Using Armory on the BCH chain

[HCP]

Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.

If by "they" you mean the "Electrum" devs... then NO, "they" don't have a BTG tool...

NONE of these Electrum "forks" are the work of, nor are they supported by, the Electrum Dev(s). They're mostly released by the devs (or supporters) of the fork coins. Also, they're prime targets for fake/scam clone wallets designed to steal seeds/keys/coins... Electron Cash had a lot of issues with scam clones to start. Be careful and make sure you're downloading "official" versions of wallets.

And it looks like I could have saved a lot of time if I would have used  the Electron Cash wallet to extract the BCH.  :PWith this wallet you wouldn't have to download the blockchain. Once you have the Armory private keys exported and arranged  in a note pad file, you would have the coins in minutes.  If the wallet hasn't been tampered with. https://electroncash.org/#download

Fairly sure that is what I recommended here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070058.msg35363497#msg35363497

In general, if you have NO interest in continuing to use any given Fork... using a light weight client (ie. some Electrum derivative, or Coinomi etc) is a much easier solution than attempting to get Armory to interface with the forked blockchain.

Granted, you need to make sure that your BTC has been moved first, but that's a relatively straightforward task (create, sign, broadcast transaction)... and generally much easier than attempting to sync a whole new blockchain.

[Peg]

Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working.

Thank you & Regards

Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.

If by "they" you mean the "Electrum" devs... then NO, "they" don't have a BTG tool...

NONE of these Electrum "forks" are the work of, nor are they supported by, the Electrum Dev(s). They're mostly released by the devs (or supporters) of the fork coins. Also, they're prime targets for fake/scam clone wallets designed to steal seeds/keys/coins... Electron Cash had a lot of issues with scam clones to start. Be careful and make sure you're downloading "official" versions of wallets.

And it looks like I could have saved a lot of time if I would have used  the Electron Cash wallet to extract the BCH.  :PWith this wallet you wouldn't have to download the blockchain. Once you have the Armory private keys exported and arranged  in a note pad file, you would have the coins in minutes.  If the wallet hasn't been tampered with. https://electroncash.org/#download

Fairly sure that is what I recommended here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070058.msg35363497#msg35363497

In general, if you have NO interest in continuing to use any given Fork... using a light weight client (ie. some Electrum derivative, or Coinomi etc) is a much easier solution than attempting to get Armory to interface with the forked blockchain.

Granted, you need to make sure that your BTC has been moved first, but that's a relatively straightforward task (create, sign, broadcast transaction)... and generally much easier than attempting to sync a whole new blockchain.

this is NOT easy if you have thousands of keys.

Define "easy" then?

Also, with the Electrum forks you should only need to do the import once. From that point on, you should be able to get away with simply copying the the wallet files and opening the copy in the appropriate fork of Electrum and it should just work.

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.

Of course, not all forks have released Electrum forks... but if you want your "free money" you're going to have to work for it

would you be willing to share the entire contents of your bitcoin.conf?  like i said, i tried listing both server=1 and listen=1 as well as dummy rpcuser and rpcpassword parameters without success.

Code:

walletrbf=1
dbcache=750
server=1

Note that without listen=1, I get the issue (using BitcoinQT) where it will say "node offline" or it will say "connected", but it won't update blocks... If I just use bitcoind, it seems to work OK.

However, for me, having listen=1 will ramp up the bandwidth usage quite dramatically though.

You can read about the various issues I've had with Armory and Win10 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2783764.msg28460485#msg28460485
and an older (and quite possibly outdated) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2200306.msg22126330#msg22126330)

[HCP]

Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working

If your goal is to get BCH and BTG, then yes, that method should work.

Just remember that the original Amory wallet should be considered compromised and no longer used. I'd suggest you keep the wallet backups though, just in case.

Anyway, when you send out the BTC in Step 1, you should either send to an Address in a completely different (new) Armory wallet, or an address in a completely wallet application.

[Peg]

Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working

If your goal is to get BCH and BTG, then yes, that method should work.   

Just remember that the original Amory wallet should be considered compromised and no longer used. I'd suggest you keep the wallet backups though, just in case.

Anyway, when you send out the BTC in Step 1, you should either send to an Address in a completely different (new) Armory wallet, or an address in a completely wallet application.

Thank you very much for your reply  "HCP"

I got the Hardware Wallet, I will move btc , bch, btg.....to it. I will also keep all private keys and the wallet backups.

[alomar]

Hi HCP

I am using Armory online ver. 0.95.1,and offline ver. 0.92.3,  Bitcoin Core version v0.13.2 (64-bit) on win10 notebook, that can run up to date. Do I just follow below your advice to

1. send out all btc, then
2. Export keys from offline Armory  (Plain Base58) Then
***********************************************
- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)
- Copy wallet file
- Open in Electron Cash (get BCH)
- Copy original wallet file
- Open in ElectrumG (get BTG)
- Rinse and repeat.
*************************************************

Please advice if there will not be working

If your goal is to get BCH and BTG, then yes, that method should work.

Just remember that the original Amory wallet should be considered compromised and no longer used. I'd suggest you keep the wallet backups though, just in case.

Anyway, when you send out the BTC in Step 1, you should either send to an Address in a completely different (new) Armory wallet, or an address in a completely wallet application.

why do you need to go thru BTC Electrum first?  why not just import Armory private keys directly into Electron Cash and/or ElectrumG?

[justmyname]

Thank you very much for your reply  "HCP"

I got the Hardware Wallet, I will move btc , bch, btg.....to it. I will also keep all private keys and the wallet backups.

Just remember. First move your BTC to the new hardware wallet before exporting the keys. As you get new coins move them to the hardware or other wallets.

Copy your keys to windows notepad and put that in a safe offline place like a thumb drive. Then edit everything out except the used keys. One key stacked above the next. Then you can import them over and over into any coins wallet designed to except keys previously forked from Bitcoin.     

[justmyname]

why do you need to go thru BTC Electrum first?  why not just import Armory private keys directly into Electron Cash and/or ElectrumG?

You can import your keys into any compatible wallet that allows it. Go to the most valuable coin first. After importing keys move the coins into another, hardware wallet etc. That has has it's own seed, keys.

A compromised wallet download. Device. Could steal your keys and get whatever is left in there.

[HCP]

why do you need to go thru BTC Electrum first?  why not just import Armory private keys directly into Electron Cash and/or ElectrumG?

It's not strictly necessary... But as "Peg" stated in this post:

- Import keys into BTC Electrum (ensure all empty)

It's a useful way to double check that you have successfully moved ALL your BTC before your import those keys into other wallets.

If Electrum (BTC) shows a non-zero balance, you missed some!

It can also be necessary to actually use Electrum BTC to move your BTC in the case where you are restoring the Armory wallet (for whatever reason, computer crash, Bitcoin Core corrupted etc) and don't want to wait for Bitcoin Core (and/or) Armory to sync back up before moving your BTC.

[btcpop.co]

Seems newer bitcoin cash nodes have stricter connection parameters to avoid getting connections from other chains and now armory can't connect anymore...

On the node I get Invalid message start.
Tested with newest ABC and BUcash

[justmyname]

Seems newer bitcoin cash nodes have stricter connection parameters to avoid getting connections from other chains and now armory can't connect anymore...

On the node I get Invalid message start.
Tested with newest ABC and BUcash

Their is a problem with the newer ABC wallets. It won't work with ARmory unless you use an older version like this. https://download.bitcoinabc.org/0.16.1/win/

My BCH Armory Wallet works better than when synched to the original BTC Core. 

[btcpop.co]

Seems newer bitcoin cash nodes have stricter connection parameters to avoid getting connections from other chains and now armory can't connect anymore...

On the node I get Invalid message start.
Tested with newest ABC and BUcash

Their is a problem with the newer ABC wallets. It won't work with ARmory unless you use an older version like this. https://download.bitcoinabc.org/0.16.1/win/

My BCH Armory Wallet works better than when synched to the original BTC Core. 

I know that already, but on May 15th the old versions won't work anymore.
I tried also to remove the code from the main.cpp ( BUcash ) but then another check is triggered and it's still not working.
Don't want to mess much more in the code for now.

I guess I can get it to work by editing some code on ABC or BUcash but guess in the long Armory need to use the correct network magic for Bitcoin Cash, maybe some setting under the bitcoin settings to check that it is Bitcoin Cash?

[PhoenixFire]

I know that already, but on May 15th the old versions won't work anymore.
I tried also to remove the code from the main.cpp ( BUcash ) but then another check is triggered and it's still not working.
Don't want to mess much more in the code for now.

I guess I can get it to work by editing some code on ABC or BUcash but guess in the long Armory need to use the correct network magic for Bitcoin Cash, maybe some setting under the bitcoin settings to check that it is Bitcoin Cash?

"in the long?"... Don't bank on any further official support for BCH in Armory. Goatpig is unlikely to fix it if/when any hardforks break BCH usage - as I understand it, it has been provided as a courtesy to get the coins out, nothing more. If it does break on the 15th, you're probably limited to exporting keys at that point or forking Armory and fixing it yourself.

[alomar]

@goatpig

after May 15, it's my understanding we can still access BCH using the "trick" method you've outlined at the beginning of this thread (of pruning the core blocks after the 8/1/17 hard fork), isn't that correct?  afaict, broadcasting the BCH raw signatures using Blockdozer or any other BCH explorer as currently supplied using your method shouldn't be affected by the BCH change in network magic with the upcoming fork, correct?

[Peg]

Thank you very much for your reply  "HCP"

I got the Hardware Wallet, I will move btc , bch, btg.....to it. I will also keep all private keys and the wallet backups.

Just remember. First move your BTC to the new hardware wallet before exporting the keys. As you get new coins move them to the hardware or other wallets.

Copy your keys to windows notepad and put that in a safe offline place like a thumb drive. Then edit everything out except the used keys. One key stacked above the next. Then you can import them over and over into any coins wallet designed to except keys previously forked from Bitcoin.     

Hi justmyname

I want to move my BTC.

What is the fee you set when you sent out BTC?  Do you follow this  site advice:  e.g.  set  transaction fee is currently 20 satoshis/byte ......   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/


Does BCH wallet download from below link?
https://electroncash.org/

Does BTG wallet download from below link?
https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta

Thx.

[justmyname]

Hi justmyname

I want to move my BTC.

What is the fee you set when you sent out BTC?  Do you follow this  site advice:  e.g.  set  transaction fee is currently 20 satoshis/byte ......   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

The traffic isn't that high right now. Anything over a dollar in transaction fees will quickly send the Bitcoin. I think I spent under 5$ to send all my Crypto to my hardware wallet. Funds were in hardware wallet withing a minute. 

Does BCH wallet download from below link?
https://electroncash.org/

Does BTG wallet download from below link?
https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta

Thx.

Looks legit to me but I'm not an expert coder. All you can do is do a search to find any bad sites that are known to have tampered wallets. Generally if you go to a coins official site the wallets are safe.   

[Peg]

Hi justmyname

I want to move my BTC.

What is the fee you set when you sent out BTC?  Do you follow this  site advice:  e.g.  set  transaction fee is currently 20 satoshis/byte ......   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

The traffic isn't that high right now. Anything over a dollar in transaction fees will quickly send the Bitcoin. I think I spent under 5$ to send all my Crypto to my hardware wallet. Funds were in hardware wallet withing a minute. 

Does BCH wallet download from below link?
https://electroncash.org/

Does BTG wallet download from below link?
https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta

Thx.

Looks legit to me but I'm not an expert coder. All you can do is do a search to find any bad sites that are known to have tampered wallets. Generally if you go to a coins official site the wallets are safe.   

Thank you very much for your reply!

For BCH,  Do I just simple sweep Private Key "(Plain Base58)keys" to get bch ?https://i.imgur.com/xJq9ZcR.jpg

[HCP]

You can either Sweep (which will create an onchain transaction that sends the BCH from the old "btc" addresses to new BCH addresses in your BCH wallet)... or you can Import the keys into a BCH wallet (use the "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys" option when creating the wallet in ElectronCash).

It depends what you want to do... if you want to HODL your BCH, then Sweep is the better option as you're moving the coins from the "exposed" keys. If you're just wanting to dump the BCH... importing the keys and then just sending them to an Exchange is probably "cheaper" and faster (saves paying and waiting for the sweep transaction)

[alomar]

You can either Sweep (which will create an onchain transaction that sends the BCH from the old "btc" addresses to new BCH addresses in your BCH wallet)... or you can Import the keys into a BCH wallet (use the "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys" option when creating the wallet in ElectronCash).

It depends what you want to do... if you want to HODL your BCH, then Sweep is the better option as you're moving the coins from the "exposed" keys. If you're just wanting to dump the BCH... importing the keys and then just sending them to an Exchange is probably "cheaper" and faster (saves paying and waiting for the sweep transaction)

can't you just import your keys into an offline ElectronCash wallet as a cold wallet option for hodling?

[justmyname]

For BCH,  Do I just simple sweep Private Key "(Plain Base58)keys" to get bch ?

I just simply imported (copy and pasted from a prepared note pad file) my "used" private keys, with no addresses. Stacked on top of each other. In Plain Base 58 format. Into the import electrum wallets. I've done BTG and BTP so far. No problems.  

I guess if you don't import your "unused keys" your Armory wallet is still secure (for future transactions)?  But if I every need to use Armory I will still make another wallet just in case.    

[justmyname]

You can either Sweep (which will create an onchain transaction that sends the BCH from the old "btc" addresses to new BCH addresses in your BCH wallet)... or you can Import the keys into a BCH wallet (use the "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys" option when creating the wallet in ElectronCash).

It depends what you want to do... if you want to HODL your BCH, then Sweep is the better option as you're moving the coins from the "exposed" keys. If you're just wanting to dump the BCH... importing the keys and then just sending them to an Exchange is probably "cheaper" and faster (saves paying and waiting for the sweep transaction)

can't you just import your keys into an offline ElectronCash wallet as a cold wallet option for hodling?

I don't know how to configure an "offline" ElectronCash wallet. It probably can be done. After extracting the coins you just send them to your hardware wallet. Wash repeat with next forked coin.

Or you can add a password to the ElectronCash wallet and keep the coins there until you figure out what to do with them.