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August 12, 2017, 11:01:20 PM
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These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.

Forget about the scaling war for a minute. And don't worry about names.

What you seem to be oblivious to is that "Original bitcoin" just forcefully soft-forked to a completely different block storage and validation system (Segwit), which is as of yet unproven. Miners who don't wish to use Segwit have NO CHOICE but to use it if they want their blocks to be accepted. So "original bitcoin" has changed by 6000 lines of code, and the network is working very differently at this very moment. Most people on this forum seem happy about this new change, but that doesn't mean that "original bitcoin" remains the same. Furthermore, new attack vectors have been uncovered by Segwit.

Bitcoin Cash, on the other hand, opted to remain with the ORIGINAL BITCOIN block storage and validation method - no Segwit. Are you starting to see my point?



You can ignore segwit if you don't like it, the fact that miners must block segwit enabled bitcoins has no impact on your BTC holdings.

It is a soft fork. What did you expect, to create an altcoin that has segwit? that would create a crash on the price, and the main point was to avoid a hardfork so we don't end up with a bunch of different bitcoins all claiming to be the original bitcoin.

The legacy chain is the original bitcoin, with or without segwit. Maybe in the future a reasonable hardfork can be made, not anytime soon.

If BCash is so awesome and original bitcoin, then dump your BTC for BCC.
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!

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August 12, 2017, 11:45:36 PM
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You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.
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August 13, 2017, 12:04:50 AM
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You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL
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August 13, 2017, 12:23:44 AM
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What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

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August 13, 2017, 12:33:23 AM
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Bitcoin cash will grow, but it will always remain in the shadow of bitcoin.
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August 13, 2017, 12:51:52 AM
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You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL

I'm with you. Bch is a dead-born copy of real bitcoin. Nobody believes in Bch and everybody dumped it very hard. There is no future in Bch because there is not any objective for it. It's not like bitcoin and it will never have the usage of bitcoin.
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August 13, 2017, 02:01:42 AM
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You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL

I'm with you. Bch is a dead-born copy of real bitcoin. Nobody believes in Bch and everybody dumped it very hard. There is no future in Bch because there is not any objective for it. It's not like bitcoin and it will never have the usage of bitcoin.

although bcc is failed product but we realize that from bcc, we can make money too especially if bcc is start to increase although bcc is not the same as bitcoin but at least, we have free bcc in first time launch. but if in the future, bcc can not give anything for people, then bcc will be abandon and people will leave from bcc.

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August 13, 2017, 02:02:37 AM
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What are you talking about? I see that you are a BCH supporter but you should know that Bitcoin clone aka. BCH,  has no future.
I think Bitcoin Cash have a future because of it's supporters that continiuosly investing on it but it will never be like bitcoin or BCH can't dominate bitcoin because bitcoin is the main currency of all of the altcoins and all of the investors supporting it not like BCH and look at how fast bitcoin rising this year is the proof that it will not be dominated by Bitcoin Cash.


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August 13, 2017, 02:37:33 AM
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it wouldn't be BCC if it's BTC, right? *mind blown*

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August 13, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
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Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
And what good is going to come to being able to have that many transactions per second in bitcoin cash when a spammer can create and fill the network with spam and then no transactions are going to get confirmed, how are they going to fight against that?

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August 13, 2017, 03:52:18 AM
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You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL

The one who will do this is totally insane, like its so riduculous, exchanging your btc to bcc? Its like exchanging gold to stone. Maybe there's a few who will support bcc but this few support doesnt make bcc to succeed. It will always be a trying hard, imitation coin. And I think bcc is controlling by some big whales thats why the price is still good.

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Meanwhile bitcoin hits $4500  Cool

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August 13, 2017, 09:11:58 AM
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What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
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100 years later BCH will be bitcoin in price, bitcoin will be the king of coin. OK, see now the price of BTC, it is  more than 3400 and BCH 0.08-0.09 BTC. BCH will be left by ETH and waves. BCH is shitcoin from China. I don't like chinese coin. I like BITCOIN.

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August 13, 2017, 11:38:46 AM
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Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

I don't think that Bitcoin Cash can level with or even surpass Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash has a future, maybe, but there are many greater altcoins out there and I think that Bitcoin Cash has a long way to go. But it's your opinion after all, I will take Bitcoin's side and will forever support bitcoin until the end.

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August 13, 2017, 03:36:21 PM
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I think bch can not possibly match the bitcoin because
 I think the bitcoin system is stronger than bch and the bitcoin also coins have been around for a long time
so that people are more familiar with bitcoin than bch.
If bch exceeds eth it is possible but if it equals or even exceeds btc i guess that is not possible

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August 13, 2017, 04:18:45 PM
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If Bitcoin cash was gonna take over the market share it had to happen in a more even way right after the split.

I think they have lost there opportunity now

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August 13, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
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100 years later BCH will be bitcoin in price, bitcoin will be the king of coin. OK, see now the price of BTC, it is  more than 3400 and BCH 0.08-0.09 BTC. BCH will be left by ETH and waves. BCH is shitcoin from China. I don't like chinese coin. I like BITCOIN.
Yes very true, with the Bitcoin Cash or BCH many people are trapped in the BCH, They lose their money because they think that BCC will go up like Bitcoin. Bitcoin cash shitcoin is very annoying.


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August 13, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
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Someone is obviously supporting it. It's not just people trapped in it but when price goes down you see big orders pumping money into it. Either someone believes in it or has a big stake in it

As long as that keeps happening, you can make good money on it.
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https://bitcoinandtheblockchain.blogspot.co.il/2017/08/btc-is-dead-long-live-btc-updated-and.html

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