pretty easy to understand once you understand that all money is a bubble (and I don't mean that in a bad way).

[classicsucks]

yes

XT, Unlimited, classic, BTC1, Bitcoin Cash... boy do you people have a short memory.

Weird how the supporters of Bitcoin cash use tweets from Gavin as huge rallying cries when he has been behind some of the earliest forks.

Uhhm, learn your history, Boi.

Are you aware that Gavin was THE public face of Bitcoin for several years, and was given the master alert key and control of the project when Satoshi disappeared? He was kicked out of dev team by Maxwell, who is looking more and more like he'll be on the "wrong side of history"...

[RealBitcoin]

It doesnt look like a joke anymore, looks like it has stabilized itself in the top 5 position.

But I wonder will it be there 1 year from now? Does BCH have a future?

[krizniq]

BCH is superb because free money you've got you can invest to something else without touching your BTC stash.

[Zadicar]

It doesnt look like a joke anymore, looks like it has stabilized itself in the top 5 position.

But I wonder will it be there 1 year from now? Does BCH have a future?

Its not really joke anymore and people keep saying that this coin is good as dead since its being dumped already by most people but now its still kicking and the price is stabilizing as of now and as you said what would be the price of this coin on 1 year time. We would surely see the price would escalate high but not too much when comes to a point on surpassing bitcoin because its really an impossible thing.

[FrueGreads]

It doesnt look like a joke anymore, looks like it has stabilized itself in the top 5 position.

But I wonder will it be there 1 year from now? Does BCH have a future?

Its not really joke anymore and people keep saying that this coin is good as dead since its being dumped already by most people but now its still kicking and the price is stabilizing as of now and as you said what would be the price of this coin on 1 year time. We would surely see the price would escalate high but not too much when comes to a point on surpassing bitcoin because its really an impossible thing.

I don't think it will surpass bitcoin, and it probably found it's value in the market since it stabilized after the initial dump. I think it will be used for trading, as other altcoins. Maybe it will start increasing price overtime, as most stable altcoins do (like ether for example), so yes, they are probably worth holding as well.

[carlosmg]

Yes. Not only do they not have a competent team of developers, but they also lack originality to create a name.

[Oceat]

It doesnt look like a joke anymore, looks like it has stabilized itself in the top 5 position.

But I wonder will it be there 1 year from now? Does BCH have a future?

Its not really joke anymore and people keep saying that this coin is good as dead since its being dumped already by most people but now its still kicking and the price is stabilizing as of now and as you said what would be the price of this coin on 1 year time. We would surely see the price would escalate high but not too much when comes to a point on surpassing bitcoin because its really an impossible thing.

I don't think it will surpass bitcoin, and it probably found it's value in the market since it stabilized after the initial dump. I think it will be used for trading, as other altcoins. Maybe it will start increasing price overtime, as most stable altcoins do (like ether for example), so yes, they are probably worth holding as well.

It can't surpass bitcoin because bitcoin is the original cryptocurrency in the crypto world. It takes more updates before BCH could possibly catch up BTC but bitcoin at that time is too far. I think it will going to dump just like the other alt coins who tried to be at the top of the marketcap but fail because the lack of support.

[omonuyak]

I don't think bitcoin Cash is a joke because it has proven to have strong follower  base on it acceptability among cryptocurrency trader.  As at today I was expecting it's to have dropped to around $20 but the traders keep on pushing the price upward. I am adopting wait and see approach to bch.

[Haladay]

I don't understand all the hate for Bitcoin Cash.  Not trying to take sides here, but I just see it as free money.  I think it's too bad that the two communities could not agree on a scaling solution, but it's free coins and it didn't knock the price of bitcoin down at all.  Since the split, BitCoin went through the roof, and Bitcoin Cash seems to have found a near term bottom, and has been trending up for 3 days or so.  It's holding at #4 in market cap and #3 in price per coin (of the top 100 coins) ... it's future will depend on if the development team sticks with it, or if this was just a one time pump and dump scam.

Pretty easy to understand once you understand that all money is a bubble (and I don't mean that in a bad way).

There is no hate for bitcoin cash on purpose. The coin itself is not providing or offering any innovation. It was generated by some groups in order to take bitcoin under control. They thought by creating bcc, they can manipulate the market, but they were wrong.

Participants of blockchain simply rejected this bad idea.

[Cashew]

Yes, BitcoinCash is a joke. I must admit I believed it for a couple of days. Some said that endless money of Bitmain would buy up tons of BCC, making it worth more than the true Bitcoin, and hence making it the true Bitcoin. But nothing happened, not even the legion of Antminer that sold predicted to fall on BCH to make its chain lightning fast. What a fail !

[loreRex]

Yes, BitcoinCash is a joke. I must admit I believed it for a couple of days. Some said that endless money of Bitmain would buy up tons of BCC, making it worth more than the true Bitcoin, and hence making it the true Bitcoin. But nothing happened, not even the legion of Antminer that sold predicted to fall on BCH to make its chain lightning fast. What a fail !

well, many predicted zero value after a couple of hours, and instead it's still there. We will see, in the mean time I've dumped all my BCH.

[Cashew]

Yes, BitcoinCash is a joke. I must admit I believed it for a couple of days. Some said that endless money of Bitmain would buy up tons of BCC, making it worth more than the true Bitcoin, and hence making it the true Bitcoin. But nothing happened, not even the legion of Antminer that sold predicted to fall on BCH to make its chain lightning fast. What a fail !

well, many predicted zero value after a couple of hours, and instead it's still there. We will see, in the mean time I've dumped all my BCH.

They probably exagerated a bit too much, but I do not see it going somewhere else than in the trash bin from current situation because the network is currently very crappy...

[Kaller]

Yes, BitcoinCash is a joke. I must admit I believed it for a couple of days. Some said that endless money of Bitmain would buy up tons of BCC, making it worth more than the true Bitcoin, and hence making it the true Bitcoin. But nothing happened, not even the legion of Antminer that sold predicted to fall on BCH to make its chain lightning fast. What a fail !

well, many predicted zero value after a couple of hours, and instead it's still there. We will see, in the mean time I've dumped all my BCH.

They probably exagerated a bit too much, but I do not see it going somewhere else than in the trash bin from current situation because the network is currently very crappy...

The thing is the price keeps going up and down but it is not dying.
This says something...
However, in the long term I can certainly see Bitcoin Cash dropping and dropping until eventually only a small fraction of what it is today.
Realistically it will continue losing support and fail like most altcoins.

[mamontkiev]

No, just a scam

[coin_coin]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

Time will tell.Personally, I don't like BCC, a notorious Chinese farm owner related to it closely.

[Bay_Harbour_Butcher]

Thanks for the analysis, good analysis, I agree with you, maybe it's just a joke and maybe also a scam

[classicsucks]

yes

XT, Unlimited, classic, BTC1, Bitcoin Cash... boy do you people have a short memory.

Weird how the supporters of Bitcoin cash use tweets from Gavin as huge rallying cries when he has been behind some of the earliest forks.

Uhhm, learn your history, Boi.

Are you aware that Gavin was THE public face of Bitcoin for several years, and was given the master alert key and control of the project when Satoshi disappeared? He was kicked out of dev team by Maxwell, who is looking more and more like he'll be on the "wrong side of history"...

Looks like you forgot the whole reason Satoshi split (Gavin meeting with the CIA), the 30mb block fork, the hailing or Craig McFuckhead as Satoshi for who knows what reason. Gavin isn't a person to stand behind, he obviously is either corrupted or stupid saying Craig is Satoshi alone.

Not saying Gavin is perfect. He definitely lost points with me for the Craig Wright-fail and for being the CIA's monkey.

But f*cking Maxwell is literally the WORST - I don't understand how a highly intelligent person can completely RUIN a new technology, but that's what he seems to be doing. Rumor has it that's what he did at Wikipedia, and some other software company too...  I can only assume that this DCG/Blockstream/CrippleCoin unholy trifecta "conspiracy theory" has merit.

[reputation]

the market must be washed since there are so many free coins, when the banker get enough chip, the price will pump

[SGToken]

It's not a joke. It's damn serious if millions of dollars behind it.

[Oilacris]

Thanks for the analysis, good analysis, I agree with you, maybe it's just a joke and maybe also a scam

If you do try to see Bitcoincash you can say that its not a scam and its still kicking as of now in the market. Price might be affected by hype but somehow it stabilize its price range as of now which is good to engage with it and im thankful too on those free money that it gives on me back in august 1 and that particular week. Its not a joke but one thing here that it cant surpass bitcoin no matter what.

[cryptocortex]

Hashrate distribution certainly is a joke. It is debatable if the coin is still alive because since the beginning more than 51% unknown miner.
https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

Indeed, but lack of professionalism is a bigger problem. The logo, the brand, the guys are creating more confusion than anything else in the market.

[bcsuisse]

lets see if the segwit2 activation does not produce another fork...

and than bitcoincash might be the big winner in november.

[krizniq]

lets see if the segwit2 activation does not produce another fork...

and than bitcoincash might be the big winner in november.

People are going to stick with their technology and not download another client, it's as easy as people don't like change, especially with their investments.

it depends, it's easy to change btc to fiat and wait which will cause more bloodbath in case sgw2x will start one... and move fiat thru exchange to bch is as well easy.

I'm pretty sure a lot of investors to crypto is familiar with other technologies as well.

[wildlandlord]

It's not a joke. It's damn serious if millions of dollars behind it.

I agree with dude

[-security-]

It's not a joke. It's damn serious if millions of dollars behind it.

Satoshi could instantly deceit which is his chain.

[sieemma]

This is never a joke and everything is clear that bcc is a diff coin existing on its own.
And the fact that people had this coin for free can led to it's dump or existence for long. There are two people we can get during this event: those who will be willing to dump for money and those who will hold for long term waiting for price to rise. All these factors will let bcc become a stable coin over time as dumping and holding balance..

[Baehr123456789]

You may be right, but I will not be turning down free altcoins

[Blazed]

I think bcash is great for everyone. It will never over take Bitcoin, but it does allow the unhappy minority to go off on their own and stop bugging everyone else. I wish them well and am still holding my free coins waiting for a decent pump via roger.

[Herdirfauzi]

I hope bcc will rise in price like his bitcoin

[hubballi]

I hope bcc will rise in price like his bitcoin

Ya it will as it is just the duplicate of Bitcoin but it is an altcoin so it will be used as pump and dump coins for trading and big whales will use it to earn revenue from it. But bitcoin will be the main coin always.

[Drnice]

Bitcoin cash is not a joke, but the question is will they survive the environment. Bitcoin cash is already coming up to gain their own ground, so, looking at bitcoin cash as an altcoin, it might beat down all other altcoin and fight with bitcoin itself.

[bcsuisse]

i dont think that battle has 100% been lost. bcc might be the only scaling btc if segwit 2x fails

[Jerald]

No. Because the Bitcoin Cash has a lot to do with it and it's proved to everyone. The only effort is needed to achieve what you desire

[Babayega31]

How come Bitcoin cash is a joke? It's still an alt and have huge value on marketcap, and the only thing made confusion there is that alt has been split from the king of crypto's but Bitcoin cash have huge potential to be one of the choices of traders since the movement of this alt is good enough to generate some profits for those short term traders.

[slaman29]

i dont think that battle has 100% been lost. bcc might be the only scaling btc if segwit 2x fails

The battle of course hasn't been lost. It cannot really be won either, because it is extremely hard to launch an alt with so much backing and reputation and have it fail. Only if the developers abandon it can it fail. What I am interested in now is, what other developments can Bitcoin Cash bring? If they somehow find a way to introduce new tech in place of simple block increase, they may have a lifesaver.

[matchi2011]

I don't think so, in the sense that i consider it a legitimate altcoin that may one day really be significant. A lot of people are considering it a second rate copy of btc but it may have its own time as well. It already git a lot of attention when the split caused all the drama at the start of this month so i think bcc will have a part to play in the crypto world.

[NJB18]

I don't think so, in the sense that i consider it a legitimate altcoin that may one day really be significant. A lot of people are considering it a second rate copy of btc but it may have its own time as well. It already git a lot of attention when the split caused all the drama at the start of this month so i think bcc will have a part to play in the crypto world.

I also think Bitcoin Cash will have some buyers and investors in the time to come. There will always be supporters to BCH. If there are supporters to shitcoins then there is also for Bitcoin Cash which is somehow a shitcoin but at least a copy of BTC. What I don't like is when people try to promote BCH to be a replacement of BTC. That is not happening.

[AK47-]

Offcourse, Bitcoin cash is mere a joke. A coin backed by nothing plus a free allocation of the coins will ultimately leads to shit. They were claiming BCC is better than BTC in terms of transaction speed. They weren't able to fulfill even that. Most of the holders have already dumped it and have forgotten about it. Offcourse, it will get some investors because it originated from Bitcoin and got a huge initial popularity because of that.

[SL125]

yep, a joke worth almost $400 dollars a coin, higher that ETH!   

[anylic]

People see it as a joke because they initially hoped for it too much, when truth opened, they felt disappointed.
BTC is always the right choice than ever, infer and make decisions in your opinion and the opinions from others are for reference only.

[bcsuisse]

yep, a joke worth almost $400 dollars a coin, higher that ETH!   

I agree on that, BCC has not lost yet, lets see if segwit 2x works out

[chutchmcgillicutty]

It may be a joke, But since it was free and is a hedge against some shit happening to BTC, still holding...

[taxmanmt5]

Bitcoin cash is a compromise of sorts. It is a stand-alone coin and completely separate from Bitcoin. It was put out there as an attempt to calm the arguments centered around August 1st. Beyond that point, everything else is conjecture and opinion. Its price was high at start but as people realize it is just an Altcoin, the price will be decreasing fast of Bcc.

[hubballi]

Bitcoin cash is a compromise of sorts. It is a stand-alone coin and completely separate from Bitcoin. It was put out there as an attempt to calm the arguments centered around August 1st. Beyond that point, everything else is conjecture and opinion. Its price was high at start but as people realize it is just an Altcoin, the price will be decreasing fast of Bcc.

What you are telling is true , that Bitcoin cash is nothing but a altcoin duplicate of Bitcoin but its process are different, and the whales are playing this coin as this coins is distributed freely to who ever holded btc on August 1st when the fork happened. So who ever was holding high btc they got high bcc, so they are now playing with this coin as they got free coins to play

[coinfinder000]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

It seems like BCC is living a nice trading lately.I still hold BTC and ETH only , may be someday BCC will be also in my holding list.

[Paycoinzzz]

People see it as a joke because they initially hoped for it too much, when truth opened, they felt disappointed.
BTC is always the right choice than ever, infer and make decisions in your opinion and the opinions from others are for reference only.

Ok, I will remember your said in today until the price of Bitcoin Cash can reach to ratio 1:1 with original Bitcoin in future
The cryptocurrency market always make us feeling surprise, so every situation is possible happening.

[johnwest]

It sure sounds like a joke "Bitcoin Cash"

If you see how many people supporting it and pumping it on every exchange then you will get to know that it is not a joke. If you havent claimed your BCC then it is the right time to do it. We will have to see what is the future for this coin.

[MiriamWeston]

condolatory. But it is the truth $ 555

[SamuelAnh]

What is happening to Bitcoin Cash so

[bamboylee]

It sure sounds like a joke "Bitcoin Cash"

If you see how many people supporting it and pumping it on every exchange then you will get to know that it is not a joke. If you havent claimed your BCC then it is the right time to do it. We will have to see what is the future for this coin.

and even if it is a joke but since it is pumping and profitable, it will be a very profitable joke. Actually, it is good that we have bch because we really can see which is better, large blocks or segwit.

[HastyQuynh]

BCH's turn. pump pump pump..

[HanvanBitcoin]

BCH's turn. pump pump pump..

Where will this pump end?

[PadenoM]

507€ is not a joke anymore

[mindrust]

Joke? No.
Bad for bitcoin? Yes.

Bcash is basically paypal on steroids. It is a company coin which has a CEO and no need to say it is massively centralized, both userwise and minerweise.

Can it go high? If this is your only concern, yes it can go high.
Can it outprice bitcoin? Yes, just like ethereum can, or monero.

Is it scam? Depends on how you look at it. To me, it is.

[Sync485]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

[European Central Bank]

it's a bad joke but a very powerful one. it was described as a cancer on bitcoin in another thread and that it certainly is, but there's no way of going into remission now.

[classicsucks]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

More importantly, mempool/transaction spam attacks were launched on BCC (first), and then BTC (second). BCC ate all the spam in two blocks (one 8MB, one 4MB) and worked fine, while BTC mempool is still completely fuxored two days after the attack. Fees and confirmation times are going parabolic on BTC again (has anyone tried to spend any BTC in the last few days?), but remain low on BCC. BCC gaining market acceptance with a Swiss bank supporting it.

Blockstream launched satellites, LOL.

[Necr]

Now it is more profitable to mine bitcoin cash:
https://cash.coin.dance/blocks#blockDetails

[miKcrypto]

Doesn't look like a joke to me

[xwshamim]

i dont think it is a joke .For the on going issue i think it is working as the side kick o bitcoin . any it will never replace eth or btc . i think afte the issue is fixed it will dump more

[leonair]

Joke? No.
Bad for bitcoin? Yes.

Bcash is basically paypal on steroids. It is a company coin which has a CEO and no need to say it is massively centralized, both userwise and minerweise.

Can it go high? If this is your only concern, yes it can go high.
Can it outprice bitcoin? Yes, just like ethereum can, or monero.

Is it scam? Depends on how you look at it. To me, it is.

Since when did Ethereum and Monero out price Bitcoin?
Bitcoin Cash is a pure copycat of Bitcoin and it has its price right now but until when will it be there, even though it is pumping right now doesn't mean it will pump forever just wait until it falls down or maybe I am wrong and it will goes up and up but no way it can out price Bitcoin.

[Clement Kaliyar]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

[simster]

Referring to the headline, here is the ultimate proof that BTH is a joke:


(that was short after initial listing on Polo, so the calculating routine probably couldn't handle the percentages)

[European Central Bank]

Referring to the headline, here is the ultimate proof that BTH is a joke:


(that was short after initial listing on Polo, so the calculating routine probably couldn't handle the percentages)

nah. there's lot of alts newly listed on there that did the same thing. it's pretty common.

i can't remember which one it was, but one lost 99.8% of its value in the first day.

[simster]

I know.

That was my joke.

by the way: How to include the picture itself in a post and not the url?

[Mtoo]

it's really time every have BCC waiting for that instant the New big boy is almost different when tried to prove  he the best one  in market  last time stopped in 0.4 and still running to achieve  1.5 soon  

[European Central Bank]

I know.

That was my joke.

by the way: How to include the picture itself in a post and not the url?

you have to up your rank. it was disabled for newcomers because this forum was spammed like crazy by a psycho fudster for years on end with annoying photos.

[SwedishGirl]

Yeah, it's a 10 bil dollars joke. Anyway I knew this would come. Give somebody free coins and they are going to start screaming to everybody that this is the best coin ever. Just looks at coins like espers that started as an absolute joke but suddenly reached 10 mil cap.

[tabas]

i dont think it is a joke .For the on going issue i think it is working as the side kick o bitcoin . any it will never replace eth or btc . i think afte the issue is fixed it will dump more

I think it's not but before when the fork is about to happen. I'm going with the crowd and tells that it is nothing and will be dead very soon, so for me it's a joke before. But right now it has a big value and I'm not thinking anymore it as a joke instead I'm not importing my BCH's until now because I'm waiting for this coin to pump.

[simster]

I know.

That was my joke.

by the way: How to include the picture itself in a post and not the url?

you have to up your rank. it was disabled for newcomers because this forum was spammed like crazy by a psycho fudster for years on end with annoying photos.

Thank you!

[eaLiTy]

Yeah, it's a 10 bil dollars joke. Anyway I knew this would come. Give somebody free coins and they are going to start screaming to everybody that this is the best coin ever. Just looks at coins like espers that started as an absolute joke but suddenly reached 10 mil cap.

Since you are talking about the market capital,any coin with unlimited coins can reach a really huge market capital and here you are comparing Espers,which i have not heard before and on checking that ,the supply is crazy which is 10000 million coins  and comparing that with bitcoin cash,you have to come up with a better math .

[mriansa]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

Time will tell.Personally, I don't like BCC, a notorious Chinese farm owner related to it closely.

The digital currency all possibilities can happen, only time will tell,Actually I have enjoyed a tremendous profit from bch

[Sync485]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

[classicsucks]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

Hehe, you have inadvertently triggered a tripwire and stepped on a landmine at the same time...

The Bitcoin Core developers and their corporate sponsors, Blockstream, determined that increasing Bitcoin's blocksize would cause catastrophic centralization and break the network. People here and elsewhere argued fiercely about this issue for FOUR YEARS, in a civil war that consumed many peoples' sanities...

Several Bitcoin Core devs tried to launch their own versions of Bitcoin with a larger blocksize, and all were ostracized from the Core dev group, and had their ability to commit code taken away (Gavin, Hearn, Garzik, etc.).

Suddenly, Bitcoin Cash came out of nowhere, and it "just works" with 8MB blocks. The timing of it was perfect because Bitcoin Core forced the network to soft fork to support Segwit, their (inferior) scaling solution that doesn't increase the blocksize at all.

[aso118]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

If you don't know the answer to this question, you have missed everything that has been debated for the last 2 years. If I have to answer you in one word, it is decentralization. Bigger blocks --> Fewer people running full nodes.

[dewanaga]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

If you don't know the answer to this question, you have missed everything that has been debated for the last 2 years. If I have to answer you in one word, it is decentralization. Bigger blocks --> Fewer people running full nodes.

Means bitcoincash would be faster confirmation than bitcoin huh?
If so bitcoin can be left if not soon update again, can it?

[Sam San]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

Hehe, you have inadvertently triggered a tripwire and stepped on a landmine at the same time...

The Bitcoin Core developers and their corporate sponsors, Blockstream, determined that increasing Bitcoin's blocksize would cause catastrophic centralization and break the network. People here and elsewhere argued fiercely about this issue for FOUR YEARS, in a civil war that consumed many peoples' sanities...

Several Bitcoin Core devs tried to launch their own versions of Bitcoin with a larger blocksize, and all were ostracized from the Core dev group, and had their ability to commit code taken away (Gavin, Hearn, Garzik, etc.).

Suddenly, Bitcoin Cash came out of nowhere, and it "just works" with 8MB blocks. The timing of it was perfect because Bitcoin Core forced the network to soft fork to support Segwit, their (inferior) scaling solution that doesn't increase the blocksize at all.

now imagine if the first experiments of implementation of RSK smart contracts will begin in the BCH, not the mainline bitcoin what then?

[bcsuisse]

I think after the price increase bcc is not going away and nobody is laughing anymore. I wonder if bcc might become a real thread to btc

[Bastime]

Is BitcoinCash is a Joke?
Nope:
BitcoinCash even a split fork of Bitcoin, it is indeed a real thing that can surpass the success of Bitcoin. I'm not an expert of Bitcoin but since a 3 week old BitcoinCash has increasingly topped other alt coins exist it is a huge advantage because the Blockchain core is an upgrade from Bitcoin.
Bitcoin Cash sustained its upward trajectory and surpassed the $700 mark as of August 18 from August 1st his year.

Now, is it still a Joke?

[ViolaDavis]

Yes, it was a quick pump from $ 300 now to $ 800 I regret not buying it at $ 300

[Judd Hawkins]

Of course there are benefits but in that the risk factor is very high because the ICO is the capital mobilization project

[sweetbet]

WOW!! It looks like BCC is here to stay and will eventually be giving BTC and the alt market a run for their money. It actually reached 0.24 today !! Investing in it now might be like investing in BTC a year or so ago.

[Ruggito]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-28/bitcoin-civil-war-over

Nice article to read ( I dunno if it was posted earlier on the thread). I'm not a fan of the cospiracy theories, but I admit that it could have some nice insights...

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Damn BCH has nearly doubled from the last time I checked the price. Thanks for the air drop Jihan
I'm going to have to do some proper resesrch soon to learn how to sell all my free BCH or do I wait a bit hmmmm

[RealBitcoin]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

Hehe, you have inadvertently triggered a tripwire and stepped on a landmine at the same time...

The Bitcoin Core developers and their corporate sponsors, Blockstream, determined that increasing Bitcoin's blocksize would cause catastrophic centralization and break the network. People here and elsewhere argued fiercely about this issue for FOUR YEARS, in a civil war that consumed many peoples' sanities...

Several Bitcoin Core devs tried to launch their own versions of Bitcoin with a larger blocksize, and all were ostracized from the Core dev group, and had their ability to commit code taken away (Gavin, Hearn, Garzik, etc.).

Suddenly, Bitcoin Cash came out of nowhere, and it "just works" with 8MB blocks. The timing of it was perfect because Bitcoin Core forced the network to soft fork to support Segwit, their (inferior) scaling solution that doesn't increase the blocksize at all.

I dont think their corporate sponsors really care about decentralization. Corporations are centralized like hell and they are only in it for the money.

But I agree, that a 8 mb block size will decrease the node count rapidly, in 1 year you will barely see any nodes in BCH, and that will limit the security and the censorship resistance to it. Combine this with the fact that BCH is already controlled heavily by mining cartels, it just shows you how centralize it is.

But I am not against BCH, I think it's a good experiment that is worth the test to see which one survives and adapts better to the environment.

[Ar1st0]

I think one of the best prospective coin is BCC, b'cz the volume currently increase.

[classicsucks]

is it true that bitcoincash found first 8mb block ?  my friend is saying that this pump is because of that 8mb block found?

Bitcoin cash recently mined the 8 mb block and that is the reason for this price jump and the rally is going strong and this is the coin which is at the second spot when it comes to valuation and so it is never considered a joke and if they could run successfully mining with 8MB blocks and make things faster then what is the problem with it.

thanks for explanation . i got some questions .is everything same except block size? i don't get it. if it is that simple then why they don't do this to bitcoin?

Hehe, you have inadvertently triggered a tripwire and stepped on a landmine at the same time...

The Bitcoin Core developers and their corporate sponsors, Blockstream, determined that increasing Bitcoin's blocksize would cause catastrophic centralization and break the network. People here and elsewhere argued fiercely about this issue for FOUR YEARS, in a civil war that consumed many peoples' sanities...

Several Bitcoin Core devs tried to launch their own versions of Bitcoin with a larger blocksize, and all were ostracized from the Core dev group, and had their ability to commit code taken away (Gavin, Hearn, Garzik, etc.).

Suddenly, Bitcoin Cash came out of nowhere, and it "just works" with 8MB blocks. The timing of it was perfect because Bitcoin Core forced the network to soft fork to support Segwit, their (inferior) scaling solution that doesn't increase the blocksize at all.

But I agree, that a 8 mb block size will decrease the node count rapidly, in 1 year you will barely see any nodes in BCH, and that will limit the security and the censorship resistance to it. Combine this with the fact that BCH is already controlled heavily by mining cartels, it just shows you how centralize it is.

LOL still copypasting those Kore talking points?

The cheapest part of running a node is the hard drive - 1TB is standard now. The bandwidth to sync full 8MB blocks all day and night is really trivial if you're hosting at a datacenter, far less than even a mildly popular website covered in sh*tty ads... So don't worry about nodes.

Mining is where you want to worry about centralization anyway, and that happened in 2014 with BTC, and most other coins too...

[bustomi]

Bitcoincash still have many possibilities now, although after the price pump recently it's become no joke anymore

[Getmon]

Bitcoincash still have many possibilities now, although after the price pump recently it's become no joke anymore

That was why I was thinking it was too early to judge this coin. It has just been introduced so we still cannot see the entire future of this coin. There was early pump followed by a huge dump, and the price is now moving up and down just like any other. Let us just wait and see where this coin will reach.

[cryptotal]

BCH and BTC are of same origin. They just gave people option to choose a better performing crypto. And others to get rich as well.

[realhobo669]

Its not a joke,clone version of blockchain from 1st august,Price is above $600 If bitcoin is 24 K gold, its 4K gold

[sweerty1]

I don't think it is a joke or shitcoin. I am pretty careful about bitcoin cash as I don't plan to buy at all but I think it will be good project after a year. Just watching them right now.

[senin]

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

To be fair, being a copycat is kind of a good thing. Their code is likely to be less buggy if they copy the tried and tested code and only modify small amounts of it themselves.

Anyway, I suppose we'll have to find out after August 1st who the market supports.  I agree that Bitcoin Cash doing to well is unlikely - kwukduck started a thread saying that it would do well, so now I'm quite convinced that it won't.

From the position after the first of August, we can say that it turned out well. Created Bitcoin Cash, which separated from Bitcoin and has a fairly high rate. And since its inception, it basically grows and surprisingly reached about $ 900. Although many predicted that he would die quickly.

[LVC]

I don't think BCC's a joke, but because of the similarity of it between BTC, people might consider it as some sort of unauthorized copycat. Fact is, with this promising but not highly competitive cryptocurrency market background, a coin that is similar to BTC but with some other merits would actually be a good fit, especially for those who now think Bitcoin is a good asset but missed the prime opportunity to invest in it.

[wildflower18]

BCH and BTC are of same origin. They just gave people option to choose a better performing crypto. And others to get rich as well.

I dont think Bch is a joke. It become known because of bitcoin, yes they just give option to choose between bch and btc. Somehow they are correlated with each other, but you know its early to predict what may the outcome of Bch.

[Fourgh]

I think they are just trying to make transaction rates faster. The purpose is good but the means are not so great in achieving it because they want users to use a different currency.

[agus_purno]

I don't think BCC's a joke, but because of the similarity of it between BTC, people might consider it as some sort of unauthorized copycat. Fact is, with this promising but not highly competitive cryptocurrency market background, a coin that is similar to BTC but with some other merits would actually be a good fit, especially for those who now think Bitcoin is a good asset but missed the prime opportunity to invest in it.

Indeed many people assume that BCC is a joke or just as a duplicate bitcoin means the person does not know about how BCC exists, and with the process how it formed.

[harimauagam]

This is a joke as far as i know there is no cashcoin because bitcoin to pay us in game only with coin ,, if there is bitcoincash where it is his country.

[izumaki]

I don't think bitcoincash has a good aim, if not to steal the shine off bitcoin, buy using its name however the market will decide what it wants, but i see it as a competitor to Litecoin and ethereum not bitcoin

[Zionatin]

I don't think so. Anything that makes me money cannot be a joke and it has made me money for completely free though I'm holding most of my Bitcoin cash I only sold a small amount of it.

[Sam San]

I don't think so. Anything that makes me money cannot be a joke and it has made me money for completely free though I'm holding most of my Bitcoin cash I only sold a small amount of it.

everything that makes money, this is not a joke, and the business

[rindo]

Far away from a joke. Any Bitcoin fork, that will result in an new Altcoin, should be taken in consideration. The developers of Bitcoin Cash,named as Bitcoin ABS, reveled last Monday that they will make a an improvement on BCH software until the 1º of November, that will bring important changes on adjustment of difficulty level of mining on the network. Predicted to be activated on 13 of November, the new software will adjust the emergency of difficulty, with the goal of attracting more miners to the network.

[bigdude]

And now bitcoincash have it situation on the market.
This is new tech and will be strong as time over and more miners will support it

[Mark537]

Yes. It's a joke.

[krypt0n1]

While I don't support bitcoin cash, it doesn't mean I don't see what it is trying to do. There are many pros and cons and I personally feel more cons at this point.

With that said, I think it's proven it's not a shit coin and is being taken seriously by a large group of people. It also has a roadmap that could help it gain traction.

Nov 2 OKex futures
Nov 13 EDA removal HF
Nov 15 NYA SW2x
Jan '18 Release on Coinbase

Time and adoption will ultimately decide it's fate, regardless of what you read from lovers and haters of the project.

[Capradina]

Hahah, this I think is not a thing that should be debated. Because it all happened because the circumstances are not yet support or did not have it to be able to exert influence or life for bitcoin cash. I think that we all know well about the emergence of bitcoincash, so it would be much better if you do not trust the bitcoincash be higher then focus on something that you trust can make you earn a lot advantage. because this question will never be useful.
 

[cbIpok]

Bitcoincash is not a joke, he just entered this market very quickly. I think Bitcoincash's price will increase more rapidly over time. Because people seem to get used to it.

[irfanrete]

It looks like to me that it has the same people behind it as the Bitcoin Unlimited, but it's only a couple months old:

https://www.bitcoinabc.org/  - Created Date: 2017-05-09
https://www.bitcoincash.org/ -  Created Date: 2017-03-05

They want to do a 8 MB hardfork on August 1

Bitcoin Cash provides much needed relief to users with an immediate increase of the block size limit to 8MB.

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.

I wonder of "We the People", as in 40 billion $, will trust a 3 month old website and a lame copycat of the Bitcoin Core software.

In my personal opinion
Though bitcoin cash was a copycat of bitcoin, still bitcoin cash has higher value than any other altcoins so you cannot take it as a joke.
 If you have bcc, there will be a bigger opportunity for you to profit from it.
 Thanks God cause it does not affect bitcoin price even if many are dumping it. Its still early to conclude about bcc so let's wait and see.

[zarados]

$1.4 billion volume, $9.1 billion market cap, $543 price . If you're looking this on CMC, you shouldn't  call bitcoin cash a joke. It is number 3 on the top cryptocurrency, and always be on top traded in most of the big exchange. The one you should call a joke was a bitcoin gold.

[feelideb]

Bitcoin cash far from been a joke with it's cap running into million now how do you call that a joke. Our love for bitcoin must not make us paranoia!

[Synaesthesia]

$1.4 billion volume, $9.1 billion market cap, $543 price . If you're looking this on CMC, you shouldn't  call bitcoin cash a joke. It is number 3 on the top cryptocurrency, and always be on top traded in most of the big exchange. The one you should call a joke was a bitcoin gold.

lol, BitcoinCash has become one of the biggest Coins in the world. Poor the people who have invested in BitcoinCashT What do you think about BitcoinGold?

[TheBitfi]

Bitfi Will Not Add Support for Bitcoin Cash (BCH) to Its Wallet Ecosystem due to BitcoinCash (BCH) misleading and deceptive practices.

PRESS RELEASE  UPDATED: APR 24, 2019 00:24 EDT
ASHEVILLE, N.C., April 24, 2019 (Newswire.com) - ​​​​

Bitfi announced today that it has made a formal decision not to add Bitcoin Cash (BCH) to its wallet ecosystem. Management believes that Bitcoin Cash (BCH), while having a sound and useful technology, is operating a PR and advertising campaign that is confusing, especially to newcomers to the digital asset market. As such, Bitfi believes, it is acutely damaging and toxic to the industry if investors are not sure what the real Bitcoin (BTC) is. According to Bitfi, the confusion surrounding these two currencies is one of the primary reasons that cryptocurrency entered a sharp bear market at the end of 2017.   

The founders of Bitcoin Cash (BCH) operate the internet property Bitcoin.com and a Twitter handle @Bitcoin, both with significant traffic and a large number of followers. Despite the fact that it is demonstrably false that Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is Bitcoin (BTC), information asserting that Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is Bitcoin (BTC) continues to be disseminated. The consequences and the disruption caused to the stability of the cryptocurrency market are wide-reaching.   

In addition, at the end of 2017, Bitmain, a Chinese hardware mining manufacturer, engaged in aggressive selling of large quantities of Bitcoin (BTC) into the price rally (https://bitsonline.com/bitmain-sells-btc-bch-ipo/), using the capital to prop up the price of Bitcoin Cash (BCH) as revealed in documents that were disclosed for Bitmain’s IPO filing. According to Bitfi, this was likely done in the hopes of flipping the price of Bitcoin (BTC) and Bitcoin Cash (BCH) in order to take over the name Bitcoin, which would then be controlled by several powerful companies and individuals.   

Bitfi believes that as a result of the way information is presented on properties like Bitcoin.com, many new investors come to believe that Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is Bitcoin (BTC), and indeed Bitfi receives several inquiries a week from users who have accidentally sent Bitcoin Cash (BCH) to their Bitcoin (BTC) address. Savvy and accredited investors won’t participate in the market at all due to the continued friction and turmoil. 

Bitfi believes that this is contrary to everything that Bitcoin (BTC) stands for. Bitfi also believes that if it were not for this confusion, both Bitcoin (BTC) and Bitcoin Cash (BCH) would be currently trading at a much higher price, ordinary people would not be losing money on a daily basis by purchasing the “wrong Bitcoin” and the market would have accelerated adoption for global use.   

Bitfi feels it would be irresponsible to add support for Bitcoin Cash (BCH) until the founders of the Bitcoin Cash (BCH) clarify that Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is a fork off the original Bitcoin (BTC) blockchain. Once these changes are made, Bitfi will add support for the coin.   

About Bitfi

Bitfi is a global payments technology company that is developing new methods for holding and securing digital assets to surpass cold storage. Its wallet does not store private keys, making it the world’s only wallet that cannot be seized. www.bitfi.com 

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[shinratensei_]

BCH and BTC are of same origin. They just gave people option to choose a better performing crypto. And others to get rich as well.

I dont think Bch is a joke. It become known because of bitcoin, yes they just give option to choose between bch and btc. Somehow they are correlated with each other, but you know its early to predict what may the outcome of Bch.

Can you tell me the reason why bitcoin cash is not a joke? They are not correlation from one to each other but bitcoin cash has only used the popularity of bitcoin to get its hype. that's a joke coin same with any other fork coin.

[jan.nicolas]

The community does not seriously react to how it develops and generally does not take seriously the BCH project, because this project is trying to kill BTC, but it simply will not work. There are a lot of us and people understand that BCH is a dummy.

[Spaffin]

The community does not seriously react to how it develops and generally does not take seriously the BCH project, because this project is trying to kill BTC, but it simply will not work. There are a lot of us and people understand that BCH is a dummy.

Bitcoin cash has surprised a lot of people.

I believe that the team that tried to use Bitcoin cash to implement the idea of ​​bringing this coin to the leaders of the cryptocurrency market and practically destroy other cryptocurrencies not only made incorrect and loud statements, but also overestimated their strength.  Personally, I do not consider the value of Bitcoin doubles seriously at all.

[Best Dreams]

The community does not seriously react to how it develops and generally does not take seriously the BCH project, because this project is trying to kill BTC, but it simply will not work. There are a lot of us and people understand that BCH is a dummy.

Bitcoin cash has surprised a lot of people.

I believe that the team that tried to use Bitcoin cash to implement the idea of ​​bringing this coin to the leaders of the cryptocurrency market and practically destroy other cryptocurrencies not only made incorrect and loud statements, but also overestimated their strength.  Personally, I do not consider the value of Bitcoin doubles seriously at all.

Yes people were not expecting that fast in last year people were only using it to invest money but now they are using it to  buy goods all kind of needs. We can enjoy shopping buying things and having all facilities of life, bitcoin cash is easy way to enjoy your life by having money along with investment.

[Dobmaster]

Yes, indeed, now you can buy a lot for Bitcoin, cars, yachts, real estate, with a wallet you can pay for goods via the Internet - this is very convenient! Soon paper money will go out of use altogether.

[hugabase]

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