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August 14, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
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Yes it will be the bitcoin but it has another word after it and it is cash. LOL.  Grin

Bitcoin Cash will remain as Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin is Bitcoin. It is not Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin Cash will never be Bitcoin because it has some tail in it. Never will a time comes when Bitcoin will be replaced by a copycat.
I think that he's not literally meant it. But i honestly agree with you, as for now the value of bitcoin is far above bitcoin cash and by seeing the network problem which bitcoin cash encounter, didn't really think it'll surpass bitcoin. well, people get their bcc for free, what do you expect than mass dumping?

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August 14, 2017, 12:30:42 PM
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After reading this topic I am in a dilemma.

Thinking of buying BCH if it rises above 500$. It is still too early to know which one will have more value, but I am optimistic, I believe they both will be very valuable, much more valuable than now, hundreds fold.

 

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August 14, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
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Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

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 i dont know what are you talking about, next btc ? lmao thats a nonsense even with these pumps and many new fans bcc will stil lcant overcome bitcoin , probably next couple of years but who knows , but i hope not

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August 14, 2017, 01:52:13 PM
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Behind any coin, there should be a strong belief that it's worth something, it's scalable and it's well known all over.
At the moment too many people think that Bcash is a temporary coin, the outcome of misunderstanding between developers groups.

We should all remember that no matter how some miners will put their mining power in the new coin, they have tons of Bitcoins still from the last few years. They all have interest in the continuance of Bitcoin growth.

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August 14, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
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Behind any coin, there should be a strong belief that it's worth something, it's scalable and it's well known all over.
At the moment too many people think that Bcash is a temporary coin, the outcome of misunderstanding between developers groups.

There is a tangible feeling among bitcoiners that Bitcoin Cash is temporary and will die. I think it's more likely just going through a distribution phase, where BTC supporters are dumping their BCH. Meanwhile, BCH supporters appear to be accumulating. There is a general feeling that BTC is the true "Bitcoin" and BCH is the altcoin. This probably won't change.

But like Ethereum Classic, Bitcoin Cash is not going away. There is also a small chance that (once mining is profitable) more and more hashpower will gradually be pointed at BCH. Why? Because it's Bitmain's project, and Bitmain controls a lot of hash power. I'd love to see what the markets do then.

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August 15, 2017, 01:19:41 AM
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BCC became BTC is baseless because to be like BTC it has to go through the darkest period and now bTC has come to light
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August 15, 2017, 01:25:01 AM
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BCC became BTC is baseless because to be like BTC it has to go through the darkest period and now bTC has come to light

I agree with you. BCC will never replace BTC. With me BCC very meaningless. It is free and I do not trust it.
BTC can not be replaced by any other coin.
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August 15, 2017, 02:12:52 AM
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The presence of BCC is of great interest to the crypto world.
But in my opinion BCC has not been able to equate with BTC.
Because of the BTC used to exist and take a long time to become the most expensive coins today.
So BCC should take a long time to be close to or equal to BTC.

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August 15, 2017, 02:33:16 AM
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bitcoin cash will never be the bitcoin but maybe bitcoin cash will be act like bitcoin. with bitcoin price is increasing, I am sure that many people can not buy a 1 bitcoin, they need big money to buy bitcoin. I think this could be the one of many reason why bitcoin cash is created. bitcoin cash make a balance between bitcoin and altcoin and I think soon we can see that there is a market for bitcoin cash pair altcoin and altcoin will be used bitcoin cash as their adjustment because bitcoin price is too expensive to be altcoin price adjustment. 


 
 
 
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August 15, 2017, 02:41:19 AM
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What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.


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August 16, 2017, 06:30:41 AM
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What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.

I agree. It would be best for all if we could avoid a significant network split. Bitfury has already shown signs that they are leaning towards pulling out. Unfortunately, though, they are small fish now. Bitmain is the real contender. And major bitcoin services like Bitpay and Coinbase want cheap on-chain fees.

So, if we have big names like Garzik (even though he is crap by bitcoin development standards), combined with majority hashpower via Bitmain and exchanges like Coinbase/payment processors like Bitpay, that's a lot of potential support for a fork. Bitpay has said they will follow majority hashpower, and they will take a lot of merchants/customers with them. Exchanges are even more important in that regard. I do hope we can avoid such a split, but it's probably good to be prepared for such scenarios.

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August 16, 2017, 06:37:36 AM
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Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.
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Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.

If it is backed by the Chinese government it can increase a lot in the future, although the real deal is bitcoin and that's where we should put our money.
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August 16, 2017, 10:49:43 AM
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What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.
To me, not need worry about the time HardFork in November, because if the price of Bitcoin reach to highest price, I will sell my Bitcoin.
Just saving small amount like provident funds in future Roll Eyes.



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August 16, 2017, 11:36:35 AM
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The big question is how BCC will move in regard to BTC for the foreseeable future.

BCC is in a transfer process, it'll be a while until holders of BTC have transferred the BCC to BCC wallets.
It seems reasonable that BTC followers are dumping to get as much as possible for the BCC.
BCC believers are likely accumulating since it's usually good to buy while others are dumping.

But then what? Once the dumping is done, will it start climbing or will it just fade away? For now the price of BCC seems to have leveled out and isn't moving all that much, but that won't go on forever. At some point it should start moving one way or the other. Will it move up or down once it starts moving?


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August 16, 2017, 12:28:07 PM
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Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
The fact that bitcoin cash are came from bitcoins it doesn't mean it will be the bitcoins. They are just getting started at this business their name was just exactly the same as the original but we cannot say that they will also be successful as what bitcoins had become. For me no one from this period of time will ever surpassed bitcoins maybe in the next century they will but today bitcoins are the best, the king of all cryptocurrencies.

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August 16, 2017, 01:29:02 PM
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Bitcoin is king of crypto currency.
Bitcoin is just not a currency , its an idea. And always remember "An idea is a very dangerous thing".
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August 16, 2017, 01:44:12 PM
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The big question is how BCC will move in regard to BTC for the foreseeable future.

BCC is in a transfer process, it'll be a while until holders of BTC have transferred the BCC to BCC wallets.
It seems reasonable that BTC followers are dumping to get as much as possible for the BCC.
BCC believers are likely accumulating since it's usually good to buy while others are dumping.

But then what? Once the dumping is done, will it start climbing or will it just fade away? For now the price of BCC seems to have leveled out and isn't moving all that much, but that won't go on forever. At some point it should start moving one way or the other. Will it move up or down once it starts moving?



Blocks have been quick enough for days. Your post would have made sense last week.


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August 17, 2017, 06:47:23 AM
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Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.

If it is backed by the Chinese government it can increase a lot in the future

Why would you possibly think it's backed by the Chinese government?

Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.

I still haven't done anything, mostly because it's too much of a risk and hassle to move my BTC from cold storage. The liquid BTC I have is small enough that it doesn't make it worth it, either. I think it'll form a long term base and pump like any other altcoin, eventually.

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Bitcoin core has established a great foundation all cryptocurrency business and investment are established in bitcoin core. Bitcoin Cash is established and it stands as altcoins it is not in competition with bitcoin core and I don't think  itcan replace bitcoin core.



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