Has anyone been able to send a transaction using Electrum/ Electron Cash so far?

[HCP]

Where exactly is it getting stuck? when you try to restore the wallet using your 2FA seed? or when you are trying to send the BCH transaction?

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[rjg20000]

It gets stuck on "please wait" after you enter the seed to restore the wallet to a standard wallet. Using Electron Cash 2.9.2 on a MAC. Not sure what else to try. 

[HCP]

Ok... so I think I've found a way to work around the "Please wait" issue

Short Version: Use Electrum to create your "disabled" 2FA wallet, then open that wallet in ElectronCash


Long Version (with pictures):

Requirements:
-Electron Cash v2.9.3 that can be downloaded here: http://electroncash.org/
-Electrum v2.9.3 that can be downloaded here: https://electrum.org/#download
-Your TrustedCoin 2FA wallet 12 word recovery seed. If you don't have this, you cannot recover the funds under any circumstances


1. Open Electrum. Do NOT open ElectronCash just yet.

2. "File" -> "New\Restore", Type a wallet name. I'd suggest using something easy to remember. Click "Next":




3. Select the second option "Wallet with two-factor authentication" and click "Next":




4. You will see the TrustedCoin disclaimer. Click Next.

5. Select the second option: "I already have a seed" and click Next:




6. Type your 12 word recovery seed (you should see a message appear next to the "Options" button that says "Seed Type: 2FA"). Click Next

7. Select the second option: "Disable" (This is VERY important) and click Next:




9. You will then be prompted to create a password for the wallet. This is optional, but recommended. After a few seconds, Electrum will recover your wallet using your seed and then you'll see this window:




10. Click "File" again and then click "Save copy". Now in the next window, it will give you the option of saving a backup of the wallet. Pick an easy to find location like the Desktop as you will need to find this wallet again soon. Also, use an easy to remember name and click "Save". You will see a message box confirming the location where you saved the wallet backup. Click "OK" and then close Electrum.

11. Now, open up ElectronCash

12. "File" -> "Open". Look for the wallet backup file you just saved in step #10. (Note: If you used a password for the wallet at step #9, you will be prompted to enter the password.)

13. You should now have your "disabled" 2FA wallet open in ElectronCash, ready for spending your BCH



Credits: Method suggested by DarkLord_GMS in this post on the ElectronCash GitHub issues list.

[Klerni]

It's more than strange, but in wallet I've generated in that way there is 0 BCC

on wallet which I have on my PC (2FA), there are BCC.

I don't know, but maybe it's generating new private keys, because it has generated new wallet basing on seed.. The problem is that on BTC wallet there are no BTC anymore and its long time after fork, so new private keys don't contain old informations.

[HCP]

The seed is the starting point... The whole point is that it will recreate the same wallet every time you restore with the same addresses and same transactions etc.

I don't understand what you mean by "wallet on your PC (2FA) has BCC"... What other wallet have you generated that has 0 BCC?

[Klerni]

I mean that first time after I installed Electron Cash, it automatically found correct wallet from Electrum where are Bitcoin Cash. I can see them, but this wallet is under 2FA, so nothing can do. I made copy of my priv keys and seed just after I created my first and only wallet in Electrum.. I have them and it cannot be something else. Unfortunately if I'm creating wallet in way you said, there are no BCH if I'm opening them in Electron Cash... Really

[HCP]

So if you restore using your seed and making it 2FA, it has BCH, but if you restore and disable 2FA it doesn't? That doesn't seem right

[rjg20000]

Klerni is correct. I did this exact same process and the BCC stay with the original 2FA wallet which unfortunately nobody can current transfer any coins out of.  Will keep trying to find a solution to this.

[Klerni]

Unfortunately..

We are working on it too..
Very stupid thing, cuz I need and want my BCH

@edit

If anyone have any idea... all people who have same issue will appreciate! ..

[HCP]

Does your seed restore your normal 2FA wallet in Electrum ok? If it does, then you should be able to restore it in Electrum and select the "Disable" option. You should then be able to open the "disabled" wallet file in ElectronCash and get access to your BCH.

I've tested this.. it works

[rjg20000]

Does your seed restore your normal 2FA wallet in Electrum ok? If it does, then you should be able to restore it in Electrum and select the "Disable" option. You should then be able to open the "disabled" wallet file in ElectronCash and get access to your BCH.

I've tested this.. it works

Tried this exact process again and the new 2fa (disabled) wallet opens in Electron Cash but no BCC show up in it.

Question, do I need to delete the old 2fa wallet file that works with my BCC? Or should I try this process on a completely different machine and maybe it will work then?

[HCP]

Question, do I need to delete the old 2fa wallet file that works with my BCC? Or should I try this process on a completely different machine and maybe it will work then?

You shouldn't need to delete anything or use a different computer.

If your "old 2fa wallet" that you can open in ElectronCash shows BCH, but when you "restore" your seed and the "new 2fa (disabled) wallet" shows 0, then I suspect you are actually restoring a completely different seed! Are the addresses in the two wallets the same?

[rjg20000]

Question, do I need to delete the old 2fa wallet file that works with my BCC? Or should I try this process on a completely different machine and maybe it will work then?

You shouldn't need to delete anything or use a different computer.

If your "old 2fa wallet" that you can open in ElectronCash shows BCH, but when you "restore" your seed and the "new 2fa (disabled) wallet" shows 0, then I suspect you are actually restoring a completely different seed! Are the addresses in the two wallets the same?

You sir are the man I thank you very much for the help. So I realized my error, I was trying to recreate the wallet with the seed from the initial BCC on Electron Cash rather than the seed from the original BTC wallet. So to sum it up, HCP's "please wait" workaround works perfectly, you simply must use your original Electrum BTC seed not your Electron Cash seed.


Also would advise not to use 2FA on Electrum and Electron Cash due to these issues.

[BlackBramle]

Thank you HCP!!
I just made an account on this site so I could say thanks for the detailed walk through help post.
It worked and now I have been able to move my BitcoinCash out of my wallet
 Cheers

[Klerni]

Believe me or not, I have picture from seed from "ELECTRUM" and even if I type it to new Electron Cash wallet... it's empty, while my wallet (2fa) is full of bch...

If u don't believe me I can send u this picture.

[Klerni]

I've just reminded this situation..

1) I created wallet and wrote down seed
2) For whatever reason I came back to previous process - to check something
3) Then I have seen while generating wallet there appear new seed, .. so I wrote down new seed and deleted previous one, because it was already different.
4) I came to next point and then on this new wallet I made all moves..

Is it possible that Electrum had error and it was all happening on first seed, even if it has shown new one which I saved?

If yes... what can I do now..?

I have access to 2-fa codes and have all private keys

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I MUST RECOVER IT!! :/ It's really important for me now.

[HCP]

Firstly, the 2FA codes are pointless for BCH recovery... TrustedCoin do NOT support BCH and have said they will not be supporting it in the foreseeable future. This means any Electrum 2FA account you have needs to be 2FA DISABLED when you restore to ElectronCash or you will not be able to sign the transactions.

Having the private keys is also not likely to help... as it is a 2FA wallet, it is a 2of3 MultiSig and all your addresses are actually combinations of THREE private keys. Two controlled by your seed, One controlled by TrustedCoin. You need the seed to be able to restore the two private keys to your local wallet so you can sign the transactions... as TrustedCoin will not.

I think you may need to test your seed in Electrum and forget about ElectronCash for the moment. Have you tried creating a new copy of your BTC wallet in Electrum to see if the seed you have written down is actually the correct one for you wallet? It sounds like you might have accidentally created multiple wallets and have been using the "wrong" wallet... believing it to be the one created from your written down seed.

in Electrum do the following:

1. File -> New\Restore -> enter a new wallet file name like "newWallet" -> Standard Wallet -> I already a seed
2. Enter your 2FA seed... you should see some text that says "seed type: 2FA" appear next to the "Options" button
3. Click next and you should be prompted to "Keep" or "Disable"... select DISABLE and click Next
4. Your wallet will be restored.
5. Check that the addresses in this "new" wallet match the addresses in your "original" wallet.

If the addresses match, you have the correct seed and you should be able to get your BCH if they don't match, then you have the wrong seed and recovering your BCH is unlikely

[Klerni]

... receiving addresses are not same

[HCP]

Then, unfortunately, it sounds like you have been using a wallet that does not match the seed you have saved

If you do not have the other seed from when you were creating the wallet, then your chances of being able to recover the BCH are slim to none.

At best, you'll be able to recover the BTC currently in your 2FA wallet by sending it out to a new wallet, but because TrustedCoin don't support BCH, the only way to get BCH out is to create a restored wallet with 2FA disabled (using the seed) so it has 2 of the master private keys required to sign transactions... and you dont have the right seed, so that isn't possible

[Klerni]

So.. I want to share with you guys, that found solution and recovered my Bitcoin Cash!

Solution is... directly contact to Trusted Coin company. They are not obligated to help, cuz they have no agreement with Electron Cash, so I wouldn't expect this solution will work for everyone (they are just busy), but on the other hand they saved somehow my life, so I want to say officially thank you and recommend Trusted Coin as company of "Trust" . 

This is dedicated thank you to Lucas Ryan, who solved that. He is just one of those good guys, who really want to help, there were no fee's, just help.

Thank you also to all of you who tried to solve this problem on this forum.

Best Regards
Paweł