Using Armory on the BCH chain

[alomar]

As one other and Jojo69 suggested I used bitcoin-abc-0.16.1-win64. And it worked just fine.

Maybe not with your operating system. 

there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

[justmyname]

As one other and Jojo69 suggested I used bitcoin-abc-0.16.1-win64. And it worked just fine.

Maybe not with your operating system.  

there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

So they're forking BCH also. Interesting.

I moved my BTC and BCH coins off of Armory. Their is only one developer left and we still don't have a BTG signer available. These coins are worth a significant amount of money. Sort of like a stock split or dividend.

Hardware wallets have software to separate the significant coins. You can have many different types coins on them without downloading the blockchain.

[alomar]

As one other and Jojo69 suggested I used bitcoin-abc-0.16.1-win64. And it worked just fine.

Maybe not with your operating system. 

there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

So their forking BCH also. Interesting.

I moved my BTC and BCH coins off of Armory. Their is only one developer left and we still don't have a BTG signer available. These coins are worth a significant amount of money. Sort of like a stock split or dividend.

Hardware wallets have software to separate the significant coins. You can have many different types coins on them without downloading the blockchain.

you shouldn't necessarily concerned.  ABC has made it clear from the beginning that they are planning hard forks q6mo as routine upgrades.  i don't necessarily agree with that but i believe their intentions to be good.  we'll see.  i agree that we should be able to harvest altcoins but i'm sure you'll get some sort of response like code it yourself.    i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

[Holliday]

i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I would certainly prefer goatpig work on Bitcoin features and keeping the wallet up to date with the Bitcoin ecosystem, along with bug fixes and general improvements, as opposed to wasting time adding support for every forked shitcoin that someone dreams up. Armory is a Bitcoin wallet, after all.

Besides, one is able to access their forked shitcoins with other methods if so desired.

[justmyname]

i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I would certainly prefer goatpig work on Bitcoin features and keeping the wallet up to date with the Bitcoin ecosystem, along with bug fixes and general improvements, as opposed to wasting time adding support for every forked shitcoin that someone dreams up. Armory is a Bitcoin wallet, after all.

Besides, one is able to access their forked shitcoins with other methods if so desired.

BCH shitcoin is worth $1,239.39 each. Not much to you maybe. But I can sell them without touching the Bitcoin if I choose. I'll continue to take those shit coins.

I could export the keys somehow and get the coins that way. It might be interesting to learn how to do it.     

[Holliday]

i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I would certainly prefer goatpig work on Bitcoin features and keeping the wallet up to date with the Bitcoin ecosystem, along with bug fixes and general improvements, as opposed to wasting time adding support for every forked shitcoin that someone dreams up. Armory is a Bitcoin wallet, after all.

Besides, one is able to access their forked shitcoins with other methods if so desired.

BCH shitcoin is worth $1,239.39 each. Not much to you maybe. But I can sell them without touching the Bitcoin if I choose. I'll continue to take those shit coins.

I could export the keys somehow and get the coins that way. It might be interesting to learn how to do it.     

I don't care (beyond the fact that it gives Joe Q. Public the impression that the entire cryptocurrency space is a joke) if people continue to make forked shitcoins until the sun supernovas and consumes the earth. What I care about, in the context of the location of this thread in the Armory subforum, is the limited resource known as "goatpig's time" and how he spends that time while coding features and improvements for Armory - A Bitcoin wallet.

If you want to petition goatpig on the importance of implementing every forked shitcoin from here until Ragnarök, however, don't let me dissuade you!

[justmyname]

I guess it's a lot of work to make a signer?

I could download and install the BTG wallet and then simply import the keys from Armory?

[HCP]

I could download and install the BTG wallet and then simply import the keys from Armory?

Of course... you have access to your private keys within Armory and the forks have wallets that allow you to import keys.

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
-
- Profit

BCH and BTG both have "Electrum Forks" (Electron Cash and ElectrumG respectively) which make importing your keys and moving your fork coins ridiculously quick and easy... you don't need to download any blockchains and assuming you take the proper precautions (ie. moving coins from keys before importing into another wallet, in descending order of value) you don't really need to worry about the security of your coins.

Or you can continue attempting to connect Armory to "forked" blockchains which it has likely not been tested against and/or hope that goatpig finds time to create "signers" for various forks...

[alomar]

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
-
- Profit

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.

[PhoenixFire]

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
-
- Profit

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.

A little scripting goes a long way, then.

[HCP]

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.

Define "easy" then?

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it

would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.

Code:

walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1

Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2783764.msg28460485#msg28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2200306.msg22126330#msg22126330)

[justmyname]

I could download and install the BTG wallet and then simply import the keys from Armory?

Of course... you have access to your private keys within Armory and the forks have wallets that allow you to import keys.

Easy solution:
- Export keys from Armory
- Import keys into "ForkCoin"™ compatible wallet
-
- Profit

BCH and BTG both have "Electrum Forks" (Electron Cash and ElectrumG respectively) which make importing your keys and moving your fork coins ridiculously quick and easy... you don't need to download any blockchains and assuming you take the proper precautions (ie. moving coins from keys before importing into another wallet, in descending order of value) you don't really need to worry about the security of your coins.

Or you can continue attempting to connect Armory to "forked" blockchains which it has likely not been tested against and/or hope that goatpig finds time to create "signers" for various forks...

 I don't have that many transactions. I guess I'll use the configuration in your post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3274219.0

For each transaction I'll just copy the data to a thumb drive and label them transactions 1, 2, 3 etc. Then take them to the new BTG electrum wallet and import them. The offline wallet will be more difficult but it should be ok.    

[alomar]

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.

Define "easy" then?

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it

would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.

Code:

walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1

Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2783764.msg28460485#msg28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2200306.msg22126330#msg22126330)

i'm now able to get an active connection when i downgrade ABC to 0.16.1.  it will even connect from the VM when the host has an active BTC client connected!  so much for port conflicts.  turns out it probably is the network magic goatpig was talking about and how Armory won't connect to any ABC client newer than 0.16.1.  makes me worry about what will happen after the May 15 ABC hard fork when and if 0.16.1 won't be compatible...

[justmyname]

As one other and Jojo69 suggested I used bitcoin-abc-0.16.1-win64. And it worked just fine.

Maybe not with your operating system. 

there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

So their forking BCH also. Interesting.

I moved my BTC and BCH coins off of Armory. Their is only one developer left and we still don't have a BTG signer available. These coins are worth a significant amount of money. Sort of like a stock split or dividend.

Hardware wallets have software to separate the significant coins. You can have many different types coins on them without downloading the blockchain.

you shouldn't necessarily concerned.  ABC has made it clear from the beginning that they are planning hard forks q6mo as routine upgrades.  i don't necessarily agree with that but i believe their intentions to be good.  we'll see.  i agree that we should be able to harvest altcoins but i'm sure you'll get some sort of response like code it yourself.    i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I think they are trying to out do Bitcoin. Become the Bitcoin. where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork?  

[alomar]

where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork?  

i don't understand the question.

[justmyname]

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.

Define "easy" then?

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it

would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.

Code:

walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1

Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2783764.msg28460485#msg28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2200306.msg22126330#msg22126330)

i'm now able to get an active connection when i downgrade ABC to 0.16.1.  it will even connect from the VM when the host has an active BTC client connected!  so much for port conflicts.  turns out it probably is the network magic goatpig was talking about and how Armory won't connect to any ABC client newer than 0.16.1.  makes me worry about what will happen after the May 15 ABC hard fork when and if 0.16.1 won't be compatible...

They had trouble with versions later than 0.16.1. That's the version I have in my directions. Now you should just have to  "Rebuild and Rescan Data Bases". Then you should see the coins in Armory.

[justmyname]

where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork?  

i don't understand the question.

there is an ABC hard fork coming up May 15 so you might want to get everything done before then.

What's considered "getting everything done"?

[justmyname]

i've heard goatpig is a hard core fundamentalist when it comes to BTC so don't be surprised if you don't get your wish.  good luck

I would certainly prefer goatpig work on Bitcoin features and keeping the wallet up to date with the Bitcoin ecosystem, along with bug fixes and general improvements, as opposed to wasting time adding support for every forked shitcoin that someone dreams up. Armory is a Bitcoin wallet, after all.

Besides, one is able to access their forked shitcoins with other methods if so desired.

BCH shitcoin is worth $1,239.39 each. Not much to you maybe. But I can sell them without touching the Bitcoin if I choose. I'll continue to take those shit coins.

I could export the keys somehow and get the coins that way. It might be interesting to learn how to do it.     

I don't care (beyond the fact that it gives Joe Q. Public the impression that the entire cryptocurrency space is a joke) if people continue to make forked shitcoins until the sun supernovas and consumes the earth. What I care about, in the context of the location of this thread in the Armory subforum, is the limited resource known as "goatpig's time" and how he spends that time while coding features and improvements for Armory - A Bitcoin wallet.

If you want to petition goatpig on the importance of implementing every forked shitcoin from here until Ragnarök, however, don't let me dissuade you!

I agree that the amount of coins made is ridiculous. It's ok to fork Bitcoin once in a while if necessary. But not 5 times a year. Making too many coins using Bitcoins name to give them some form of legitimacy.   

[justmyname]

One question. Do I need Bitcoin core connected to Armory in order to export keys to BTG electrum and get BTG? Or can I just use Armory with BCH ABC wallet?

My guess. I'll have to download the BTC blockchain yet again............

[HCP]

One question. Do I need Bitcoin core connected to Armory in order to export keys to BTG electrum and get BTG? Or can I just use Armory with BCH ABC wallet?

You don't need anything other than Armory to export keys. It doesn't matter if you have Bitcoin Core, Bitcoin ABC or Bitcoin Gold installed or not... you will still be able to export keys from Armory. The only caveat, is that if your Armory wallet is not "synced" it won't be able to tell which keys are "used"... so the default settings in the export will likely not show you all the keys you actually need.

The trick is to make sure that "Include Unused (Address Pool)" option is selected during export... this will show you ALL the pre-generated keys in Armory's keypool, regardless of whether or not Armory thinks they have been used and might have transaction history and/or coins.

Note that if you have had hundreds of transactions and used hundreds of addresses, this still might miss "used" keys out past the default keypool size... so if this situation applies to you, it is probably best to make sure your Armory wallet is properly synced (ie. connected to whatever blockchain you're attempting to use)

where do you think is the best place to have your coins when they fork? 

Same place you should always have your coins when there is a fork... in a secure wallet that provides access to private keys. It honestly doesn't matter how many times a coin is forked. If you have access to the private key(s), you'll have access to your coins.

What's considered "getting everything done"?

Most likely making sure that you have moved any BCH that you're trying to get from your Armory keys into a BCH wallet (be it Bitcoin ABC or Electron Cash) that is going to be working post-Fork. Given that the Bitcoin ABC "magic" has changed... it is likely going to be difficult to get Armory talking to Bitcoin ABC... as evidenced by the issues that alomar has had.

As noted several times already, goatpig's focus for Armory is BTC... expecting there to be support for BCH in the future is likely to cause you issues down the line. So, moving your BCH now is likely to save you a lot of time and effort later.