minerjones backing out of multiple auctions [endorsed/condoned by blazed]

[minifrij]

Canary spoke to me about it at the time and I believe he would have been more vocal about the situation to others, but minerjones excluded him from the slack group limiting his options to leaving negative trust.

Damn, I forgot being kicked from the Slack channel removes the user's right to post on the forum. How silly of me.

I don't fully understand the situation between minerjones and CanaryInTheMine, but from what I've heard it doesn't sound like minerjones did anything wrong. It would be interesting to hear what actually happened.

Your behavior is disgusting and minerjones should be embarrassed to be affiliated with you.

Do you condone Quickseller for doing the same thing? (Collecting doxs of other users without any right to do so).

Obviously not.

Thank you for saying so.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

Canary spoke to me about it at the time and I believe he would have been more vocal about the situation to others, but minerjones excluded him from the slack group limiting his options to leaving negative trust.

Damn, I forgot being kicked from the Slack channel removes the user's right to post on the forum. How silly of me.

I don't fully understand the situation between minerjones and CanaryInTheMine, but from what I've heard it doesn't sound like minerjones did anything wrong. It would be interesting to hear what actually happened.

Your behavior is disgusting and minerjones should be embarrassed to be affiliated with you.

Do you condone Quickseller for doing the same thing? (Collecting doxs of other users without any right to do so).

Why is collecting dox necessarily a bad thing?  Or why does someone not have a right to do that?  Public info is public, unless you're talking SS#s and whatnot.  I wouldn't care if someone had my dox--in fact the people I've done PayPal deals with DO have my real name & address.  Why would I care?  I'm just curious.

Wouldn't want someone to post my dox publically on this forum,  but I wouldn't care if someone had the info.  Am I crazy here or what?

[isoneguy]

Am I crazy

yes, an absolute madman.


The problem isn't the collecting but the potential for hazards.

Your behavior is disgusting and minerjones should be embarrassed to be affiliated with you.

rocks in glass houses?

[OgNasty]

Do you condone Quickseller for doing the same thing? (Collecting doxs of other users without any right to do so).

Obviously not.

Wouldn't want someone to post my dox publically on this forum,  but I wouldn't care if someone had the info.  Am I crazy here or what?

Would you care if someone, "will dox your info to other buddies as he sees fit. He won't honor your privacy and will tell others about your other accounts dealings WITHOUT your permission." or is that ok also?

Now you have TMAN claiming he has a source to get everyone's information for $.  If you aren't concerned by this, you might be crazy.

[Lauda]

Why is collecting dox necessarily a bad thing?

There is actually no real good reason to do this. It usually gets used for malicious purposes (e.g. defcon23 blackmailing others).

Or why does someone not have a right to do that? 

Common sense.

Public info is public, unless you're talking SS#s and whatnot. 

The connection between an username and a public profile is usually not public, thus the information itself is not.

Am I crazy here or what?

You are.

[minifrij]

Why is collecting dox necessarily a bad thing?

To me, it is not so much the act of doing it than the person doing it.
If it were someone that I trusted collecting doxs, perhaps I would not feel so strongly against it. However with users like Quickseller and defcon23 that have been known to use backwards tactics in trying to get their own way in the past, I would not feel comfortable with people like that having my information and freely being able to do things with it.

Perhaps someone else can explain it properly, I feel that I am doing a fairly piss poor job at explaining why I feel the way I do.

Or why does someone not have a right to do that?

Perhaps I worded it incorrectly. I agree that anyone has the right to do that, as in they can. I do not agree that everyone should do that.

Public info is public, unless you're talking SS#s and whatnot.

While the definition of a dox is that it is made up of public information, this is not always the case. If I post a package to someone with my address and they then take that address and give it to others without my permission, that isn't me making my information public however it leads to the same end point.

I wouldn't care if someone had my dox--in fact the people I've done PayPal deals with DO have my real name & address.  Why would I care?  I'm just curious.

It's a general uneasiness for me in regards to other people holding information that is somewhat personal to me, as I have stated above. It should also be noted that some value their privacy much more than others, and therefore having their dox passed around could be a drop in the ocean to a tsunami depending on who's dox it is.

[isoneguy]

Just ordered your DOX QS. Chat to you next week when I have them through from my man.. amazing what $200 gets you if you know who to ask

if you can, I'd love his real name and location so I can report him to the authorities.  These pedophiles can't hide forever.

Well OG's cost me $200 and took 3 days for everything. Can't imagine QS will cost any more, but I have a suspicion that they are one and the same. I'll let you know when I have them vod

It's funny how a thread that actually was made to discuss of a matter of withdrawing from auctions suddenly ended up into DOX. DOX:ing is against the rules here, so im not sure what happens to the thread.

I discussed dox, I haven't publicly aired them.

If I gave you a list of names (first/last/forum), could you fill in the blanks and connect the dots for me?

I don't need Cameron's information, I already have that from his wife.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Do you condone Quickseller for doing the same thing? (Collecting doxs of other users without any right to do so).

Obviously not.

Wouldn't want someone to post my dox publically on this forum,  but I wouldn't care if someone had the info.  Am I crazy here or what?

Would you care if someone, "will dox your info to other buddies as he sees fit. He won't honor your privacy and will tell others about your other accounts dealings WITHOUT your permission." or is that ok also?

Now you have TMAN claiming he has a source to get everyone's information for $.  If you aren't concerned by this, you might be crazy.

Yes I'm a well-known crazy person.   Not in dispute.  Sharing is a different matter, I get that.  Minifrij said "collecting dox" and that's what I was talking about.  

I know you're riled up and I know I will come off as a complete ignoramus,  but let's say TMAN got my dox, or QS for that matter.  What should I be concerned about?   Violence?  Identity theft?  Should I be concerned about people I've done PP deals with? Scamming?  Am I not being paranoid schizophrenic enough?

Edit:  thank you, minifrij for the above response.   You made it as I was sack-of-wet-mice thumb typing on this damn phone.

[isoneguy]

What should I be concerned about?

You know, I accidentally shot someone with a bow once.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Yeah yeah,  then you threw a party because you beat Legend of Zelda.

[isoneguy]

I never beat legend of zelda...did you throw a party when you beat legend of zelda?

[Quickseller]

Do you condone Quickseller for doing the same thing? (Collecting doxs of other users without any right to do so).

Too bad that I get information from my doxes from 100% public sources, and watching for small little details that give me hints as to the RL identities of users. None of my doxes use any information learned as a result of shipping a package from someone else. I don't actively retain shipping information of those that I ship to unless I have shipped to the person many times, and expect to continue doing so -- I may also remember some details about some that I trade with such as their first name and general area of residence in order to have a more personable relationship with those I have traded with. I don't give out information learned as a result of my trading with someone expect my opinion of their ability to be trusted, and success of prior transactions.


Minerjones on the other hand allegedly maintains a list of identities that he has traded with in the past by keeping information provided to him in confidence. This is non-public, confidential information that he is collecting.  


I also will not release any information I have, even if said information was obtained via public sources unless I have independently verified an actual scam (I am not talking about the threshold that Lauda, et el uses to leave negative trust, I am referring to actual scams) has taken place. Minerjones on the other hand apparently is willing to release private information to his "buddies" who have not been harmed financially in any way, nor have the person in question done anything wrong except gotten on the wrong side of one of Minerjones's friends.   

[Quickseller]

I was auctioning items for other people.... I do not control them or their items.
I have stopped doing this, that is why the last auction was cancelled..

It looks like you are being a little dishonest.

When you backed out of your auction to sell the 1000 BTC cas coins, you said you would be more transparent in ownership of coins you are selling for third parties: (July 11)

I would like to apologize to coblee and the community for not doing my due diligence
Future transactions will be transparent and items ownership confirmed before selling or auctions.

Yet, over a month later, you backed out of an auction to sell a cas brass halve (August 12) - http://archive.is/okLEh#selection-409.0-409.10

These three statements can't all be true. You have had several auctions since you stated on July 11 that you would be transparent about ownership of coins you are selling, did you personally own all of these coins, or were you selling them on behalf of other people?

It looks like Minerjones has not addressed the accusation of him lying one of the times he backed out of his auctions.

This is one more reason not to trust MJ.

[wheelz1200]

I went to one of minerjones's recent auction and was pointed to this thread by the op.  Seems to have gotten a lot of "looks".  Has anyone been scammed by minerjones?  I will recon to say no.  I personally have had quite a bit of bitcoin handled through him and have never had one single issue.  This topic doesnt seem to belong in the "scam accusations" portion of this forum as one of his admitted third parties backed out of an auction with not one person moving any money/btc around.  People have gotten taken for "actual funds" and no one seems to give a shit about it but a member here hosted a 3rd party auction who the seller needed to back out and everyone "cares".  

Personally if i was one of the other genuine thread op's who have gotten scammed id be bent right now.  But thats just me.  This seems almost a non issue compared to some of their stories.  I try to stay out of here as much as possible but was directed here through a recent auction in the goods section.  Oh well this post has been long enough either way

I have never been scammed by miner jones nor have i ever felt like i was getting scammed.  Such is life in the world of crypto.....

[TMAN]

I thought minerjones started acting shady after doxxing CanaryInTheMine back in March, but it looks like the behavior may have started earlier than that...  

While this isn't on topic here, do you have any sort of proof of this happening?
From what I understand, CanaryInTheMine was saying in his trust rating that it is possible for MJ to dox people. However this is the case for anyone that sends or receives packages, and it is unfair to call out MJ specifically on it.

Canary spoke to me about it at the time and I believe he would have been more vocal about the situation to others, but minerjones excluded him from the slack group limiting his options to leaving negative trust.

Just ordered your DOX QS. Chat to you next week when I have them through from my man.. amazing what $200 gets you if you know who to ask

Well OG's cost me $200 and took 3 days for everything. Can't imagine QS will cost any more, but I have a suspicion that they are one and the same. I'll let you know when I have them vod

I discussed dox, I haven't publicly aired them.

Your behavior is disgusting and minerjones should be embarrassed to be affiliated with you.

no your behavior is disgusting - you did not pay loans back in full, you are running a loss making asset and you are transmitting money without a license, plus I dont like you personally I think you are a dickhead  so I bought your Dox.. no big deal and if you stop winding me up they will stay with me, QS on the other hand is a different matter - with his previous posts on kiddy porn.. well I wont say what will happen with his Dox

[Lauda]

Too bad that I get information from my doxes from 100% public sources, and watching for small little details that give me hints as to the RL identities of users. None of my doxes use any information learned as a result of shipping a package from someone else.

Highly doubtful at best.

I don't actively retain shipping information of those that I ship to unless I have shipped to the person many times, and expect to continue doing so -- I may also remember some details about some that I trade with such as their first name and general area of residence in order to have a more personable relationship with those I have traded with.

Minerjones on the other hand allegedly maintains a list of identities that he has traded with in the past by keeping information provided to him in confidence. This is non-public, confidential information that he is collecting.  

Which is pretty much the same thing.

Minerjones on the other hand apparently is willing to release private information to his "buddies" who have not been harmed financially in any way, nor have the person in question done anything wrong except gotten on the wrong side of one of Minerjones's friends.   

No. This is a bullshit claim made by Canary, who is as trustworthy as your local robber waiting at the next corner.

[Panthers52]

Panthers52, keep pounding

It is funny you say that because your wife said that exact same thing to me last weekend.

Kind Regards
Panthers52


One other thing I would point out is that minerjones has thusfar failed to address the issue of him lying about no longer handling third party auctions without transparency. I want to know when minerjones is going to address this lie.

[Lauda]

One other thing I would point out is that minerjones has thusfar failed to address the issue of him lying about no longer handling third party auctions without transparency. I want to know when minerjones is going to address this lie.

You seem to be using the wrong account, Quickseller. The situation has been addresses and resolved.

[Quickseller]

One other thing I would point out is that minerjones has thusfar failed to address the issue of him lying about no longer handling third party auctions without transparency. I want to know when minerjones is going to address this lie.

You seem to be using the wrong account, Quickseller. The situation has been addresses and resolved.

Point to the post in which he addressed this..

[RapidMorris]

One other thing I would point out is that minerjones has thusfar failed to address the issue of him lying about no longer handling third party auctions without transparency. I want to know when minerjones is going to address this lie.

You seem to be using the wrong account, Quickseller. The situation has been addresses and resolved.

I have no meat on this table but this made me laugh, real hard, I kept pounding my fist.