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August 02, 2017, 06:01:41 AM
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I have just read this article about Pres Trump not allowing transgender to serve in military
I respect transgenders as long as they are physically fit and can do their duty, there is no problem.


I really don't think most transgender would do that. Example, a transwoman would be doing fashion related things and joining pageants. While transman would be in the gym and hangout with girls. They want to live their lives opposite to their genders so serving the military would be out of the list.
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August 02, 2017, 09:05:12 AM
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I believe that these people have mental illnesses and they should not be allowed to serve in the army so that there is no attempt at suicide or committing the murder of their colleagues.

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August 02, 2017, 09:40:30 AM
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I believe that these people have mental illnesses and they should not be allowed to serve in the army so that there is no attempt at suicide or committing the murder of their colleagues.

I agree. Homosexuality is understandable, but not trans-sexuality. The trans people are mostly perverts who needs to be isolated from the society. The HIV prevalence among them is even higher than that among the homosexual people.
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August 02, 2017, 01:08:54 PM
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I think transgender people do not want to serve in the army, but even if they have such a desire, they will need to undergo a medical examination that should show that their health is suitable for military service.

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August 02, 2017, 01:37:51 PM
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this is not right. not all transgenders are capable but some are so there shouldn't be ban but actually should be  different"process" to select right person
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August 02, 2017, 05:53:52 PM
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As long as you have the will and the heart to serve the country, you should be given a chance to do so. Even if you're a transgender or not, gender shouldn't be an issue in this case.

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August 03, 2017, 01:21:25 AM
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As long as you have the will and the heart to serve the country, you should be given a chance to do so. Even if you're a transgender or not, gender shouldn't be an issue in this case.

I agree. A long as they are not asking for any special benefits, and as long as they are not causing any discomfort to their fellow soldiers, they should be allowed to serve (although I doubt how practical will that be).

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August 03, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
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There need special conditions for them. This leads to increased costs. Why do they need if you have normal soldiers? I am not a supporter but Tump in this direction, I support it. The army is not a place where you can play in democracy.

I feel the US should just have two presidents, one Pres for everything gender/sex/SJW related, and the other Pres for the important stuff like diplomacy, grand strategy and economy.

There's like what? a total of less than 100 transgender in the whole country that want to join the military? If the President spend any time on this issue, it's a huge waste of resource and tax payer money. There are tons of more pressing and important issues facing the United States.

Reminds me of the President in the Philippines. Lashing out at America for stolen church bells during America's "pacification" of the Philippines while ignoring islands being taken, occupied and built on by China. These leaders need to think about the bigger stuff. That would be hugely better for everyone. Wink
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August 03, 2017, 06:15:49 PM
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I have just read this article about Pres Trump not allowing transgender to serve in military
I respect transgenders as long as they are physically fit and can do their duty, there is no problem.
I think as a person
A transgender citizen is also entitled to defend his country and join in the army, but as a state agency, the military also has their own rules in which to become a soldier must have strong physical as well as strong mental and psychological, while a transgender not necessarily have a mental And strong psychological as normal human in general.
Sorry, this is just an opinion, I do not hate a transgender as a human being.
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I think that this rule is stupid, people of all gender or race should be able
to serve their country if they are physically and mentally capable for the job.

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There need special conditions for them. This leads to increased costs. Why do they need if you have normal soldiers? I am not a supporter but Tump in this direction, I support it. The army is not a place where you can play in democracy.

I feel the US should just have two presidents, one Pres for everything gender/sex/SJW related, and the other Pres for the important stuff like diplomacy, grand strategy and economy.

There's like what? a total of less than 100 transgender in the whole country that want to join the military? If the President spend any time on this issue, it's a huge waste of resource and tax payer money. There are tons of more pressing and important issues facing the United States.

Reminds me of the President in the Philippines. Lashing out at America for stolen church bells during America's "pacification" of the Philippines while ignoring islands being taken, occupied and built on by China. These leaders need to think about the bigger stuff. That would be hugely better for everyone. Wink

This is what I never understood about the bathroom ban nonsense. For my 31 years on this Earth, I have never been in a restroom with a transgender person, nor do I know anyone who has. Furthering that, I have met a single actual transgender person; dude looks like a lady and to be real, you would not be able to tell. Bottom line is, transgendered folks, knowing the social climate they exist in, are pretty low key individuals. Aside from the fact they compose less than half of a percent of the human population. I dont like to see anyone get discriminated against, but truly there is more important shit to talk about at the moment, no?

If you want to get blown the fuck up for the government, by all means go ahead. I dont have the nuts for it, myself, so I respect anyone willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for hearth and home. They could have two heads and a tail, no fucks given. This is true patriotism; fighting for a country that doesnt want you there Wink
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There need special conditions for them. This leads to increased costs. Why do they need if you have normal soldiers? I am not a supporter but Tump in this direction, I support it. The army is not a place where you can play in democracy.

I feel the US should just have two presidents, one Pres for everything gender/sex/SJW related, and the other Pres for the important stuff like diplomacy, grand strategy and economy.

There's like what? a total of less than 100 transgender in the whole country that want to join the military? If the President spend any time on this issue, it's a huge waste of resource and tax payer money. There are tons of more pressing and important issues facing the United States.

Reminds me of the President in the Philippines. Lashing out at America for stolen church bells during America's "pacification" of the Philippines while ignoring islands being taken, occupied and built on by China. These leaders need to think about the bigger stuff. That would be hugely better for everyone. Wink

This is what I never understood about the bathroom ban nonsense. For my 31 years on this Earth, I have never been in a restroom with a transgender person, nor do I know anyone who has. Furthering that, I have met a single actual transgender person; dude looks like a lady and to be real, you would not be able to tell. Bottom line is, transgendered folks, knowing the social climate they exist in, are pretty low key individuals. Aside from the fact they compose less than half of a percent of the human population. I dont like to see anyone get discriminated against, but truly there is more important shit to talk about at the moment, no?

If you want to get blown the fuck up for the government, by all means go ahead. I dont have the nuts for it, myself, so I respect anyone willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for hearth and home. They could have two heads and a tail, no fucks given. This is true patriotism; fighting for a country that doesnt want you there Wink

Actually, the leftist propaganda machines promulgated directives that specified transgender was a priority topic. This was helped by the "American bathroom ban." This fake "controversy" had a goal and a purpose, to keep people from discussing important things.

It was and is a sideshow and a distraction.
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I think that this rule is stupid, people of all gender or race should be able
to serve their country if they are physically and mentally capable for the job.

But I am not sure whether these transgenders are mentally capable of serving in the army. When they are not sure about their gender, how can they fight in the frontline? The only place where they should be serving is in mental hospitals, and not in the army barracks.

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August 04, 2017, 05:03:48 AM
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That's so racist. Every person no matter what they are can join in any other aspects of what they like to do. Every people have a equality and no matter what is his/her religion, status, gender, etc.

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This is a good decision. Because if they are drafted in to the army, then the transgenders will ask for special privileges such as separate toilets for them. And the military might find it hard to accommodate all their demands. When they decide to become transgenders, these people forfeit certain rights. The possibility of becoming a soldier is one of those rights.

Well I guess that won't happen. How sure are you that they will ask for that? In the first place, Military had discipline Transgender or not they will follow the rules. Transgenders are normal people too, why does military would have a hard time to accommodate their needs? Military do certain rules and regulations that applies to both men and women. If they decide to become a transgenders, that does mean they can't serve their country? Is that what you are trying to say? Becoming a soldier should not be based from sexuality and beliefs. Once you entered the military you all have the same code, which to serve and protect.


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This is a good decision. Because if they are drafted in to the army, then the transgenders will ask for special privileges such as separate toilets for them. And the military might find it hard to accommodate all their demands. When they decide to become transgenders, these people forfeit certain rights. The possibility of becoming a soldier is one of those rights.

Well I guess that won't happen. How sure are you that they will ask for that? In the first place, Military had discipline Transgender or not they will follow the rules. Transgenders are normal people too, why does military would have a hard time to accommodate their needs? Military do certain rules and regulations that applies to both men and women. If they decide to become a transgenders, that does mean they can't serve their country? Is that what you are trying to say? Becoming a soldier should not be based from sexuality and beliefs. Once you entered the military you all have the same code, which to serve and protect.

So which restrooms are they going to use? They can't use the ladies' restrooms, as the female soldiers would object to it. Anyway, how can someone with a penis be allowed inside a ladies' restroom, just because they claim that they are female on the inside? If the army ask them to use the gents' restroom, then these people are not going to obey.

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August 04, 2017, 08:24:41 AM
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Actually I agree with your opinion, but if seen from the aspect of their skills great, why not?

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August 04, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
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100% agree.   I wouldn't want someone that is likely suicidal covering me in combat.   Almost 50% have attempted suicide that is reason enough to ban them.   That statistic alone disqualifies them.   Hell when I tried to join the military 15 years ago I was disqualified because of asthma.   Gtfo here with this nonsense that they are just like everyone else.   
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August 04, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
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Transgender and homosexuals in my understanding of mentally ill people. As such people can be trusted with a gun? Suicides among the military happen very often. Among the crazies this phenomenon will spread much more often. They have nothing to do in the army.
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August 04, 2017, 02:18:03 PM
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transgender or not as long as they serve and do their duty then theres no problem with that. There are no gender requirement in serving your country thats what i believe,
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